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"Henry" |
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16 Aug 2007 07:55:52 PM |
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Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
John P. wrote:
"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
Tell us again why you "think" the block in the right should
reach the ground at about the same time as the block on the
left which has to fall directly through a hundred thousand tons
of undamaged reinforced steel columns. Does air have the same
physical properties as steel on your planet? <chuckle>
<links restored because we can't afford to let radical America
hating extremists and/or terrorists hide the truth>
http://0304.netclime.net/1_5/000/000/360/353/11764162552377148.jpg
http://www.stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
Well, here on earth Chuckles, physics would explain such an event.
Give it a try, kooker. Should be good for a laugh. <chuckle>
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "John P." |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
17 Aug 2007 12:51:01 AM |
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"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
<links restored because...
.... it's the closest Chuckles can come, online, to laying on the ground,
kicking his feet, and screaming "But I WANT it to be a conspiracy, but I
WANT it to be a conspiracy!!!"
Well, here on earth Chuckles, physics would explain such an event.
Give it a try, kooker. Should be good for a laugh. <chuckle>
Start with Gravity Chuckles. I will help you to start to grasp why the
buildings fell *down*.
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
19 Aug 2007 10:32:29 PM |
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John P. wrote:
"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
John P. wrote:
"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
Tell us again why you "think" the block in the right should
reach the ground at about the same time as the block on the
left which has to fall directly through a hundred thousand tons
of undamaged reinforced steel columns. Does air have the same
physical properties as steel on your planet? <chuckle>
<links restored because we can't afford to let radical America
hating extremists and/or terrorists hide the truth>
http://0304.netclime.net/1_5/000/000/360/353/11764162552377148.jpg
http://www.stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
Well, here on earth Chuckles, physics would explain such an event.
Give it a try, kooker. Should be good for a laugh. <chuckle>
Start with Gravity Chuckles.
Insufficient force, as proved through physics. But considering that
you actually "think" the Madrid Tower (shown standing after a 24 hour
raging inferno: http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html) is an
example of a building that completely collapsed due to fire, your
latest bit of idiocy comes as no surprise. <chuckle>
Think about pile driving steel columns deep into the earth. They don't
disintegrate and drop to the ground in pieces on the first or even the
five hundredth impact. In fact, they retain their integrity, and are
used as supports. Steel isn't like glass, kooker. Try again.
Twin Towers:
The massive reserve strength designed into the steel frames of
the towers could not possibly have been overcome by the force
of gravity alone. The fact that it was exceeded to such an
extreme degree that the undamaged steel frame offered no
measurable resistance, proves conclusively that the lower
structures were destroyed before being impacted by the upper
structures.
From:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060327100957690
"The Twin Towers and Why They Fell
It would help to begin with an accurate description of the WTC towers
in terms of quality of design and construction. In July of 1971, the
American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) presented a national award
judging the buildings to be "the engineering project that demonstrates
the greatest engineering skills and represents the greatest
contribution to engineering progress and mankind."3 Others noted that
"the World Trade Center towers would have an inherent capacity to
resist unforeseen calamities." This capacity stemmed from the use of
special high-strength steels. In particular, the perimeter columns
were designed with tremendous reserve strength whereby "live loads on
these columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs.
More on the incredible strength of the towers can be found here:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html
"There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even
greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings.
According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers'
design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well
as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and
the building would still be strong enough to withstand a
100-mile-per-hour wind. 3"
The massive steel frames of the towers were far too strong to
collapse only under their own weight. That's been proved through
physics, and that's why no other steel framed buildings have ever
collapsed that way unless they were demolished. See Gordon Ross'
excellent paper on momentum transfer on this page:
http://worldtradecentertruth.com/
As common sense would dictate, even if all the perimeter and
core columns near the top of the tower were somehow destroyed
simultaneously so that the top 20 stories or so dropped onto the
remaining undamaged frame, after some bending and compression,
the collapse would have stopped, or the upper block would have
fallen off to the side. Gordon Ross proves that with physics.
The official conspiracy requires us to believe that falling
directly =through= the massive undamaged steel frames, including
the 47 interconnected central core columns:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
provided little more resistance than air. This is proved by
the fact that debris falling outside the towers hit the ground
about the same time as the debris falling through the towers.
