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"Harry Hope" |
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11 May 2005 04:49:59 PM |
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209 Republicans Vote to Slash Medicaid and Turn it Into Pork |
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
209 Members Vote to Slash Medicaid, Fund Pork
Two weeks ago, 214 House members voted to approve a federal budget
that slashes Medicaid by $10 billion.
Medicaid provides health services to America’s most vulnerable -- poor
kids, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Yes, their lives will be tougher, the anti-Medicaid contigent said,
but the deficits! Entitlement spending must be scaled back! We have to
restore fiscal discipline!
Now, the Senate and House are wrangling over a new highway bill.
All but five of those representatives voted for the bill, which
includes:
-----$25 million for a "Bridge to Nowhere," connecting two South
Carolina towns with a combined population of 2,000.
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8902
----- $3 million for the National Packard Museum in Warren, Ohio,
where the Packard automobile was first produced; $1.5 million for the
Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.; and $400,000 for the Erie Canal
Museum in Syracuse, N.Y.
http://www.manufacturing.net/lm/index.asp?layout=articleXml&xmlId=271610188
----- $95 million to widen a highway in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac
counties in Wisconsin - "a widening that the state Department of
Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to 20 years and that
legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a commission charged
with developing major road projects."
http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/apr05/320584.asp
----- $200 million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with
Gravina Island. (Currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island --
"they reach Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride.")
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/11373717.htm
That’s sick.
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That's the Republicans.
Harry
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: 209 Republicans Vote to Slash Medicaid and Turn it Into Pork |
12 May 2005 11:47:13 AM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5gv481pu15qfjb058usigqslnuteghhiqt@4ax.com...
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
209 Members Vote to Slash Medicaid, Fund Pork
Two weeks ago, 214 House members voted to approve a federal budget
that slashes Medicaid by $10 billion.
Medicaid provides health services to America's most vulnerable -- poor
kids, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Yes, their lives will be tougher, the anti-Medicaid contigent said,
but the deficits! Entitlement spending must be scaled back! We have to
restore fiscal discipline!
Now, the Senate and House are wrangling over a new highway bill.
All but five of those representatives voted for the bill, which
includes:
-----$25 million for a "Bridge to Nowhere," connecting two South
Carolina towns with a combined population of 2,000.
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8902
----- $3 million for the National Packard Museum in Warren, Ohio,
where the Packard automobile was first produced; $1.5 million for the
Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.; and $400,000 for the Erie Canal
Museum in Syracuse, N.Y.
http://www.manufacturing.net/lm/index.asp?layout=articleXml&xmlId=271610188
----- $95 million to widen a highway in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac
counties in Wisconsin - "a widening that the state Department of
Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to 20 years and that
legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a commission charged
with developing major road projects."
http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/apr05/320584.asp
----- $200 million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with
Gravina Island. (Currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island --
"they reach Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride.")
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/11373717.htm
That's sick.
No, its criminal.
Larry
_____________________________________________________________
That's the Republicans.
Harry
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| User: "Jerry Okamura" |
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| Title: Re: 209 Republicans Vote to Slash Medicaid and Turn it Into Pork |
14 May 2005 03:25:41 PM |
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I think it is incorrect to say they are "slashing" Medicaid, unles you are
one of those Washington types who believes that you are cutting spending on
a program if you reduce the rate of increase in planned spending.
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:d6018h$5d1t$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5gv481pu15qfjb058usigqslnuteghhiqt@4ax.com...
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
209 Members Vote to Slash Medicaid, Fund Pork
Two weeks ago, 214 House members voted to approve a federal budget
that slashes Medicaid by $10 billion.
Medicaid provides health services to America's most vulnerable -- poor
kids, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Yes, their lives will be tougher, the anti-Medicaid contigent said,
but the deficits! Entitlement spending must be scaled back! We have to
restore fiscal discipline!
Now, the Senate and House are wrangling over a new highway bill.
All but five of those representatives voted for the bill, which
includes:
-----$25 million for a "Bridge to Nowhere," connecting two South
Carolina towns with a combined population of 2,000.
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8902
----- $3 million for the National Packard Museum in Warren, Ohio,
where the Packard automobile was first produced; $1.5 million for the
Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.; and $400,000 for the Erie Canal
Museum in Syracuse, N.Y.
http://www.manufacturing.net/lm/index.asp?layout=articleXml&xmlId=271610188
----- $95 million to widen a highway in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac
counties in Wisconsin - "a widening that the state Department of
Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to 20 years and that
legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a commission charged
with developing major road projects."
http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/apr05/320584.asp
----- $200 million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with
Gravina Island. (Currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island --
"they reach Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride.")
