Science > Physics > Would you let your daughter marry a mathematician?
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17 Jul 2005 11:26:53 AM |
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Would you let your daughter marry a mathematician? |
And be poor, lonely, and sexless for the rest of her life?
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| User: "T Wake" |
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17 Jul 2005 11:52:26 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And be poor, lonely, and sexless for the rest of her life?
Is this the problem your wife has?
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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17 Jul 2005 07:42:37 PM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And be poor, lonely, and sexless for the rest of her life?
Mr. Mark Demers the Idiot, is it the complaint you've got from your wife?
Anyway, I don't think parents can control whom their daughter
loves --- so it's a meaningless question!!! The world should be
multi-pole instead of being single-pole promoted by the stupid Bush.
***** in one's eyes is actually gold in the other's. Like Mr. Mark Demers
--- I guess most people would consider him a ***** but he is a golden
crab in his wife's eyes. (Footnote: Mr. Mark's wife is blind!)
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| User: "double d" |
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| Title: Re: Would you let your daughter marry a mathematician? |
18 Jul 2005 02:37:46 PM |
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have you found any job that does not require some math and/or
counting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
To continue mark's list:
Jobs that require PhD-level math knowledge: math TA, math professor,
string theory physics professor, mathematical XYZ professor, er..
that's about it.
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| User: "Robert Kolker" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:09:36 PM |
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double d wrote:
Jobs that require PhD-level math knowledge: math TA, math professor,
string theory physics professor, mathematical XYZ professor, er..
that's about it.
The mathemtics used by physicsts and engineers all over the world were
Phd level at one time.
There was a time (several hundred years ago) when only a few understood
calculus. Much of the work of Euler and Gauss now appear in
undergraduate mathematics course for engineers and physicists.
Bob Kolker
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| User: "double d" |
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18 Jul 2005 11:38:13 PM |
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The mathemtics used by physicsts and engineers all over the world were
Phd level at one time.
Did mark as you about "at one time"? Why do you insist on living in
your mythical dream world?
How about NOW?
Let Mark put it this way in case you are a tad slow on the up-take.
For any job you name that involves math, Mark can name FIVE better
paying jobs that
require LESS math.
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| User: "Richard Henry" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:00:34 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The mathemtics used by physicsts and engineers all over the world were
Phd level at one time.
Did mark as you about "at one time"? Why do you insist on living in
your mythical dream world?
How about NOW?
Let Mark put it this way in case you are a tad slow on the up-take.
For any job you name that involves math, Mark can name FIVE better
paying jobs that
require LESS math.
Who's Mark?
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:38:57 AM |
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"Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com> wrote in message
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Who's Mark?
He is called Mark Demers, famous for his idiocy in this news group.
He uses a nickname of doubleD (standing for double dope). He claimed
to have two PhD's, one of which is in Math from Harvard doing Itoh 16 years
ago. But later he was found lying and started to put up posts to look down
on
mathematicians.
Guys, sorry for these boring posts --- I have a little free time to be
killed off with.
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| User: "Mark Martin" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:08:45 AM |
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Richard Henry wrote:
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121747893.835369.16120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The mathemtics used by physicsts and engineers all over the world were
Phd level at one time.
Did mark as you about "at one time"? Why do you insist on living in
your mythical dream world?
How about NOW?
Let Mark put it this way in case you are a tad slow on the up-take.
For any job you name that involves math, Mark can name FIVE better
paying jobs that
require LESS math.
Who's Mark?
Mark = double d. He speaks of himself Bob Dole style.
-Mark Martin
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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18 Jul 2005 10:27:00 PM |
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There was a time (several hundred years ago) when only a few understood
calculus. Much of the work of Euler and Gauss now appear in undergraduate
mathematics course for engineers and physicists.
Bob Kolker
Engineers and computer scientient use the results from mathematics a lot.
To name a few engineering applications requiring math., error control
coding, computer networks (queuing theory and others), the s-chart in
RF or transimission line designs, optical fiber design. There are a lot of
applications using graph theoretic results.....
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| User: "" |
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18 Jul 2005 02:34:54 AM |
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In article <1121617613.533411.162040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote:
And be poor, lonely, and sexless for the rest of her life?
Have you found any job that does not require some math and/or
counting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "double d" |
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18 Jul 2005 02:35:59 PM |
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ave you found any job that does not require some math and/or
accounting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
Most lawyers, novelists, judges, politicans, Presidents of the USA,
doctors, surgeons, truck drivers, factory workers, ditch diggers,
social science teachers, NBA coach, major league baseball player,
NFL star wide receiver, millionaire basketball coach, superstar golfer,
marathon runner, talk show hosts, network news anchor, spokesman for
President of USA, sex symbol, movie actor, garbage man, mail man,
Mohammed Ali, Martin Luther King, sumo wrestler
jobs that require math and accounting knowledge:
accountant, waitress, cashier, financial analysts, engineer, computer
scientist, high school math teacher, grammar school math teacher,
college math teacher, calculus TA
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| User: "T Wake" |
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18 Jul 2005 03:05:22 PM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121715359.769361.269100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ave you found any job that does not require some math and/or
accounting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
Most lawyers, novelists, judges, politicans, Presidents of the USA,
doctors, surgeons, truck drivers, factory workers, ditch diggers,
social science teachers, NBA coach, major league baseball player,
NFL star wide receiver, millionaire basketball coach, superstar golfer,
marathon runner, talk show hosts, network news anchor, spokesman for
President of USA, sex symbol, movie actor, garbage man, mail man,
Mohammed Ali, Martin Luther King, sumo wrestler
Most of those jobs actually do require mathematics (statistics) or
accounting knowledge. Some require lots of it.
