OH MY GOD! http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
LIBERALS "LIKE" CHRIST! Not "love", like, or are like him. Either way it
is a pathetic web site. Look at this car salesman. With his hands.
Anyone that believed this bullshitter and ***** from this sorry *****
cite, should have had their head examined. This picture in this cite is
a keeper. Nothing depicts his insincerity then this picture. Just like
the assholes with the cite "liberals like Christ" Give me a break!
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23 Apr 2006 02:26:55 PM |
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"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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OH MY GOD! http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
LIBERALS "LIKE" CHRIST! Not "love", like, or are like him.
Hey, moron.
You might want to look up the word "metaphor":
Main Entry: met·a·phor
Pronunciation: 'me-t&-"for also -f&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French metaphore, from Latin
metaphora, from Greek, from metapherein to transfer, from meta- + pherein to
bear -- more at BEAR
1 : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind
of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or
analogy between them (as in drowning in money); broadly : figurative
language -- compare SIMILE
2 : an object, activity, or idea treated as a metaphor
Example: Republicans are LIKE assholes - they stink and nothing but *****
comes out of them.
Fucking idiot.
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you left no sense of decency?"
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23 Apr 2006 02:34:47 PM |
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Joseph Welch wrote:
"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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OH MY GOD! http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
LIBERALS "LIKE" CHRIST! Not "love", like, or are like him.
Hey, moron.
You might want to look up the word "metaphor":
Main Entry: met·a·phor
Pronunciation: 'me-t&-"for also -f&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French metaphore, from Latin
metaphora, from Greek, from metapherein to transfer, from meta- + pherein to
bear -- more at BEAR
1 : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind
of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or
analogy between them (as in drowning in money); broadly : figurative
language -- compare SIMILE
2 : an object, activity, or idea treated as a metaphor
Example: Republicans are LIKE assholes - they stink and nothing but *****
comes out of them.
Fucking idiot.
LOL you are too funny. So what you're telling me is that liberals are
like him. They stand for everything He stands for. Including abortions,
blow jobs in the white house, lying to a grand jury, adultery...You
people never cease to amaze me.
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23 Apr 2006 04:26:45 PM |
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"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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LOL you are too funny.
No, you are just too stupid.
So what you're telling me is that liberals are like him.
I take it that English isn't your first language?
"Liberals like Christ" means Christ was a liberal.
They stand for everything He stands for. Including abortions
Christ never mentioned abortion.
blow jobs in the white house, lying to a grand jury, adultery
He never mentioned any of those things either. He did however caution those
about to stone Mary Magdalene to death (per the laws of the Old Testament)
to feel free and toss the first stone - provided they themselves were
without sin.
Nobody threw any stones.
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
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23 Apr 2006 04:37:00 PM |
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Joseph Welch wrote:
"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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LOL you are too funny.
No, you are just too stupid.
So what you're telling me is that liberals are like him.
I take it that English isn't your first language?
"Liberals like Christ" means Christ was a liberal.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! Christ was a liberal! AHHHHHHHHHH!
Now I heard it all! *****! My stomach is going to burst. I think I just
***** my pants.
They stand for everything He stands for. Including abortions
Christ never mentioned abortion.
So anything that Christ didn't mentioned in the Bible is OK? LOL
blow jobs in the white house, lying to a grand jury, adultery
He never mentioned any of those things either.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT!
He did however caution those about to stone Mary Magdalene to death
(per the laws of the Old Testament)
to feel free and toss the first stone - provided they themselves were without sin.
Nobody threw any stones.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! I guess that we can all presume that
theology is not your favorite subject.
Where do you guys get your material. I have never laugh so hard.
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23 Apr 2006 08:41:50 PM |
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"Liberals like Christ" means Christ was a liberal.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! Christ was a liberal! AHHHHHHHHHH!
Yep. He sure was. He sure as hell wasn't a right-wing conservative, or
anything remotely like one.