Making the government's conspiracy theory even more implausible,
is the fact that the steel at the top of the towers was over
ten times lighter and thinner than the undamaged steel in the
lower section. Look at the massive core column cross section in
the bottom photo.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
The official conspiracy theory says that crushing 47 of those
columns, all interconnected with even more steel, =and= destroying
all the perimeter columns, =and= "pancaking" all the floors, and
stairways, produced about the same kinetic friction as falling
though air. That, of course, is not physically possible.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
20 Aug 2007 10:45:46 AM |
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In article <46C90B4D.542F351D@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
John P. wrote:
"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
John P. wrote:
"Henry" <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote in a message
Tell us again why you "think" the block in the right should
reach the ground at about the same time as the block on the
left which has to fall directly through a hundred thousand tons
of undamaged reinforced steel columns. Does air have the same
physical properties as steel on your planet? <chuckle>
<links restored because we can't afford to let radical America
hating extremists and/or terrorists hide the truth>
http://0304.netclime.net/1_5/000/000/360/353/11764162552377148.jpg
http://www.stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
Well, here on earth Chuckles, physics would explain such an event.
Give it a try, kooker. Should be good for a laugh. <chuckle>
Start with Gravity Chuckles.
Insufficient force, as proved through physics. But considering that
"proved through physics"
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
If you disagree, give me a specific name and published paper to
support your claim.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
20 Aug 2007 09:34:17 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
You're still spewing easily refuted conspiracy kook lies and
ignorance. Here, kooker, read and (hopefully) learn.
http://stj911.com/
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
No one with any credibility or expertise can explain (without
controlled demolition) what caused the massive undamaged central
cores of the towers to disintegrate in a matter of seconds, nor
can they explain the free fall speed and symmetric collapse of
WTC7.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 08:53:51 AM |
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In article <46CA4F29.53846B6F@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
You're still spewing easily refuted conspiracy kook lies and
ignorance. Here, kooker, read and (hopefully) learn.
http://stj911.com/
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
No one with any credibility or expertise can explain (without
controlled demolition) what caused the massive undamaged central
cores of the towers to disintegrate in a matter of seconds, nor
can they explain the free fall speed and symmetric collapse of
WTC7.
Post ONE paper that makes your point and with it, the resume of the
person that wrote it.
So far, everyone at j911s that I have checked out is workling outside
his area of expertise and the papers they write are laughed at by
people *with* relevant expertise.
The papers at j911s are rife with bogus citations, a sign that the
"peer review" process is non-existent.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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| User: "Notan notan@ddressthatcanbespammed" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 08:57:18 AM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
In article <46CA4F29.53846B6F@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
You're still spewing easily refuted conspiracy kook lies and
ignorance. Here, kooker, read and (hopefully) learn.
http://stj911.com/
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
No one with any credibility or expertise can explain (without
controlled demolition) what caused the massive undamaged central
cores of the towers to disintegrate in a matter of seconds, nor
can they explain the free fall speed and symmetric collapse of
WTC7.
Post ONE paper that makes your point and with it, the resume of the
person that wrote it.
So far, everyone at j911s that I have checked out is workling outside
his area of expertise and the papers they write are laughed at by
people *with* relevant expertise.
The papers at j911s are rife with bogus citations, a sign that the
"peer review" process is non-existent.
I've always found it amusing as to who certain people/groups consider
their peers.
--
Notan
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 09:45:06 AM |
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In article <Jb-dnRPhD56jclfbnZ2dnUVZ_sDinZ2d@giganews.com>,
Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
In article <46CA4F29.53846B6F@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
You're still spewing easily refuted conspiracy kook lies and
ignorance. Here, kooker, read and (hopefully) learn.
http://stj911.com/
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
No one with any credibility or expertise can explain (without
controlled demolition) what caused the massive undamaged central
cores of the towers to disintegrate in a matter of seconds, nor
can they explain the free fall speed and symmetric collapse of
WTC7.
Post ONE paper that makes your point and with it, the resume of the
person that wrote it.
So far, everyone at j911s that I have checked out is workling outside
his area of expertise and the papers they write are laughed at by
people *with* relevant expertise.
The papers at j911s are rife with bogus citations, a sign that the
"peer review" process is non-existent.
