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"GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla" |
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10 Oct 2004 04:09:00 PM |
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AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
Fred Burks, an interpreter for both the Clinton and Bush administrations,
confirms that Bush is prompted when meeting with world leaders.
When combined with the fact that Bush is known to have used a prompter when
meeting with Chirac (see the entry labled 'Earpiece' on that page), this really
does lend weight to the idea that Bush was wired at the debates.
http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/10/10/163725/community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
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"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas -- that says, fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3/tdntb-bushwack2.mp3
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| User: "Dharmananda" |
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| Title: Re: Over-generalized Nonsesne |
10 Oct 2004 06:28:28 PM |
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Bush may or may not have been wired during the debats with Kerry, but the
issue has nothing to do with his meetings with world leaders speaking other
languages, where an interpreter was involved. It would have been
considered wierd if he did *not* use an earpiece in those contexts.
Would you stop frothing, please? It's counter-productive, and beneath the
level of discourse that we need to get anything done with this issue.
GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla wrote:
Fred Burks, an interpreter for both the Clinton and Bush administrations,
confirms that Bush is prompted when meeting with world leaders.
When combined with the fact that Bush is known to have used a prompter
when
meeting with Chirac (see the entry labled 'Earpiece' on that page), this
really does lend weight to the idea that Bush was wired at the debates.
http://community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/10/10/163725/community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
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Triratnam sharanam gaccami
Dharmananda
http://mysite.verizon.net/res6zeam/american-buddhist/news.html
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| User: "GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla" |
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| Title: Re: Over-generalized Nonsesne |
10 Oct 2004 07:46:13 PM |
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Dharmananda wrote:
Bush may or may not have been wired during the debats with Kerry, but the
issue has nothing to do with his meetings with world leaders speaking other
languages, where an interpreter was involved. It would have been
considered wierd if he did *not* use an earpiece in those contexts.
Would you stop frothing, please? It's counter-productive, and beneath the
level of discourse that we need to get anything done with this issue.
But it's fun. Keep watching.
GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla wrote:
Fred Burks, an interpreter for both the Clinton and Bush administrations,
confirms that Bush is prompted when meeting with world leaders.
When combined with the fact that Bush is known to have used a prompter
when
meeting with Chirac (see the entry labled 'Earpiece' on that page), this
really does lend weight to the idea that Bush was wired at the debates.
http://community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/10/10/163725/community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas -- that says, fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3/tdntb-bushwack2.mp3
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| User: "jet" |
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| Title: Re: Over-generalized Nonsesne |
10 Oct 2004 09:08:14 PM |
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In article <pJkad.368392$Fg5.331735@attbi_s53>, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla <patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dharmananda wrote:
Bush may or may not have been wired during the debats with Kerry, but the
issue has nothing to do with his meetings with world leaders speaking other
languages, where an interpreter was involved. It would have been
considered wierd if he did *not* use an earpiece in those contexts.
Would you stop frothing, please? It's counter-productive, and beneath the
level of discourse that we need to get anything done with this issue.
But it's fun. Keep watching.
I think Georgie wears Laura's underwear for luck and it was his bra
fastener showing.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 05:09:29 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas -- that says, fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
Could you please fix your tag line to get rid of all the Ahats in it.
It detracts from your credibility.
"There'sA anA oldA sayingA inA TennesseeA --A IA knowA it'sA inA TexasA --A thatA says,A fool
Bush is not on your side!
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Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 07:43:17 PM |
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Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas --Â
that says, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled
again."
Could you please fix your tag line to get rid of all the Ahats in it.
It detracts from your credibility.
Nope. It is utf-8, a valid characterset. Toss out your Forte, because it has a
bug.
"There'sAÂ anAÂ oldAÂ sayingAÂ inAÂ TennesseeAÂ --AÂ IAÂ knowAÂ it'sAÂ inAÂ TexasAÂ --A
thatAÂ says,AÂ fool
Bush is not on your side!
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas -- that says, fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3/tdntb-bushwack2.mp3
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 05:04:22 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
Fred Burks, an interpreter for both the Clinton and Bush administrations,
confirms that Bush is prompted when meeting with world leaders.
This in itself shows Cheney has no confidence in Bush.
If even Cheney does not trust him, why should you?
Bush is just an animatronic shell, like the plant in "Little shop of
Horrors" or "the Alien" or "Ronald Reagan" TM
"Rome... at its most decadent, had never thought of hiring an actor to
go through the motions of being an emperor while the Praetorian Guard
ruled."
~ Gore Vidal
Bush is not on your side!
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 05:06:32 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
EXCLUSIVE! Bush's Interpreter Says Bush Uses Earpiece
Sunday October 10, 2004 1:46 AM
[Editor's Note: I received a copy of the e-mail below on Friday, and
requested (and received) permission to publish it. I found independent
confirmation that Fred Burks worked as an interpreter for George W.
Bush comes in an article in the Los Angeles Times in January 2004.]
