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06 Apr 2004 01:43:50 AM |
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Bloody Uprising in Iraq Rocks USSA |
"Bloody Iraq uprising rocks US"
The Age 6/4/2004
"A Shiite Muslim holds a poster of leader Moqtada al-Sadr
near a burning United States Army vehicle in Baghdad early yesterday.
Picture: AFP
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/05/1081017103104.html
"The United States yesterday declared a radical Shiite cleric in Iraq
an outlaw after he urged his supporters to "terrorise" the enemy,
sparking a wave of riots and militia attacks in which up to 11 coalition
soldiers and 30 Iraqis died and more than 200 people were wounded."
We are told that if troops are withdrawn from Iraq, there will be
bloodshed and Chaos descending into Civil War.. But the invasion
and occupation itself has unleashed bloodshed and chaos descending
into Civil War.
"It was the worst fighting between the occupying forces and Iraq's
Shiite majority since the US-led invasion a year ago, prompting US
lawmakers to question the June 30 deadline for handover to Iraqi
sovereignty, and to call for more American troops on the ground."
Despite the latest in a long litany of lies from Bush apparatchiks,
the situation is not improving, but growing worse. As in Vietnam,
the Administration pushes it's Pollyanna delusions, the military
obediently parrot them, until reality forces them to acknowledge
reality in a cry for help.
"The fiercest battle took place early yesterday in the streets of Sadr City,
Baghdad's largest Shiite neighbourhood, where Shiite militiamen fired on US
troops, killing eight of them and wounding about 24. At least 22 Iraqis were
killed and more than 110 were wounded in the fighting."
Shiites, not Sunni's. The lie that the resistance to invasion,
slaughter and
occupation is only pro-Saddam Sunni's is now in tatters. The Sunni's
who were constantly persecuted under Saddam, who were happy to
see the end of Saddam, have peacefully been making it clear that the
USSA and it's mercenaries are unwelcome. They do not want to
see one regime supported for years by the USSA replaced with another
puppet regime hand picked by Emperor Bush.
"The US military said another three American troops had since
died in clashes elsewhere in Iraq.
Meanwhile, US troops sealed off the turbulent city of Fallujah ahead of a
major operation, code-named Vigilant Resolve, aimed at pacifying the city.
Fallujah is one of the most violent cities in the Sunni Triangle, the
heartland of the insurgency against the American occupation."
The bumbling invaders are in danger of achieving the unthinkable,
uniting the Sunni's and Shia's in a war of liberation against the
foreign
invaders. Anyone remember the fall of Saigon?
"US commanders have been vowing a massive response after insurgents killed
four American security contractors in the city, west of Baghdad, on
Wednesday. Residents dragged the Americans' bodies through the streets,
hanging two of their charred corpses from a bridge, in horrifying scenes
that showed the depth of anti-US sentiment in the city."
A massive response, indeed. The whole city has been sealed off and
bombed.
USSA forces are convinced a 'massive response', in which the whole
community is punished for those who regard the mercenaries occupying
their
country as 'illegal combatants' and killed them. It's a tactic that
worked
so well in Vietnam, any village from which VC operated was punished en
masse.
The VC thus thrived and drew greater support.
The whole TexIraq fiasco has created active terror where there was
none,
armed attacks on Americans bu Iraqi's, where there were none, enemies
where there were none, ...Chaos and anarchy, death and Civil War.
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"About 1200 marines and two battalions of Iraqi security forces were poised
to enter the city in a raid to capture suspected insurgents, officials said.
The insurgency that has plagued US troops in Iraq for months has been led by
Sunni Muslims. But yesterday's clashes in Baghdad and three other cities
threatened to open a dangerous new front - a confrontation with Iraq's
powerful Shiite Muslim majority, which has until now largely avoided
violence with the Americans."
They have shown great restraint as their country was invaded, their
people killed
their antiquities pillaged, their assets sold off to foreign
multinationals, and
their demands for democracy ignored. Now the USSA has started shutting
down their newspapers, just like Saddam did, and with no prospects
for peaceful protest, they have understandably opted for armed response.
"The Americans have been relying on Shiite support because of their historic
oppression by Saddam Hussein and earlier Iraqi regimes."
But they have simultaneously prevented elections because a Shiite
majority is not the outcome the USSA wants.
"The instigator of the revolt was Muqtada al-Sadr, a vitriolic young Shiite
cleric who the US has failed to marginalise in the manoeuvring for political
power in the new Iraq.
Hundreds were wounded yesterday in Baghdad, Najaf, Nasiriyah and Amarah. The
riots were ignited by the arrest of an aide to Sadr.
Followers of Sadr also took over the offices of the governor in the
southern, British-controlled city of Basra.
AFP reported that dozens of militiamen stormed the governor's office at dawn
yesterday, raising a green flag on the roof of the building.
The top US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, yesterday declared Sadr an
"outlaw" who threatened Iraq's security. "Effectively he is attempting to
establish his authority in the place of the legitimate authority...
The USSA has no legitimate authority!
It invented a pretext to invade, WMD's, and a doctrine of
pre-emptive aggression, it flouted international law and
divided the global struggle against terror, it argued might
is right, ...and now it is reaping the whirlwind.
.....
"There is no room for militias in the new Iraq," a senior US official said.
Except for 15,000 paid killers, mercenaries supplied by Blackwater
to protect the local USSA backed Warlords and their puppet regime.
