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12 Oct 2006 10:40:31 AM |
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Best republican Lie Yet |
To link me to George Bush is like linking me to an Oscar. That's
ridiculous."
-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,
10/11/06
VERSUS
"Our president, George W. Bush, has worked hard to protect and preserve the
American dream for all of us. And that's why I say, send him back to
Washington for four more years. Four more years!"
-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), address to the Republican National
Convention, 8/31/04
http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=206456487&url_num=10&url=http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-10-12T024735Z_01_N11424242_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-LENO-DC.XML&WTmodLoc=EntNewsTV_C1_%5BFeed%5D-3
Do republicans ever even consider the truth?
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12 Oct 2006 01:20:17 PM |
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In article <PltXg.22040$Ij.14441@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
"Bush is God?" <PissedOff@the white house.org> wrote:
To link me to George Bush is like linking me to an Oscar. That's
ridiculous."
-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,
10/11/06
VERSUS
"Our president, George W. Bush, has worked hard to protect and preserve the
American dream for all of us. And that's why I say, send him back to
Washington for four more years. Four more years!"
-- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA), address to the Republican National
Convention, 8/31/04
http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=206456487&url_num=10&url=ht
tp://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=televisionNews&storyID=2006-
10-12T024735Z_01_N11424242_RTRIDST_0_TELEVISION-LENO-DC.XML&WTmodLoc=EntNewsTV
_C1_%5BFeed%5D-3
Do republicans ever even consider the truth?
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" - Matthew
7:15-16
Great timing for this latest book by Kuo :-) What Foley did not crack
and splinter in Bush's base, this book hopefully will.
Trident
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Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith
By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 at 4:59 PM - PDT
According to Kuo, Karl Rove's office referred to evangelical leaders as
'the nuts.'
Tonight on Countdown-David Kuo, who was the number two guy at the
Office of Faith Based initiatives in the White House writes a scathing
account of how the administration used Christians to grab and maintain
power. This story validates Tucker Carlson's admission that: "The deep
truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for
the evangelicals who put their party in power."
[Transcript]
When President Bush touched on Iraq at his news conference this
morning, he may have been revealing more than he knew.
[video] BUSH: The stakes couldn't be any higher, as I said earlier, in
the world in which we live. There are extreme elements that use
religion to achieve objectives.
He was talking about religious extremists in Iraq. But an hour later,
Mr. Bush posed with officials from the Southern Baptist Convention.
It is described as the largest, most influential evangelical
denomination in a new book by the former number-two man in Bush's
Office of Faith-Based Initiatives.
The book, "Tempting Faith," not out until Monday, but in our third
story tonight, a Countdown exclusive we've obtained a copy and it is
devastating work.
Author David Kuo's conservative Christian credentials are impeccable;
his resume sprinkled with names like Bennett and Ashcroft. Now, as the
Foley cover-up has many evangelical Christians wondering whether the
G.O.P. is really in sync with their values, "Tempting Faith" provides
the answer: No way.
Kuo, citing one example after another of a White House that repeatedly
uses evangelical Christians for their votes - while consistently
giving them nothing in return;
A White House which routinely speaks of the nation's most famous
evangelical leaders behind their backs, with contempt and derision.
Furthermore, Faith-Based Initiatives were not only stiffed on one
public promise after another by Mr. Bush - the office itself was
eventually forced to answer a higher calling: Electing Republican
politicians.
Kuo's bottom line: the Bush White House is playing millions of American
Christians for suckers.
According to Kuo, Karl Rove's office referred to evangelical leaders as
'the nuts.'
Kuo says, 'National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in
person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as
'ridiculous,' 'out of control,' and just plain 'goofy.' "
So how does the Bush White House keep 'the nuts' turning out at the
polls?
One way, regular conference calls with groups led by Pat Robertson,
James Dobson, Ted Haggard, and radio hosts like Michael Reagan.
Kuo says, "Participants were asked to talk to their people about
whatever issue was pending. Advice was solicited [but] that advice
rarely went much further than the conference call. [T]he true purpose
of these calls was to keep prominent social conservatives and their
groups or audiences happy."
They do get some things from the Bush White House, like the National
Day of Prayer, "another one of the eye-rolling Christian events,"
Kuo says.
And "passes to be in the crowd greeting the president when he arrived
on Air Force One or tickets for a speech he was giving in their
hometown. Little trinkets like cufflinks or pens or pads of paper were
passed out like business cards. Christian leaders could give them to
their congregations or donors or friends to show just how influential
they were. Making politically active Christians personally happy meant
having to worry far less about the Christian political agenda."
When cufflinks weren't enough, the White House played the Jesus card,
reminding Christian leaders that, quote, "they knew the president's
faith" and begging for patience.