Bit of an "own goal" post there.
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| User: "" |
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19 Jul 2005 03:27:43 AM |
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In article <WN-dnU8dHKpZlkHfRVnyrw@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote:
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121715359.769361.269100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ave you found any job that does not require some math and/or
accounting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
Most lawyers, novelists, judges, politicans, Presidents of the USA,
doctors, surgeons, truck drivers, factory workers, ditch diggers,
social science teachers, NBA coach, major league baseball player,
NFL star wide receiver, millionaire basketball coach, superstar golfer,
marathon runner, talk show hosts, network news anchor, spokesman for
President of USA, sex symbol, movie actor, garbage man, mail man,
Mohammed Ali, Martin Luther King, sumo wrestler
Most of those jobs actually do require mathematics (statistics) or
accounting knowledge. Some require lots of it.
Bit of an "own goal" post there.
All of them get a paycheck. Unless they wish to become
destitute overnight, they need to know accounting, percentages,
rate of returns. All sports types need to know geometry,
quite a bit of physics and effects of weather. For instance,
all football players know how to subtract in yards.
Now, find a job that requires no math or no counting knowledge.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "" |
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19 Jul 2005 11:25:32 AM |
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wrote:
In article <WN-dnU8dHKpZlkHfRVnyrw@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote:
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121715359.769361.269100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ave you found any job that does not require some math and/or
accounting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
Most lawyers, novelists, judges, politicans, Presidents of the USA,
doctors, surgeons, truck drivers, factory workers, ditch diggers,
social science teachers, NBA coach, major league baseball player,
NFL star wide receiver, millionaire basketball coach, superstar golfer,
marathon runner, talk show hosts, network news anchor, spokesman for
President of USA, sex symbol, movie actor, garbage man, mail man,
Mohammed Ali, Martin Luther King, sumo wrestler
Most of those jobs actually do require mathematics (statistics) or
accounting knowledge. Some require lots of it.
Bit of an "own goal" post there.
All of them get a paycheck. Unless they wish to become
destitute overnight, they need to know accounting, percentages,
rate of returns.
Like Mike Tyson?
All sports types need to know geometry,
quite a bit of physics and effects of weather. For instance,
all football players know how to subtract in yards.
Now, find a job that requires no math or no counting knowledge.
I would rather find a job "managing" the money of someone who
has no math or counting knowledge.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "" |
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20 Jul 2005 03:57:29 AM |
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In article <1121790332.613001.159580@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"mensanator@aol.compost" <mensanator@aol.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <WN-dnU8dHKpZlkHfRVnyrw@pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote:
"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1121715359.769361.269100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
ave you found any job that does not require some math and/or
accounting knowledge? I'm still waiting for an answer.
Most lawyers, novelists, judges, politicans, Presidents of the USA,
doctors, surgeons, truck drivers, factory workers, ditch diggers,
social science teachers, NBA coach, major league baseball player,
NFL star wide receiver, millionaire basketball coach, superstar
golfer,
marathon runner, talk show hosts, network news anchor, spokesman for
President of USA, sex symbol, movie actor, garbage man, mail man,
Mohammed Ali, Martin Luther King, sumo wrestler
Most of those jobs actually do require mathematics (statistics) or
accounting knowledge. Some require lots of it.
Bit of an "own goal" post there.
All of them get a paycheck. Unless they wish to become
destitute overnight, they need to know accounting, percentages,
rate of returns.
Like Mike Tyson?
Is he working?
All sports types need to know geometry,
quite a bit of physics and effects of weather. For instance,
all football players know how to subtract in yards.
Now, find a job that requires no math or no counting knowledge.
I would rather find a job "managing" the money of someone who
has no math or counting knowledge.
Which is why people need to take classes.
/BAH
Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.
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| User: "double d" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:08:20 AM |
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Mark's point is that none of these very successful people need to know
PhD level math. A couple of undergrad business and economics course
using high school algebra and social science statistics is enough!
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| User: "David Kastrup" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:23:40 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> writes:
Mark's point is that none of these very successful people need to
know PhD level math. A couple of undergrad business and economics
course using high school algebra and social science statistics is
enough!
Not unless they are backed by people with solid mathematical
knowledge.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:04:44 AM |
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"David Kastrup" <dak@gnu.org> wrote in message
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Not unless they are backed by people with solid mathematical
knowledge.
