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Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
"If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I
wouldn't care," says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson.
"But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own
rules."
Scoffed a former Gore adviser in response: "I think what you're seeing
here is the last gasp of the global warming skeptics. They've completely
lost the debate on the issue so now they're just attacking their most
effective opponent."
Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the
Center's figures, taken as they were from public records. But she
pointed out that both Al and Tipper Gore work out of their home and she
argued that "the bottom line is that every family has a different carbon
footprint. And what Vice President Gore has asked is for families to
calculate that footprint and take steps to reduce and offset it."
A carbon footprint is a calculation of the CO2 fossil fuel emissions
each person is responsible for, either directly because of his or her
transportation and energy consumption or indirectly because of the
manufacture and eventual breakdown of products he or she uses. (You can
calculate your own carbon footprint on the website
http://www.carbonfootprint.com/)
The vice president has done that, Kreider argues, and the family tries
to offset that carbon footprint by purchasing their power through the
local Green Power Switch program electricity generated through
renewable resources such as solar, wind, and methane gas, which create
less waste and pollution. "In addition, they are in the midst of
installing solar panels on their home, which will enable them to use
less power," Kreider added. "They also use compact fluorescent bulbs and
other energy efficiency measures and then they purchase offsets for
their carbon emissions to bring their carbon footprint down to zero."
These efforts did little to impress Johnson. "I appreciate the solar
panels," he said, "but he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a
heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's
switching out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he
advocates."
The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the
Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using
18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200
kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed
the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for
the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the
pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric
bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005.
The press release from Johnson's group, an obscure conservative think
tank founded by Johnson in 2004 when he was 24, was given splashy
attention on the highly-trafficked Drudge Report Monday evening, and
former Gore aides saw it as part of a piece, along with an Fox News
Channel investigation from earlier this month of Gore's use of private
planes in 2000. Last year, a seemingly amateurish Youtube video mocking
the "An Inconvenient Truth" turned out to have been produced by slick
Republican public relations firm called DCI, which just happens to have
oil giant Exxon as a client.
"Considering that he spends an overwhelming majority of his time
advocating on behalf of and trying to affect change on this issue, it's
not surprising that people who have a vested interest in protecting the
status quo would go after him," said the former Gore aide.
Kreider says she's confident that the Gores' utility bills will
decrease. "They bought an older home and they're in the process of
upgrading the home," she said. "Unfortunately that means an increase in
energy use in order to have an overall decrease in energy use down the
road."
Gore is not the only environmentalist associated with "An Inconvenient
Truth" who has come under fire for personal habits -- and not all the
criticism has come from the Right.
Writing in The Atlantic Monthly in 2004, liberal writer Eric Alterman
criticized producer Laurie David for her use of private Gulfstream jets.
David, he wrote "reviles the owners of SUVs as terrorist enablers, yet
gives herself a pass when it comes to chartering one of the most
wasteful uses of fossil-based fuels imaginable." New Republic writer
Gregg Easterbrook followed up, computing that "one cross-country flight
in a Gulfstream is the same, in terms of Persian-Gulf dependence and
greenhouse-gas emissions, as if she drove a Hummer for an entire year."
In an interview in 2006, David told ABC News that she was limiting her
use of private planes and was flying commercial far more frequently.
Copyright Š 2007 ABC News Internet Ventures
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659
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| User: "Catfish" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
28 Feb 2007 01:19:45 PM |
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"JimmyDŽ" <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote in message
news:OK-dnbbtEOz8D3jYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
The Tennessee Center For Policy Research is not an obscure conservative
group. It is a FAKE conservative group specifically set up to send out
inflammatory press releases like the one about Al Gore's electricity bills.
Why the Tennessee Center For Policy Research is entitled to tax-exempt
status is beyond me."
More on the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php?page_id=35
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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01 Mar 2007 01:14:21 AM |
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"JimmyDŽ" <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote in message
news:OK-dnbbtEOz8D3jYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
Another inconvenient truth is that Johnson is apparently lying.