And the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives?
According to Kuo, "White House staff didn't want to have anything to
do with the Faith-Based Initiative because they didn't understand it
any more than did congressional Republicans . They didn't lie awake at
night trying to kill it. They simply didn 't care."
Kuo relates one faith-based promise after another - billions of
dollars in funding and tax credits - that goes unfulfilled year after
promise after year.
He recounts one specific funding exchange with Mr. Bush:
Bush: "Eight billion in new dollars?"
Kuo: "No sir. Eight billion in existing dollars for which groups will
find it technically easier to apply. But faith-based groups have been
getting that money for years."
Bush: "Eight billion. That's what we'll tell them. Eight billion in
new funds for faith-based groups."
Why bother lying?
Kuo says, "The faith-based initiative had the potential to successfully
evangelize more voters than any other."
According to Kuo, the Office spent much of its time on two missions:
One-Trying-and failing-to prove Mr. Bush's claim of regulatory
bias against religious charities hiring who they wanted. Quote:
"Finding these examples became a huge priority. ...[but] religious
groups had encountered very few instances of actual problems with their
hiring practices." "It really wasn't that bad at all."
Another mission: lobbying the President to make good on his own
promises.
How?
Kuo says they tried to prove their political value by turning the
once-bipartisan faith-based initiatives into a political operation.
It wasn't just discrimination against non-Christian charities. (One
official who rated grant applications told Kuo, " when I saw one of
those non-Christian groups in the set I was reviewing, I just stopped
looking at them and gave them a zero...a lot of us did. ")
The Office was also, literally, a taxpayer-funded part of the
Republican campaign machinery.
In 2002, Kuo says the office decided to "hold roundtable events for
threatened incumbents with faith and community leaders ... using the
aura of our White House power to get a diverse group of faith and
community leaders to a 'nonpartisan' event discussing how best to help
poor people in their area."
White House Political Affairs director Ken Mehlman "loved the idea and
gave us our marching orders. There were twenty targets." Including
Saxby Chambliss in Georgia and John Shimkus in Illinois.
Mehlman devised a cover-up for the operation. He told Kuo, "It can't
come from the campaigns. That would make it look too political. It
needs to come from the congressional offices. We'll take care of that
by having our guys call the office to request the visit."
Kuo explains, "this approach inoculated us against accusations that we
were using religion and religious leaders to promote specific
candidates."
Those roundtables were a hit. Republicans won 19 of those 20 races. 76
percent of religious conservatives voted for Chambliss over decorated
war hero Max Cleland.
And Bush's 2004 victory in Ohio? That "was at least partially tied to
the conferences [they] had launched [there] two years before."
By that time, Kuo had left the White House, concluding that "it was
mocking the millions of faithful Christians who had put their trust and
hope in the President and his administration. Bush knew his so-called
compassion agenda was languishing and had no problem with that."
If you would question Mr. Kuo's credibility, you should know his former
boss also quit the White House complaining in his one public interview
that politics drove absolutely everything in the Bush administration.
There is more, much more revealed in Tempting Faith... how Jack Kemp
was tricked into sounding like a religious conservative without even
knowing it; Jerry Falwell's astonishing behavior at the 9/11 Day of
Remembrance and considerably more as our Countdown exclusive of
Tempting Faith continues here tomorrow night.
you can foley some of the children some of the time.
time to vote some off the island.
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| User: "Foxtrot" |
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12 Oct 2006 11:38:33 PM |
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maginot line <georgew.k@humboldt1.com> wrote:
Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith
By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 at 4:59 PM - PDT
[video] BUSH: The stakes couldn't be any higher, as I said earlier, in
the world in which we live. There are extreme elements that use
religion to achieve objectives.
He was talking about religious extremists in Iraq. But an hour later,
Mr. Bush posed with officials from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Thanks for the post, Maggot Loon. I *do* hope you libs attack
Christians by comparing them with Islamoterrorists.
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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12 Oct 2006 11:53:13 PM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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maginot line <georgew.k@humboldt1.com> wrote:
Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith
By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 at 4:59 PM - PDT
[video] BUSH: The stakes couldn't be any higher, as I said earlier, in
the world in which we live. There are extreme elements that use
religion to achieve objectives.
He was talking about religious extremists in Iraq. But an hour later,
Mr. Bush posed with officials from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Thanks for the post, Maggot Loon. I *do* hope you libs attack
Christians by comparing them with Islamoterrorists.
The beauty part is that we don't have to. David Kuo, the second director of
the Office of Faith Based Initiatives is coming out with his new tell all
"Tempting Faith" this coming Tuesday and revealing how the Bush
administration showed nothing but contempt for the Evangelical Community.
