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25 Sep 2005 01:39:17 AM |
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Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn |
Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn
Guardian ^ | 09/25/05 | Juliette Jowit
PM moves closer to Bush's solutions
Juliette Jowit, environment editor Sunday September 25, 2005 The
Observer
Tony Blair was accused last night of backing down on the Kyoto
agreement to tackle climate change after he confessed to 'changing my
thinking about this'. In comments earlier this month which have only
just emerged, the Prime Minister talked about a 'post-Kyoto' era,
appearing to predict the death of the multi-lateral treaty. A total of
156 nations have signed it, but the US, the world's biggest polluter,
has refused to do so.
In a debate, hosted by former US President Bill Clinton in New York,
Blair said he was not hopeful of another major agreement on targets to
reduce emissions of the greenhouse gases blamed for climate change.
Instead, he talked enthusiastically about focusing on technology-led
solutions, the process favoured by America, Japan, China and India,
but rejected by environmental campaigners and other leaders, including
Britain's own minister responsible for climate change minister.
He also back-tracked on his previous insistence that tackling climate
change would not damage economic growth, warning 'no country is going
to cut its growth or consumption substantially' - a phrase that echoes
anti-Kyoto arguments of President George Bush.
'Some people have signed Kyoto, some people haven't,' the Prime
Minister said, adding: 'How do we move forward and ensure that
post-Kyoto, we do try and get agreement?'
The apparent change in tone by Blair is surprising because he made
climate change one of the major themes of his chairmanship of the G8
group of the world's richest nations.
It comes as Labour faces the embarrassing prospect of failing to meet
Britain's own Kyoto targets to reduce greenhouse gas emissions because
of rises in pollution since Labour came to power in 1997.
Tony Juniper, executive director of campaign group Friends of the
Earth, said the Prime Minister's comments were 'extremely retrograde
and dangerous'.
A spokesman from Number 10 Downing Street denied, however, that the
Prime Minister's comments signalled the end of Kyoto. 'The point he
was making is we can't get into a position of "it's either targets or
science and technology"; we need to start from a position where we
incorporate both those points of view,' he said.
'He was reiterating the fact we don't just have a situation in terms
of climate change; we have an international political situation that
needs to be borne in mind.'
Environmental groups were unconvinced, pointing out the Kyoto protocol
sets targets in order to ensure technological and behavioural changes
needed to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse
gases are made.
In a magazine article this month, Blair's own climate change minister
Elliot Morley also wrote that the US focus on technology was 'not... a
substitute for internationally agreed targets and actions'.
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| User: "Art" |
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25 Sep 2005 02:37:35 AM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn
Guardian ^ | 09/25/05 | Juliette Jowit
PM moves closer to Bush's solutions
Juliette Jowit, environment editor Sunday September 25, 2005 The
Observer
Tony Blair was accused last night of backing down on the Kyoto
agreement to tackle climate change after he confessed to 'changing my
thinking about this'. In comments earlier this month which have only
just emerged, the Prime Minister talked about a 'post-Kyoto' era,
appearing to predict the death of the multi-lateral treaty. A total of
156 nations have signed it, but the US, the world's biggest polluter,
has refused to do so.
In a debate, hosted by former US President Bill Clinton in New York,
Blair said he was not hopeful of another major agreement on targets to
reduce emissions of the greenhouse gases blamed for climate change.
And who, exactly is blaming global warming on the UN's list of
greenhouse gasses?
To understand the debate, we need to understand certain facts:
Prior to 1750, it is estimated that the CO2 in the troposphere was
0.000280%
In 2005 the CO2 concentration in the troposphere is 0.000374%
CO2 in such miniscule concentrations is not considered a "greenhouse
gas" as it is meant here. Photon absorption does not significantly
increase if one were to double the present levels to, say, 0.0007%.
Which is what the levels /might/ be if man were to ignite the last of
the known petroleum reserves all at once.
The Kyoto Protocol is, in essence and in fact, the proposed
implementation for the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate
Change.
All that you need to know about the Protocol is found in Article 11,
Section 2, parts (a) and (b).
It is not designed to reduce the nearly meaningless 0.000374% of CO2 in
the troposphere. It is designed to redistribute the GNP of the United
States.
The PRC is not included in the protocol, btw.
Neither Blair nor Clinton nor Bush would ever be irresponsible enough
to sign the Protocol.
Period.
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Art
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| User: "Aperio Means Reveal" |
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25 Sep 2005 06:22:48 AM |
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"> Captain Compassion wrote:
Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn
Guardian ^ | 09/25/05 | Juliette Jowit
PM moves closer to Bush's solutions
When Kyoto isn't what they want: Let's just scrap it and move on to another
new plan. That's what I got from this post.
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| User: "Art" |
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| Title: Re: Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn |
25 Sep 2005 11:23:41 AM |
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Aperio Means Reveal wrote:
"> Captain Compassion wrote:
Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn
Guardian ^ | 09/25/05 | Juliette Jowit
PM moves closer to Bush's solutions
When Kyoto isn't what they want: Let's just scrap it and move on to another
new plan. That's what I got from this post.
Any plan would neccessarily be keyed to the fasle premises of the
United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.
CO2 is not causing Global Warming.
Fix Kyoto by including China, and I guarantee that we would all
suddenly be made aware of this fact.
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Art
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| User: "Mens sana" |
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| Title: Re: Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn |
25 Sep 2005 04:21:25 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:97hcj11vf4j124rq3jt26u6u6t2hfrs7n3@4ax.com...
Blair is accused of Kyoto U-turn
Guardian ^ | 09/25/05 | Juliette Jowit
PM moves closer to Bush's solutions
Only a churl would suggest that Blair is an oily little shite who does
exactly what Bush tells him.
Mens sana.
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