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Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany, Answers Andy Card's Criticism
On Thursday's Countdown show shortly before 9:00 p.m., just an hour before
hosting a special Countdown to discuss CNN's Democratic debate from that
night, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann delivered his latest "Special Comment,"
this time attacking President Bush for threatening to veto a new FISA law if
Congress refuses to include liability protection for telecom companies that
have assisted in surveillance in the war on terrorism, arguing that Bush
would be endangering Americans by delaying the bill's passage. The MSNBC
host, who once scolded public figures who use Nazi references, made his own
latest invocation of Nazi Germany, as he compared the telecoms to the Krupp
family who were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg. Olbermann: "It begins
to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp
family industrial giants by literally rewriting the laws of Germany for
their benefit. And we know how that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his
directors were convicted of war crimes at Nuremburg." (Transcript follows)
Olbermann also included a response to former Bush Chief-of-Staff Andy Card's
criticism of Olbermann's and Chris Matthews' "cynical" attitude toward
Monday's State of the Union Address:
Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst here. Consider how his former Chief
of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded Chris Matthews and me after the
State of the Union Address. "The President's address tonight was very
important," Card said, "because it really was a sobering call to reality for
us. And the reality is we have an enemy who wants to hurt us. The primary
job of the President is to protect us. He talked about protecting us. He
talked about the needs to have the tools to protect us."
The Countdown host, who recently admitted to sometimes recusing himself from
interviewing certain Republicans, deferring to Matthews, because of
Olbermann's past criticisms of them, on Monday night did not take part in
interviewing Card, and did not respond after Card called out Olbermann and
Matthews during a live interview. Card from Monday: "I can't tell you how
cynical you two sound, and almost every guest you've had on has been very
cynical. You can't even find an objective skeptic to interview."
Olbermann concluded his Thursday "Special Comment":
The eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no impact on
counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist threat, the
thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call that's going
through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next month. Because
if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand, veto an
extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to follow,
you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you would not
merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you would not
merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of treason,
sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if there is
one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have proved time
and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you are never
responsible. Good night and good luck.
Below is a complete transcript of Olbermann's "Special Comment" from the
Thursday January 31 Countdown show on MSNBC:
And finally tonight, as promised, a "Special Comment" of FISA and the
telecoms. In a presidency of hypocrisy, an administration of exploitation, a
labyrinth of leadership, in which every vital fact is a puzzle inside a
riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden under a claim of executive privilege
supervised by an idiot, this one is surprisingly easy. President Bush has
put protecting the telecom giants from the laws ahead of protecting you from
the terrorists. He has demanded an extension of the FISA law, the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Act, but only an extension that includes
retroactive immunity for the telecoms who helped him spy on you. Congress
has given him, and he has today signed, a 15-day extension which simply
kicks the time bomb down the field, and which has changed nothing of his
insipid rhetoric, in which he portrays the Democrats as soft on terror and
getting in the way of his superhuman efforts to protect the nation when, in
fact, and with bitter irony, if anybody is soft on terror right now, it is
Mr. Bush.
In the State of the Union Address, sir, you told Congress if you do not act
by Friday, our ability to track terrorist threats would be weakened, and our
citizens will be in greater danger. Yet, you are willing to weaken that
ability. You will subject us, your citizens, to that greater danger. This,
Mr. Bush, is simple enough even for you to understand. If Congress approves
a new FISA act without telecom immunity and sends it to your desk and you
veto it, you by your own terms and your own definitions, you will have just
sided with the terrorists. You gotta have this law or we're all going to
die, but you might veto this law.
It's bad enough, sir, that you are demanding an ex post facto law which
would clear the phone giants from responsibility for their systematic,
aggressive, and blatant collaboration with your illegal and unjustified
spying on Americans under this flimsy guise of looking for any terrorists
who are stupid enough to make a collect call or send a mass email. but when
you then demand it again in the State of the Union Address, that Congress
retroactively clear the Verizons and the AT&T's, you wouldn't even confirm
that they actually did anything for which they deserve to be cleared. The
Congress must pass liability protection for companies "believed" to have
assisted in the efforts to defend America.