Now I heard it all!
I seriously doubt it.
*****! My stomach is going to burst. I think I just ***** my pants.
I'm not surprised. Incontinence is a common problem among bedwetting
right-wing lunatics like you.
Christ never mentioned abortion.
So anything that Christ didn't mentioned in the Bible is OK? LOL
You claim he was against it. If he was so all-fired against abortion -
don't you think he would have mentioned it?
Sheesh, you right-wing lunatics are some stupid motherfuckers.
He did however caution those about to stone Mary Magdalene to death (per
the laws of the Old Testament) to feel free and toss the first stone -
provided they themselves were without sin.
Nobody threw any stones.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! I guess that we can all presume that
theology is not your favorite subject.
It most definitely is one of my favorite subjects. Why would you presume
otherwise?
Where do you guys get your material. I have never laugh so hard.
As far as the words of Christ and parables - that would be the Holy Bible
(King James version).
Why do you ask?
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
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23 Apr 2006 11:42:22 PM |
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Joseph Welch wrote:
"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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"Liberals like Christ" means Christ was a liberal.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! Christ was a liberal! AHHHHHHHHHH!
Yep. He sure was. He sure as hell wasn't a right-wing conservative, or
anything remotely like one.
Do you honestly think and believe that Jesus Christ was a liberal? What
makes Him a liberal?
Now I heard it all!
I seriously doubt it.
*****! My stomach is going to burst. I think I just ***** my pants.
I'm not surprised. Incontinence is a common problem among bedwetting
right-wing lunatics like you.
Christ never mentioned abortion.
So anything that Christ didn't mentioned in the Bible is OK? LOL
You claim he was against it. If he was so all-fired against abortion -
don't you think he would have mentioned it?
So let me get this right. He was for the woman to have the right to
choose abortion, at the same time He was not concerned about the life of
the fetus. I'm I right in assuming that? Which Jesus are you talking
about again? The one in the Da Vinci Code? Not the one in the Bible,
that's for sure.
Abortion - Accidental or planned miscarriage.
Laws concerning
Exodus 21:22-25 From your "King James Bible"
22. "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he
shall pay as the judges determine."
23: "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,"
24: "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot"
25: "Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe"
Pronounced as a judgment.
Hosea 9:14 "Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a
miscarrying womb and dry breasts."
Sought to relieve misery.
Job 3:16 "Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants
which never saw light."
Of animals by thunder.
Psalms 29:9 NIV: "The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth, And
strips the forests bare; And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!"
Figurative of abrupt conversion.
1 Corinthians 15:8 "Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one
born out of due time."
And last but not least;
Jesus said;
Mt 18:6 -
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to
sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Mt 18:14 -
Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one
of these little ones should perish.
Lu 17:2 -
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of
these little ones.
How much more do you think He felt about the unborn? I don't need to
claim that Jesus was against abortion. Your King James Version speaks
for itself. It is obvious to anyone that the creator of the universe
cares about the unborn. It might be one of your favorite subjects, that
you are not familiar with.
Sheesh, you right-wing lunatics are some stupid motherfuckers.
And I suppose that Jesus felt the same way, right? LOL
He did however caution those about to stone Mary Magdalene to death (per
the laws of the Old Testament) to feel free and toss the first stone -
provided they themselves were without sin.
Nobody threw any stones.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! I guess that we can all presume that
theology is not your favorite subject.
It most definitely is one of my favorite subjects. Why would you presume
otherwise?
ROLOL.. By your assessment of who Jesus was and what he thought and
taught, a big NO. It might be one of your favorite subjects, that you
know nothing of.
Where do you guys get your material. I have never laugh so hard.
As far as the words of Christ and parables - that would be the Holy Bible
(King James version).
LOL. I'm sorry. King James Version only? What about the NKJ, NIV, NAS,
NRS, NC, RS. Are any of these any good?
Why do you ask?