I've always found it amusing as to who certain people/groups consider
their peers.
Also, that a bunch of folks that claim religious affiliation associate
themselves with a movement based on made-up stuff, but maybe that
shouldn't be a suprise.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 09:40:55 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
Also, that a bunch of folks that claim religious affiliation associate
themselves with a movement based on made-up stuff, but maybe that
shouldn't be a suprise.
What's a surprise, is that some people believe them, even
though they have a long record of lies, a clear incentive to
lie, and their magic fire/Super Arab cartoon kook theory has
been proved beyond any doubt by dozens of ubiased irrefutable
experts to be physically impossible. Your kook theory also
contradicts the hard evidence. Your ignorance, stupidity, and
blind faith belief in what has been shown to be physically
impossible is a form of insanity.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 09:41:41 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
In article <46CA4F29.53846B6F@treason.gov>,
Henry <bushcheney@treason.gov> wrote:
Al Dykes wrote:
Nobody with any demonstrated expertise in Physics has shown that they
agree with you.
You're still spewing easily refuted conspiracy kook lies and
ignorance. Here, kooker, read and (hopefully) learn.
http://stj911.com/
http://www.journalof911studies.com/
No one with any credibility or expertise can explain (without
controlled demolition) what caused the massive undamaged central
cores of the towers to disintegrate in a matter of seconds, nor
can they explain the free fall speed and symmetric collapse of
WTC7.
Post ONE paper
Been there, done that. Many times. Nothing presented
by the numerous experts who prove demoliton has been challenged
or refuted. Your turn, kooker. Find just =one= credible expert
who can explain how fires caused either the molten metal, the
squibs, or the free fall collapse speeds of all three demolitions.
Just =one=, kooker.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "GovShill" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
21 Aug 2007 09:51:35 PM |
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On Aug 22, 12:41 pm, Henry <bushche...@treason.gov> wrote:
Find just =one= credible expert
who can explain how fires caused either the molten metal, the
squibs, or the free fall collapse speeds of all three demolitions.
Just =one=, kooker.
There are lot's of kookers who believe there was molten metal, squibs,
or free fall collapses.
There are no credible experts who believe there was molten metal,
squibs, or free fall collapses.
Shill #312
Cubicle 9848. "The" government.
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
23 Aug 2007 08:24:56 PM |
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GovShill wrote:
On Aug 22, 12:41 pm, Henry <bushche...@treason.gov> wrote:
Find just =one= credible expert
who can explain how fires caused either the molten metal, the
squibs, or the free fall collapse speeds of all three demolitions.
Just =one=, kooker.
There are lot's of kookers who believe there was molten metal, squibs,
or free fall collapses.
I suppose no one should be surprised that an mindless, Bush
parroting imbecile would refer to our 9-11 heroes as kookers.
Why do you hate America and Her heroes? Shame on you, imbecile.
http://infowars.net/articles/november2006/171106molten.htm
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/12/why-was-there-molten-metal-under.html
Why was there Molten Metal Under Ground Zero for Months after 9/11?
Molten metal flowed underneath ground zero for months after the Twin
Towers collapsed:
New York firefighters recalled in a documentary film, "heat so intense
they encountered rivers of molten steel."
A NY firefighter described molten steel flowing at ground zero, and said
it was like a "foundry" or like "lava".
A public health adviser who arrived at Ground Zero on September 12, said
that "feeling the heat" and "seeing the molten steel" there reminded him
of a volcano.
An employee of New Jersey's Task Force One Urban Search and Rescue
witnessed "Fires burn[ing and molten steel flow[ing] in the pile of
ruins still settling beneath her feet."
The head of a team of scientists studying the potential health effects
of 9/11, reported, "Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is
very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding
molten steel."
According to a worker involved with the organizing of demolition,
excavation and debris removal operations at ground zero, "Underground it
was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall
from Building 6."
An expert stated about World Trade Center building 7, "A combination of
an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to
bring the building down, some engineers said. But that would not explain
steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been PARTLY
EVAPORATED in extraordinarily high temperatures" (pay-per-view). Note
that evaporation means conversion from a liquid to a gas; so the steel
beams in building 7 were subjected to temperatures high enough to melt
and evaporate them.
