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16 Jan 2005 06:05:24 AM |
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded |
Typical Bush!
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts
Peter Beaumont, foreign affairs editor
Sunday January 16, 2005
The Observer
Two US defence contractors being sued over allegations of abuse at Abu
Ghraib prison have been awarded valuable new contracts by the Pentagon,
despite demands that they should be barred from any new government work.
Three employees of CACI International and Titan - working at Abu Ghraib
as civilian contractors - were separately accused of abusive behaviour.
The report on the Abu Ghraib scandal implicated three civilian
contractors in the abuses: Steven Stefanowicz from CACI International
and John Israel and Adel Nakhla from Titan.
Stefanowicz was charged with giving orders that 'equated to physical
abuse', Israel of lying under oath and Naklha of raping an Iraqi boy.
It was also alleged that CACI interrogators used dogs to scare
prisoners, placed detainees in unauthorised 'stress positions' and
encouraged soldiers to abuse prisoners. Titan employees, it has been
alleged, hit detainees and stood by while soldiers physically abused
prisoners.
Investigators also discovered systemic problems of management and
training - including the fact that a third of CACI International's staff
at Abu Ghraib had never received formal military interrogation training.
Despite demands by human rights groups in the US that the two companies
be barred from further contracts in Iraq - where CACI alone employed
almost half of all interrogators and analysts at Abu Ghraib - CACI
International has been awarded a $16 million renewal of its contract.
Titan, meanwhile, has been awarded a new contract worth $164m.
Despite the allegations in the internal US army report, the two
companies have described the claims against them 'baseless' and as 'a
malicious recitation of false statements and intentional distortions'.
The disclosure of the new contracts comes as Specialist Charles Graner -
described as the ringleader in the group of soldiers leading the abuse
of Iraqi prisoners - was found guilty on Friday after a court martial
rejected his claim that he was only following orders.
Some of the most graphic evidence against Graner came from Hussein
Mutar, an Iraqi who arrived at Abu Ghraib accused of car theft.
He testified how, after jumping on him, Graner and other guards ordered
him to strip, masturbate and simulate oral sex, and then photographed
him and led him back to a cell, which they had soaked with water, where
he had to sleep naked. Graner is now awaiting a sentence of up to 15
years in jail.
The jury of 10 soldiers deliberated for five hours before convicting the
reser-vist of assault, conspiracy, maltreatment of detainees, committing
indecent acts and dereliction of duty, as well as one battery count.
However the controversy over abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib and
Guantanamo Bay is likely to be reignited later this month with the
publication of The Torture Papers: The Legal Road to Abu Ghraib by
Cambridge University Press, the first compendium of the so called
'torture memos' of the Bush administration.
Compiled from material already in the public domain and other material
acquired under the US Freedom of Information Act, it documents the
chilling progress in the Bush administration's legal advice that allowed
it to redefine the meaning of torture so much that it felt able to use
interrogation techniques that amounted to the most serious physical abuse.
In one memo, Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee advises the legal
counsel to the president, Alberto Gonza les, that 'physical pain
amounting to torture must be equivalent in intensity to the pain
accompanying serious physical injury such as organ failure, impairment
of bodily function or even death'.
He adds that actions by interrogators 'may be cruel, inhuman or
degrading, but still not produce the pain and suffering of requisite
intensity [to be torture]'.
In a new development, the New York Times revealed last week that
Congressional leaders have scrapped fresh legal measures that would have
imposed strict new restrictions on the use of extreme interrogation
techniques by US intelligence interrogators.
The proposal - which emerged in the fall-out of the Abu Ghraib scandal
and complaints over the treatment of internees at Guantanamo Bay - had
been approved by the Senate by almost a unanimous vote.
It would have explicitly ensured that US intelligence officers were
covered by the same prohibitions on the use of torture, and required the
CIA and Pentagon to report to Congress on the techniques that they were
using.
The issue of the CIA's treat ment of detainees first arose after agency
officials sought legal guidance on how far its employees and contractors
could go in interrogating suspects and whether the law barred the CIA
from using extreme methods, including feigned drowning, in the
interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, the first of the al-Qaeda leaders
captured by the US. He was apprehended in Pakistan in early 2002.