Believe?! Don't you know? Does the endless hair-splitting of your
presidential fine print extend even here? If you, sir, are asking Congress
and us to join you in this shameless, breathless literal textbook example of
fascism, the merged efforts of government and corporations who answer to no
government, you still don't have the guts to say the telecom companies did
assist you in your efforts. Will you and the equivocators who surround you
like a cocoon who never go on the record about anything, even the stuff you
claim to believe in?
Silly me. Of course Mr. Bush is going to say "believed." Yes, it sounds
dumber than if he referred to himself as the "alleged President," or had
said today was "reportedly Thursday," or had claimed "mission accomplished"
in Iraq. But the moment he does say anything else, any doubt that the
telecoms knowingly broke the law is out the window and with it, any chance
that even the Republicans who are fighting this like they were trying to
fend off terrorists using nothing but broken beer bottles and swear words
could not consent to retroactively immunize corporate criminals. Which is
why the Vice President probably shouldn't have phoned into the Rush Limbaugh
propaganda festival yesterday. Sixth sentence out of Mr. Cheney's mouth: The
FISA bill is about, quote, "retroactive liability protection for the
companies that have worked with us and helped us prevent further attacks
against the United States."
Oops. Mr. Cheney is something of a loose cannon, of course, but he kind of
let the wrong cat out of the bag there because Mr. Bush and the corporations
that he values more than people, did not want anybody to verify what Mark
Klein says. Mark Klein is the AT&T whistle blower who appeared on this
newscast last November, who explained in the placid, dull terms of your
local neighborhood IT desk how he personally attached all of AT&T's
circuits, everything, carrying every phone call, every e-mail, every bit of
Web browsing, into a secure room, room number 641A at the Folsom Street
facility in San Francisco, where it was all copied so the government could
look at it. Not some of it, not just the international part of it, certainly
not just the stuff some truly patriotic and telepathic spy might be able to
divine had been sent or spoken by or to a terrorist -- everything. Every
time you looked at a naked picture, every time you bid on eBay. Every time
you phoned in a donation to a Democrat. "My thought was George Orwell's
1984," Mr. Klein told me, reflecting back, "and here I am, forced to connect
the 'big brother machine.'"
You know, Mr. Bush, if Mr. Klein's "big brother machine," the one the Vice
President conveniently just confirmed for us, if it was of any damn use at
all at actually finding anything, you could probably program it to find out
who started that slanderous e-mail about Barack Obama. Use room 641A to
identify that e-assassin, sir, and I'll stand up and applaud you. Yeah, I'm
holding my breath on that one, too. But, of course, sir, this isn't about
finding that kind of needle in a hay stack. This is not even about finding a
haystack. This is about scooping up every piece of hay there ever was and
laying the ground work for the next little job which you have to outsource
to AT&T and Verizon and all the rest.
It was your Director of National Intelligence, Mr. McConnell, letting this
one out of that same bag. The need for Homeland Security to stave off cyber
attacks against the government's computer networks. And how do they do that,
sir? By constantly monitoring the Internet -- the whole Internet. And who
actually physically does that, Mr. Bush? Right. The same telecom giants for
whom you want immunity quickly, so quickly you wouldn't believe it, because
this previous domestic spying, and this upcoming policing of the Internet,
they may be completely evil, indiscriminate, unlawful, so you have to dress
it all up as something opposite. It's isn't evil, it's, you said, "to
protect America." It isn't indiscriminate, you said it's "the ability to
monitor terrorist communications." It isn't unlawful, it's just the kind of
perfectly legal thing for which you happen to need immunity.
There's yet another level to this, and here we move from big brother to
sleazy son. Mr. Bush's new Attorney General, Mr. Mukasey, the one who's
already taken four different positions on waterboarding, and who may yet tie
that record on this subject of telecom immunity, he has a very personal
stake in all this. There happens to be a partner in the law firm of
Bracewell and Giuliani named Mark Mukasey. And Bracewell and Giuliani and
the Attorney General's son Mark just happen to represent Verizon. You know,
Verizon, telecom giant. And all of a sudden, this is no longer just a farce
in which protecting the telecoms is dressed up as protecting us from
terrorist conference calls. Now it begins to look like the bureaucrats of
the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp family industrial giants by
literally rewriting the laws of Germany for their benefit. And we know how
that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his directors were convicted of war
crimes at Nuremberg.