A rescue worker "crawled through an opening and down crumpled stairwells
to the subway five levels below ground. He remembers seeing in the
darkness a distant, pinkish glow–molten metal dripping from a beam"
A reporter with rare access to the debris at ground zero "descended deep
below street level to areas where underground fires still burned and
steel flowed in molten streams."
A structural engineer who worked for the Trade Center's original
designer saw "streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and
flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole." (pages 31-32)
An engineer stated in the September 3, 2002 issue of The Structural
Engineer, "They showed us many fascinating slides ranging from molten
metal, which was still red hot weeks after the event."
An Occupational Safety and Health Administration Officer at the Trade
Center reported a fire truck 10 feet below the ground that was still
burning two weeks after the Tower collapsed, "its metal so hot that it
looked like a vat of molten steel."
A witness said “In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would
pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be
dripping molten steel”
The structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, described
fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the
attacks.
According to a member of New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing,
who was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6, "One fireman told
us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers'
remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat
remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots."
A retired professor of physics and atmospheric science said "in
mid-October when they would pull out a steel beam, the lower part would
be glowing dull red, which indicates a temperature on the order of 500
to 600 °C. And we know that people were turning over pieces of concrete
in December that would flash into fire--which requires about 300 °C. So
the surface of the pile cooled rather rapidly, but the bulk of the pile
stayed hot all the way to December."
A fireman stated that there were "oven" like conditions at the trade
centers six weeks after 9/11.
Firemen and hazardous materials experts also stated that, six weeks
after 9/11, "There are pieces of steel being pulled out [from as far as
six stories underground] that are still cherry red" and "the blaze is so
'far beyond a normal fire' that it is nearly impossible to draw
conclusions about it based on other fires." (pay-per-view)
A NY Department of Sanitation spokeswoman said "for about two and a half
months after the attacks, in addition to its regular duties, NYDS played
a major role in debris removal - everything from molten steel beams to
human remains...."
New York mayor Rudy Giuliani said "They were standing on top of a
cauldron. They were standing on top of fires 2,000 degrees that raged
for a hundred days."
As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter
Joe O'Toole saw a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at
Ground Zero, which, he says, "was dripping from the molten steel."
Indeed, the trade center fire was "the longest-burning structural fire
in history", even though it rained heavily on September 14, 2001 and
again on September 21, 2001, and the fires were sprayed with high tech
fire-retardands, and "firetrucks [sprayed] a nearly constant jet of
water on" ground zero."
Indeed, "You couldn't even begin to imagine how much water was pumped in
there," said Tom Manley of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, the
largest fire department union. "It was like you were creating a giant lake."
See also witness statements at the beginning of this video.
For one explanation of why there was molten metal under ground zero for
months after 9/11, see this paper. Also see this essay showing that the
post-collapse temperatures under Building 7 were very similar to those
under Buildings 1 and 2, even though Buildings 1 and 2 were much higher.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "John P." |
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24 Aug 2007 03:53:36 AM |
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"Henry" <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote in a message
Why was there Molten Metal Under Ground Zero for Months after 9/11?
What's your guess Chuckles - hundreds of tons of thermite? Cutter charges?
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| User: "Hertz_Donut" |
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24 Aug 2007 04:48:43 AM |
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"John P." <JohnP_Da_Evil_Joo@WhyAreMoronsAttractedToMe.com> wrote in message
news:Z8GdnXiXuJrdAVPbnZ2dnUVZ_rqlnZ2d@comcast.com...
"Henry" <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote in a message
Why was there Molten Metal Under Ground Zero for Months after 9/11?
What's your guess Chuckles - hundreds of tons of thermite? Cutter charges?
Nah, he'll probably claim that it was WP provided by ***** Cheney, and it was
personally planted there by Bush.
What is truly worrisome is that they let idiots like the OP wandered the
streets....
Honu
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| User: "Henry" |
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25 Aug 2007 06:24:07 PM |
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Hertz_Donut wrote:
What is truly worrisome is...
<drivel snip>
... that Osama is still on the loose and he's about to turn
your playpen into a mushroom cloud? Be afraid, kooker - be very
afraid. Ask King George to murder a few dozen more Iraqi women
and children. Maybe that'll ease your fears. They could be Osama
in disguise, or Osama sympathizers.
