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"The Passion Against the War" |
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30 Aug 2005 09:50:55 PM |
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Blood of New Orleans on Bush's hands |
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
4793 National Guard unit personnel from Ackerman, Amory, Biloxi,
Booneville, Columbus, Camp McCain, Camp Shelby, Greenville, Gulfport,
Hernando, Jackson, Kosciusko, Laurel, Louisville, Lucedale, Magee,
McComb, Meridian, Monticello, Oxford, Pontotoc, Poplarville, Senatobia,
Starkville, Tupelo, Tylertown, and Winona are in Iraq making the country
safe for ***** Cheney's Halliburton and Bush's price gouging and
speculative oil industry friends while the corpses of their friends and
relatives are being recovered from the flooded streets, rivers, and
bayous of their home state. The same situation exists in devastated New
Orleans and surounding areas of Louisiana, where the death toll from
flooding is predicted to be high. 4109 Louisiana Guardsmen, including
those from hard hit Plaquemine Parish, New Iberia, the city of New
Orleans, and other units who could have assisted in evacuations are now
in Iraq. Mississippi and Louisiana voted for Bush twice. Now they have
the dead bodies in their own neighborhoods to show for it. Hundreds of
dead Americans from your incompetence Mr. Bush. Do you care?
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
~Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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| User: "Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots Looting Democrat maggots @ New Orleans.gov" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of Democrats on theri own hands |
30 Aug 2005 09:53:53 PM |
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Bush told the Democrats to leave . 500,000 smart ones did. The stupid
inbred ones stayed.
No wonder they can't poke holes in paper ballots properly . They are so
inbreded, they have no desire to survive. Just loot.
Bush declares emergency in Louisiana (Hurricane Katrina)
AP ^ | Aug. 27, 2005 | Staff
Posted on 08/27/2005 10:23:07 PM PDT
CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana
on Saturday because of the approach of Hurricane Katrina and his spokesman
urged residents along the coast to heed authorities' advice to evacuate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1472166/posts
Bush issues disaster declarations
President Bush announced Sunday that he had issued disaster declarations for
Louisiana, Mississippi and parts of southern Florida. The declaration for
Miami-Dade and Broward counties in Florida will allow residents there to
apply for federal disaster aid.
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:g3uDfEKCeEIJ:www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/0
8/28/hurricane.katrina/+louisiana+evacuation+announced&hl=en
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| User: "BC Rocks" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of Democrats on theri own hands |
31 Aug 2005 01:15:51 AM |
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"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message
news:Q7OdnZ2dnZ0vkqfmnZ2dnSKGiN6dnZ2dRVn-zJ2dnZ0@adelphia.com...
Bush told the Democrats to leave . 500,000 smart ones did. The stupid
inbred ones stayed.
No wonder they can't poke holes in paper ballots properly . They are so
inbreded, they have no desire to survive. Just loot.
Bush is so fucking stupid he thinks the elderly and disabled people will
grow wings and fly to safe zones.
How about the Republican idiots from Florida who cry and whine each summer
when they stay put during tropical storms and then ***** for government
hand-outs.
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| User: "Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots Looting Democrat maggots @ New Orleans.gov" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of Democrats on theri own hands |
31 Aug 2005 06:35:34 AM |
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"BC Rocks" <myoilers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rWbRe.339601$5V4.188155@pd7tw3no...
"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message
news:Q7OdnZ2dnZ0vkqfmnZ2dnSKGiN6dnZ2dRVn-zJ2dnZ0@adelphia.com...
Bush told the Democrats to leave . 500,000 smart ones did. The stupid
inbred ones stayed.
No wonder they can't poke holes in paper ballots properly . They are so
inbreded, they have no desire to survive. Just loot.
Bush is so fucking stupid he thinks the elderly and disabled people will
grow wings and fly to safe zones.
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YEah, those thousands of people \were so disabled they had no problem
running around waist deep water grabbing bags full of Loot from stores and
running back to their homes.
Yeah, real disabled all right
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| User: "BC Rocks" |
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01 Sep 2005 12:00:50 AM |
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"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message news:6sCdnbtuyrCeC4jeRVn-rA@adelphia.com...