Just curious ;-)
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24 Apr 2006 10:07:50 AM |
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"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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Do you honestly think and believe that Jesus Christ was a liberal?
Yep.
What makes Him a liberal?
The same things that make modern liberals "liberals". He favored peace over
war. He demanded care for the poor. He condemned the wealthy and the
usurous. He called for love towards our enemies. He disavowed condemnation
of sinners by other sinners. He believed in paying one's taxes.
So let me get this right. He was for the woman to have the right to choose
abortion, at the same time He was not concerned about the life of the
fetus. I'm I right in assuming that? Which Jesus are you talking about
again? The one in the Da Vinci Code? Not the one in the Bible, that's for
sure.
Abortion - Accidental or planned miscarriage.
Laws concerning
Exodus 21:22-25
Old Testament. Not Jesus, and doesn't refer to abortion but to assaulting a
woman resulting in a miscarriage.
Hosea 9:14
Also Old Testament - not the words of Jesus. Also not about abortion.
Job 3:16
Guess what? Old Testament. Not Jesus. Not about abortion, either.
Psalms 29:9
Old Testament. Not Jesus. Not about abortion, either.
1 Corinthians 15:8
New Testament - congratulations! Not the words of Jesus, not about
abortion.
Jesus said;
Mt 18:6 -
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin,
it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and
he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
The words of Jesus (finally!). Not about abortion.
Mt 18:14 -
Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of
these little ones should perish.
Not about abortion.
Lu 17:2 -
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck,
and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these
little ones.
You're repeating yourself.
How much more do you think He felt about the unborn?
No idea. Most of the cites you have provided were from the Old Testament,
and NONE of them were about abortion. If you want to discuss God's
attitudes about abortion, the Bible is rife with examples of God not valuing
the lives of the BORN, much less the unborn.
I don't need to claim that Jesus was against abortion.
And yet you have - and proven yourself wrong.
Your King James Version speaks for itself.
Indeed. You've provided the very evidence of the bogusness of your claim.
Damn, you right-wing radicals are some stupid motherfuckers.
It is obvious to anyone that the creator of the universe cares about the
unborn.
Not really, no. The born either. God has on numerous occasion (according
to Christian mythology) called for the deaths of innocents - including
children, sometimes to punish their parents.
It might be one of your favorite subjects, that you are not familiar with.
More familiar than you. Hell - I'm not the one running around claiming that
Jesus spoke in the Old Testament - before He was even born.
Sheesh, you right-wing lunatics are some stupid motherfuckers.
And I suppose that Jesus felt the same way, right?
He would not have claimed you were stupid. Merely uninformed, and in some
cases downright evil. He would have claimed that you were choosing evil
over good. I tend to agree, but want to give some of you scumbags the
benefit of the doubt and believe that your lack of intelligence is a
disadvantage that you find difficult to overcome.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! I guess that we can all presume that
theology is not your favorite subject.
It most definitely is one of my favorite subjects. Why would you presume
otherwise?
ROLOL.. By your assessment of who Jesus was and what he thought and
taught, a big NO.
YOU are the one that apparently believes that Jesus spoke in the Old
Testament. Sheesh.
It might be one of your favorite subjects, that you know nothing of.
I know a hell of a lot more than you do.
As far as the words of Christ and parables - that would be the Holy Bible
(King James version).
LOL. I'm sorry. King James Version only? What about the NKJ, NIV, NAS,
NRS, NC, RS. Are any of these any good?
To those who subscribe to them as part of their faith, they are "good"
indeed.
Why do you ask?
Just curious ;-)
The evidence is that you are not in fact "curious" at all.
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"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
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24 Apr 2006 08:28:27 AM |
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"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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Joseph Welch wrote:
"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
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"Liberals like Christ" means Christ was a liberal.
ROLOL....AHHHHHHHHHHHH STOP IT! Christ was a liberal! AHHHHHHHHHH!