Do you also "think" the central cores consisted of a series of
horizontal slabs suspended in space? That's how they were portrayed
on millions of TV's by your ruling masters as part of their brainwashing
campaign.
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1_files/coll_wtcdesign.jpg
Myself and others who work to expose the truth about 9-11 portray
the massive central core structures accurately. This is what they
looked like in reality.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc1cons1.html
Your ruling masters resort to lies and imaginary structures
portrayed in drawings, because actual photo evidence and facts
prove their cartoon kook theories to be impossible.
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1.html
Why do you mindlessly parrot the lies of people whose "research"
is so easily exposed as deliberate and blatant disinformation?
Are you unaware of their many blatant lies, or are you forced to
ignore them because learning the truth would require you to think
for yourself? Are you afraid to abandon your simple fairy tale world
where your ruling masters are the good guys who protect you from the
fearsome "evil doers"? <chuckle>
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Al Dykes" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
26 Aug 2007 08:53:27 AM |
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In article <46D0BA17.23273AD0@insidejob.gov>,
Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
Hertz_Donut wrote:
What is truly worrisome is...
<drivel snip>
... that Osama is still on the loose and he's about to turn
your playpen into a mushroom cloud? Be afraid, kooker - be very
afraid. Ask King George to murder a few dozen more Iraqi women
and children. Maybe that'll ease your fears. They could be Osama
in disguise, or Osama sympathizers.
Do you also "think" the central cores consisted of a series of
horizontal slabs suspended in space? That's how they were portrayed
No.
--
a d y k e s @ p a n i x . c o m
Don't blame me. I voted for Gore. A Proud signature since 2001
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| User: "Henry" |
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27 Aug 2007 07:34:35 PM |
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Al Dykes wrote:
Henry <9-11@insidejob.gov> wrote:
Do you also "think" the central cores consisted of a series of
horizontal slabs suspended in space? That's how they were portrayed
No.
That's how they were portrayed on millions of TV's by your ruling
masters as part of their brainwashing campaign. As always, here's
hard, irrefutable proof.
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1_files/coll_wtcdesign.jpg
Myself and others who work to expose the truth about 9-11 portray
the massive central core structures accurately. This is what they
looked like in reality.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc1cons1.html
Your ruling masters resort to lies and imaginary structures
portrayed in drawings, because actual photo evidence and facts
prove their cartoon kook theories to be impossible.
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/experts/articles/eagar_nova/nova_eagar1.html
Why do you mindlessly parrot the lies of people whose "research"
is so easily exposed as deliberate and blatant disinformation?
Are you unaware of their many blatant lies, or are you forced to
ignore them because learning the truth would require you to think
for yourself? Are you afraid to abandon your simple fairy tale world
where your ruling masters are the good guys who protect you from the
fearsome "evil doers"? <chuckle>
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Vandar" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
27 Aug 2007 07:39:52 PM |
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When your sig is larger than your post, you've run out of intelligence.
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| User: "george" |
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27 Aug 2007 09:37:17 PM |
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On Aug 28, 12:39 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
When your sig is larger than your post, you've run out of intelligence.
That happened to henry before he even got a sig
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
29 Aug 2007 07:52:05 PM |
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george wrote:
On Aug 28, 12:39 pm, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
When your sig is larger than your post, you've run out of intelligence.
That happened to henry before he even got a sig
Magic fire cartoon conspiracy kooks sure are terrified
of addressing the facts and hard evidence. They tend to
present themselves as rather simple minded, gullible,
and childish.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_2_Evidence_for_demolition_20.pdf
The secrecy surrounding the events after 9/11 prevents public
investigation through normal channels. It is still possible
however to examine the surviving available evidence to see what
can be deduced. If it can be readily deduced that explosives
brought down the buildings then the official explanation for the
collapse, which avoids consideration of explosives, must be
reevaluated in an attempt to discover its purpose. What surviving
evidence is there and what can be deduced from it? In my view the
deductions based on videos may be regarded as virtually irrefutable.
Deductions based on photographs and statements by observers may be
weighed by considering the possibility of forgery and the
variability of witness reports.