The utilities company says they didn't even recieve a request from Johnson
let alone divulge any figures on Gore's bills.
In any case Gore is carbon neutral, as is his film production.
Are YOU?
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?JimmyD=AE?=" |
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01 Mar 2007 07:55:36 AM |
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Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"JimmyDŽ" <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote in message
news:OK-dnbbtEOz8D3jYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
Another inconvenient truth is that Johnson is apparently lying.
The utilities company says they didn't even recieve a request from Johnson
let alone divulge any figures on Gore's bills.
In any case Gore is carbon neutral, as is his film production.
Are YOU?
***** no, I make as much Co2 as possible. I'm all for global warming, and
at this point it doesn't matter if Gore is or isn't. The important thing
Al Gore has been labeled, just like "I invented the Internet". Now he
cant run for pres. with any credibility. I love the politics of personal
destruction when liberals are the the victims.
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
01 Mar 2007 08:32:02 AM |
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"JimmyDŽ" <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote in message
news:KdydneI0rNHHRnvYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com...
Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
"JimmyDŽ" <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote in message
news:OK-dnbbtEOz8D3jYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
Another inconvenient truth is that Johnson is apparently lying.
The utilities company says they didn't even recieve a request from
Johnson let alone divulge any figures on Gore's bills.
In any case Gore is carbon neutral, as is his film production.
Are YOU?
***** no, I make as much Co2 as possible. I'm all for global warming, and
at this point it doesn't matter if Gore is or isn't. The important thing
Al Gore has been labeled, just like "I invented the Internet". Now he cant
run for pres. with any credibility.
I don't seem to recall *any* US president in the last 50 years having any
credibility.
Al Gore's electric bill is a matter of sublime irrelevance in the scale of
things.
If the rightards want a diversionary topic they should pick on something
that someone gives a ***** about - failing that get back to the things that
matter - such as the continuing kidnap and torture that is being done in
your name.
I love the politics of personal destruction when liberals are the the
victims.
The only people that are suffering any form of 'destruction' in this total
non-issue are the rightards who think this petty personal attack on the
world's favourite messenger is going to make the slightest difference to the
coming thouroughly deserved rout of the Republican Party.
The world is laughing at your desperation - quite literaly in the case of
all the Australians following this 'story' at my house tonight - and they
are a fairly mixed bunch.
And most don't believe it anyway - I'll wait 'til the dust settles and find
out which republicans were lying their arses off *this* time.
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| User: "richard schumacher" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
01 Mar 2007 08:48:05 AM |
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***** no, I make as much Co2 as possible. I'm all for global warming, and
Thanks for sharing. Be sure to write again when you can use your real
name.
Now that the rightard AGW deniers have run out of anything substantial
to whine about and are reduced to picking over Al Gore's utility bills,
visit http://realclimate.org to see the facts of global warming
discussed by scientists.
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| User: "t1gercat" |
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28 Feb 2007 09:01:42 AM |
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On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyD=AE <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place, what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market, (4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
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| User: "=?windows-1252?Q?JimmyD=AE?=" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
28 Feb 2007 09:22:52 AM |
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t1gercat wrote:
On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyDŽ <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place,
Whats enegry??? Anyway global warming is a myth that will cost us
trillions if gone unchecked, global warming is a liberal redistribution
scheme.
what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market,
We have plenty of oil here but liberals won't let us drill
(4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
The air is cleaner now than it was in the 70's
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
Lets build more nuclear power plants then.
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| User: "=?windows-1252?Q?JimmyD=AE?=" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
28 Feb 2007 09:27:10 AM |
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JimmyDŽ wrote:
t1gercat wrote:
On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyDŽ <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place,
Whats enegry??? Anyway global warming is a myth that will cost us
trillions if gone unchecked, global warming is a liberal
redistribution of wealth
scheme.
what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market,
We have plenty of oil here but liberals won't let us drill
(4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
The air is cleaner now than it was in the 70's
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
Lets build more nuclear power plants then.
