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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 04 Mar 2006 11:17:59 PM
Object: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap
Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?
http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2299 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.

User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 06:46:16 AM
In News c1tk02l9t6aaik5gha1095ncffvljpd6tn@4ax.com,, Yang, AthD (h.c),
Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** at eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com, typed
this:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


Even the Vatican has made an official statement that "Intelligent Design" is
not science, and should not be taught in schools.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 07 Mar 2006 10:11:37 AM
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:17:59 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html

Kansas USD 383: 38 Nobel laureates
PvM posted Entry 2078 on March 1, 2006 02:55 AM.
Trackback URL: http://degas.fdisk.net/cgi-bin/mt/mt-tb.cgi/2073
HHMI HOWARD HUGHES MEDICAL INSTITUTE
January 27,2006
USD 383 Board of Education
Manhattan-Ogden Public School District
Robinson Education Center
203 1 Poyntz Avenue
Manhattan, KS 66502
Dear Board Members:
In September 2005 I and 38 other Nobel Laureates wrote the Kansas
State Board of Education in defense of science and education. We urged
the Board to reject proposed science standards that were to include
alternatives to evolution as explanations for the origin of species. I
was disappointed that the Board voted to adopt the proposed standards on
November 8,2005. As we stated then, evolution is not a theory, as the
term “theory of evolution” seems to indicate, but rather is based upon
compelling scientific evidence and is the foundation of much of modern
biology. The standards adopted by the Board redefined science in a way
that I believe will harm the education of students in Kansas as they try
to understand the world in which they live and compete with the world’s
workforce.
I applaud the current effort by the science faculty of the Kansas
State University not to allow science to be redefined, at least in
Manhattan. I urge you to support their resolution not to support the new
Kansas Science Standards. In supporting the KSU faculty you would show
great leadership and ensure that the students in your district will
continue to have a strong science education. You also would be joining
the large number of scientific and educational organizations that
support rigorous science education.
H. Robert Horvitz Ph.D.
Professor of Biology, MIT
2002 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
THE ELIE WIESEL FOUNDATION FOR HUMANITY NOBEL LAUREATES INITIATIVE
September 9,2005
TO: Kansas State Board of Education
We, Nobel Laureates, are writing in defense of science. We reject
efforts by the proponents of so-called “intelligent design” to
politicize scientific inquiry and urge the Kansas State Board of
Education to maintain Darwinian evolution as the sole curriculum and
science standard in the State of Kansas.
The United States has come a long way since John T. Scopes was
convicted for teaching the theory of evolution 80 years ago. We are,
therefore, troubled that Darwinism was described as “dangerous dogma” at
one of your hearings. We are also concerned by the Board’s
recommendation of August 8, 2005 to allow standards that include greater
criticism of evolution.
Logically derived from confirmable evidence, evolution is understood
to be the result of an unguided, unplanned process of random variation
and natural selection. As the foundation of modem biology, its
indispensable role has been further strengthened by the capacity to
study DNA. In contrast, intelligent design is fundamentally
unscientific; it cannot be tested as scientific theory because its
central conclusion is based on belief in the intervention of a
supernatural agent.
Differences exist between scientific and spiritual world views, but
there is no need to blur the distinction between the two. Nor is there
need for conflict between the theory of evolution and religious faith.
Science and faith are not mutually exclusive. Neither should feel
threatened by the other.
When it meets in October, 2005, we urge the Kansas State Board of
Education to vote against the latest draft of standards, which propose
including intelligent design in academic curriculum.
Sincerely,
Alexei A. Abrikosov
Nobel Prize, Physics (2003)
Richard Axel
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2004)
Gunter Blobel
Nobel Prize, Medicine (1999)
Linda B. Buck
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2004)
Aaron Ciechanover
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (2004)
Mairead Conigan Maguire
Nobel Prize, Peace (1976)
Robert F. Curl, Jr.
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1996)
John B. Fenn
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (2002)
Clive W.J. Granger
Nobel Prize, Economics (2003)
David J. Gross
Nobel Prize, Physics (2004)
Leland H. Hartwell
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2001)
Herbert A. Hauptman
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1985)
Dudley R. Herschbach
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1986)
Avram Hershko
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (2004)
Roald Hoffmann
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (198 1)
H. Robert Horvitz
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2002)
Eric R. Kandel
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2000)
Wolfgang Ketterle
Nobel Prize, Physics (2001)
Aaron Klug
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1982)
Sir Harold Kroto
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1996)
Anthony J. Leggett
Nobel Prize, Physics (2003)
Jean-Marie Lehn
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1987)
Ferid Murad
Nobel Prize, Medicine (1998)
Erwin Neher
Nobel Prize, Medicine (1991)
Sir Paul Nurse
Nobel Prize, Medicine (2001)
Stanley B. Prusiner
Nobel Prize, Medicine (1997)
Irwin Rose
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (2004)
K. Barry Sharpless
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (2001)
Horst L. St6rmer
Nobel Prize, Physics (1998)
Gerardus ‘t Hooft
Nobel Prize, Physics (1999)
Daniel C. Tsui
Nobel Prize, Physics (1998)
Harold E. Varmus
Nobel Prize, Medicine (1989)
John E. Walker
Nobel Prize, Chemistry (1997)
Carl E. Wieman
Nobel Prize, Physics (2001)
Elie Wiesel
Nobel Prize, Peace (1986)
Frank Wilczek
Nobel Prize, Physics (2004)
Jody Williams
Nobel Prize, Peace (1997)
Betty Williams
Nobel Prize, Peace (1976)
/end
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.