Richard Viguerie has already labeled the Bush Regime as anti-evangelical and
religious political activists are deserting the White House even as we
speak.
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13 Oct 2006 12:13:01 AM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
maginot line <georgew.k@humboldt1.com> wrote:
Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith
By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 at 4:59 PM - PDT
[video] BUSH: The stakes couldn't be any higher, as I said earlier, in
the world in which we live. There are extreme elements that use
religion to achieve objectives.
He was talking about religious extremists in Iraq. But an hour later,
Mr. Bush posed with officials from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Thanks for the post, Maggot Loon. I *do* hope you libs attack
Christians by comparing them with Islamoterrorists.
The beauty part is that we don't have to. David Kuo, the second director of
the Office of Faith Based Initiatives is coming out with his new tell all
"Tempting Faith" this coming Tuesday and revealing how the Bush
administration showed nothing but contempt for the Evangelical Community.
Richard Viguerie has already labeled the Bush Regime as anti-evangelical and
religious political activists are deserting the White House even as we
speak.
Your strategy, probably derived from recent moveon.org talking
points, isn't fooling anybody, Gandolt. If Bush was close to the
Christians, you'd be attacking him as being a puppet of the intolerant
God Squad. But when he holds views other than theirs you try to
portray the religious right as fractured and defeated.
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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13 Oct 2006 12:39:46 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
maginot line <georgew.k@humboldt1.com> wrote:
Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith
By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 at 4:59 PM - PDT
[video] BUSH: The stakes couldn't be any higher, as I said earlier, in
the world in which we live. There are extreme elements that use
religion to achieve objectives.
He was talking about religious extremists in Iraq. But an hour later,
Mr. Bush posed with officials from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Thanks for the post, Maggot Loon. I *do* hope you libs attack
Christians by comparing them with Islamoterrorists.
The beauty part is that we don't have to. David Kuo, the second director
of
the Office of Faith Based Initiatives is coming out with his new tell all
"Tempting Faith" this coming Tuesday and revealing how the Bush
administration showed nothing but contempt for the Evangelical Community.
Richard Viguerie has already labeled the Bush Regime as anti-evangelical
and
religious political activists are deserting the White House even as we
speak.
Your strategy, probably derived from recent moveon.org talking
points
The *strategy* is derived from your own Christian Right pawns finding out
that the Rove Regime holds them in utter contempt, moron. If Viguerie is
saying it and Feith is saying it and Kuo is saying it and even Tucker
Carlson is saying it, it's not a democratic strategy, it's your fascist
party falling apart at the seams. Since you don't get it, I'll spell it out
for you. You've succeeded in alienating the Christian right. As long as
the Christian right decides to simply stay at home on election day, you're
utterly finished in this country. So the attack on your party is coming
from the incompetence and lies and contempt of your own party.
Go textmessage a page, Foxtrots. It's about all you guys are good at.
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13 Oct 2006 01:18:54 AM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
Your strategy, probably derived from recent moveon.org talking
points
The *strategy* is derived from your own Christian Right pawns finding out
that the Rove Regime holds them in utter contempt, moron. If Viguerie is
saying it and Feith is saying it and Kuo is saying it and even Tucker
Carlson is saying it, it's not a democratic strategy, it's your fascist
party falling apart at the seams. Since you don't get it, I'll spell it out
for you. You've succeeded in alienating the Christian right. As long as
the Christian right decides to simply stay at home on election day, you're
utterly finished in this country. So the attack on your party is coming
from the incompetence and lies and contempt of your own party.
Rove isn't running for office and AFAIK he doesn't have much control
over Reps in congress.
Evangelical Christians are among the most faithful voting blocks in
American politics. They know that if they stay home on election day,
the party that relishes the legality of sucking the brains out of
partially delivered babies and believes that fags should be
brainwashing their children in public schools that cornholing each
other is merely an "alternative lifestyle" will take control. I wouldn't
bet on a low voter turnout by them if I were you.
Go textmessage a page, Foxtrots. It's about all you guys are good at.
Go get your talking points from George Soreass, Gandolt.
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13 Oct 2006 11:34:26 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
Your strategy, probably derived from recent moveon.org talking
points
The *strategy* is derived from your own Christian Right pawns finding out
that the Rove Regime holds them in utter contempt, moron. If Viguerie is
saying it and Feith is saying it and Kuo is saying it and even Tucker
Carlson is saying it, it's not a democratic strategy, it's your fascist
party falling apart at the seams. Since you don't get it, I'll spell it
out
for you. You've succeeded in alienating the Christian right. As long as
the Christian right decides to simply stay at home on election day, you're
utterly finished in this country. So the attack on your party is coming
from the incompetence and lies and contempt of your own party.