Agree!
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| User: "double d" |
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20 Jul 2005 09:16:14 AM |
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Not unless they are backed by people with solid mathematical
knowledge.
Again, you are being irrlevant to Mark's point. mark's point is
that these highly successful people have no need for *PHD*
level mathematics. PHD level math. Are you saying anything
relevant to PHD level math? The "solid" math you refer to is
taugh in any good undergrad applied math or stat course.
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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19 Jul 2005 10:04:01 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark's point is that none of these very successful people need to know
PhD level math. A couple of undergrad business and economics course
using high school algebra and social science statistics is enough!
Mr. Mark, if you consider the president of United States is a very
successful person, then you're definitely right. I bet that he can't even
do summing up single-digit numbers correctly without a calculator.
In other words, you don't need elementary math. to be successful.
If you think the president is not a successful person, then I would have
doubt why the smart Americans let an unsuccessful person to lead
their country!
What I want to point out is whether math is critical to be successful
depends on what area you are talking. It's definitely important for
science and engineer. When you quantify success in money, as what
I told you before, people with good business sense can earn more
than an engineer by selling fishes!!! Why do you bother to judge on
whether math. could lead one to be successful while considering
something irrelevant?
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| User: "double d" |
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24 Jul 2005 07:20:50 AM |
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Aldar,
Mark's assessment is that you're a dumbshit.
MD
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| User: "Aldar C-F. Chan" |
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24 Jul 2005 02:00:01 PM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Aldar,
Mark's assessment is that you're a dumbshit.
MD
An assessment without evidences???
I hope you wouldn't give your boss or clients a 1-sentence analysis
report like "Mark's assessment is that we should buy XXXX.". If
you did, I was wrong in saying that nobody can crush you in the
moron contest --- at least your boss can!!! :p
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| User: "G=EMC^2 Glazier" |
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24 Jul 2005 05:42:35 PM |
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I would if I was an Iowa farmer. Beert
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| User: "T Wake" |
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24 Jul 2005 07:59:02 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Aldar,
Mark's assessment is that you're a dumbshit.
MD
Its OK, T Wake's assessment of people who talk about themselves in the third
person is that they are crackpots.
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| User: "double d" |
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24 Jul 2005 09:53:56 AM |
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Mark observes that people who resort to calling others "crackpots" have
a dim bulb.
Mark never heard einstein call other person a crackpot.
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| User: "T Wake" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:21:21 AM |
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"double d" <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mark observes that people who resort to calling others "crackpots" have
a dim bulb.
Mark never heard einstein call other person a crackpot.
T Wake observes Einstein never wrote about himself in the third person. Lots
of insane people have done though. T Wake suspects it could be a *sign*
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| User: "Randy Poe" |
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24 Jul 2005 01:56:07 PM |
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double d wrote:
Mark observes that people who resort to calling others "crackpots" have
a dim bulb.
Mark never heard einstein call other person a crackpot.
Einstein died in 1955. Mark was born in 1989. Mark never
heard Einstein say anything at all.
- Randy
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| User: "Joseph Hertzlinger" |
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24 Jul 2005 11:02:51 PM |
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On 24 Jul 2005 05:20:50 -0700, double d <markdemers15@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Mark's assessment is that you're a dumbshit.
My assessment is that people who only refer to themselves in the third
person are nuts.
--
http://hertzlinger.blogspot.com
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| User: "Wayne Brown" |
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23 Jul 2005 03:33:45 PM |
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In sci.math double d <markdemers15@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark's point is that none of these very successful people need to know
PhD level math. A couple of undergrad business and economics course
using high school algebra and social science statistics is enough!
So what? Most of them also have no need to be able to read Classical
Greek, or play the violin, or perform heart surgery, or genetically
engineer a disease-resistant crop. Why bother asking such things?
Why would anyone expect a non-mathematician to *need* PhD-level math?
Though "need" doesn't always mean anything. I *want* to study higher
math, just for fun, though I have no *need* to do so. Since I probably
have another twenty or thirty years of life left, I might make it to PhD
level, even through self-study. Or maybe not. Anyway, I'm having
fun trying. The purpose of education is to become educated, not just
to make money. I consider money a necessary evil -- something needed
for survival -- not an interesting or worthy goal in and of itself.
Knowledge, however, carries its own fascination, and need not have
anything to do with being "successful."
--
Wayne Brown (HPCC #1104) | "When your tail's in a crack, you improvise
fwbrown@bellsouth.net | if you're good enough. Otherwise you give
| your pelt to the trapper."
"e^(i*pi) = -1" -- Euler | -- John Myers Myers, "Silverlock"
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| User: "double d" |
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24 Jul 2005 07:22:57 AM |
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Wayne Brown,
You are a maggot in society. Why don't you produce something of
practical value
to improve society instead of pursuing your own selfish, hedonistic
study of useless esoterica?
MD
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