From: Fred Burks
As a deep insider myself, I have independent confirmation of President
Bush using an earpiece to assist him in communicating intelligently
with others. I've worked as a contract Indonesian language interpreter
with the US State Department for over 18 years. I first started
interpreting at the presidential level in 1995 at a White House
meeting for President Clinton and President Suharto of Indonesia with
their top advisors. You can read a short story of the many small
miracles that led me to interpret for presidents at
www.gcforall.org/inspirations (scroll down to Issue #1, where it is
the second story).
On September 19, 2001, just eight days after 9/11, I was in the White
House interpreting for an important 90-minute meeting between
President Bush and President Megawati Soekarnoputri of Indonesia. This
meeting made national news on all the TV networks, as at the time, the
administration wanted to show they were supportive of our Muslim
friends. Indonesia has the largest population of Muslims in the world.
Over 80% of Indonesia's 220 million people are Muslim.
This was my first time interpreting for Bush. The previous day, I had
been given the 22 points Bush would be covering in this meeting in
order to familiarize myself with the topics to be discussed. About
half of these "talking points" had to do with terrorism, which was to
be fully expected given what had just happened. The other points,
however, involved many details of Indonesian politics which even I
would have had a tough time addressing, let alone Bush, who I assumed
had limited knowledge of Indonesia.
During those 90 minutes, President Bush not only covered all the
points, he covered them quite well and without any notes! Not once
during the entire meeting did he look at any notes or receive cues
from anyone present in discussing the Indonesian political situation
with depth and intelligence. I was astonished! "How could this be?" I
asked myself. It was a huge surprise. I concluded either that Bush was
much more intelligent than we had been led to believe, or that somehow
someone was feeding answers to him through a hidden earpiece. At the
time, I really didn't know which of these was true.
Having worked directly with President Bush twice since then, and
having additionally talked with many of my fellow interpreters who
have worked directly with him, I am now certain that he could not have
had that much knowledge of Indonesia. He doesn't even read the daily
newspaper to keep up with what's being reported in the press. I am
convinced that he must have been using some sort of earpiece through
which someone was telling him what to say.
Having interpreted for media guests touring large TV studios, I've
seen how the news anchors all have hidden earphones, and how the news
producers are feeding them all sorts of information even as they talk
live on TV. "20 seconds to a commercial," "15 seconds of filler here,"
"wrap it up quick " etc... This is standard practice for live TV
shows. The "let me finish" comment made by Bush in the debate was only
confirmation of something I already knew.
I will also mention that a number of months ago a colleague of mine
was in the room with President Bush and his advisors when Bush threw a
full blown temper tantrum filled with foul language and all. He ranted
and raved at his advisors for a number of minutes to the shock and
dismay of my colleague who was standing unseen in the refreshment
corner. When he finally finished blowing off steam, Bush turned
towards the refreshment table only to see my colleague standing there.
He instantly switched into his "good ol' boy" friendly demeanor and
said, "Hey, how ya doin' buddy?"
Politics is not a pretty business. I have many stories from my
experiences interpreting at international conferences and secret
meetings attended only our leaders and their interpreters. I have seen
a number of our world's leaders (not just Americans) acting like high
school boys playing power games. But for now, I just wanted to confirm
my own strong belief that President Bush is often fed what he is
supposed to say at important events. Though he can truly be a friendly
guy, I have not found him to be particularly bright or competent. To
be fair, I must admit that I tend to be of a more liberal persuasion,
but I thought you all would appreciate knowing some of what goes on
behind the scenes. You take care and have a great day!
With best wishes, Fred
PS Though I am still on contract with the State Department, I greatly
reduced my work with them two years ago. I saw how important it was
for me to devote my time to getting the word out through the websites
I manage, and through email lists like this. I have done only three
weeks' worth of paid work this year. Thankfully, I am able to draw on
money I had set aside for retirement to support me in focusing full
time on this important work. I want to invite you to look carefully at
what you can do in your life to help build a better world in these
important times. You might start by sharing this email with your
friends and colleagues.
Explore these empowering websites coordinated by Fred:
www.momentoflove.org - Every person in the world has a heart
www.WantToKnow.info - Revealing major cover-ups & working together for
a better world
www.gcforall.org - Building a Global Community for All
www.weboflove.org - Strengthening the Web of Love that interconnects
us all
Together, we are building a better world based on love and cooperation
Bush is not on your side!
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 05:07:46 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/10/10/163725/community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
That url does not work. Could you please correct it and also provide a
tinyurl.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/tinyurl.html
Bush is not on your side!
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL Bush Confirmed to Use EarWiz!!!! |
10 Oct 2004 07:45:40 PM |
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Roedy Green wrote:
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:09:00 GMT, GW *AWOL* Chimpzilla
<patriot-for-cash@hotmail.com> wrote or quoted :
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/10/10/163725/community.democrats.com/forums
discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727
That url does not work. Could you please correct it and also provide a
tinyurl.
http://tinyurl.com/47fsc
There ya go!
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/tinyurl.html
Bush is not on your side!
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas -- that says, fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
http://www.diymedia.net/audio/mp3/tdntb-bushwack2.mp3
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