Yep. He sure was. He sure as hell wasn't a right-wing conservative, or
anything remotely like one.
Do you honestly think and believe that Jesus Christ was a liberal? What
makes Him a liberal?
Of course we was a liberal. He had problems with the pharisees and threw
the money changers out of the temple. He gave the Sermon on the Mount and
just before his death he showed us how to remember him with easy to get and
use thing. Christ loved the poor, the weak and had little time for those of
the ruling class like Pilate and those fun pharisees.
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In article <OGY2g.7361$543.1181@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
YankFan ® <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote:
Do you honestly think and believe that Jesus Christ was a liberal? What
makes Him a liberal?
"And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard
for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:23
"It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich
man to enter into the kingdom of God." Mark 10:25, Matthew 19:24 and
Luke 18:25
"See that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you,
that in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father who
is in heaven." Matthew 18:9
"Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine
linen, faring sumptuously every day: and a certain beggar named Lazarus
was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the
crumbs that fell from the rich man's table; yea, even the dogs come and
licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and that he
was carried away by the angels into Abraham's bosom: and the rich man
also died, and was buried. And in Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in
torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
Matthew 20:23
So let me get this right. He was for the woman to have the right to
choose abortion, at the same time He was not concerned about the life of
the fetus. I'm I right in assuming that? Which Jesus are you talking
about again? The one in the Da Vinci Code? Not the one in the Bible,
that's for sure.
Jesus never said anything about abortion, as far was we know.
Abortion - Accidental or planned miscarriage.
Laws concerning
Exodus 21:22-25 From your "King James Bible"
22. "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he
shall pay as the judges determine."
But if it was OK with the husband, no harm done, according to Exodus.
The idea was that the husband was to be compensated for his loss.
23: "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,"
24: "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot"
25: "Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe"
In other words, if his wife is injured, he's entitled to demand
retribution for the harm to his wife.
Pronounced as a judgment.
Hosea 9:14 "Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a
miscarrying womb and dry breasts."
No relevance here.
Sought to relieve misery.
Job 3:16 "Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants
which never saw light."
Has nothing to do with abortion either.
Of animals by thunder.
Psalms 29:9 NIV: "The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth, And
strips the forests bare; And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!"
What do you think this means? God approves environmental destruction???
Figurative of abrupt conversion.
1 Corinthians 15:8 "Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one
born out of due time."
This is Paul referring to his vision, described in Acts. He likens
himself to an unexpected younger brother to the Twelve.
And last but not least;
Jesus said;
Mt 18:6 -
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to
sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Like Klansmen?
Mt 18:14 -
Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one
of these little ones should perish.
Yet they all do. Ironic, don't you think?
Lu 17:2 -
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of
these little ones.
How much more do you think He felt about the unborn? I don't need to
claim that Jesus was against abortion. Your King James Version speaks
for itself. It is obvious to anyone that the creator of the universe
cares about the unborn. It might be one of your favorite subjects, that
you are not familiar with.
It's not obvious. You have to twist the words to make it seem so.
Christian opposition to abortion is based on better theology than
you've managed to marshall.
He did however caution those about to stone Mary Magdalene to death (per
the laws of the Old Testament) to feel free and toss the first stone -
provided they themselves were without sin.
That was an unnamed woman, almost certainly not Mary Magdalene.
Where do you guys get your material. I have never laugh so hard.
As far as the words of Christ and parables - that would be the Holy Bible
(King James version).
LOL. I'm sorry. King James Version only? What about the NKJ, NIV, NAS,
NRS, NC, RS. Are any of these any good?
Many of them are better translations, and do not impose the burden on
the reader of translating from 17th-century to 21st-century English.
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Hugh Gibbons wrote:
In article <OGY2g.7361$543.1181@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
YankFan ® <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote:
Do you honestly think and believe that Jesus Christ was a liberal? What
makes Him a liberal?