"BC Rocks" <myoilers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rWbRe.339601$5V4.188155@pd7tw3no...
"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message
news:Q7OdnZ2dnZ0vkqfmnZ2dnSKGiN6dnZ2dRVn-zJ2dnZ0@adelphia.com...
Bush told the Democrats to leave . 500,000 smart ones did. The
stupid
inbred ones stayed.
No wonder they can't poke holes in paper ballots properly . They are
so
inbreded, they have no desire to survive. Just loot.
Bush is so fucking stupid he thinks the elderly and disabled people will
grow wings and fly to safe zones.
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YEah, those thousands of people \were so disabled they had no problem
running around waist deep water grabbing bags full of Loot from stores
and
running back to their homes.
Yeah, real disabled all right
Well obviously there are exceptions, but when the ***** storm hits 30 miles
inland, nobody predicted that.
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| User: "Roy Blankenship" |
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31 Aug 2005 02:55:45 AM |
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"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message
news:Q7OdnZ2dnZ0vkqfmnZ2dnSKGiN6dnZ2dRVn-zJ2dnZ0@adelphia.com...
Have any of you noticed that a lot of the RNC shills have misspellings in
the titles in their lame attempts to slam the left?
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| User: "BC Rocks" |
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31 Aug 2005 03:09:51 AM |
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"Roy Blankenship" <pointblank@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5odRe.2737$4P5.433@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Liberal Democrat Looting Maggots" <Looting Democrat maggots @ New
Orleans.gov> wrote in message
news:Q7OdnZ2dnZ0vkqfmnZ2dnSKGiN6dnZ2dRVn-zJ2dnZ0@adelphia.com...
Have any of you noticed that a lot of the RNC shills have misspellings in
the titles in their lame attempts to slam the left?
I guess it's hard to type when one hand is stroking it to photos of Pat
Robertson, Bush and Cheney.
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of ALL PEOPLE on the hands of LIBs |
30 Aug 2005 10:41:34 PM |
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CLINTON did not hesitate to comment on
what should be done for people he didn't even know
with the Asian Tsunami, how typical of him to remain silent when it really matter.
Yeah, we know precisely how he feels our pain...
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..."
-- Bill Clinton
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/110053.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/110051.jpg
LIBs would rather switch than fight.
as-if the struggle to remain free be a sacrifice to anyone
except those willing to live as a slave.
---
LIB's plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as it's standard of Value,
making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of Values
which one is willing to Betray.
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| User: "©hri§tÇræm® " |
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| Title: Re: Blood of ALL PEOPLE on the hands of LIBs |
31 Aug 2005 01:37:52 AM |
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CLINTON did not hesitate to comment on
what should be done for people he didn't even know
with the Asian Tsunami, how typical of him to remain silent when it really matter.
Now you're begging Clinton to save Bush. You people are psychos.
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©hri§tÇræm®
"The power of Cream compels you."
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of New Orleans on Bush's hands |
30 Aug 2005 11:02:04 PM |
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"The Passion Against the War" <@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:431519BF.E397EE1C@nospam.com...
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
4793 National Guard unit personnel from Ackerman, Amory, Biloxi,
Booneville, Columbus, Camp McCain, Camp Shelby, Greenville, Gulfport,
Hernando, Jackson, Kosciusko, Laurel, Louisville, Lucedale, Magee,
McComb, Meridian, Monticello, Oxford, Pontotoc, Poplarville, Senatobia,
Starkville, Tupelo, Tylertown, and Winona are in Iraq making the country
safe for ***** Cheney's Halliburton and Bush's price gouging and
speculative oil industry friends while the corpses of their friends and
relatives are being recovered from the flooded streets, rivers, and
bayous of their home state. The same situation exists in devastated New
Orleans and surounding areas of Louisiana, where the death toll from
flooding is predicted to be high. 4109 Louisiana Guardsmen, including
those from hard hit Plaquemine Parish, New Iberia, the city of New
Orleans, and other units who could have assisted in evacuations are now
in Iraq. Mississippi and Louisiana voted for Bush twice. Now they have
the dead bodies in their own neighborhoods to show for it. Hundreds of
dead Americans from your incompetence Mr. Bush. Do you care?