User: "NeoLibertarian"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 02:36:48 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html

You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind blows.
However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)
But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth. Nothing in the Bible which
contradicts the Origin of Species.
Perhaps, instead of teaching Creationism, or Intelligent Design, or
Origin of Species...maybe we should teach logic in schools.
--
NeoLibertarian
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 05:00:19 AM
On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1141547808.712031.136330@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth.

Are you willing to bet say, US$100,000 on supporting that assertion?
Nah, make it an even million.
This should be interesting!

Nothing in the Bible which
contradicts the Origin of Species.

Perhaps, instead of teaching Creationism, or Intelligent Design, or
Origin of Species...maybe we should teach logic in schools.

.
User: ""

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 09:18:30 AM
Michael Gray wrote:

On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1141547808.712031.136330@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth.


Are you willing to bet say, US$100,000 on supporting that assertion?
Nah, make it an even million.
This should be interesting!

Look, Princess, this is usenet.
I've already made the assertion; you wanna argue it then make a
counter-assertion.
It's how Logic works--but then we both know that you have no idea what
I'm referring to.
--
NeoLibertarian
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 06 Mar 2006 02:39:17 AM
On 5 Mar 2006 07:18:30 -0800,
wrote:
- Refer: <1141571910.077764.114970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian" <

>
wrote:
- Refer: <1141547808.712031.136330@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth.


Are you willing to bet say, US$100,000 on supporting that assertion?
Nah, make it an even million.
This should be interesting!


Look, Princess, this is usenet.

I've already made the assertion; you wanna argue it then make a
counter-assertion.

It's how Logic works--but then we both know that you have no idea what
I'm referring to.

Eh? Neither do you, it seems.
Or is it just that you wrote something that you cannot back up with
facts, and want to weasel out of admitting that you were wrong, by the
juvenile technique of pretending that you are your erudition exceeds
mine?
I proposed a wager, "Princess", not a friggin' logical see-saw.
You made a clear assertion:
"there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific conclusions
about the origins of the Earth"
I proposed that you "put your money where your (big) mouth is".
It's up to you to prove that your positive assertion is correct.
I can certainly show that it is false.
But I'm not going to show you my cards before the bet is signed and
sealed.
It's not a proposition from Wittgenstein.
Even a six year old could understand it.
You may want to get a six year old and have them explain it to you.
Is the wager on?
Or are you going to use weasel-words again, in order to avoid being
called to account?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 06 Mar 2006 10:31:46 PM
Michael Gray wrote:

I've already made the assertion; you wanna argue it then make a
counter-assertion.

It's how Logic works--but then we both know that you have no idea what
I'm referring to.


[snip]

You made a clear assertion:
"there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific conclusions
about the origins of the Earth"

[snip]
It's obtuse to offer a wager on usenet.
No one can prove a negative. I have no idea how you might object to the
presentation of Genesis (there's hundreds of obvious ways to object).
Even a literal reading of the Constitution, for instance, requires a
view to the purpose(s) of the writers--if one is to have a clear and
fundamental understanding.
A reading of the Bible is no different.
So let me qualify my former statement: If Steven Hawking got into a
time machine, and traveled 7,000 years into the past, and it was his
task to explain the origin of the universe (or multiverse) and
life...how would he do so so that he could be understood...by nearly
illiterate shepherds?
In such a way so that they might actually understand. Without a
grounding in physics. And without using up 100's of yards of expensive
papyrus. And without telling lies that would some day be revealed as
children's tales.
???
Often, when adults explain sex to children too young to understand
beyond the rudiments, they'll take the easy route and tell tall tales
about storks and cabbage patches.
So too with most traditional Cosmogonies. The Apache told stories about
The White Painted Woman, and the Coyote. The Greeks had Kaos and Kronos
and the failed abortion. The Norsemen had Muspell and the Frost Giant.
All, like the Cabbage Patch, point /away/ from the truth. They are mere
stories that have no relation to reality. A lie in substitution for the
complex truth.
Not so with Genesis. Which is one of the amazing aspects of it.
Man being made from the clay of the earth, for one thing. Being without
form and void at the beginning, for another. "Let there be light," is
very descriptive of current theory. That life progressed from simple to
more and more complex forms for yet another.
Amazing, especially in the light of contemporary Cosmogonies.
--
NeoLibertarian
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 07 Mar 2006 06:20:27 AM
On 6 Mar 2006 20:31:46 -0800,
wrote:
- Refer: <1141705906.084521.284250@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

I've already made the assertion; you wanna argue it then make a
counter-assertion.

