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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Tuttles Almanac"
Date: 09 Jun 2006 08:29:17 AM
Object: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment
Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul
SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.
"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."
Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.
He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.
Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.
In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."
Highest Ranking Protest to Date
Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.
Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.
"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________
.

User: "Paul Revere"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 08:46:52 AM
A true Patriot. When Bush is impeached and a real
american is president this man will be pardoned.
peace
Paul Revere.
"Tuttle's Almanac" <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov>
wrote in message
news:128ittd3dkr4l01@corp.supernews.com...
: Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
:
: * Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul
:
: SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
: ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
: go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.
:
: "It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
: United States Army to speak out against grave
injustices."
: said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker
unit,
: 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
: legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
: who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
: as an officer of the armed forces that the war in
Iraq
: is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of
American law."
:
: Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he
twice
: tried to resign his Army commission as an officer
because
: of his opposition to the Iraq War.
:
: He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
: to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.
:
: Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
: the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
: weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
: he has become convinced the Bush administration
: "intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to
go to war.
:
: In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
: "I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
: by this administration. It is the duty, the
obligation of
: every soldier, and specifically the officers,
: to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
: order - including the order to go to war."
:
: Highest Ranking Protest to Date
:
: Watada is the most senior officer to go public
: and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.
:
: Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
: which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
: said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
: because he does not oppose all war - just this one.
:
: "The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
: Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
: not only a terrible moral injustice but a
: contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
: Watada said.
: _________________________________________
:
:
:
.

User: "trippy"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 03:43:11 PM
In article <128ittd3dkr4l01@corp.supernews.com>, Tuttle's Almanac took
the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________

He'll probably get totally hosed so thank him for making this stand.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
.

User: "imatoiletplunger"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:04:21 AM
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


....now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....
.
User: "Paul Revere"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 02:30:03 PM
"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in
message : ...now THIS is the type of military the libs
love ... i can see it all
: now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals
singing folk
: songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout
slogans, swayin'
: back and forth with arms locked together in
brotherhood .... i'll bet
: y'all are just wettin yur panties with
anticipation....
Sorry rightarded shitstain. You just described your
church / RNC meetings. Only traitors like you sit
around with arms locked in Christhood, celebrating the
murder of your not so christian brothers in other parts
of the world. To bad there is no god to give you a 72
year old virgin for being such a homo and not fucking
around with women.
peace
Paul Revere.
.

User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:24:47 AM
"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....

Ah, the depth of republican thought.
How many innocent babies did your dollars burn to death today?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 07:46:12 PM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....


Ah, the depth of republican thought.

How many innocent babies did your dollars burn to death today?

Just the ones that (your bud- past tense) Zarqawi used as human shields...
LN
.


User: "Bothrops Wife"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:27:11 AM
"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....

Say what you want. At least we're not toilet plungers like you. As a
friendly gesture, I give you standing permission to lick my toilet whenever
you want. Everybody's good for something, eh?
.
User: "imatoiletplunger"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 11:19:48 AM
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:27:11 -0400, "Bothrops Wife"
<snakeggs@hesmyzero.net> wrote:


"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....


Say what you want. At least we're not toilet plungers like you. As a
friendly gesture, I give you standing permission to lick my toilet whenever
you want. Everybody's good for something, eh?


....uh! ... not a toilet licker... a toilet PLUNGER, a toilet plunger
pulls nasty things outta the shitter .... sorta like i did with you in
this thread...
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 12:31:59 PM
"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:kn7j82534s5taiarmgvn7tpseq4pqhsh2o@4ax.com...

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:27:11 -0400, "Bothrops Wife"
<snakeggs@hesmyzero.net> wrote:


"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....


Say what you want. At least we're not toilet plungers like you. As a
friendly gesture, I give you standing permission to lick my toilet
whenever
you want. Everybody's good for something, eh?


...uh! ... not a toilet licker... a toilet PLUNGER, a toilet plunger
pulls nasty things outta the shitter .... sorta like i did with you in
this thread...

k00k on, k00kboy
.
User: "imatoiletplunger"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 12:58:41 PM
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:31:59 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@NOSPUMMYitg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:kn7j82534s5taiarmgvn7tpseq4pqhsh2o@4ax.com...

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 11:27:11 -0400, "Bothrops Wife"
<snakeggs@hesmyzero.net> wrote:


"imatoiletplunger" <criiminal@large.newsat11> wrote in message
news:1t2j82hns1jp0tv7krj7e3hbmde60vs743@4ax.com...


...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....


Say what you want. At least we're not toilet plungers like you. As a
friendly gesture, I give you standing permission to lick my toilet
whenever
you want. Everybody's good for something, eh?