Nevertheless, for those of us watching a President demand this specific law,
the ones the Germans had was called the Lechs Krupp, there is one surprising
bit of comfort in all of this. Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst
here. Consider how his former Chief of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded
Chris Matthews and me after the State of the Union Address. "The President's
address tonight was very important," Card said, "because it really was a
sobering call to reality for us. And the reality is we have an enemy who
wants to hurt us. The primary job of the President is to protect us. He
talked about protecting us. He talked about the needs to have the tools to
protect us."
Indeed, Mr. Bush. The primary job of any President is to protect us, not
just those of us who own Internet and telephone companies, but all of us.
And even you, sir, with your intermittent grasp of reality, even with your
ego greater than 100 percent approval rating, even with your messianic
petulance, even you could not truly choose to protect the corporations
instead of the people. I'm not talking about ethics here. I am talking about
blame. Even if it's you throwing out the baby with the bath water, Mr. Bush,
it still means we can safely conclude there is no baby. There is not a
choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or protecting the people
from terrorists, sir. There is a choice of protecting the telecoms from
prosecution or pretending to protect the people from terrorists.
Sorry, Mr. Bush, the eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no
impact on counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist
threat, the thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call
that's going through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next
month. Because if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand,
veto an extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to
follow, you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you
would not merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you
would not merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of
treason, sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if
there is one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have
proved time and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you
are never responsible. Good night and good luck.
Source:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/01/olbermann-invokes-nazi-germany-answers-andy-cards-criticism
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"Harry Dope" <DemocratsLie@aol.com> slobbered and gibbered in
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Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany, Answers Andy Card's Criticism
Yes we know "it's unbelievable" Emu...
But be of good cheer... there is less than a year to go before we send that
incompetent little crook scuttling back to "Crawfurd" his "leglacy" as the
WORST President in US history assured,
Every cloud has a silver lining eh?
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On 01 Feb 2008 14:51:15 GMT, Amanda Williams <pms@fu.com> wrote:
"Harry Dope" <DemocratsLie@aol.com> slobbered and gibbered in
news:47a32abf$0$22565$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany, Answers Andy Card's Criticism
Yes we know "it's unbelievable" Emu...
But be of good cheer... there is less than a year to go before we send that
incompetent little crook scuttling back to "Crawfurd" his "leglacy" as the
WORST President in US history assured,
Legacy?
Arguably, the single worst thing a president has done was sign social
security entitlement into law. It was originally an "insurance" but
has been turned into a retirement "entitlement" over the years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_%28United_States%29
Along similar (retirement) lines, there was signing medicare part D
drug entitlement into law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Part_D
Perhaps, the second worst american law is the progressive income tax.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_tax
Every cloud has a silver lining eh?
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Who's olbermann and does anyone watch him. I notice that he's on msnbc
so it's a good bet that his ratings are pathetic.
In alt.politics.usa.republican Harry Dope <DemocratsLie@aol.com> wrote:
: Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany, Answers Andy Card's Criticism
: On Thursday's Countdown show shortly before 9:00 p.m., just an hour before
: hosting a special Countdown to discuss CNN's Democratic debate from that
: night, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann delivered his latest "Special Comment,"
: this time attacking President Bush for threatening to veto a new FISA law if
: Congress refuses to include liability protection for telecom companies that
: have assisted in surveillance in the war on terrorism, arguing that Bush
: would be endangering Americans by delaying the bill's passage. The MSNBC
: host, who once scolded public figures who use Nazi references, made his own
: latest invocation of Nazi Germany, as he compared the telecoms to the Krupp
: family who were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg. Olbermann: "It begins
: to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp
: family industrial giants by literally rewriting the laws of Germany for
: their benefit. And we know how that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his
: directors were convicted of war crimes at Nuremburg." (Transcript follows)
: Olbermann also included a response to former Bush Chief-of-Staff Andy Card's
: criticism of Olbermann's and Chris Matthews' "cynical" attitude toward
: Monday's State of the Union Address:
: Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst here. Consider how his former Chief
: of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded Chris Matthews and me after the
: State of the Union Address. "The President's address tonight was very
: important," Card said, "because it really was a sobering call to reality for
: us. And the reality is we have an enemy who wants to hurt us. The primary
: job of the President is to protect us. He talked about protecting us. He
: talked about the needs to have the tools to protect us."