It's how Logic works--but then we both know that you have no idea what
I'm referring to.


[snip]

You made a clear assertion:
"there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific conclusions
about the origins of the Earth"


[snip]

It's obtuse to offer a wager on usenet.

Do you even know what the word means?
It was exceptionally sharp of me to demand a wager, as it has
immediately revealed your assertion for what it is: An outright and
provable LIE.
My demand was the exact *opposite* of 'obtuse'.
Or perhaps now that you are in your prevarication stride, you may be
finding it somewhat difficult to change gait?

No one can prove a negative. I have no idea how you might object to the
presentation of Genesis (there's hundreds of obvious ways to object).

Even a literal reading of the Constitution, for instance, requires a
view to the purpose(s) of the writers--if one is to have a clear and
fundamental understanding.

A reading of the Bible is no different.

So let me qualify my former statement: If Steven Hawking got into a
time machine, and traveled 7,000 years into the past, and it was his
task to explain the origin of the universe (or multiverse) and
life...how would he do so so that he could be understood...by nearly
illiterate shepherds?

In such a way so that they might actually understand. Without a
grounding in physics. And without using up 100's of yards of expensive
papyrus. And without telling lies that would some day be revealed as
children's tales.

???

Often, when adults explain sex to children too young to understand
beyond the rudiments, they'll take the easy route and tell tall tales
about storks and cabbage patches.

So too with most traditional Cosmogonies. The Apache told stories about
The White Painted Woman, and the Coyote. The Greeks had Kaos and Kronos
and the failed abortion. The Norsemen had Muspell and the Frost Giant.

All, like the Cabbage Patch, point /away/ from the truth. They are mere
stories that have no relation to reality. A lie in substitution for the
complex truth.

Not so with Genesis. Which is one of the amazing aspects of it.

Man being made from the clay of the earth, for one thing. Being without
form and void at the beginning, for another. "Let there be light," is
very descriptive of current theory. That life progressed from simple to
more and more complex forms for yet another.

Amazing, especially in the light of contemporary Cosmogonies.

More pathetic weasel-words but, despite the voracious snippage, at
least they were prefixed by a frank admission that your assertion is
thoroughly unprovable.
But I *can* disprove it.
Easily.
So, why not be a man, and admit that you have no wish to take the
wager because you fear losing your money, and your dignity?
Or are you too much of a wimp to do that directly, without resorting
to distractions, hand-waving, and straw-men?
You will earn my respect if your next reply admits what we both know
to be the truth.
.





User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 09:34:10 AM
On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian" <cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth. Nothing in the Bible which
contradicts the Origin of Species.

Have you even bother to read the first chapter of Genesis?

Perhaps, instead of teaching Creationism, or Intelligent Design, or
Origin of Species...maybe we should teach logic in schools.

-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2299 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 09:10:31 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:u51m02hahtoe6oe5m46lfbiudgcei4q89d@4ax.com...

On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian"
<cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind
blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts
scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth. Nothing in the Bible
which
contradicts the Origin of Species.


Have you even bother to read the first chapter of Genesis?

That's equal to saying that the first comic book of 'Superman'
proves that Superman is real. And he is, because I read it in the
Superman Bible.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates: Creationism is Crap 05 Mar 2006 10:02:51 PM
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 03:10:31 GMT, "Bob" <fake_@fake.com> wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:u51m02hahtoe6oe5m46lfbiudgcei4q89d@4ax.com...

On 5 Mar 2006 00:36:48 -0800, "NeoLibertarian"
<cognac756@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:

Hmmm... how many Nobel Laureates can creationists Muster?

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2006/03/_kansas_usd_383.html


You don't need a Nobel Laureate to tell you which way the wind
blows.



However, there's nothing in the Bible which supports Creationism,
either. (Look it up)

But then, there's nothing in the Bible which contradicts
scientific
conclusions about the origins of the Earth. Nothing in the Bible
which
contradicts the Origin of Species.


Have you even bother to read the first chapter of Genesis?


That's equal to saying that the first comic book of 'Superman'
proves that Superman is real. And he is, because I read it in the
Superman Bible.

Since I'm not a Christian, are you saying that Genesis is as true as
Superman?
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2299 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.




User: ""

Title: Re: 38 Nobel Laureates ARE COMMUNISTS GIVEN AWARDS BY OTHERCOMMUNISTS 05 Mar 2006 10:00:07 PM
even an idiot should know by now that the so called "nobel prize' is a
communist scam. they usually only give their awards to other left
wingers who beleive the same garbage they do. once in a great while they
will give out an award to some one who deserves it to maintain the nobel
committies publicity.
the old theory of evolution was disproved by the new DNA and cloning
scientists who showed there is no genetic link between manking and
monkeys-apes.
in fact , mankind is closer to pigs and we do get some transplant parts
that are put into humans from pigs, but never from apes.....and yes they
tried transplanting ape parts for 50 years and the parts were always
totaly rejected by the human body.
" No, you don't have to give up your rights just because we are at war
"............

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