...uh! ... not a toilet licker... a toilet PLUNGER, a toilet plunger
pulls nasty things outta the shitter .... sorta like i did with you in
this thread...


k00k on, k00kboy

....i try ....
.




User: "Ozzie"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:37:19 AM
imatoiletplunger wrote:


On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

...now THIS is the type of military the libs love ... i can see it all
now... hundreds of candleholding Birkenstock liberals singing folk
songs outside his jail cell... chanting old wornout slogans, swayin'
back and forth with arms locked together in brotherhood .... i'll bet
y'all are just wettin yur panties with anticipation....

"Lance" as in, Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas.
Pike, a medieval spear carried by frontline infantry.
Piker, slang for tramp, vagrant, a cautious or timid gambler
who makes only small bets; a person who takes no chances;
a ‘poor sport’ ... a shirker." ...expendable.
.


User: "Bill Smith"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 04:09:47 PM
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


There have been wholesale slaughters of innocents in every war ever
fought in history, it's just one of it's many horrors. There's no
justification for it, and there's no policy to carry it out, but it
happens just the same. This man is extremely naive if he doesn't
realize that. You don't get to choose which wars you fight. He should
have been a conscientious objector, instead he's a hypocrite.
Bill Smith
.
User: "trippy"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 05:13:04 PM
In article <u1oj82h5hgdqf3qmm41chg3kcvq90sslpu@4ax.com>, Bill Smith
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


There have been wholesale slaughters of innocents in every war ever
fought in history, it's just one of it's many horrors. There's no
justification for it, and there's no policy to carry it out, but it
happens just the same. This man is extremely naive if he doesn't
realize that. You don't get to choose which wars you fight. He should
have been a conscientious objector, instead he's a hypocrite.

Bill Smith

He refused concientous objector status, since the only war he refuses
to fight in is Iraq. He's said he has no problems going into
afghanistan.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
.
User: "JCM"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 05:57:54 PM
Just out of curiosity, was it just Hitler (post-mortem) tried at the
Nuremburg trials, or did it also include those who "followed orders"?
.
User: "trippy"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 07:10:38 PM
In article <1149893873.981929.66220@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, JCM
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

Just out of curiosity, was it just Hitler (post-mortem) tried at the
Nuremburg trials, or did it also include those who "followed orders"?


Hitler committed suicide.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
.
User: "JCM"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 09:52:50 PM
I know- not my point
trippy wrote:

In article <1149893873.981929.66220@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, JCM
took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

Just out of curiosity, was it just Hitler (post-mortem) tried at the
Nuremburg trials, or did it also include those who "followed orders"?



Hitler committed suicide.

--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

NP: "Damn" -- Matchbox 20

"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"

.





User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:58:30 AM
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 — An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

Don't drop the soap.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________


--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "SHb"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 03:07:04 PM
""""Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq."""
Most senior officer? He is a 1st Lt. there is only one rank lower in the
commissioned officers corp.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:5k6j8212bbltgtmhi8hnqfk0apbltolp4k@4ax.com...

On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 13:29:17 -0000, Tuttle's Almanac
<Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

Don't drop the soap.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army to speak out against grave injustices."
said 1st Lt. Ehren Watada, a member of the Stryker unit,
3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. "My moral and
legal obligation is to the Constitution and not those
who would issue unlawful orders. It is my conclusion
as an officer of the armed forces that the war in Iraq
is not only morally wrong, but a horrible breach of American law."

Watada is a 28-year-old Hawaii native who said he twice
tried to resign his Army commission as an officer because
of his opposition to the Iraq War.

He has not previously served in Iraq but is scheduled
to deploy to the city of Mosul with his unit.

Watada joined the Army in 2003 and said he supported
the war at the outset because he believed Iraq had
weapons of mass destruction. Since then, he said
he has become convinced the Bush administration
"intentionally manipulated intelligence" in order to go to war.

In an interview with The Seattle Times he said:
"I feel that we have been lied to and betrayed
by this administration. It is the duty, the obligation of
every soldier, and specifically the officers,
to evaluate the legality, the truth behind every
order - including the order to go to war."

Highest Ranking Protest to Date

Watada is the most senior officer to go public
and challenge his orders to go to Iraq.

Others have filed for conscientious objector status,
which is an objection to all war. Watada, however,
said he is not filing as a conscientious objector
because he does not oppose all war - just this one.

"The wholesale slaughter and mistreatment of the
Iraqi people with only limited accountability is
not only a terrible moral injustice but a
contradiction to the Army's own law of land warfare,"
Watada said.
_________________________________________



--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde

"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance

"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.

"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce

"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant

Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net

.