"And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard
for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:23
"verily I say unto you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the
kingdom of heaven".... either into the Gospel dispensation, and receive
the truths, and submit to the ordinances of it, or into the kingdom of
glory hereafter; not but that there have been, are, and will be, some
that are rich, called by grace, brought into a Gospel church state, and
are heirs of the kingdom of heaven; though these are but comparatively
few: nor is it riches themselves that make the entrance so difficult,
and clog the way, either into grace or glory, but putting trust and
confidence in them; and therefore in Mark, they "that have riches", are
by Christ explained of such, that "trust in riches"; and which rich men
in common are very apt to do, as this young man did, against which the
apostle cautions, (1 Timothy 6:17) "Command those who are rich in this
present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which
is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us
with everything for our enjoyment."
Does it mean that the the most liberal people on earth, beginning with
the Kennedy's will never see the kingdom of heaven? Does Jesus hate the
rich in general. Does that mean that Solomon, considered the riches man
in the world, would never see the kingdom of God? Or are you implying
that republicans are considered rich and therefore, they're ALL going to
hell, because they are "rich republicans"?
"It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich
man to enter into the kingdom of God." Mark 10:25, Matthew 19:24 and
Luke 18:25
Matthew 19:24
"And again I say unto you"…
After the apostles had discovered their astonishment at the above
expression, about the difficulty of a rich man entering into the kingdom
of heaven; when they expected that, in a short time, all the rich and
great men of the nation would espouse the interest of the Messiah, and
acknowledge him as a temporal king, and add to the grandeur of his state
and kingdom; and after he had in a mild and gentle manner, calling them
"children", explained himself of such, that trusted in uncertain riches,
served mammon, made these their gods, and placed their hope and
happiness in them; in order to strengthen and confirm what he had before
asserted, and to assure, in the strongest manner, the very great
difficulty, and seeming impossibility, of rich men becoming followers of
Christ here, or companions with him hereafter, he expresses himself in
this proverbial way:
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than
for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God":
thus, when the Jews would express anything that was rare and unusual,
difficult and impossible, they used a like saying with this. So speaking
of showing persons the interpretation of their dreams;
``Says Rabba, you know they do not show to a man a golden palm tree
i.e. the interpretation of a dream about one, which, as the gloss says,
is a thing he is not used to see, and of which he never thought, (ajxmd
apwqb lyyed) (alyp alw) , "nor an elephant going through the eye of a
needle".''
Again, to one that had delivered something as was thought very absurd,
it is said;
``perhaps thou art one of Pombeditha (a school of the Jews in
Babylon) (ajxmd apwqb alyp Nylyyemd) , "who make an elephant pass
through the eye of a needle".''
That is, who teach such things as are equally as monstrous and absurd,
and difficult of belief. So the authors of an edition of the book of
Zohar, to set forth the difficulty of the work they engaged in, express
themselves in this manner:
``In the name of our God, we have seen fit, (ajxmd apwqb) (alyp
oynkhl) , "to bring an elephant through the eye of a needle".''
And not only among the Jews, but in other eastern nations, this
proverbial way of speaking was used, to signify difficulties or
impossibilities. Mahomet has it in his Alcoran;
``Verily, says he, they who shall charge our signs with falsehood,
and shall proudly reject them, the gates of heaven shall not be opened
to them, neither shall they enter into paradise, "until a camel pass
through the eye of a needle".''
All which show, that there is no need to suppose, that by a camel is
meant, not the creature so called, but a cable rope, as some have
thought; since these common proverbs manifestly make it appear, that a
creature is intended, and which aggravates the difficulty: the reason
why instead of an elephant, as used in most of the above sayings, Christ
makes mention of a camel, may be, because that might be more known in
Judea, than the other; and because the hump on its back would serve to
make the thing still more impracticable.