Observations and deductions from videos
1. WTC 7 collapsed straight down. This requires that, at the moment
of collapse, if caused by fires weakening the supports, not only did
the north and south pair of walls have to be of equal strength, but
also the east and west pair. Without such symmetry this tall
building would inevitably have toppled over. Even if the fires had been
intense and widespread this dual symmetry would have only a very low
probability of existence. Given the uneven distribution of the small
fires at the time of collapse the probability of the required symmetry
vanishes, hence fires did not cause the collapse.
2. The acceleration downwards of WTC 7 was 30 feet per second per
second. This is so close to the free fall acceleration of 32.2 feet
per second per second in a vacuum that virtually no resistance
throughout the fall can have existed. Also the acceleration of WTC
was constant right from the start. Steel softens slowly as it is heated
and, when just failing, still provides substantial resistance. There
was however no sign of the steel giving way gradually as its
temperature rose. These two observations, taken together, imply that
the support structures were instantly and completely severed.
3. A stream of molten metal, yellow-hot and flashing white-hot, was
observed running from WTC 2 near the plane impact region. Shortly after
this the building collapsed. When metal is white hot it is at a
temperature of at least 1200o C, and when yellow it is at about
1000o C, far hotter than possible from the burning of aircraft fuel
or office materials. The use of an oxidizing chemical reaction, such as
occurs with thermite, or something similar, is implied. The thermite
reaction achieves a temperature well in excess of 2000o C, and
produces molten iron as a by-product, melting point 1540o C. It is
used to cut steel, melting point about 1500o C.
4. During the collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2 vast clouds of dense dust and
portions of the steel columns were violently thrown out.5 The dust came
mainly from the pulverization of the concrete that was in the floors.
The dust cloud and steel were evident early in the collapse, before the
parts had picked up much speed, so cannot have come from component
impacts. For the pulverization of the concrete, and also to rapidly
expand the dust cloud against the pressure of the atmosphere, a very
substantial additional source of energy is required. The theory that
this energy could have come from the potential energy in the building
is clearly untenable as virtually all of the potential energy had to be
consumed in providing the kinetic energy for the high downward
acceleration, so close to free fall.9
5. Computer simulations by Lu and Jiang show that, for WTC 1 and WTC 2,
collapse in the fire damaged region would have been impossible at the
known temperature of the steel supports.
6. Calculations by Gordon Ross show that, if a floor near the plane
impact site instantly and totally disintegrated, the energy available
from the falling of the top portion would not be sufficient to provide
the energy needed to sustain the collapse through the undamaged
lower portion. Thus, in the absence of explosives, the top would have
decelerated and come to rest.
Deductions from observer statements and photographs
1. Weeks after 9/11 workers were still unearthing extremely hot
material. A photograph shows solid yellow-hot metal clamped in
the jaws of an excavator. The color shows this to be at least
1000o C. This cannot be aluminium, which melts at 660o C, and
therefore must be iron or steel. It is impossible for a fire without
a dense supply of fuel and forced draft to achieve such high
temperatures, hence another energy source must have been involved.
2. Molten metal was observed in the basement of all three buildings
and the high temperatures were confirmed by aerial infra-red imaging.
This observation can be readily explained by the use of thermite which
contains a chemical oxidant, so does not depend on an air supply. The
by-product of its reaction is molten iron. This would explain not only
the high temperatures achieved in a confined space but also the
presence of liquid metal, as described more fully in point 3 of the
list above.
3. Numerous eye witnesses reported hearing and feeling explosions. Some
were injured and some reported being blown off their feet.
4. A photograph of WTC 2 shortly after the collapse commenced shows the
falling top block distorting, though it was straight just before the
fall commenced. As there can be no force acting on the block during
free fall, this could not have occurred unless the block had already
lost its support structure.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21
"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
.
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| User: "Henry" |
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| Title: Re: WTC Towers: The case for controlled demolition |
29 Aug 2007 07:51:18 PM |
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Vandar wrote:
When your sig is larger than your post, you've run out of
intelligence.
When you repeatedly resort to spewing irrelevant when
you're challenged to defend or explain your comically
impossible cartoon conspiracy theory, you probably never
had much intelligence.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_2_Evidence_for_demolition_20.pdf
The secrecy surrounding the events after 9/11 prevents public
investigation through normal channels. It is still possible
however to examine the surviving available evidence to see what
can be deduced. If it can be readily deduced that explosives
brought down the buildings then the official explanation for the
collapse, which avoids consideration of explosives, must be
reevaluated in an attempt to discover its purpose. What surviving
evidence is there and what can be deduced from it? In my view the
deductions based on videos may be regarded as virtually irrefutable.