User: ""

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 11:05:42 AM
This a great argument to show what Republicans are.
The Republican - "YOU TRAITOR!!!!!! Just because 80% of America and
100% of the world (that is not Israel) agrees with you!!!!! You think
you have an argument!!!"
Yes, that sums it up. Since no one is LEFT ON THE PLANET thinks there
is a reason to be in Iraq - BESIDES - Israelis and their loyalists,
there is no debate that the war was just.
No one is left to call it just.
Want to prove me wrong,
Bring in people who cant stand Israel who want your war.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
Yes, I know what you will say. Not only do want war for Israel,
You also think, 'It is an Unamerican activity, not to HAND OVER OUR
TROOPS AS MERCENARIES to a foreign government."
You go be loyal to foreign governments. Leave America to the loyal
Americans, like this guy. He has the PEOPLE and the WORLD on his side.
You speak for ISrael.
.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 12:27:34 PM
On 9 Jun 2006 09:05:42 -0700,
wrote:

This a great argument to show what Republicans are.

The Republican - "YOU TRAITOR!!!!!! Just because 80% of America and
100% of the world (that is not Israel) agrees with you!!!!! You think
you have an argument!!!"


Yes, that sums it up. Since no one is LEFT ON THE PLANET thinks there
is a reason to be in Iraq - BESIDES - Israelis and their loyalists,
there is no debate that the war was just.

No one is left to call it just.

Want to prove me wrong,

Bring in people who cant stand Israel who want your war.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Yes, I know what you will say. Not only do want war for Israel,
You also think, 'It is an Unamerican activity, not to HAND OVER OUR
TROOPS AS MERCENARIES to a foreign government."

You go be loyal to foreign governments. Leave America to the loyal
Americans, like this guy. He has the PEOPLE and the WORLD on his side.
You speak for ISrael.

The Captain recommends Soap on a Rope.
--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.
User: "mark"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 06:45:54 PM
In article <robj8299uu6a0g2p4u1tehlo85q8fj441c@4ax.com>, Captain
Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:

The Captain recommends Soap on a Rope.

Is that from personal experience?
--
mark
markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com
-- 
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, 
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B.
Anthony, 1896
.
User: "Captain Compassion"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 10:55:58 PM
On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 16:45:54 -0700, mark <markjs1@*nospam*yahoo.com>
wrote:

In article <robj8299uu6a0g2p4u1tehlo85q8fj441c@4ax.com>, Captain
Compassion <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:

The Captain recommends Soap on a Rope.



Is that from personal experience?

The only time that the Captain was in Jail they didn't have showers.
--
"Science is the record of dead religions." -- Oscar Wilde
"There are no absolute certainties in this universe. A man must try to
whip order into a yelping pack of probabilities, and uniform success is
impossible." -- Jack Vance
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
.





User: "George Washington Hayduke"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 09:37:50 PM
Tuttle's Almanac <Harry.Tuttle@brazil.plumbing.gov> wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq

He's an American hero. He wouldn't slaughter and rape Iraqi children.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

---
"On behalf of [myself] the Jewish community, AIPAC, and the voters of the
Fourth District, Congresswoman McCollum's support for terrorists will not
be tolerated." -- Baby killing Israeli terrorist Amy Rotenberg
.

User: "Grendel"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 11:08:21 AM
Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..

"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)
I guess he lied.
Article 87 of the UCMJ:
"Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design
misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is
required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a
court-martial may direct."
Elements.
(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a
ship, aircraft or unit;
(2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship,
aircraft or unit;
(3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit;
and
(4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.
Court marial his *****. Sentence him to hard labor making little rocks
out of big ones.
Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."
.
User: "Angry Dave"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 02:42:04 PM
Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..

Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.

I guess he lied.

More like lied to.


Article 87 of the UCMJ:

"Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design
misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is
required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a
court-martial may direct."

Elements.

(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a
ship, aircraft or unit;

(2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship,
aircraft or unit;

(3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit;
and

(4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.


Court marial his *****. Sentence him to hard labor making little rocks
out of big ones.


Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."

.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 02:55:18 PM
"Angry Dave" <ddbarden@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1149882124.782588.155520@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..


Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.

How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?


I guess he lied.


More like lied to.


Article 87 of the UCMJ:

"Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design
misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is
required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a
court-martial may direct."

Elements.

(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a
ship, aircraft or unit;

(2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship,
aircraft or unit;

(3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit;
and

(4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.


Court marial his *****. Sentence him to hard labor making little rocks
out of big ones.


Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."


.
User: "Mark Donovan"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 09 Jun 2006 07:17:29 PM
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..


Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.


How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?