"See that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you,
that in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father who
is in heaven." Matthew 18:9
"Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine
linen, faring sumptuously every day: and a certain beggar named Lazarus
was laid at his gate, full of sores, and desiring to be fed with the
crumbs that fell from the rich man's table; yea, even the dogs come and
licked his sores. And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and that he
was carried away by the angels into Abraham's bosom: and the rich man
also died, and was buried. And in Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in
torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
Matthew 20:23
So let me get this right. He was for the woman to have the right to
choose abortion, at the same time He was not concerned about the life of
the fetus. I'm I right in assuming that? Which Jesus are you talking
about again? The one in the Da Vinci Code? Not the one in the Bible,
that's for sure.
Jesus never said anything about abortion, as far was we know.
Abortion - Accidental or planned miscarriage.
Laws concerning
Exodus 21:22-25 From your "King James Bible"
22. "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit
depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely
punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he
shall pay as the judges determine."
But if it was OK with the husband, no harm done, according to Exodus.
The idea was that the husband was to be compensated for his loss.
23: "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,"
24: "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot"
25: "Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe"
In other words, if his wife is injured, he's entitled to demand
retribution for the harm to his wife.
Pronounced as a judgment.
Hosea 9:14 "Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a
miscarrying womb and dry breasts."
No relevance here.
Really. It means that the Lord is the only one who determines, to give
life or not. He opens or closes the womb. It is not up to us to end a
life that he has given by abortion.
Mother Teresa when she spoke January 3, 1994 at the President's Prayer
Breakfast in Washington, D.C. At that time of course, President Clinton
and his wife Hillary were present. And President Clinton at that time
was President of the United States. And she got to speak and spoke of
the poor, the hungry, the homeless, and her work among those people. But
then she went to the heart of what she wanted to say. She said,
"but I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion.
Because it is a war against the child. A direct killing of the innocent
child, murdered by the mother her self. And if we accept that a mother
can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill
one another. Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching the
people to love but to use violence to get what ever it wants. This is
why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion. Many people
are very, very concerned with the children of India, the children of
Africa where quite a few die of hunger and so on, many people are also
concerned about all the violence in this great country of the United
States. These concerns are very good, but often these same people are
not concerned with the millions who are being killed by the deliberate
decision of their own mothers. And this is what is a great destroyer of
peace today, abortion, which brings people to such blindness. If we
remember that God loves us and we can love others as He loves us, then
America can become a sign of peace for the world. From here a sign of
care for the weakest of the weak, the unborn child must go out to the
world. If you become a burning light of justice and peace in the world,
then really you will be true to what the founders of this country stood
for."
It must have been uncomfortable for the President and the First Lady of
the United States that day whose position was very firmly the prochoice
position as Mother Teresa took the opportunity to speak against them and
against the position for all those who voted for them and all those who
sided with them in the prochoice movement.
Proverbs 24:11-12 "Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those
staggering toward slaughter. If you say, "But we knew nothing about
this," does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who
guards your life know it? Will he not repay each person according to
what he has done?"
Sought to relieve misery.
Job 3:16 "Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants
which never saw light."
Has nothing to do with abortion either.
Of animals by thunder.
Psalms 29:9 NIV: "The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth, And
strips the forests bare; And in His temple everyone says, "Glory!"
What do you think this means? God approves environmental destruction???
Figurative of abrupt conversion.
1 Corinthians 15:8 "Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one
born out of due time."
This is Paul referring to his vision, described in Acts. He likens
himself to an unexpected younger brother to the Twelve.
