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"~TRUTH 666~" |
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28 Dec 2003 01:46:20 PM |
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Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq |
Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq
Michael Martinez
Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0312260174dec26,1,6775433.story?coll=chi-news-hed
Quote: "Since the Iraq conflict began, 20 GIs have taken their own
lives in the theater. Military and outside experts, alarmed by the
high number, hope to find out why. The Army is concerned about the
deaths. Outside experts have said the rate is alarmingly high compared
with the military's average suicide rate."
Troop suicides raise red flag
Since the Iraq conflict began, 20 GIs have taken their own lives in
the theater. Military and outside experts, alarmed by the high number,
hope to find out why.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1442
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| Title: Re: Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq |
28 Dec 2003 01:57:34 PM |
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Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq
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There's currently a problem with using this argument in any debate.
I am informed [rightly or wrongly] that the US military suicide rate in Iraq,
is the same as the civilian suicide rate in the USA.
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Michael Martinez
Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0312260174dec26,1,6775433.story?coll=chi-news-hed
Quote: "Since the Iraq conflict began, 20 GIs have taken their own
lives in the theater. Military and outside experts, alarmed by the
high number, hope to find out why. The Army is concerned about the
deaths. Outside experts have said the rate is alarmingly high compared
with the military's average suicide rate."
Troop suicides raise red flag
Since the Iraq conflict began, 20 GIs have taken their own lives in
the theater. Military and outside experts, alarmed by the high number,
hope to find out why.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1442
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| User: "Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah" |
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| Title: Re: Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq |
28 Dec 2003 11:05:52 PM |
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I am informed [rightly or wrongly] that the US military suicide rate in
Iraq,
is the same as the civilian suicide rate in the USA.
Both are increasing.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq |
29 Dec 2003 01:11:58 AM |
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"Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah" <ahn-fyuh-wi-dizayah@thegreatslashtubitch.org> wrote
in message news:QCOHb.1179$DC4.419@fe2.texas.rr.com...
I am informed [rightly or wrongly] that the US military suicide rate in
Iraq,
is the same as the civilian suicide rate in the USA.
Both are increasing.
The official suicide rate in the military includes ONLY those deaths that
can't possibly be explained away any other way. Example:
Slashing your wrists in a shower, or jumping off the top floor of the
visiting officers quarters screaming "I'm an F-111!" at the top of your
lungs, will be counted as a suicide.
Disabling all safety interlocks, flying low over the North Sea, flipping the
F-111 upside-down and hitting eject, will be counted as "accidental."
A huge portion of peacetime deaths in the military are suicides or due
exceedingly self-destructive carelessness (not quite "suicide" but
almost -is drinking yourself into unconsciousness and drowning in your own
vomit, "suicide," for instance?). The fact that so many deaths in a warzone
are "non-combat related," and that there are so many of them as compared to
normal, suggests that there is a REALLY serious problem.
Its not 10 vs 20 per 100,000, however, that has people worried. 20 per
100,000 is not that many for a stressful environment. Its the 100's of
vehicular accidents, and drunken marines sticking their hands into the cages
of tigers, etc., that is ringing the alarm bells.
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| User: "DDB" |
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| Title: Re: Alarming Increase in Suicides Among U.S. Soldiers Fighting in Iraq |
29 Dec 2003 09:15:09 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2tQHb.10045$lo3.8016@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah" <ahn-fyuh-wi-dizayah@thegreatslashtubitch.org> wrote
in message news:QCOHb.1179$DC4.419@fe2.texas.rr.com...
I am informed [rightly or wrongly] that the US military suicide rate
in
Iraq,
is the same as the civilian suicide rate in the USA.
Both are increasing.
The official suicide rate in the military includes ONLY those deaths that
can't possibly be explained away any other way. Example:
Slashing your wrists in a shower, or jumping off the top floor of the
visiting officers quarters screaming "I'm an F-111!" at the top of your
lungs, will be counted as a suicide.
Disabling all safety interlocks, flying low over the North Sea, flipping
the
F-111 upside-down and hitting eject, will be counted as "accidental."
A huge portion of peacetime deaths in the military are suicides or due
exceedingly self-destructive carelessness (not quite "suicide" but
almost -is drinking yourself into unconsciousness and drowning in your own
vomit, "suicide," for instance?). The fact that so many deaths in a
warzone
are "non-combat related," and that there are so many of them as compared
to
normal, suggests that there is a REALLY serious problem.
Its not 10 vs 20 per 100,000, however, that has people worried. 20 per
100,000 is not that many for a stressful environment. Its the 100's of
vehicular accidents, and drunken marines sticking their hands into the
cages
of tigers, etc., that is ringing the alarm bells.
You certainly are not stupid enough to believe that the US government is
allowing alcohol to be distributed to the troops are you? That would be
against our host countries religion and it has been my experience,after 22
years in the military that the US does not offend their host countries.
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