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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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24 Mar 2005 10:06:58 AM |
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Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
According to the article, bobby's big crime is that he played an
"illegal" chess match in 1992 for which he could be imprisoned for 10
years!!!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7266699/
The Associated Press
Updated: 4:34 a.m. ET March 24, 2005NARITA, Japan - Sporting a long
beard, chess legend Bobby Fischer walked free from a Japanese detention
center Thursday and immediately headed to the airport to fly to his new
home - Iceland - following a nine-month standoff with Tokyo
officials trying to deport him to the United States.
Before leaving, however, the eccentric genius offered a few parting
shots to the leaders of Japan and the United States, whom he accused of
"kidnapping."
"I won't be free until I get out of Japan," he told a crowd of
reporters at the airport here before boarding his flight to Copenhagen
en route to Reykjavic. "This was not an arrest. It was a kidnapping
cooked up by Bush and Koizumi," he said, referring to President Bush
and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
"They are war criminals and should be hung," he said.
(snip)
As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his pants
and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called Japan's
ruling party "gangsters," and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is "Jew-controlled."
(snip)
But he gave up the title a few years later to another Soviet, Anatoly
Karpov, by refusing to defend it. He then fell into obscurity before
resurfacing to play the 1992 exhibition rematch against Spassky in the
former Yugoslavia.
Fischer won the rematch. But his playing violated U.S. sanctions
imposed to punish then-President Slobodan Milosevic. If convicted,
Fischer - who hasn't been to the United States since then - could
face 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Though generally a recluse, Fischer has emerged from silence in radio
broadcasts and on his Web page to express anti-Semitic views and rail
against the United
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| User: "Ryd" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 06:39:51 PM |
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Fischer won the rematch. But his playing violated U.S. sanctions
imposed to punish then-President Slobodan Milosevic. If convicted,
Fischer - who hasn't been to the United States since then - could
face 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Why wouldn't Bush let Fischer earn a living? Because BUSH HATES
CHESS!!!
Bush must be IMPEACHED!
Now.
Ryd
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| User: "Rightard Whitey" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 06:46:35 PM |
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Ryd wrote:
Fischer won the rematch. But his playing violated U.S. sanctions
imposed to punish then-President Slobodan Milosevic. If convicted,
Fischer - who hasn't been to the United States since then - could
face 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
Why wouldn't Bush let Fischer earn a living? Because BUSH HATES
CHESS!!!
Bush must be IMPEACHED!
Now.
Ryd
Fischer should be in Iceland by now. The Japanese released him and the
government of Iceland offered him amnesty.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 10:41:58 AM |
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According to the article, bobby's big crime is that he played an
"illegal" chess match in 1992 for which he could be imprisoned for 10
years!!! >>>
Did you actually read the article about this lunatic?
"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's
ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.
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| User: "Travis Campbell" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 12:02:14 PM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111682518.817250.17430@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
According to the article, bobby's big crime is that he played an
"illegal" chess match in 1992 for which he could be imprisoned for 10
years!!! >>>
Did you actually read the article about this lunatic?
"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's
ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.
Sounds like a Bushie.
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 12:03:08 PM |
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"Travis Campbell" <travisc@compton.net> wrote in message
news:3gD0e.15164$O32.10339@fe04.lga...
<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111682518.817250.17430@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
According to the article, bobby's big crime is that he played an
"illegal" chess match in 1992 for which he could be imprisoned for 10
years!!! >>>
Did you actually read the article about this lunatic?
"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's
ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.
Sounds like a Bushie.
Translation: Quack quack quack.
Don't your hate when your own posts are used against you!
ROFL!!!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
24 Mar 2005 07:39:39 PM |
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"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.>>>
Sounds like a Bushie.>>
Except that Fisher has called for the arrest and execution of Geroge W.
Bush.
"I won't be free until I get out of Japan," he told a crowd of
reporters at the airport here before boarding his flight to Copenhagen
en route to Reykjavic. "This was not an arrest. It was a kidnapping
cooked up by Bush and Koizumi," he said, referring to President Bush
and Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi.
"They are war criminals and should be hung," he said. >>>
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| User: "Kel" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
26 Mar 2005 03:28:22 AM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111763852.156688.236270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by
the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.>>>
Sounds like a Bushie.>>
Except that Fisher has called for the arrest and execution of Geroge
W. Bush.>>>
I've no problem with that, except maybe the killing him part. But
the war criminal should be arrested.>>>
You've got no problem with the idea that America is "Jew controled"?
I don't believe America is "Jew controlled" although it is a common
misconception. America leans too far to please the right wing Christian
Fundamentalists who believe that God will return when Israel is returned to
it's former glory. The Jewish vote in the US is actually very small, but
those Fundamentalist loons can actually make a big difference.
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2005 09:53:07 AM |
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I don't believe America is "Jew controlled" although it is a common
misconception. America leans too far to please the right wing Christian
Fundamentalists who believe that God will return when Israel is
returned to
it's former glory. The Jewish vote in the US is actually very small,
but
those Fundamentalist loons can actually make a big difference.>>>
Ah. So, not only are you an anti-semite, you're also anti-Christian.