Rove isn't running for office
He's just responsible for the Regime's political arm. Tell us some more
*****, Foxtrots.
and AFAIK he doesn't have much control
over Reps in congress.
Then you don't know much, Foxtrots.
Evangelical Christians are among the most faithful voting blocks in
American politics.
And they know that the GOPs have screwed them.
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| User: "Foxtrot" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:56:09 PM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
The *strategy* is derived from your own Christian Right pawns finding out
that the Rove Regime holds them in utter contempt, moron. If Viguerie is
saying it and Feith is saying it and Kuo is saying it and even Tucker
Carlson is saying it, it's not a democratic strategy, it's your fascist
party falling apart at the seams. Since you don't get it, I'll spell it
out
for you. You've succeeded in alienating the Christian right. As long as
the Christian right decides to simply stay at home on election day, you're
utterly finished in this country. So the attack on your party is coming
from the incompetence and lies and contempt of your own party.
Rove isn't running for office
He's just responsible for the Regime's political arm. Tell us some more
*****, Foxtrots.
and AFAIK he doesn't have much control
over Reps in congress.
Then you don't know much, Foxtrots.
What evidence do you have that Rove controls congress, Gandolt?
Evangelical Christians are among the most faithful voting blocks in
American politics.
And they know that the GOPs have screwed them.
Or maybe they're just realistic enough to understand that nobody
gets everything they want, eh?
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| User: "Gandalf Grey" |
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13 Oct 2006 07:10:19 PM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
The *strategy* is derived from your own Christian Right pawns finding
out
that the Rove Regime holds them in utter contempt, moron. If Viguerie
is
saying it and Feith is saying it and Kuo is saying it and even Tucker
Carlson is saying it, it's not a democratic strategy, it's your fascist
party falling apart at the seams. Since you don't get it, I'll spell it
out
for you. You've succeeded in alienating the Christian right. As long
as
the Christian right decides to simply stay at home on election day,
you're
utterly finished in this country. So the attack on your party is coming
from the incompetence and lies and contempt of your own party.
Rove isn't running for office
He's just responsible for the Regime's political arm. Tell us some more
*****, Foxtrots.
and AFAIK he doesn't have much control
over Reps in congress.
Then you don't know much, Foxtrots.
What evidence do you have that Rove controls congress, Gandolt?
Just the evidence of the reps themselves that have reported that Rove and
Company twist arms before any close vote.
Evangelical Christians are among the most faithful voting blocks in
American politics.
And they know that the GOPs have screwed them.
Or maybe they're just realistic enough to understand that nobody
gets everything they want, eh?
Or maybe they have just enough dignity not to put up with being called
'nutballs' by the very people who swore to further their cause.
Give it up, Foxtrots. Your party is in duck and cover mode and with good
reason.
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13 Oct 2006 09:04:18 AM |
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Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic in
news:n6bui255sos973olo8jh8g4gv6l263r4c5@4ax.com:
They know that if they stay home on election day,
the party that relishes the legality of sucking the brains out of
partially delivered babies and believes that fags should be
brainwashing their children in public schools that cornholing each
other is merely an "alternative lifestyle" will take control.
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in public
office as an alternative lifestyle?
you are a disingenuous scumbag.
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13 Oct 2006 09:27:16 AM |
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sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
They know that if they stay home on election day,
the party that relishes the legality of sucking the brains out of
partially delivered babies and believes that fags should be
brainwashing their children in public schools that cornholing each
other is merely an "alternative lifestyle" will take control.
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in public
office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
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15 Oct 2006 03:54:37 PM |
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Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic in
news:ng8vi2d200vc97s3e8c05osm6hb969l5q8@4ax.com:
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
They know that if they stay home on election day,
the party that relishes the legality of sucking the brains out of
partially delivered babies and believes that fags should be
brainwashing their children in public schools that cornholing each
other is merely an "alternative lifestyle" will take control.
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in public
office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
how about that ann coulter guy?
http://newsbusters.org/node/8173
Wilson: Alright, so Ann, a lot of people look at this and say this could
change the dynamic of the elections. What say you?
Coulter: Um, not, not, no. Certainly not this one person. I don’t think
the Republicans did anything wrong. You had one gay guy sending
inappropriate instant messages. As far as we know now there wasn’t any
inappropriate touching, and Foley adamantly denies it. Pretty minor scandal
compared to the Democrat sex scandals. Oh, maybe we could have a bipartisan
commission with, with Clinton heading it to investigate this. But, um, what
I do think is striking about it since it’s such a scandalette that’s
sweeping the nation is it shows the Democrats don’t want to talk about
national security. That wasn’t going well for them. But, um, now they can
engage in wild, over the top gay bashing for the next few weeks.
she keeps referring to him as a "gay guy," instead of what he is: a
pedophile.