It was in response to this reply that Bybee gave his ruling defining the
scope of torture, which was later swiftly revoked when it became public.
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16 Jan 2005 08:29:31 AM |
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PagCal wrote:
Typical Bush!
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts...
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders from
their military superiors. Have you never heard of the chain of
command? Why do you think contractors should be punished for what a
government employee did?
Are you stupid?
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17 Jan 2005 06:35:28 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Typical Bush!
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts...
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders from
their military superiors. Have you never heard of the chain of
command? Why do you think contractors should be punished for what a
government employee did?
Are you stupid?
Try that 'legal' argument when you get captured by the terrorists, and
try to plead the Genevia Conventions!
Ha, you are the stupid one.
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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18 Jan 2005 05:36:12 PM |
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PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Typical Bush!
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts...
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American
military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders
from
their military superiors. Have you never heard of the chain of
command? Why do you think contractors should be punished for what
a
government employee did?
Are you stupid?
Try that 'legal' argument when you get captured by the terrorists,
and
try to plead the Genevia Conventions!
Ha, you are the stupid one.
You haven't been paying attention. The terrorists are sawing the heads
off of their prisoners without trial and without legal arguments what
so ever. You are out of touch with reality.
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| User: "PagCal" |
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20 Jan 2005 03:14:09 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Typical Bush!
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Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts...
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American
military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders
from
their military superiors. Have you never heard of the chain of
command? Why do you think contractors should be punished for what
a
government employee did?
Are you stupid?
Try that 'legal' argument when you get captured by the terrorists,
and
try to plead the Genevia Conventions!
Ha, you are the stupid one.
You haven't been paying attention. The terrorists are sawing the heads
off of their prisoners without trial and without legal arguments what
so ever. You are out of touch with reality.
As a response to our torture!
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| User: "* US *" |
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20 Jan 2005 07:18:22 AM |
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On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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21 Jan 2005 07:27:01 AM |
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* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down in New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of America.
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| User: "PagCal" |
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21 Jan 2005 06:17:23 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down in New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
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21 Jan 2005 08:29:28 PM |
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PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid? Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's. Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world wide
law and order.
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23 Jan 2005 09:16:15 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's.
Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world
wide
law and order.
Where were you this last century when the UN retaliated against
Iraq for all of those things?
The British burned the White House. Should we invade England?
--
FF
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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23 Jan 2005 09:39:45 AM |
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wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's.
Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world
wide
law and order.
Where were you this last century when the UN retaliated against
Iraq for all of those things?
UN Security Council resolution 1441 plainly said that the sanctions
were not working and that resolution 678 was still being violated y
Saddam. Can't you read? Are you stupid?
The British burned the White House...
I heard that America dumped some of that British tea into the harbor in
Boston. If John Kerry had been alive then he surely would have objected
to the Boston tea party too!
...Should we invade England?
Do you feel that England is threatening the security of America today?
The UN, The Congress, the President and 44 other nations of the world
agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. They put it in writing.
Are you not paying attention?
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| User: "" |
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24 Jan 2005 06:56:04 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
fredfighter@spamcop.net wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions.
...
Where were you this last century when the UN retaliated against
Iraq for all of those things?
UN Security Council resolution 1441 plainly said that the sanctions
were not working and that resolution 678 was still being violated y
Saddam. Can't you read? Are you stupid?
Did 1441 and 678 say that Iraq was still occupying Kuwait, bombing
Israel, plotting to kill a former US President or building nuclear
weapons?
The British burned the White House...
I heard that America dumped some of that British tea...
Maybe England should invade the US.
...Should we invade England?
Do you feel that England is threatening the security of America
today?
No, nor was Iraq in 2002.
The UN, The Congress, the President and 44 other nations of the world
agreed that Saddam was a threat to the world. They put it in writing.
Are you not paying attention?
Since I was paying attention I know they were wrong.
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FF
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| User: "Defendario" |
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21 Jan 2005 09:12:10 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid?
WTF? Given the tone and character of *your* postings, Marky? Pleeese!
Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
You mean the invasion has been rationalized. It remains illegal and
unconsionable. Abu Ghraib is but one unintended consequence.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's. Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world wide
law and order.
You sound like you are explaining a comic book plot. Now that evil (you
fill in the blank) is in jail, Megalopolis rejoices! WooHoo!
Does your Mom know you are posting on usenet, Marky?
;D
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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22 Jan 2005 09:05:55 AM |
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Defendario wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down
in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid?
WTF? Given the tone and character of *your* postings, Marky?
Pleeese!
Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
You mean the invasion has been rationalized. It remains illegal and
unconsionable. Abu Ghraib is but one unintended consequence.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's.
Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world
wide
law and order.
You sound like you are explaining a comic book plot. Now that evil
(you
fill in the blank) is in jail, Megalopolis rejoices! WooHoo!
Yes, I was having fun with that. Saddam is in jail and President Bush
is back in the White House. The work is complete. Now is the time to
have fun.
Does your Mom know you are posting on usenet, Marky?
Yes, She does. Thank you for asking. I recently set her up with one of
the finest computers on the market. The Gateway 3200. It's a 2.5 GHz
computer on sale for only $399 - an outstanding value. She likes it
much better than the old 133 MHz machine she had. All the software came
already installed on the hard drive and the cables are color coded so
you know where to plug them in without having to be a techno-nerd. Now
she is asking me about satellite TV.
http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/proddetails.asp?system_id=3200S
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| User: "Defendario" |
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22 Jan 2005 02:12:39 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
Defendario wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down
in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid?
WTF? Given the tone and character of *your* postings, Marky?
Pleeese!
Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
You mean the invasion has been rationalized. It remains illegal and
unconsionable. Abu Ghraib is but one unintended consequence.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's.
Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world
wide
law and order.
You sound like you are explaining a comic book plot. Now that evil
(you
fill in the blank) is in jail, Megalopolis rejoices! WooHoo!
Yes, I was having fun with that. Saddam is in jail and President Bush
is back in the White House. The work is complete. Now is the time to
have fun.
So you feel that torturing and murdering innocent Iraqis is fun?
Satan will have plenty of fun with you too, when the time comes...
;D
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22 Jan 2005 05:56:44 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid? Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's. Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world wide
law and order.
Iraq invaded Kuwait, and was then invaded itself - 10 years ago! Not today.
But, as a result, sanctions and the No Fly zone were setup to contain
Sadam and prevent WMD development.
These actions were successful in their goals and scope.
There was no reason to invade the second time.
As for violating UN Resolutions, big deal. The US and Israel do it all
the time. It's in no way a reason for commiting US troops.
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22 Jan 2005 08:52:54 AM |
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PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
PagCal wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
* wrote:
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
My upper limit was reached when the towers blew up and fell down
in
New
York City. Thanks to President Bush the world has been put on
notice
that its a very very bad idea to attack the United States of
America.
Then, what is Bush doing in Iraq? They had nothing to do with 9/11.
Are you stupid? Its been explained on this group a hundred times.
Iraq invaded Kuwait and bombed Israel and tried to kill a former
United
States President, tried to build nuclear weapons and violated
multiple
UN security council resolutions. Those things are big no-no's.
Saddam
was a very bad boy and now he is in prison. Three cheers for world
wide
law and order.
Iraq invaded Kuwait, and was then invaded itself - 10 years ago! Not
today.
You are inventing a time limit where none exists. The hilarious irony
of your complaint is that you pointy headed liberals were the ones who
first demanded years of negotiations with Saddam before action was
taken and then finally when action was taken you completely turn around
in your thinking and begin yelling and screaming that TOO MUCH TIME was
taken and thus the original atrocities shouldn't count.
But, as a result, sanctions and the No Fly zone were setup to contain
Sadam and prevent WMD development.
These actions were successful in their goals and scope.
Resolution 1441 says they were not successful.
There was no reason to invade the second time.
15 voting nations of the UN Security Council, over two thirds of the
United States Congress, the President, and 45 nations of the coalition
disagree with you. Unfortunately for you,(very fortunate for the rest
of us) your opinion matters for nothing. You don't count.