Deductions based on photographs and statements by observers may be
weighed by considering the possibility of forgery and the
variability of witness reports.
Observations and deductions from videos
1. WTC 7 collapsed straight down. This requires that, at the moment
of collapse, if caused by fires weakening the supports, not only did
the north and south pair of walls have to be of equal strength, but
also the east and west pair. Without such symmetry this tall
building would inevitably have toppled over. Even if the fires had been
intense and widespread this dual symmetry would have only a very low
probability of existence. Given the uneven distribution of the small
fires at the time of collapse the probability of the required symmetry
vanishes, hence fires did not cause the collapse.
2. The acceleration downwards of WTC 7 was 30 feet per second per
second. This is so close to the free fall acceleration of 32.2 feet
per second per second in a vacuum that virtually no resistance
throughout the fall can have existed. Also the acceleration of WTC
was constant right from the start. Steel softens slowly as it is heated
and, when just failing, still provides substantial resistance. There
was however no sign of the steel giving way gradually as its
temperature rose. These two observations, taken together, imply that
the support structures were instantly and completely severed.
3. A stream of molten metal, yellow-hot and flashing white-hot, was
observed running from WTC 2 near the plane impact region. Shortly after
this the building collapsed. When metal is white hot it is at a
temperature of at least 1200o C, and when yellow it is at about
1000o C, far hotter than possible from the burning of aircraft fuel
or office materials. The use of an oxidizing chemical reaction, such as
occurs with thermite, or something similar, is implied. The thermite
reaction achieves a temperature well in excess of 2000o C, and
produces molten iron as a by-product, melting point 1540o C. It is
used to cut steel, melting point about 1500o C.
4. During the collapse of WTC 1 and WTC 2 vast clouds of dense dust and
portions of the steel columns were violently thrown out.5 The dust came
mainly from the pulverization of the concrete that was in the floors.
The dust cloud and steel were evident early in the collapse, before the
parts had picked up much speed, so cannot have come from component
impacts. For the pulverization of the concrete, and also to rapidly
expand the dust cloud against the pressure of the atmosphere, a very
substantial additional source of energy is required. The theory that
this energy could have come from the potential energy in the building
is clearly untenable as virtually all of the potential energy had to be
consumed in providing the kinetic energy for the high downward
acceleration, so close to free fall.9
5. Computer simulations by Lu and Jiang show that, for WTC 1 and WTC 2,
collapse in the fire damaged region would have been impossible at the
known temperature of the steel supports.
6. Calculations by Gordon Ross show that, if a floor near the plane
impact site instantly and totally disintegrated, the energy available
from the falling of the top portion would not be sufficient to provide
the energy needed to sustain the collapse through the undamaged
lower portion. Thus, in the absence of explosives, the top would have
decelerated and come to rest.
Deductions from observer statements and photographs
1. Weeks after 9/11 workers were still unearthing extremely hot
material. A photograph shows solid yellow-hot metal clamped in
the jaws of an excavator. The color shows this to be at least
1000o C. This cannot be aluminium, which melts at 660o C, and
therefore must be iron or steel. It is impossible for a fire without
a dense supply of fuel and forced draft to achieve such high
temperatures, hence another energy source must have been involved.
2. Molten metal was observed in the basement of all three buildings
and the high temperatures were confirmed by aerial infra-red imaging.
This observation can be readily explained by the use of thermite which
contains a chemical oxidant, so does not depend on an air supply. The
by-product of its reaction is molten iron. This would explain not only
the high temperatures achieved in a confined space but also the
presence of liquid metal, as described more fully in point 3 of the
list above.
3. Numerous eye witnesses reported hearing and feeling explosions. Some
were injured and some reported being blown off their feet.
4. A photograph of WTC 2 shortly after the collapse commenced shows the
falling top block distorting, though it was straight just before the
fall commenced. As there can be no force acting on the block during
free fall, this could not have occurred unless the block had already
lost its support structure.
--
http://911research.wtc7.net
http://stj911.org
http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html
http://www.911truth.org
Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html
On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html
http://wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