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| User: "Foxtrot" |
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15 Oct 2006 06:39:32 PM |
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sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in public
office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
how about that ann coulter guy?
http://newsbusters.org/node/8173
Wilson: Alright, so Ann, a lot of people look at this and say this could
change the dynamic of the elections. What say you?
Coulter: Um, not, not, no. Certainly not this one person. I don’t think
the Republicans did anything wrong. You had one gay guy sending
inappropriate instant messages. As far as we know now there wasn’t any
inappropriate touching, and Foley adamantly denies it. Pretty minor scandal
compared to the Democrat sex scandals. Oh, maybe we could have a bipartisan
commission with, with Clinton heading it to investigate this. But, um, what
I do think is striking about it since it’s such a scandalette that’s
sweeping the nation is it shows the Democrats don’t want to talk about
national security. That wasn’t going well for them. But, um, now they can
engage in wild, over the top gay bashing for the next few weeks.
she keeps referring to him as a "gay guy," instead of what he is: a
pedophile.
That's your proof that the entire Republican party condones sex
with minors?!? LOL
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15 Oct 2006 11:29:56 PM |
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Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic in
news:86f5j2pso9vi0fpi3job2nercektq126ko@4ax.com:
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in
public office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
how about that ann coulter guy?
http://newsbusters.org/node/8173
Wilson: Alright, so Ann, a lot of people look at this and say this
could change the dynamic of the elections. What say you?
Coulter: Um, not, not, no. Certainly not this one person. I don’t
think the Republicans did anything wrong. You had one gay guy sending
inappropriate instant messages. As far as we know now there wasn’t any
inappropriate touching, and Foley adamantly denies it. Pretty minor
scandal compared to the Democrat sex scandals. Oh, maybe we could have
a bipartisan commission with, with Clinton heading it to investigate
this. But, um, what I do think is striking about it since it’s such a
scandalette that’s sweeping the nation is it shows the Democrats don’t
want to talk about national security. That wasn’t going well for them.
But, um, now they can engage in wild, over the top gay bashing for the
next few weeks.
she keeps referring to him as a "gay guy," instead of what he is: a
pedophile.
That's your proof that the entire Republican party condones sex
with minors?!? LOL
she's just the loud-mouthed guy out front who's echoing what a lot of
republicans don't have the balls to say out loud.
but let's see... what did you say about democrats? we think fags should be
teaching anal sex to kids?
got a cite for that, you loud-mouthed *****?
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16 Oct 2006 01:26:35 AM |
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sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in
public office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
how about that ann coulter guy?
http://newsbusters.org/node/8173
Wilson: Alright, so Ann, a lot of people look at this and say this
could change the dynamic of the elections. What say you?
Coulter: Um, not, not, no. Certainly not this one person. I don’t
think the Republicans did anything wrong. You had one gay guy sending
inappropriate instant messages. As far as we know now there wasn’t any
inappropriate touching, and Foley adamantly denies it. Pretty minor
scandal compared to the Democrat sex scandals. Oh, maybe we could have
a bipartisan commission with, with Clinton heading it to investigate
this. But, um, what I do think is striking about it since it’s such a
scandalette that’s sweeping the nation is it shows the Democrats don’t
want to talk about national security. That wasn’t going well for them.
But, um, now they can engage in wild, over the top gay bashing for the
next few weeks.
she keeps referring to him as a "gay guy," instead of what he is: a
pedophile.
That's your proof that the entire Republican party condones sex
with minors?!? LOL
she's just the loud-mouthed guy out front who's echoing what a lot of
republicans don't have the balls to say out loud.
but let's see... what did you say about democrats? we think fags should be
teaching anal sex to kids?
got a cite for that, you loud-mouthed *****?
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=5810
Gay activists confront Dem senators
Private meeting brings call for clearer support on marriage
* Harry Reid (D-Nev.) (Majority Leader)
* Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.
* Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii)
* Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.)
* Tom Carper (D-Del.)
* Mark Dayton (D-Minn.)
* Barack Obama (D-Ill.)
* Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.)
Gay/AIDS leaders at the meeting [included]:
* Mara Keisling (National Center for Transgender Equality)
* Eliza Byard (GLSEN)
Here's what the GLSEN believe in.
http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/library/record/398.html
GLSEN believes that learning about the diversity of humankind is
an essential part of education in a democratic society, and affirms
the right of students to learn in classroom environments that
nurture diversity. GLSEN encourages schools to allow students in
all grade levels access to curricula, trainings, texts and materials
-- in all areas including but not limited to, history, literature, family
life, sexuality and health education -- that are relevant,
comprehensive, age-appropriate, medically-accurate and inclusive
of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression.