: The Countdown host, who recently admitted to sometimes recusing himself from
: interviewing certain Republicans, deferring to Matthews, because of
: Olbermann's past criticisms of them, on Monday night did not take part in
: interviewing Card, and did not respond after Card called out Olbermann and
: Matthews during a live interview. Card from Monday: "I can't tell you how
: cynical you two sound, and almost every guest you've had on has been very
: cynical. You can't even find an objective skeptic to interview."
: Olbermann concluded his Thursday "Special Comment":
: The eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no impact on
: counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist threat, the
: thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call that's going
: through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next month. Because
: if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand, veto an
: extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to follow,
: you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you would not
: merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you would not
: merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of treason,
: sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if there is
: one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have proved time
: and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you are never
: responsible. Good night and good luck.
: Below is a complete transcript of Olbermann's "Special Comment" from the
: Thursday January 31 Countdown show on MSNBC:
: And finally tonight, as promised, a "Special Comment" of FISA and the
: telecoms. In a presidency of hypocrisy, an administration of exploitation, a
: labyrinth of leadership, in which every vital fact is a puzzle inside a
: riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden under a claim of executive privilege
: supervised by an idiot, this one is surprisingly easy. President Bush has
: put protecting the telecom giants from the laws ahead of protecting you from
: the terrorists. He has demanded an extension of the FISA law, the Foreign
: Intelligence Surveillance Act, but only an extension that includes
: retroactive immunity for the telecoms who helped him spy on you. Congress
: has given him, and he has today signed, a 15-day extension which simply
: kicks the time bomb down the field, and which has changed nothing of his
: insipid rhetoric, in which he portrays the Democrats as soft on terror and
: getting in the way of his superhuman efforts to protect the nation when, in
: fact, and with bitter irony, if anybody is soft on terror right now, it is
: Mr. Bush.
: In the State of the Union Address, sir, you told Congress if you do not act
: by Friday, our ability to track terrorist threats would be weakened, and our
: citizens will be in greater danger. Yet, you are willing to weaken that
: ability. You will subject us, your citizens, to that greater danger. This,
: Mr. Bush, is simple enough even for you to understand. If Congress approves
: a new FISA act without telecom immunity and sends it to your desk and you
: veto it, you by your own terms and your own definitions, you will have just
: sided with the terrorists. You gotta have this law or we're all going to
: die, but you might veto this law.
: It's bad enough, sir, that you are demanding an ex post facto law which
: would clear the phone giants from responsibility for their systematic,
: aggressive, and blatant collaboration with your illegal and unjustified
: spying on Americans under this flimsy guise of looking for any terrorists
: who are stupid enough to make a collect call or send a mass email. but when
: you then demand it again in the State of the Union Address, that Congress
: retroactively clear the Verizons and the AT&T's, you wouldn't even confirm
: that they actually did anything for which they deserve to be cleared. The
: Congress must pass liability protection for companies "believed" to have
: assisted in the efforts to defend America.
: Believe?! Don't you know? Does the endless hair-splitting of your
: presidential fine print extend even here? If you, sir, are asking Congress
: and us to join you in this shameless, breathless literal textbook example of
: fascism, the merged efforts of government and corporations who answer to no
: government, you still don't have the guts to say the telecom companies did
: assist you in your efforts. Will you and the equivocators who surround you
: like a cocoon who never go on the record about anything, even the stuff you
: claim to believe in?