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| User: "The PretZel" |
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28 Feb 2007 10:50:59 AM |
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On 2007-02-28 07:27:10 -0800, JimmyDŽ <Don'tBlameMe@IVotedRepublican.com> said:
JimmyD¨ wrote:
t1gercat wrote:
On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyD¨ <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place,
Whats enegry??? Anyway global warming is a myth that will cost us
trillions if gone unchecked, global warming is a liberal
redistribution of wealth
scheme.
what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market,
We have plenty of oil here but liberals won't let us drill
(4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
The air is cleaner now than it was in the 70's
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
Lets build more nuclear power plants then.
Hey JimmBobJimmaYD!!! YUcH, YuCHH!!!!
Ha-aY There!
Did ya know that Gore spends twice as much as anybody else 'CUZ he
demands that his energy/electricity comes from green sources? That's
what the utility cUmp'ny sAyD! Now y'all haVe a gOod life now, y'HeAr?
Stupid fucking Rightard.
Republicans honoring our troops.
http://rekulmala.com/blogimages/dishonor.jpg
--
"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their
own government. Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their
notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "t1gercat" |
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28 Feb 2007 05:10:56 PM |
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On Feb 28, 10:27 am, JimmyD=AE <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com>
wrote:
JimmyD=AE wrote:
t1gercatwrote:
On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyD=AE <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrot=
e:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced =
in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt baski=
ng
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank =
is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place,
Whats enegry??? Anyway global warming is a myth that will cost us
trillions if gone unchecked, global warming is a liberal
redistribution of wealth
scheme.
what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market,
We have plenty of oil here but liberals won't let us drill
(4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
The air is cleaner now than it was in the 70's
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
Good point
Lets build more nuclear power plants then.
I don't have a problem with Nuclear power. It might just be the
ultimate answer. Some -- both on the Left and the Right -- do. We do
have common ground, after all. Good Luck.
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| User: "=?windows-1252?Q?JimmyD=AE?=" |
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| Title: Re: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill |
28 Feb 2007 07:32:55 PM |
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t1gercat wrote:
On Feb 28, 10:27 am, JimmyDŽ <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com>
wrote:
JimmyDŽ wrote:
t1gercatwrote:
On Feb 28, 9:32 am, JimmyDŽ <Don'tBlam...@IVotedRepublican.com> wrote:
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill
ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) - Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in
his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking
in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he
inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is
trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's
environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee
Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric
bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house
devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the
national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
You Rightards are so predictable. You have no facts, no science to
refute Global Warming theory, so you revert to name calling. If Gore
is a hypocrite, so what? Will calling him that make Global Warming go
away? If Gore uses too much enegry, flys in private jets, and burns
dollar bills in his fire place,
Whats enegry??? Anyway global warming is a myth that will cost us
trillions if gone unchecked, global warming is a liberal
redistribution of wealth
scheme.
what does that have to do with the
fact that (1) the United States is dependent on foreign oil, (2) most
foreign oil is produced by countries and cultures that loath us, (3)
the price for virtually all oil is set by a cartel run by people who
loath us, not by the free market,
We have plenty of oil here but liberals won't let us drill
(4) burning fossil fuels fouls the
air and water, destroys natural areas, and generally creates an
unhealthful environment.
The air is cleaner now than it was in the 70's
If what you want is dirty air and water, continued dependence on
foreign oil, and destruction of the enviornment, then fine, say so. If
you want reduced dependence on foreign oil, cleaner air and water, and
a generally more healthful enviornment, then why not join with the
other folks who do? You may not like the rest of their politics, but
you can damn well agree that foreign oil dependence is a matter not
only of national defense but national survival, that clean air and
water are good for everyone. What the hell is the matter with you
people?
Good point
Lets build more nuclear power plants then.
I don't have a problem with Nuclear power. It might just be the
ultimate answer. Some -- both on the Left and the Right -- do. We do
have common ground, after all. Good Luck.
We need to built them safe and under ground
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