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16 Oct 2006 11:56:16 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
rather than the party that describes cornholing their children in
public office as an alternative lifestyle?
Cite.
how about that ann coulter guy?
http://newsbusters.org/node/8173
Wilson: Alright, so Ann, a lot of people look at this and say this
could change the dynamic of the elections. What say you?
Coulter: Um, not, not, no. Certainly not this one person. I don't
think the Republicans did anything wrong. You had one gay guy sending
inappropriate instant messages. As far as we know now there wasn't any
inappropriate touching, and Foley adamantly denies it. Pretty minor
scandal compared to the Democrat sex scandals. Oh, maybe we could have
a bipartisan commission with, with Clinton heading it to investigate
this. But, um, what I do think is striking about it since it's such a
scandalette that's sweeping the nation is it shows the Democrats don't
want to talk about national security. That wasn't going well for them.
But, um, now they can engage in wild, over the top gay bashing for the
next few weeks.
she keeps referring to him as a "gay guy," instead of what he is: a
pedophile.
That's your proof that the entire Republican party condones sex
with minors?!? LOL
she's just the loud-mouthed guy out front who's echoing what a lot of
republicans don't have the balls to say out loud.
but let's see... what did you say about democrats? we think fags should
be
teaching anal sex to kids?
got a cite for that, you loud-mouthed *****?
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Care to cite WHERE in "Heather Has Two Mommies" we will find instructions in
anal sex directed to children?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
And again, where do we see instructions here on anal sex being proposed as
being taught to children?
Here's what the GLSEN believe in.
http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/library/record/398.html
GLSEN believes that learning about the diversity of humankind is
an essential part of education in a democratic society, and affirms
the right of students to learn in classroom environments that
nurture diversity. GLSEN encourages schools to allow students in
all grade levels access to curricula, trainings, texts and materials
-- in all areas including but not limited to, history, literature,
family
life, sexuality and health education -- that are relevant,
comprehensive, age-appropriate, medically-accurate and inclusive
of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression.
Again. WHERE is there instruction in anal sex in any of this?
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17 Oct 2006 05:46:33 PM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Care to cite WHERE in "Heather Has Two Mommies" we will find instructions in
anal sex directed to children?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
And again, where do we see instructions here on anal sex being proposed as
being taught to children?
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are trying
to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves sodomy.
Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
Are you denying the kind of perverted physical interaction that male
fags indulge in, Gandolt? Sounds to me like you're ashamed of their
behavior. I don't blame you, I'd be ashamed to have them on my side
too.
Here's what the GLSEN believe in.
http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/library/record/398.html
GLSEN believes that learning about the diversity of humankind is
an essential part of education in a democratic society, and affirms
the right of students to learn in classroom environments that
nurture diversity. GLSEN encourages schools to allow students in
all grade levels access to curricula, trainings, texts and materials
-- in all areas including but not limited to, history, literature,
family
life, sexuality and health education -- that are relevant,
comprehensive, age-appropriate, medically-accurate and inclusive
of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression.
Again. WHERE is there instruction in anal sex in any of this?
It says they seek to provide access to training, Gandolt. WTF do you
think that means?
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17 Oct 2006 05:59:31 PM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Care to cite WHERE in "Heather Has Two Mommies" we will find instructions
in
anal sex directed to children?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
And again, where do we see instructions here on anal sex being proposed as
being taught to children?
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are trying
to normalize homosexuality.
Where are there instructions here on anal sex being proposed as a curriculum
for children?
Answer the question.
GLSEN believes that learning about the diversity of humankind is
an essential part of education in a democratic society, and affirms
the right of students to learn in classroom environments that
nurture diversity. GLSEN encourages schools to allow students in
all grade levels access to curricula, trainings, texts and materials
-- in all areas including but not limited to, history, literature,
family
life, sexuality and health education -- that are relevant,
comprehensive, age-appropriate, medically-accurate and inclusive
of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression.
Again. WHERE is there instruction in anal sex in any of this?
It says they seek to provide access to training that is age-appropriate,
relevant and involving history, family life, health education, etc. REALLY
DANGEROUS STUFF.
Where is there instruction in anal sex in any of this?
Answer the question. What can you point to that involves instruction in
anal sex?
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17 Oct 2006 06:31:38 PM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
news:hrmaj2hid3lgsbmnaf87tnbdocfg80uqmm@4ax.com...
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Care to cite WHERE in "Heather Has Two Mommies" we will find instructions
in
anal sex directed to children?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
And again, where do we see instructions here on anal sex being proposed as
being taught to children?
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are trying
to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves sodomy.
Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
You know wrong.
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the transmission of
aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa and Asia.