They can't trust the Iraqi police and army, they don't want the
invaders
there anymore than the rest of the country, so they have the most
hated
of illegal combatants... mercenaries, to do their bidding.
"If there are militias that seek to exert control, we will address that head
on."
Too late, the violent crowd in Falugia have demonstrated with
barbaric fury how they will deal with illegal combatants, following
the USSA's own precedent of voiding the Geneva Convention.
What is that American saying? 'What goes around, comes around'.
"Sadr does not hold widespread support among Iraq's Shiites, many of whom
see
him as too young and inexperienced to lead. But he has the backing of
hundreds of young seminary students and many impoverished Shiites, devoted
to him because of his anti-US stance and the memory of his father, a Shiite
religious leader gunned down by suspected agents of Saddam Hussein in 1999.
The violence yesterday was a sign of Sadr's strength. The US troops moved
into Baghdad's Sadr City - named after Moqtada's father - after militiamen
took over five police stations in the neighbourhood. At least two US
military Humvees burned in the streets and tanks rolled in, crushing cars.
Last night Melbourne time, US Apache helicopters launched fired on units of
the Mahdi Army after it attacked five truckloads of US soldiers and
US-trained Iraqi paramilitaries trying to enter al-Showla, a district of
western Baghdad.
In the nearby slums of Sadr City, US troops opened fire on stone-hurling
Shiites attending a funeral for some of the 22 Iraqis killed in fierce
fighting there yesterday."
Winning hearts and minds.
"And it's one two three
whatta we fighting for
don' ask me I don' give a damn
nex' stop is Vietnam"
- Country Joe and the Fish, 1965
Simply substitute TexIraq for Vietnam
and Saddamite for Communist and you have the
Same Old Song:
Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta go out and get those reds -
The only good commie is the one who's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Huh!
Well, come on Wall Street, don't move slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go.
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.
And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
Well, come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your boy come home in a box.
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| User: "Bill Evans" |
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| Title: Re: Bloody Uprising in Iraq Rocks USSA |
06 Apr 2004 09:26:23 AM |
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"fasgnadh" <fasgnadh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4tjdn$1ho0$1@arachne.labyrinth.net.au...
"Bloody Iraq uprising rocks US"
The Age 6/4/2004
"A Shiite Muslim holds a poster of leader Moqtada al-Sadr
near a burning United States Army vehicle in Baghdad early yesterday.
Picture: AFP
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/05/1081017103104.html
Yeah, yeah. We all listen to the news and read the paper, fruity.
Fact 1. Al-Sadr is an Iranian minor cleric with only local support, probably
sent there by Komenhi with the intention of stirring up anti-US feelings.
He'll be dead in a few days.
Fact 2. If the coalition forces withdrew from Iraq tomorrow, the country
would erupt into civil war, which would ultimately wind up sending the whole
middle east up in flames
Opinion; The coalition troops and others should pull back to defensive
perimeters around Bagdad airport and the oil and port facilities and let 'em
have at it. Who'll miss a few million arab child molesters, anyway?
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| User: "Gregory Shearman" |
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| Title: Re: Bloody Uprising in Iraq Rocks USSA |
08 Apr 2004 02:27:45 AM |
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 14:26:23 +0000, Bill Evans wrote:
Fact 1. Al-Sadr is an Iranian minor cleric with only local support,
probably sent there by Komenhi with the intention of stirring up anti-US
feelings. He'll be dead in a few days.
Wow... create a martyr... will the US stupidity never end?
Fact 2. If the coalition forces withdrew from Iraq tomorrow, the country
would erupt into civil war, which would ultimately wind up sending the
whole middle east up in flames
The USA was warned, yet they went ahead anyway. They created the chaos.
They can now live with the ***** they've created.
Opinion; The coalition troops and others should pull back to defensive
perimeters around Bagdad airport and the oil and port facilities and let
'em have at it.
I see, as long as they've got the stolen Iraqi oil, everything's
hunky-dory, eh?
Who'll miss a few million arab child molesters, anyway?
I didn't know that US businessmen were now holidaying in Iraq, molesting
arab children...
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Regards,
Gregory.
"Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."
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| User: "Ned Latham" |
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| Title: Re: Bloody Uprising in Iraq Rocks USSA |
06 Apr 2004 10:28:55 PM |
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
in <c4tjdn$1ho0$1@arachne.labyrinth.net.au>:
----snip----
We are told that if troops are withdrawn from Iraq, there will be
bloodshed and Chaos descending into Civil War..
And what sane person would doubt that?
But the invasion
and occupation itself has unleashed bloodshed and chaos descending
into Civil War.
Wrong again, lunatic. It's war against the occupying forces, not (yet)
civil war.
----snip----
The bumbling invaders are in danger of achieving the unthinkable,
uniting the Sunni's and Shia's in a war of liberation against the
foreign invaders. Anyone remember the fall of Saigon?
It seems you don't remember it very well. The only common factor is
US interference in the nation's affairs.
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They have shown great restraint as their country was invaded, their
people killed, their antiquities pillaged,
Their attitudes to "their" antiquities vary from indifference to
repugnance: they're pagan artifacts, not Muslim. Some of them are
even "blasphemous".
their assets sold off to
foreign multinationals, and their demands for democracy ignored.
"Demands for democracy"? Get back on your medication, freak.
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Ned
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