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
~Absolute power corrupts absolutely
And absolutely agenda driven stupidity makes you mildly humorous.
The fact that this pisses you off so much gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Stew in it loser.
Jim E
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| User: "whofan" |
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30 Aug 2005 09:59:22 PM |
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The Passion Against the War wrote:
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
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| User: "Georgie Nibbles Cheneys Nuts" |
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30 Aug 2005 10:41:33 PM |
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:XJCdnQLc9IaRgIjeRVn-1A@rcn.net...
The Passion Against the War wrote:
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
If there was money to be made by sinking the Titanic then the Bushes would
definitely have been involved.
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| User: "BC Rocks" |
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31 Aug 2005 03:12:23 AM |
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:XJCdnQLc9IaRgIjeRVn-1A@rcn.net...
The Passion Against the War wrote:
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense of the most inept president
in history.
Maybe if dicklock didn't send the National Guard off to die in Iraq, there
would be more then FEMA and the Coast Guard to help the people in LA.
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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| Title: Re: Blood of New Orleans on Clinton's hands |
31 Aug 2005 08:45:11 AM |
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In article "BC Rocks" wrote:
"whofan" wrote in message
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense
of the most inept president
in history.
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/archives/whitehouse-papers/1993/Oct/Presidents-Somalia-Message-to-Congress-1993-10-13
to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other
potential adversaries around the world that they can change our
policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans.
-- Bill Clinton'93, just before he pulled out of Somalia
Visualize WORLD DEATH.
This is WORLD PRESIDENT Clinton's Bridge.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/108617.jpg
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109562.jpg
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LIB's plead for a Morality which holds COMPROMISE as it's standard of Value,
making it possible to judge Virtue on the basis of the number of Values
which one is willing to Betray.
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=7§ion=0&article=59952&d=5&m=3&y=2005
"Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections
since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997)...... In every single election,
the guys I identify with got two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote.
There is no other country in the world I can say that about, certainly not my own.”
-- Bill Clinton'05
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| User: "BC Rocks" |
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01 Sep 2005 12:24:43 AM |
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"MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" <ExPresident@au.revoir.gov> wrote in message
news:HviRe.2797$4P5.476@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
In article "BC Rocks" wrote:
"whofan" wrote in message
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense
of the most inept president
in history.
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
Hey fuckstick, how about you stop sucking Bush's ***** for a moment so he can
do something to help.
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| User: "KenStahl" |
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31 Aug 2005 09:27:48 AM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
In article "BC Rocks" wrote:
"whofan" wrote in message
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense
of the most inept president
in history.
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
That's ok. People have long memories. Come the next
elections they'll remember that Republicans didn't offer
much help in the time of need and they'll take a chance on
the other party. Sorry, Republicans, even your spin won't
save you this time.
--
Blogging at http://HexagonalPeg.blogspot.com
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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31 Aug 2005 09:56:18 PM |
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In article KenStahl wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
That's ok. People have long memories.,...
One can only hope they TRUELY do....
the fact is, that it is that such historical amnesia
is endemic only to LIBs, and that for a very good reason...
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/106537.jpg
The difference between Red and Blue states.
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| User: "Rob Olsen" |
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31 Aug 2005 08:54:30 AM |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:45:11 GMT, (MANFRED
the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article "BC Rocks" wrote:
"whofan" wrote in message
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense
of the most inept president
in history.
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
Guess you haven't been paying attention. The country has come to it's
collective senses. The American people overwhelmingly oppose bush and
every thing that he has done and is doing. No president has had worse
approval numbers then than those of that idiot-son-of-an-*****
president of yours.
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"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I
mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?"
-Barbra Bush
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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31 Aug 2005 09:09:51 AM |
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In article rob wrote:
(MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE) wrote:
In article "BC Rocks" wrote:
"whofan" wrote in message
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
Like clockwork, the ignorant come to the defense
of the most inept president
in history.