: Silly me. Of course Mr. Bush is going to say "believed." Yes, it sounds
: dumber than if he referred to himself as the "alleged President," or had
: said today was "reportedly Thursday," or had claimed "mission accomplished"
: in Iraq. But the moment he does say anything else, any doubt that the
: telecoms knowingly broke the law is out the window and with it, any chance
: that even the Republicans who are fighting this like they were trying to
: fend off terrorists using nothing but broken beer bottles and swear words
: could not consent to retroactively immunize corporate criminals. Which is
: why the Vice President probably shouldn't have phoned into the Rush Limbaugh
: propaganda festival yesterday. Sixth sentence out of Mr. Cheney's mouth: The
: FISA bill is about, quote, "retroactive liability protection for the
: companies that have worked with us and helped us prevent further attacks
: against the United States."
: Oops. Mr. Cheney is something of a loose cannon, of course, but he kind of
: let the wrong cat out of the bag there because Mr. Bush and the corporations
: that he values more than people, did not want anybody to verify what Mark
: Klein says. Mark Klein is the AT&T whistle blower who appeared on this
: newscast last November, who explained in the placid, dull terms of your
: local neighborhood IT desk how he personally attached all of AT&T's
: circuits, everything, carrying every phone call, every e-mail, every bit of
: Web browsing, into a secure room, room number 641A at the Folsom Street
: facility in San Francisco, where it was all copied so the government could
: look at it. Not some of it, not just the international part of it, certainly
: not just the stuff some truly patriotic and telepathic spy might be able to
: divine had been sent or spoken by or to a terrorist -- everything. Every
: time you looked at a naked picture, every time you bid on eBay. Every time
: you phoned in a donation to a Democrat. "My thought was George Orwell's
: 1984," Mr. Klein told me, reflecting back, "and here I am, forced to connect
: the 'big brother machine.'"
: You know, Mr. Bush, if Mr. Klein's "big brother machine," the one the Vice
: President conveniently just confirmed for us, if it was of any damn use at
: all at actually finding anything, you could probably program it to find out
: who started that slanderous e-mail about Barack Obama. Use room 641A to
: identify that e-assassin, sir, and I'll stand up and applaud you. Yeah, I'm
: holding my breath on that one, too. But, of course, sir, this isn't about
: finding that kind of needle in a hay stack. This is not even about finding a
: haystack. This is about scooping up every piece of hay there ever was and
: laying the ground work for the next little job which you have to outsource
: to AT&T and Verizon and all the rest.
: It was your Director of National Intelligence, Mr. McConnell, letting this
: one out of that same bag. The need for Homeland Security to stave off cyber
: attacks against the government's computer networks. And how do they do that,
: sir? By constantly monitoring the Internet -- the whole Internet. And who
: actually physically does that, Mr. Bush? Right. The same telecom giants for
: whom you want immunity quickly, so quickly you wouldn't believe it, because
: this previous domestic spying, and this upcoming policing of the Internet,
: they may be completely evil, indiscriminate, unlawful, so you have to dress
: it all up as something opposite. It's isn't evil, it's, you said, "to
: protect America." It isn't indiscriminate, you said it's "the ability to
: monitor terrorist communications." It isn't unlawful, it's just the kind of
: perfectly legal thing for which you happen to need immunity.
: There's yet another level to this, and here we move from big brother to
: sleazy son. Mr. Bush's new Attorney General, Mr. Mukasey, the one who's
: already taken four different positions on waterboarding, and who may yet tie
: that record on this subject of telecom immunity, he has a very personal
: stake in all this. There happens to be a partner in the law firm of
: Bracewell and Giuliani named Mark Mukasey. And Bracewell and Giuliani and
: the Attorney General's son Mark just happen to represent Verizon. You know,
: Verizon, telecom giant. And all of a sudden, this is no longer just a farce
: in which protecting the telecoms is dressed up as protecting us from
: terrorist conference calls. Now it begins to look like the bureaucrats of
: the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp family industrial giants by
: literally rewriting the laws of Germany for their benefit. And we know how
: that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his directors were convicted of war
: crimes at Nuremberg.
