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"hops" |
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02 Sep 2006 05:46:57 PM |
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World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
Hop
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
02 Sep 2006 08:02:41 PM |
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hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
o no atoms
o no chemistry
o no stars
Follow the coupling constants.
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| User: "Yousuf Khan" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
02 Sep 2006 09:33:47 PM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
o no atoms
o no chemistry
o no stars
Follow the coupling constants.
Why would these particles not be able to form into atoms? Is it because
the Strong force won't be strong enough to hold them together?
Yousuf Khan
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| User: "Sam Wormley" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
03 Sep 2006 07:05:51 AM |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
o no atoms
o no chemistry
o no stars
Follow the coupling constants.
Why would these particles not be able to form into atoms? Is it because
the Strong force won't be strong enough to hold them together?
Yousuf Khan
Follow the coupling constants
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| User: "hops" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
03 Sep 2006 07:52:46 AM |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:
Sam Wormley wrote:
hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
o no atoms
o no chemistry
o no stars
Follow the coupling constants.
Why would these particles not be able to form into atoms? Is it because
the Strong force won't be strong enough to hold them together?
Yousuf Khan
Follow the coupling constants
I couldn't find in the net the values of the fine structure constants
of the 2nd and 3rd generation matter. Also couldn't find the
coupling constants of the 6 quarks and gluons. Maybe they have
only the value of the fine structure constant. Do you happen to know
where I can find them in case there is partial list. Also (or/and if
there is no partial list) what experiment(s) have determined
that the coupling constants of 1st/2nd generation matter
are weaker than the first? They decay because there is a 1st
generation for them to decay to (while obeying conservation
laws such as charge, lepton number). But supposed just
for the sake of theoretical exploration. The 1st generation
matter were prohibited from existing. What would happen
to the 2nd generation matter. What quasi-composites
would be produced and how long would these last?
But maybe the charm and stange quarks should still form
some kind of nucleons without muon orbitals due to mismatched
fine structure constants?
H.
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| User: "PD" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
05 Sep 2006 12:23:25 PM |
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hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
I don't know that it would aid in understanding anything, unless you're
trying to say that the 1st generation is necessary so that we'll exist
-- in which case I would ask why there is a second generation.
PD
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: World made up of 2nd Generation particles |
03 Sep 2006 10:13:25 AM |
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hops wrote:
Supposed the 2nd generations particles (muon, muon nutrino,
charm and strange quarks) are stable and the 1st generations are
prohibited from existing (our normal matter) so the former can't decay
into the latter. What would the world be like in the 2nd generation
universe? Would the atoms be bigger or some elements can't form?
is there a study about this somewhere or list of all conceivable
effects or consequences. This would aid in our understanding why
there are 3 generations of subparticles. Thanks.
There is only even one generation of particles,
for the purely pendantic reason, that that's
the way chemists define friction losses,
There is only even two generations of particlles,
for the purely pendatic reason that that's the
way microbiologists define cloning.
So there are three generations of subpartiicles
for the purely pendatic reason that that's
the way phycists define no-cloning.
Hop
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