As for violating UN Resolutions, big deal. The US and Israel do it
all
the time. It's in no way a reason for commiting US troops.
You are the first liberal on this group claiming that the UN is
irrelevant. You must be off your medication.
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21 Jan 2005 08:59:46 AM |
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On 21 Jan 2005 05:27:01 -0800, "Mark "Hate-Filled" Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
My upper limit was reached ...
Yet you contradict yourself there, and have not
stopped wanting to see innocents get murdered.
... the towers blew up and fell down in New
York City...
No one of the thousands you've supported slaying
in Iraq had anything whatsoever to do with that.
Apparently, there's no upper limit to the innnocents
you want to kill.
You're the terrorist.
...Thanks to President Bush ...
Without his 'efforts' the WTC would still be standing.
... its [sic] a very very bad idea to attack the United States of America.
Yet your idol Cheney's getting away with it.
See Ruppert's "Crossing the Rubicon".
On 18 Jan 2005 15:36:12 -0800, "Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
...out of touch with reality.
What's your upper limit on innocents you'll want to see
tortured and killed for the lies and greed of the corrupt?
Do you even have one?
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21 Jan 2005 08:49:20 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American
military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders
from
their military superiors.
Oh really? I didn't know that Mark. You mean Rusmsfeld cannot tell his
military staff what to do? Gee, you learn something new each day.
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22 Jan 2005 09:15:29 AM |
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WillieJ wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee. American
military
personnel don't take orders from civilians. They only take orders
from
their military superiors.
Oh really? I didn't know that Mark.
That's because your mouth is running all the time. Try shutting that
mouth of yours and listening sometime.
You mean Rusmsfeld cannot tell his
military staff what to do? Gee, you learn something new each day.
The President through his secretary of defense sets policy. They don't
get involved with the day to day operation of the rules and procedures.
Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that Rumsfeld
refuses to comment on any specific disciplinary action being taken
within the Department of Defense because he is in the chain of command
and doesn't want to disturb the process from running properly.
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22 Jan 2005 12:06:03 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
That's because your mouth is running all the time. Try shutting that
mouth of yours and listening sometime.>
Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that Rumsfeld
refuses to comment on any specific disciplinary action being taken
within the Department of Defense because he is in the chain of
command
and doesn't want to disturb the process from running properly.
Geez! Man, you are touchy! Got a chip on your shoulder or sumtin?
What'd I do?
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23 Jan 2005 08:21:41 AM |
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PagCal wrote:
Typical Bush!
Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded
As prison ringleader awaits sentence, defence contractors win
multi-million Pentagon contracts...
WillieJ wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
The prison ringleader was a US Government employee.
American military personnel don't take orders from
civilians. They only take orders from their military
superiors. Have you never heard of the chain of
command? Why do you think contractors should be
punished for what a government employee did?
Oh really? I didn't know that Mark. You mean Rusmsfeld
cannot tell his military staff what to do? Gee, you
learn something new each day.
WillieJ wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
That's because your mouth is running all the time. Try shutting
that
mouth of yours and listening sometime.
Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that Rumsfeld
refuses to comment on any specific disciplinary action being taken
within the Department of Defense because he is in the chain of
command
and doesn't want to disturb the process from running properly.
Geez! Man, you are touchy! Got a chip on your shoulder or sumtin?
What'd I do?
You were pretending to be stupid above in your thinking that military
personnel take orders from civilian contractors. The more scary
scenario is that you weren't pretending. Close your mouth until you get
a brain.
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| User: "Defendario" |
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| Title: Re: Abu Ghraib abuse firms are rewarded |
22 Jan 2005 02:14:56 PM |
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WillieJ wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
That's because your mouth is running all the time. Try shutting that
mouth of yours and listening sometime.>
Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that Rumsfeld
refuses to comment on any specific disciplinary action being taken
within the Department of Defense because he is in the chain of
command
and doesn't want to disturb the process from running properly.
Geez! Man, you are touchy! Got a chip on your shoulder or sumtin?
What'd I do?
Marky just went off his meds, I think. He's been posting maniacally.
;D
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