Like CLOCKWORK,
LIBs offer little more
than Indictment and Therapy,
while continuing to lose-out to BOOOSH
one whom they continue to their inferior...
Guess you haven't been paying attention.
The country has come to it's
collective senses....
Why does America need collective senses?
What happened to individual common sense?
Why DO LIBs find their offering 'Indictment and Therapy' so tormentful?
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109878.jpg
LIBs:: Their only 'other' alternative to their Indictment and Therapy.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/109864.jpg
CLINTON:: Appeaser, World President.
His Minions:: They have such sights to show you.
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans ..."
-- Bill Clinton
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| User: "KenStahl" |
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31 Aug 2005 09:29:18 AM |
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MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Why does America need collective senses?
What happened to individual common sense?
Why DO LIBs find their offering 'Indictment and Therapy' so tormentful?
We will be glad to indict any Republican who stands in the
way of actually being helpful.
--
Blogging at http://HexagonalPeg.blogspot.com
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| User: "MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE" |
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31 Aug 2005 09:50:28 PM |
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In article, KenStahl wrote:
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE wrote:
Why does America need collective senses?
What happened to individual common sense?
Why DO LIBs find their offering 'Indictment and Therapy' so tormentful?
We will be glad to indict any Republican who stands in the
way of actually being helpful.
Is that the rational why Our Hero JOHN KERRY
questioned the Reality of the threat of the Soviet Union
but quivers at the thought that the theory of Global Warming might be true?
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/comment/kirsanow200403290849.asp
"I think it is bogus, totally artificial. There is no threat.
The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands."
...
And while Kerry dismisses the threats of Communism and terrorism as
"bogus" or "exaggerated," he sees fit to compare the threat of global warming
to the threats of the Cold War. This kind of flippant analysis
— from a presidential candidate, no less —
would not be lightly tolerated in a society with a long memory.
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/15914.jpg
JOHN KERRY:: It's CHOCOLATE. Really!
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| User: "Clinton To Blame" |
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| Title: Clinton To Blame! Blood of New Orleans on Clinton's hands |
31 Aug 2005 09:00:55 AM |
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Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org> wrote
Guess you haven't been paying attention. The country has come to it's
collective senses. The American people overwhelmingly oppose bush and
every thing that he has done and is doing. No president has had worse
approval numbers then than those of that idiot-son-of-an-*****
president of yours.
Bush was trying to save New Orleans by sending everyone to Iraq, but Clinton
stopped him because.
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| User: "Raymond" |
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31 Aug 2005 03:35:35 AM |
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Putting Some Heat on Bush
Scientist Inspires Anger, Awe for Challenges on Global Warming
Source: Copyright 2005, Washington Post
Date: January 19, 2005
Byline: Juliet Eilperin
In his worn navy windbreaker, 63-year-old climatologist James E. Hansen
looks more like the Iowa farm native that he is than a rebel -- but
he's both.
Hansen, a lifelong government employee who heads NASA's Goddard
Institute for Space Studies in New York, has inspired both anger and
awe in the nation's scientific and political communities since publicly
denouncing the Bush administration's policy on climate change last
year.
In Profile
James E. Hansen
Title: Director, Goddard Institute for Space Studies.
Education: Bachelor's of science in physics and mathematics, University
of Iowa; doctorate in physics, University of Iowa.
Age: 63.
Family: Married; two children; two grandchildren.
Career highlights: Helped identify the properties of clouds that
covered Venus so later researchers could determine the clouds were made
of sulfuric acid; showed how scientists could use large volcanic
eruptions to help predict climate change.
Recent reading: "Galileo's Mistake" by Wade Rowland and "Galileo in
Rome" by William R. Shea and Mariano Artigas.
Pastimes: Teaching his grandchildren astronomy with his new telescope.
Speaking in the swing state of Iowa days before the presidential
election, Hansen accused a senior administration official of trying to
block him from discussing the dangerous effects of global warming.