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/11373717.htm
That's sick.
No, its criminal.
Larry
_____________________________________________________________
That's the Republicans.
Harry
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: 209 Republicans Vote to Slash Medicaid and Turn it Into Pork |
14 May 2005 05:40:23 PM |
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"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:99the.266$h86.39@tornado.socal.rr.com...
I think it is incorrect to say they are "slashing" Medicaid, unles you are
one of those Washington types who believes that you are cutting spending
on
a program if you reduce the rate of increase in planned spending.
Cutting the number of people covered is slashing. Cutting the benefits to
those who remain is slasing. Letting people die because they cannot get
medical treatment is slashing.
larry
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:d6018h$5d1t$1@news3.infoave.net...
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5gv481pu15qfjb058usigqslnuteghhiqt@4ax.com...
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
209 Members Vote to Slash Medicaid, Fund Pork
Two weeks ago, 214 House members voted to approve a federal budget
that slashes Medicaid by $10 billion.
Medicaid provides health services to America's most vulnerable -- poor
kids, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Yes, their lives will be tougher, the anti-Medicaid contigent said,
but the deficits! Entitlement spending must be scaled back! We have to
restore fiscal discipline!
Now, the Senate and House are wrangling over a new highway bill.
All but five of those representatives voted for the bill, which
includes:
-----$25 million for a "Bridge to Nowhere," connecting two South
Carolina towns with a combined population of 2,000.
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8902
----- $3 million for the National Packard Museum in Warren, Ohio,
where the Packard automobile was first produced; $1.5 million for the
Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.; and $400,000 for the Erie Canal
Museum in Syracuse, N.Y.
http://www.manufacturing.net/lm/index.asp?layout=articleXml&xmlId=271610188
----- $95 million to widen a highway in Sheboygan and Fond du Lac
counties in Wisconsin - "a widening that the state Department of
Transportation says is unnecessary for 15 to 20 years and that
legislators approved after bypassing the DOT and a commission charged
with developing major road projects."
http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/apr05/320584.asp
----- $200 million for a one-mile span linking Ketchikan, Alaska, with
Gravina Island. (Currently, fifty people live on Gravina Island --
"they reach Ketchikan by taking a seven-minute ferry ride.")
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/11373717.htm
That's sick.
No, its criminal.
Larry
_____________________________________________________________
That's the Republicans.
Harry
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: 209 Republicans Vote to Slash Medicaid and Turn it Into Pork |
11 May 2005 05:37:52 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5gv481pu15qfjb058usigqslnuteghhiqt@4ax.com...
http://www.thinkprogress.org/
209 Members Vote to Slash Medicaid, Fund Pork
[typical examples of pork snipt]
That's sick.
_____________________________________________________________
That's the Republicans.
That's EVERYONE, Harry.
Harry
Ah, for the line-item *challenge* which probably is constitutional, but
neither party wants because it would no longer allow the President and
Congress to pretend that it's someone else's fault.
The line item challenge basically allows the President to ask Congress to
vote to keep one or more items in a bill using a public vote. If 50% + 1 of
each house of Congress votes to keep the item in, its still part of the bill
that the President must sign or veto in the normal way. If that specific
item fails to get 50%+1 of the vote, it's excluded from the bill. It makes
Congress (and the President) go on record supporting the worst pork by
either not challenging it (in the President's case) or by voting to keep it
in (in Congress's case).
It's a voluntary procedural thing that probably doesn't violate the
Constitution, doesn't give the President any more Constitutional powers than
before, and would prevent the worst pork from being slipped in without
comment, but its too dangerous to the Powers that Be.
Of course, it STILL requires that the President be willing to do HIS job and
challenge obvious pork, but at least it is something.
Notice that despite similar proposals being bandied about for many decades,
Congress and the President chose instead to go with the line-item veto,
which everyone had already agreed was unconstitutional. Unsurprisingly
enough, the line-item veto WAS ruled unconstitutional, and we were left with
exactly nothing, except a sense that nothing could be done (which was the
point of passing the unconstitutional bill in the first place: to make the
voting public think that nothing could be done to solve the problem).
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