Larry
Are you denying the kind of perverted physical interaction that male
fags indulge in, Gandolt? Sounds to me like you're ashamed of their
behavior. I don't blame you, I'd be ashamed to have them on my side
too.
Here's what the GLSEN believe in.
http://www.glsen.org/cgi-bin/iowa/all/library/record/398.html
GLSEN believes that learning about the diversity of humankind is
an essential part of education in a democratic society, and affirms
the right of students to learn in classroom environments that
nurture diversity. GLSEN encourages schools to allow students in
all grade levels access to curricula, trainings, texts and materials
-- in all areas including but not limited to, history, literature,
family
life, sexuality and health education -- that are relevant,
comprehensive, age-appropriate, medically-accurate and inclusive
of sexual orientation and gender identity/expression.
Again. WHERE is there instruction in anal sex in any of this?
It says they seek to provide access to training, Gandolt. WTF do you
think that means?
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17 Oct 2006 06:45:35 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote in message
news:eh3p4p$739$1@news04.infoave.net...
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
news:hrmaj2hid3lgsbmnaf87tnbdocfg80uqmm@4ax.com...
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
I'm amazed that you deny Dems support the teaching of homosexuality
in public schools. Every heard of the school book "Heather Has Two
Mommies"?
Care to cite WHERE in "Heather Has Two Mommies" we will find instructions
in
anal sex directed to children?
Here we see that Democratic leaders met with groups like the Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.
And again, where do we see instructions here on anal sex being proposed
as
being taught to children?
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are trying
to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves sodomy.
Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
You know wrong.
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the transmission
of aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa and Asia.
Larry
Trots is desperately trying to divert attention from the fact that
homosexuality has nothing to do with the breakdown of marriage in the US,
that pedophilia does not involve homosexuality and that his party is losing
its grip on a moral issue that it never understood and has no control over.
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17 Oct 2006 07:51:09 PM |
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"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are trying
to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves sodomy.
Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
You know wrong.
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the transmission of
aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa and Asia.
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0425024414.shtml
AIDS Risk Still Low for Most Heterosexuals
In the United States, high-risk groups for AIDS include gay men
(currently 42 percent of AIDS patients), IV-drug users (25 percent)
and people who have had transfusions.
Throughout the 80s and 90s AIDS activists tried to scare all of us
by saying that the disease was going to threaten all of us. But that's
simply not true.
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
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17 Oct 2006 11:26:01 PM |
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Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic in
news:o4uaj2pjeqvlu3fh12b1kvf858gbu6fdhn@4ax.com:
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are
trying to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves
sodomy. Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
You know wrong.
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the
transmission of aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa
and Asia.
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0425024414.shtml
AIDS Risk Still Low for Most Heterosexuals
In the United States, high-risk groups for AIDS include gay men
(currently 42 percent of AIDS patients), IV-drug users (25 percent)
and people who have had transfusions.
who are the other 33%? people who caught it from a toilet seat?
Throughout the 80s and 90s AIDS activists
what the ***** is an "aids activist?"
tried to scare all of us
by saying that the disease was going to threaten all of us. But that's
simply not true.
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
you truly are an idiot.
--
http://www.kexp.org
listener-powered and commercial-free.
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17 Oct 2006 11:39:59 PM |
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"sleeper" <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote in message
news:Xns985FDD1045669sleeper@216.168.3.44...
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic in
news:o4uaj2pjeqvlu3fh12b1kvf858gbu6fdhn@4ax.com:
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
The teachers' unions and their shills in the Democratic party are
trying to normalize homosexuality. FYI male homosexuality involves
sodomy. Which AFAIK is still the leading cause of AIDS.
You know wrong.
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the
transmission of aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa
and Asia.
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0425024414.shtml
AIDS Risk Still Low for Most Heterosexuals
In the United States, high-risk groups for AIDS include gay men
(currently 42 percent of AIDS patients), IV-drug users (25 percent)
and people who have had transfusions.
who are the other 33%? people who caught it from a toilet seat?
Throughout the 80s and 90s AIDS activists
what the ***** is an "aids activist?"
tried to scare all of us
by saying that the disease was going to threaten all of us. But that's
simply not true.
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
you truly are an idiot.
Trots is a professional idiot. It took years of training and effort to get
to his degree of stupidity.
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17 Oct 2006 11:54:46 PM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"sleeper" <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
you truly are an idiot.
Trots is a professional idiot. It took years of training and effort to get
to his degree of stupidity.
Try to stay on-topic, Gandolt.
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
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18 Oct 2006 12:25:26 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"sleeper" <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
you truly are an idiot.
Trots is a professional idiot. It took years of training and effort to
get
to his degree of stupidity.