In the University of Iowa speech, Hansen recounted how NASA
Administrator Sean O'Keefe told him in a 2003 meeting that he shouldn't
talk "about dangerous anthropogenic interference" -- humans' influence
on the atmosphere -- "because we do not know enough or have enough
evidence for what would constitute dangerous anthropogenic
interference."
But Hansen said that scientists know enough to conclude we have reached
this danger point and that their efforts to get the word out are being
blocked by the administration. "In my more than three decades in
government, I have never seen anything approaching the degree to which
information flow from scientists to the public has been screened and
controlled as it has now," Hansen said. He added that although the
administration wants to wait 10 years to evaluate climate change,
"delay of another decade, I argue, is a colossal risk."
Senior administration officials deny Hansen's charges: O'Keefe
spokesman Glenn Mahone said the administrator doesn't "recall ever
having the conversation" on climate change that Hansen described,
adding that O'Keefe "has encouraged open dialogue and open conversation
about those issues."
But Hansen, who has worked for NASA since he was 25, has continued to
chide the administration for not moving swiftly enough to address
global warming. In a recent interview, he called Bush officials
"reasonable people" who need to be convinced that climate change is an
urgent matter.
"As the evidence gathers, you would hope they would be flexible,"
Hansen said in the slow, measured tones he has retained from his years
growing up on an Iowa farm. "We have to deal with this. You can't
ignore it."
The ongoing sparring match between Hansen and his superiors underscores
a broader tension between President Bush's top policy advisers and many
senior U.S. scientists, who have loudly blasted the administration's
approach to environmental questions in recent months. Nearly 50 Nobel
laureates endorsed Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) for president; this
year the Union of Concerned Scientists has collected more than 6,000
scientists' signatures on a letter questioning how the president
applies research to policymaking.
After the barrage of criticism, John H. Marburger III, Bush's top
science adviser, told Science magazine that if the researchers continue
their protests, they might alienate influential lawmakers who set
federal science budgets.
Hansen, who also took on Bush's father, President George H.W. Bush, on
the question of climate change in the late 1980s, is undeterred. An
advocate for caps on carbon dioxide emissions and stricter fuel
standards for automobiles -- two policies that Bush advisers say would
hurt the U.S. economy -- Hansen said he has to oppose what he said is
the government's choice to delay action on new regulations to limit
emissions under the guise of seeking more scientific research.
"We have got to be an independent voice. We should not be influenced in
any way by funding," Hansen said.
Hansen is no stranger to controversy. In 1989, he accused the Office of
Management and Budget of watering down his congressional testimony on
climate change to make the situation appear less dire.
"I'm strictly trying to understand the Earth as a planet," said Hansen,
who started his career studying the clouds around Venus but switched in
1978 to climate modeling.
The administration has done nothing to punish Hansen since he made his
public comments last fall, and Marburger said in an interview that he
considers Hansen "a very good climate scientist" who should stick to
scientific analysis instead of policy prescriptions.
"I take his work seriously. His work has had a big impact on this
administration's climate-change policy," Marburger said. "But he's not
an economist. The fact that he's a good scientist does not necessarily
make him the best person to formulate policy that would affect the
economy."
Former vice president Al Gore, who backs limits on emissions of carbon
dioxide, said the administration's strained relationship with Hansen
shows the "contempt for the rule of reason" of Bush and his deputies.
"When science conflicts with the exercise of power, they attempt to
demean the messenger attempting to deliver the truth, and they seek out
self-interested advocates of alternative views of reality," said Gore,
who as a senator defended Hansen during the controversy over his 1989
testimony.
Within the scientific community, Hansen remains respected for much of
his research, though some have questioned his recent studies on the
effect of aerosols on global warming. He is popular at the space
institute -- housed at Columbia University above the famed diner from
the comedy series "Seinfield" -- where he has played Frisbee in the
halls.
Gavin A. Schmidt, a climatologist who has worked with Hansen at Goddard
for nearly a decade, said Hansen gets his leverage from the fact that
he a senior scholar who is still breaking scientific ground.
"Very few people have that kind of longevity and credibility and are
still doing new things," Schmidt said. "Any time he says something,
it's news. He still sets the agenda."
