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"Paul Grieg" |
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01 May 2007 04:44:24 AM |
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Will the LHC kill us all? |
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
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| User: "Eric Gisse" |
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| Title: Re: Will the LHC kill us all? |
01 May 2007 01:58:20 PM |
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On May 1, 1:44 am, Paul Grieg <pgr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
I really wish folks would stop bringing that idiotic argument up.
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: Will the LHC kill us all? |
01 May 2007 08:54:58 AM |
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On May 1, 4:44 am, Paul Grieg <pgr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
Yup. "Never look at TV Guide listings for reliable science."
PD
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| User: "Jan Panteltje" |
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| Title: Re: Will the LHC kill us all? |
01 May 2007 06:07:46 AM |
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On a sunny day (1 May 2007 02:44:24 -0700) it happened Paul Grieg
<pgrieg@yahoo.com> wrote in
<1178012664.833191.67470@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
If it fails it will fail so fast we will likely never know :-)
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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01 May 2007 06:25:16 PM |
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Paul Grieg <pgrieg@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178012664.833191.67470
@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
So far, cosmic rays of far greater energy than the particles in the LHC
have failed to destroy the moon etc.
Klazmon
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| User: "greysky" |
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03 May 2007 01:10:22 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns9924742ECC447Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
Paul Grieg <pgrieg@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178012664.833191.67470
@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
So far, cosmic rays of far greater energy than the particles in the LHC
have failed to destroy the moon etc.
The fact that this hasn't happened is proof that string theory is a bunch of
mathematical hot air and misdirection.
Greysky
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| User: "PD" |
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03 May 2007 08:22:10 AM |
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On May 3, 1:10 am, "greysky" <grey...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in messagenews:Xns9924742ECC447Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...> Paul Grieg <pgr...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1178012664.833191.67470
@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
So far, cosmic rays of far greater energy than the particles in the LHC
have failed to destroy the moon etc.
The fact that this hasn't happened is proof that string theory is a bunch of
mathematical hot air and misdirection.
I don't know why you would say that. As far as I know, string theory
has not said anything about the LHC creating a black hole that would
swallow the world. Apparently TV Guide has, but I don't think the good
folks at TV Guide represent the state of the art of string theory.
PD
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| User: "Uncle Al" |
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01 May 2007 09:30:11 AM |
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Paul Grieg wrote:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
1) Angular momentum is conserved. A microscopic black hole can't
swallow anything signficant/time.
2) Given the maximum possible mass of the created black hole,
calculate its maximum possible lifetime,
T=(M/Ms)x10^66 years
where M = black hole mass and Ms = solar mass.
T=(M^3)/3K
where K = (hc^4)/(30720)G^2(pi)^2 Use consistent units.
http://library.thinkquest.org/C007571/english/advance/core8.htm
Where can it travel in that time interval, git? Nowhere.
3) Idiot.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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01 May 2007 02:51:02 PM |
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Uncle Al (of Irvine) Going far out,but inside the Milky Way I'm worried
about a super Nova explosion that could wipe out all life forms in the
galaxy. They create life and can destroy life. Bert
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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01 May 2007 03:56:03 PM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Uncle Al (of Irvine) Going far out,but inside the Milky Way I'm worried
about a super Nova explosion that could wipe out all life forms in the
galaxy. They create life and can destroy life. Bert
There are no known candidates close enough to pose a threat, Herb.
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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03 May 2007 07:28:51 AM |
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Sam You are wrong. Reality is the stars that are the largest stars in
the universe dominate our sky. They have a mass 100 times greater than
the Sun,and last only one-thousandth as long. We call these massive
stars "Blue Supergiants" We have one just 20,000LY from us. Its called
"Sher 25" and is in the constellation Carina(I'm looking at a picture of
it as I 'm typing) Astronomers agree that this Sher 25 is about to
explode. Sam This begs the question "Is 20,000 LY far enough away for
us to be safe? I predict in the future astronomers will be able to
predict a supernova explosion. Bert.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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03 May 2007 08:01:01 AM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Sam You are wrong. Reality is the stars that are the largest stars in
the universe dominate our sky. They have a mass 100 times greater than
the Sun,and last only one-thousandth as long. We call these massive
stars "Blue Supergiants" We have one just 20,000LY from us. Its called
"Sher 25" and is in the constellation Carina(I'm looking at a picture of
it as I 'm typing) Astronomers agree that this Sher 25 is about to
explode. Sam This begs the question "Is 20,000 LY far enough away for
us to be safe? I predict in the future astronomers will be able to
predict a supernova explosion. Bert.
As I said, there are no known candidates close enough to pose a threat,
Herb. This spin orientation in the wrong direction, Herb.
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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03 May 2007 03:46:23 PM |
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Sam the size of the explosion and the particle speed,and their weight
will equal the force \thrown to us. Sad part is this radiation can do
its damage in the tiny micro level, Just cause radiation damage to our
cells. Bert
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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03 May 2007 03:54:41 PM |
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Well Sam Humankind can be wiped out like the dinosaurs( locally) or by
a deep space event. Take your pick Bert
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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03 May 2007 04:24:03 PM |
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Well Sam Humankind can be wiped out like the dinosaurs( locally) or by
a deep space event. Take your pick Bert
We humans will likely do ourselves in without any outside
influence, Herb.
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: Will the LHC kill us all? |
01 May 2007 11:52:34 AM |
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Paul Grieg wrote:
If you can get BBC2 watch out for Horizon tonight. Some TV Guide
listings are saying that it might produce a black hole that could
swallow the earth:
http://www.321books.co.uk/tvguide/tuesdaynight.htm
Any thoughts?
The Black Hole of Geneva
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2001/split/558-2.html
Physicists Hoping To Create Tiny Black Holes At CERN
http://unisci.com/stories/20014/1001012.htm
Looking for Black Holes in the Atmosphere
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/split/764-2.html
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