Try to stay on-topic, Gandolt.
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
Poverty, lack of sex education.
Now are you going to stop lying about statistics, Trots?
And when are you going to point out where anal sex is being taught to
children, Trots?
In other words when are you going to stop lying?
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18 Oct 2006 02:46:02 AM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
Poverty, lack of sex education.
It's got nothing to do with poverty, Gandolt. San Francisco is a very
affluent city but because it has a large population of fags, no doubt
it has a higher rate of AIDS than other US cities.
AIDS has been spreading in Africa for decades. So obviously the
current strategy of throwing tons of money at those nations for drugs
and handing out condoms isn't working. The solution that Africa needs
is to abandon your politically correct notions of "diversity" and tell
them to quit cornholing each other. Problem solved.
Now are you going to stop lying about statistics, Trots?
My statistics came from personalmd.com.
And when are you going to point out where anal sex is being taught to
children, Trots?
Male homosexuality = anal sex, Gandolt. WTF do you think they're
being taught tolerance of?
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18 Oct 2006 11:23:39 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
Poverty, lack of sex education.
It's got nothing to do with poverty
I don't think that too many people here are going to pay much attention to
guy who lies as much and as stupidly as you do, Trots. First you lied about
sex education curricula and 'instruction in anal sex.' Now you can't even
be trusted to tell the truth about statistics.
Get some help with the homophobia, Trots. All that hate you've got yourself
stuffed with is making you even dumber that you usually are.
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18 Oct 2006 10:44:43 PM |
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
Poverty, lack of sex education.
It's got nothing to do with poverty
I don't think that too many people here are going to pay much attention to
guy who lies as much and as stupidly as you do, Trots. First you lied about
sex education curricula and 'instruction in anal sex.' Now you can't even
be trusted to tell the truth about statistics.
Explain to us exactly how poverty causes AIDS, Gandolt. You libs LOVE
victimhood so being poor is like a cruel contagious virus to you, isn't
it? LOL
Get some help with the homophobia, Trots. All that hate you've got yourself
stuffed with is making you even dumber that you usually are.
Thinking that homos should quit BF'ing each other so they don't die of
AIDS is homophobic, eh? I'd say that you're a homophile, defending
their stupid and irresponsible behavior.
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19 Oct 2006 12:43:20 AM |
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"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote in message
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote:
"Foxtrot" <foxtrot@null.com> wrote
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa?
Poverty, lack of sex education.
It's got nothing to do with poverty
I don't think that too many people here are going to pay much attention to
guy who lies as much and as stupidly as you do, Trots. First you lied
about
sex education curricula and 'instruction in anal sex.' Now you can't even
be trusted to tell the truth about statistics.
Explain to us exactly how poverty causes AIDS
Never said it did. Like most things in life that you fascists don't
understand, it's caused by a number of factors.
Get some help with the homophobia, Trots. All that hate you've got
yourself
stuffed with is making you even dumber that you usually are.
Thinking that homos should quit BF'ing each other
Is reflective of the fact that you're spending far more time thinking about
sociality and too little time engaging in it. Lose some weight, move out of
your parent's house, meet people, live life and stop fantasizing over it.
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17 Oct 2006 11:40:14 PM |
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sleeper <moc.sseldnim@repeels> wrote:
Foxtrot <foxtrot@null.com> waxed rhapsodic
"Larry Hewitt" <larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
worldwide hetereosexual contact is the largest cause of the
transmission of aids, accountign for 90% or more of cases in Africa
and Asia.
http://www.personalmd.com/news/n0425024414.shtml
AIDS Risk Still Low for Most Heterosexuals
In the United States, high-risk groups for AIDS include gay men
(currently 42 percent of AIDS patients), IV-drug users (25 percent)
and people who have had transfusions.
who are the other 33%? people who caught it from a toilet seat?
It doesn't say, does it Sleazer? It just lists the number one and two
ways that AIDS is known to be spread. The third most common way
that it was spread used to be through blood transfusions but testing
now mostly prevents that.
From the article:
At most, about 5 percent of AIDS patients are heterosexuals who
likely got the disease from someone who was not at high risk
AT MOST 5% of AIDS patients are heteros. Probably a good size of
the remaining 28% are gays and/or IV drug users who don't admit to
it.
Throughout the 80s and 90s AIDS activists
what the ***** is an "aids activist?"
Apparently you're too young to remember the big AIDS scare that
began in the 80s.
Perhaps the higher AIDS rates among heteros and Africa and Asia
is caused by even more irresponsible sex than gays here, eh?
you truly are an idiot.
How do you explain the high rate of heterosexual AIDS in Africa but
not here? HMMM? Or do you just insult people who do offer ideas
without offering any of your own?
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