"one born out of due time:
or "as an abortive"; not that he was really one, but like one: several
learned interpreters think the apostle refers to a proverbial way of
speaking among the common people at Rome, who used to call such
supernumerary senators in the times of Augustus Caesar, who got into the
senate house by favour or bribery, "abortives" F9,( F9 Vid. Sueton. in
Vita August. c. 35.) they being generally very unworthy persons; and
therefore calls himself by this name, as being in his own opinion a
supernumerary apostle, and very unworthy of that office: though others
rather think that he refers to a "posthumous" birth, to one that is born
after the death of his father; because that the rest of the apostles
were all chosen, and called, and sent forth, whilst Christ, their
everlasting Father, was living on earth, but he not till after his
death, resurrection from the dead, and ascension to heaven: but it seems
best to understand him of an abortion, a miscarriage, or birth before
its time; and may respect either the manner of his conversion, which was
done both suddenly, immediately, and at once, by a sudden light from
heaven, when he little thought of it, and had no expectation of it,
which is commonly the case of abortions; and also powerfully and
irresistibly, being effected by mighty and efficacious grace, as births
before the full time are often occasioned by blows or outward force, and
are violent extrusions of the foetus; or else the state and condition in
which he was when Christ was first seen by him: as to his bodily state,
as soon as ever he saw the light about him, and the object by it, he was
struck blind, and continued so some days, like an hidden untimely birth,
and like an infant that never saw light, (Job 3:16) . And as to his
spiritual estate, his soul was like an unshapen foetus, Christ being not
yet formed in him, his image stamped on him, and his grace implanted in
him; yea, it may be applied to the present apprehensions he had of
himself, and which he expresses without a figure in the next verse,
though in a beautiful manner, with a view to what he here says, when he
observes that he was "the least of the apostles, and not meet to be
called" one; as an abortive, or one born before its time, is imperfect
in one respect or another, is not come to its proper size and shape, and
scarcely is to be reckoned in the class and number of men.
And last but not least;
Jesus said;
Mt 18:6 -
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to
sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Like Klansmen?
Mt 18:14 -
Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one
of these little ones should perish.
Yet they all do. Ironic, don't you think?
What else would you say, to defend the argument.
Lu 17:2 -
It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his
neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of
these little ones.
How much more do you think He felt about the unborn? I don't need to
claim that Jesus was against abortion. Your King James Version speaks
for itself. It is obvious to anyone that the creator of the universe
cares about the unborn. It might be one of your favorite subjects, that
you are not familiar with.
It's not obvious. You have to twist the words to make it seem so.
Christian opposition to abortion is based on better theology than
you've managed to marshall.
He did however caution those about to stone Mary Magdalene to death (per
the laws of the Old Testament) to feel free and toss the first stone -
provided they themselves were without sin.
That was an unnamed woman, almost certainly not Mary Magdalene.
The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses,
do not have John 7:53-8:11. The immediate context, beginning with
Christ's declaration, I am the light of the world" (8:12) seems clearly
to have its occasion in the conviction wrought in the hearts of the
Pharisees as recorded in 8:9, and also helps to explain the Pharisees'
words in 8:41. It is therefore to be considered to be a genuine part of
the Gospel.
You are correct in Mary Magdalene not being mentioned at all by name in
this segment of the Gospel. It might have been that she was the wife of
one Manasseh of Jerusalem, an old man, whose name was Susanna, (Vid.
Selden. Uxor Hebr. l. 3. c. 11. p. 377.)
Where do you guys get your material. I have never laugh so hard.
As far as the words of Christ and parables - that would be the Holy Bible
(King James version).
LOL. I'm sorry. King James Version only? What about the NKJ, NIV, NAS,
NRS, NC, RS. Are any of these any good?
Many of them are better translations, and do not impose the burden on
the reader of translating from 17th-century to 21st-century English.
I agree.
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"YankFan ®" <YankFan@ThePatriot.org> wrote in message
news:i6Q2g.12517$3W1.2849@tornado.socal.rr.com...
OH MY GOD! http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
LIBERALS "LIKE" CHRIST! Not "love", like, or are like him. Either way it
is a pathetic web site. Look at this car salesman. With his hands. Anyone
that believed this bullshitter and ***** from this sorry ***** cite,
should have had their head examined. This picture in this cite is a
keeper. Nothing depicts his insincerity then this picture. Just like the
assholes with the cite "liberals like Christ" Give me a break!
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