: Nevertheless, for those of us watching a President demand this specific law,
: the ones the Germans had was called the Lechs Krupp, there is one surprising
: bit of comfort in all of this. Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst
: here. Consider how his former Chief of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded
: Chris Matthews and me after the State of the Union Address. "The President's
: address tonight was very important," Card said, "because it really was a
: sobering call to reality for us. And the reality is we have an enemy who
: wants to hurt us. The primary job of the President is to protect us. He
: talked about protecting us. He talked about the needs to have the tools to
: protect us."
: Indeed, Mr. Bush. The primary job of any President is to protect us, not
: just those of us who own Internet and telephone companies, but all of us.
: And even you, sir, with your intermittent grasp of reality, even with your
: ego greater than 100 percent approval rating, even with your messianic
: petulance, even you could not truly choose to protect the corporations
: instead of the people. I'm not talking about ethics here. I am talking about
: blame. Even if it's you throwing out the baby with the bath water, Mr. Bush,
: it still means we can safely conclude there is no baby. There is not a
: choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or protecting the people
: from terrorists, sir. There is a choice of protecting the telecoms from
: prosecution or pretending to protect the people from terrorists.
: Sorry, Mr. Bush, the eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no
: impact on counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist
: threat, the thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call
: that's going through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next
: month. Because if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand,
: veto an extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to
: follow, you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you
: would not merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you
: would not merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of
: treason, sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if
: there is one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have
: proved time and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you
: are never responsible. Good night and good luck.
: Source:
: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/01/olbermann-invokes-nazi-germany-answers-andy-cards-criticism
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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Who's olbermann and does anyone watch him. I notice that he's on msnbc
so it's a good bet that his ratings are pathetic.
Well, he's not a drug-addled liar like Limbaugh or a sexual pervert like
O'Reilly. He is simply the most astute commentator on TV today.
If you'd like to see his incisive skewering of Bush, go to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTY4Fqq9UTk.
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:SeOdnc6km5x71D7anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > Who's olbermann and does anyone watch him. I notice that he's on msnbc
: > so it's a good bet that his ratings are pathetic.
: Well, he's not a drug-addled liar like Limbaugh or a sexual pervert like
: O'Reilly. He is simply the most astute commentator on TV today.
As your posting history proves that you are a congenital liar completely out
of touch with reality your post can only mean that olby is a brainless lying
dolt like you. No wonder he's been relegated to the wasteland that is msnbc.
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| Title: Re: Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany,Answers Andy Card's Criticism.Unbelievable Folks |
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"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:SeOdnc6km5x71D7anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > Who's olbermann and does anyone watch him. I notice that he's on msnbc
: > so it's a good bet that his ratings are pathetic.
: Well, he's not a drug-addled liar like Limbaugh or a sexual pervert like
: O'Reilly. He is simply the most astute commentator on TV today.
As your posting history proves that you are a congenital liar completely
out
of touch with reality your post can only mean that olby is a brainless
lying
dolt like you.
Now you're projecting your own deep-seated and well-documented flaws onto
your betters.
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| User: "Frank Pittel" |
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| Title: Re: Olbermann Invokes Nazi Germany,Answers Andy Card's Criticism.Unbelievable Folks |
05 Feb 2008 07:40:21 PM |
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: news:CpadnSkm9tQNwTjanZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > In alt.politics.usa.republican Dan Kimmel <daniel.kimmel@rcn.com> wrote:
: >
: > : "Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
: > : news:SeOdnc6km5x71D7anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@giganews.com...
: > : > Who's olbermann and does anyone watch him. I notice that he's on msnbc
: > : > so it's a good bet that his ratings are pathetic.
: >
: > : Well, he's not a drug-addled liar like Limbaugh or a sexual pervert like
: > : O'Reilly. He is simply the most astute commentator on TV today.
: >
: > As your posting history proves that you are a congenital liar completely
: out
: > of touch with reality your post can only mean that olby is a brainless
: lying
: > dolt like you.
: Now you're projecting your own deep-seated and well-documented flaws onto
: your betters.
Thanks for proving my point.
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