Kevin E. Trenberth, who heads the climate analysis section of the
nonprofit, federally funded National Center for Atmospheric Research,
said Hansen's willingness to espouse the dominant scientific view on
climate change "is a responsible thing to do, even if it puts at
potential jeopardy his own position." Trenberth added: "This is an
important issue, a long-term issue that affects humanity in the
future."
Some, however, have questioned Hansen's approach. Patrick J. Michaels,
a climatologist and a senior fellow in environmental studies at the
libertarian Cato Institute, said it was inappropriate for Hansen as a
federal employee to attack the administration in a battleground state
less than two weeks before the election.
"The problem with Jim is he does climate and then he makes policy
decisions that I don't think are very thoughtful," said Michaels, who
receives funding from public and industry sources, and opposes
mandatory carbon controls.
Hansen has found some common ground with administration officials, who
like his recent findings that curbing methane emissions from landfills,
mining operations and gas-drilling ventures can help counter warming.
The administration recently persuaded more than a dozen countries to
sign a pact to capture methane before it is released into the
atmosphere, a program Hansen praised.
But it remains unclear whether Bush officials can reach some sort of
detente with Hansen, who said in a recent e-mail that he is not
interested in "making the administration mad" but in persuading it to
cut carbon dioxide emissions from power plants and elsewhere. But in
the meantime, Hansen said he will continue to press ahead with both
research and advocacy.
"You can't just give up," he said. "I remain optimistic, even in this
administration, that the evidence is going to become strong enough so
there's a chance there will be a change in policy."
Originally posted at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19162-2005Jan18.html
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30 Aug 2005 10:24:06 PM |
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"whofan" <whofan@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:XJCdnQLc9IaRgIjeRVn-1A@rcn.net...
The Passion Against the War wrote:
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
Like clockwork, the Loony Left delivers.
If you blame this one on Bush...you might as well blame the sinking
of the Titanic on Bush.
What was Prescott Bush doing in the early 1900's? hmmmmmmmmmmm
Seriously, they could of did more. The basically left the bottom feeders to
fend for themselves. The brain behind opening up the super dome saved a lot
of people's lives. I think people should take responsibility for their own
lives, and not rely on government to be their savior and god. If I lived in
Lousiana, and Mississippi, and saw that hurricane pop up and move across
Florida, I would of thought. Hmmmmmmmm That thing may come here. And I
would of got out, even if I had to walk.
We can blame Bush for a lot of things, but we need to quit this mindset that
government is our savior and god.
Aperio Acerbus
Reveal Darkness
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30 Aug 2005 11:09:54 PM |
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In article <qp9Re.5862$cg.700@news02.roc.ny>, Aperio Acerbus
<aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote:
Seriously, they could of did more. The basically left the bottom feeders to
fend for themselves. The brain behind opening up the super dome saved a lot
of people's lives.
Well, this is not yet a done deal. The welfare people are still
clogged into the Superdome, still squawking that they wanna be let out
to join their bruthahs and sistahs in looting the white man's stores.
The "accidental fire" which was to remove 20,000 looters and welfare
addicts and welfare breeders has been delayed. State officials are said
to be furious that the schedule has not been met.
Latest estimate is for "an electrical fire" mid-morning. Sealing off
20,000 nignog criminals is like cauterizing a wound with a hot poker.
--Tim May
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31 Aug 2005 05:01:46 AM |
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"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:300820052109546338%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
In article <qp9Re.5862$cg.700@news02.roc.ny>, Aperio Acerbus
<aperio@frontiernet.net> wrote:
Seriously, they could of did more. The basically left the bottom
feeders to
fend for themselves. The brain behind opening up the super dome saved a
lot
of people's lives.
Well, this is not yet a done deal. The welfare people are still
clogged into the Superdome, still squawking that they wanna be let out
to join their bruthahs and sistahs in looting the white man's stores.
The "accidental fire" which was to remove 20,000 looters and welfare
addicts and welfare breeders has been delayed. State officials are said
to be furious that the schedule has not been met.