Well The Constitution states that only the US Congress can declare war. The
October 2002 resolution passed by Congress is often cited as proof that
President Bush had congressional authority to attack Iraq, but nothing could
be further from the truth. The resolution declared war against no nation but
simply stated that the president "has authority under the Constitution to
take action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism
against the United States.." The resolution by Congress could not, in fact,
grant the president authority to declare war because the Congress cannot
alter the express language of the Constitution. Indeed, only a
constitutional amendment can overrule Article 1, Section 8.
Serving in an aggressive and clearly unconstitutional war, is a violation of
the Constitution, which, unfortunately, today is being ignored and violated
more frequently than obeyed.
MD



I guess he lied.


More like lied to.


Article 87 of the UCMJ:

"Any person subject to this chapter who through neglect or design
misses the movement of a ship, aircraft, or unit with which he is
required in the course of duty to move shall be punished as a
court-martial may direct."

Elements.

(1) That the accused was required in the course of duty to move with a
ship, aircraft or unit;

(2) That the accused knew of the prospective movement of the ship,
aircraft or unit;

(3) That the accused missed the movement of the ship, aircraft or unit;
and

(4) That the accused missed the movement through design or neglect.


Court marial his *****. Sentence him to hard labor making little rocks
out of big ones.


Yol Bolsun,
Grendel.

"Never underestimate the stupidity of liberals."




.
User: "Bob"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 10 Jun 2006 10:48:48 AM
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Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..


Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.


How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?


Well The Constitution states that only the US Congress can declare war. The
October 2002 resolution passed by Congress is often cited as proof that
President Bush had congressional authority to attack Iraq, but nothing could
be further from the truth. The resolution declared war against no nation but
simply stated that the president "has authority under the Constitution to take
action in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against
the United States.." The resolution by Congress could not, in fact, grant the
president authority to declare war because the Congress cannot alter the
express language of the Constitution. Indeed, only a constitutional amendment
can overrule Article 1, Section 8.

Serving in an aggressive and clearly unconstitutional war, is a violation of
the Constitution, which, unfortunately, today is being ignored and violated
more frequently than obeyed.

Specifically, what part of the Constitution do
you believe has been violated?
.
User: "SHb"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 10 Jun 2006 11:29:44 AM
"""Specifically, what part of the Constitution do
you believe has been violated?""""
Remember the Dem's idea of the Constitution is a living breathing,
flexible, modifiable piece of paper
that is mallable to fit any lib whim at anyy moment. ~If you don't agree
just change it~ Rules!
Chubby Checker had nothing on these Twisters.
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Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..


Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.


How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?


Well The Constitution states that only the US Congress can declare war.
The October 2002 resolution passed by Congress is often cited as proof
that President Bush had congressional authority to attack Iraq, but
nothing could be further from the truth. The resolution declared war
against no nation but simply stated that the president "has authority
under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts
of international terrorism against the United States.." The resolution by
Congress could not, in fact, grant the president authority to declare war
because the Congress cannot alter the express language of the
Constitution. Indeed, only a constitutional amendment can overrule
Article 1, Section 8.

Serving in an aggressive and clearly unconstitutional war, is a violation
of the Constitution, which, unfortunately, today is being ignored and
violated more frequently than obeyed.


Specifically, what part of the Constitution do
you believe has been violated?

.

User: "Mark Donovan"

Title: Re: Army Officer choses Jail over Iraq Deployment 10 Jun 2006 02:24:58 PM
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Grendel wrote:

Tuttle's Almanac wrote:

Military Officer Would Chose Jail Over Iraq
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2049982&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

* Hawaii Native Protests Upcoming Deployment to Mosul

SEATTLE, June 7, 2007 - An Army officer due to
ship out to Iraq later this month would rather
go to jail than serve and complete the assignment.

"It is my duty as a commissioned officer of the
United States Army..


Now now.... you skipped the most important part-
"-- do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND
DOMESTIC, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same."


"..to faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am
about to enter."
(from Army Officer Appointment Acceptance and Oath of Office)

His first duty is to the Constitution.


How does serving in Iraq violate the Constitution?


Well The Constitution states that only the US Congress can declare war.
The October 2002 resolution passed by Congress is often cited as proof
that President Bush had congressional authority to attack Iraq, but
nothing could be further from the truth. The resolution declared war
against no nation but simply stated that the president "has authority
under the Constitution to take action in order to deter and prevent acts
of international terrorism against the United States.." The resolution by
Congress could not, in fact, grant the president authority to declare war
because the Congress cannot alter the express language of the
Constitution. Indeed, only a constitutional amendment can overrule
Article 1, Section 8.

Serving in an aggressive and clearly unconstitutional war, is a violation
of the Constitution, which, unfortunately, today is being ignored and
violated more frequently than obeyed.


Specifically, what part of the Constitution do
you believe has been violated?

Once again, Article 1, Section 8, but I know your brain just can't register
it. I'll bet you will soon be asking this again.
Mark
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