Latest estimate is for "an electrical fire" mid-morning. Sealing off
20,000 nignog criminals is like cauterizing a wound with a hot poker.
--Tim May
Well Looters should be shot on sight. Regardless of race...
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30 Aug 2005 11:48:49 PM |
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In article Tim May wrote:
Well, this is not yet a done deal. The welfare people are still
clogged into the Superdome, still squawking that they wanna be let out
to join their bruthahs and sistahs in looting the white man's stores.
The "accidental fire" which was to remove 20,000 looters and welfare
addicts and welfare breeders has been delayed. State officials are said
to be furious that the schedule has not been met.
Latest estimate is for "an electrical fire" mid-morning. Sealing off
20,000 nignog criminals is like cauterizing a wound with a hot poker.
in the 15th Century, Vlad the Impaler did no less.
in the 20th Century, so did Clinton....
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/108617.jpg
CLINTON's Waco:: Mission Accomplished.
Proudly doing unto our own people
that which he would forbid us to do to our Adversaries.
Isn't the road to World Presidency FRAUGHT with difficulty?
Won't you feel his PAIN?
http://www.math.buffalo.edu/~dcheptea/history/tepes.html
(6) The Burning of the Sick and Poor
Dracula was very concerned that all his subjects work and contribute
to the common welfare. He once noticed that the poor, vagrants, beggars
and cripples had become very numerous in his land. Consequently, he issued
an invitation to all the poor and sick in Wallachia to come to Tirgoviste for a
great feast, claiming that no one should go hungry in his land. As the poor
and crippled arrived in the city they were ushered into a great hall where a
fabulous feast was prepared for them. The prince's guests ate and drank late
into the night, when Dracula himself made an appearance.
'What else do you desire? Do you want to be without cares,
lacking nothing in this world,' asked the prince.
When they responded positively Dracula ordered the hall boarded up and set on fire.
None escaped the flames. Dracula explained his action to the noblemen by claiming
that he did this,
'in order that they represent no further burden to other men so
that no one will be poor in my realm.'
Isn't this the Village that it take?
http://0cents.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Stamp_Image_Were_Going_to_take_things.jpg
We're going to take things away from YOU
on behalf of the Common Good.
-- Hillary.
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31 Aug 2005 03:38:14 AM |
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Well, these folks are in the quagmire in Iraq.
Bush himself has more culpability; he even denies that global warming
exists or is a problem. As the oceans rise, and storms become more
prevalent, costal cities become more at risk.
Exaserbating the mess, Bush has insisted on an 'oil policy for America'
so we are more dependant than ever one it. Too bad, 40% of America's oil
flows through the region.
The Passion Against the War wrote:
August 30, 2005 -- At least 55 dead from Hurricane Katrina in
Mississippi alone. Many Gulf state National Guardsmen who could have
aided in mandatory coastal evacuations from the deadly category 4
hurricane are in Iraq. Now there are dead U.S. civilians, including
children, on George W. Bush's bloody hands.
4793 National Guard unit personnel from Ackerman, Amory, Biloxi,
Booneville, Columbus, Camp McCain, Camp Shelby, Greenville, Gulfport,
Hernando, Jackson, Kosciusko, Laurel, Louisville, Lucedale, Magee,
McComb, Meridian, Monticello, Oxford, Pontotoc, Poplarville, Senatobia,
Starkville, Tupelo, Tylertown, and Winona are in Iraq making the country
safe for ***** Cheney's Halliburton and Bush's price gouging and
speculative oil industry friends while the corpses of their friends and
relatives are being recovered from the flooded streets, rivers, and
bayous of their home state. The same situation exists in devastated New
Orleans and surounding areas of Louisiana, where the death toll from
flooding is predicted to be high. 4109 Louisiana Guardsmen, including
those from hard hit Plaquemine Parish, New Iberia, the city of New
Orleans, and other units who could have assisted in evacuations are now
in Iraq. Mississippi and Louisiana voted for Bush twice. Now they have
the dead bodies in their own neighborhoods to show for it. Hundreds of
dead Americans from your incompetence Mr. Bush. Do you care?
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
~Absolute power corrupts absolutely
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