You have a very ugly soul.
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| User: "Kel" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:11:00 AM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111852387.780135.124350@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
I don't believe America is "Jew controlled" although it is a common
misconception. America leans too far to please the right wing Christian
Fundamentalists who believe that God will return when Israel is
returned to
it's former glory. The Jewish vote in the US is actually very small,
but
those Fundamentalist loons can actually make a big difference.>>>
Ah. So, not only are you an anti-semite, you're also anti-Christian.
I'm not an anti-Semite at all and I'd love you to point out where I have
said anything that would allow you to make such an assumption.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to have us all
live according to their beliefs. I loath such lunatics for the exact same
reasons as I loath bin Laden. Nobody has the right to tell others how they
must live.
You have a very ugly soul.
Do I suspect that you are one of those Christians as you seem to regard
yourself as qualified to comment on the state of my soul? How very
un-Christian of you.
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| User: "" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:52:18 AM |
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Ah. So, not only are you an anti-Semite, you're also anti-Christian.
I'm not an anti-Semite at all and I'd love you to point out where I
have said anything that would allow you to make such an assumption. >>>
You congratulated bobby fisher on his solid ideas. Bobby fisher's main
idea is that Jews are evil. You want the fleeting joy of finding a
fellow spirit who wants Bush arrested, then you have to take the
anti-Semitism that goes with it. I do find it interesting that you
find anti-Semitism to be worse than being anti-Fundamentalist
Christian. I guess that you believe bigotry is acceptable, as long as
it's against the right people.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to have
us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers? Please
site.
Nobody has the right to tell others how they must live. >>>>
Of course we do. We do it all the time. They're called "laws." Are
you against the concept of "law"?
You have a very ugly soul.
Do I suspect that you are one of those Christians as you seem to
regard yourself as qualified to comment on the state of my soul? >>>
Just judging you by your behavior.
How very un-Christian of you.>>>
"Oh, wow, man. (SUCK ON THE BONG) I'm reeeeaaaallllly fuckin' with his
head now, man. (SUCK ON THE BONG) I said that HE'S unchristian.
(CHILDISH CACKLE FOLLOWED BY SUCK ON THE BONG) That's REEEAAAalllllly
fuckin' with his head, man."
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| User: "Kel" |
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| Title: Re: Bobby Fisher says Bush should be hung |
28 Mar 2005 02:47:07 AM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111942338.095649.148260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Ah. So, not only are you an anti-Semite, you're also anti-Christian.
I'm not an anti-Semite at all and I'd love you to point out where I
have said anything that would allow you to make such an assumption. >>>
You congratulated bobby fisher on his solid ideas. Bobby fisher's main
idea is that Jews are evil. You want the fleeting joy of finding a
fellow spirit who wants Bush arrested, then you have to take the
anti-Semitism that goes with it.
No, I don't. Indeed, I didn't even agree with him when he said Bush should
be killed as I don't believe in the death penalty. I did agree with his
views regarding Bush's criminality, nothing more. And I certainly didn't
agree with his views regarding Jewish people as I made clear. It's not for
you to tell me what I have to accept from his argument.
I do find it interesting that you
find anti-Semitism to be worse than being anti-Fundamentalist
Christian. I guess that you believe bigotry is acceptable, as long as
it's against the right people.
I think one group of people petitioning TV stations and theatres etc., to
decide what we can and can't watch is forcing their views onto us. If they
don't agree with something they should switch channels or don't buy a
ticket. It's simple. I don't object to their God Channel, why should they
object at what the rest of us want to watch.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to have
us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
They're not returning the favour. They are trying to force the rest of us to
live within their narrow world.
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers? Please
site.
I regard George Bush as dangerously fundamentalist as I regard bin Laden.
And Bush has killed more innocents than bin Laden could ever dream of
killing. And worse, unlike the 3,000 killed and remembered on 9-11, Bush
doesn't even bother to count the number he kills.
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| User: "" |
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29 Mar 2005 04:30:14 PM |
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You congratulated bobby fisher on his solid ideas. Bobby fisher's
main
idea is that Jews are evil. You want the fleeting joy of finding a
fellow spirit who wants Bush arrested, then you have to take the
anti-Semitism that goes with it.
No, I don't. Indeed, I didn't even agree with him when he said Bush
should
be killed as I don't believe in the death penalty. I did agree with his
views regarding Bush's criminality, nothing more. And I certainly
didn't
agree with his views regarding Jewish people as I made clear. It's not
for
you to tell me what I have to accept from his argument.>>>
We call this the "say what you will about Hitler, he made the trains
run on time" defense. When a person calls for the death of an elected
official, they forfit the right to be considered a legitimate thinker.
How forgiving would you be of Rush had he stated: "...I don't even
agree with his blowing up Federal building, exactly. I would be
content simply arresting everyone in the building for treason. That
being said, you've got to admit that Tim McVeigh had some fine economic
ideas there."
I do find it interesting that you find anti-Semitism to be worse
than being anti-Fundamentalist Christian. I guess that you believe
bigotry is acceptable, as long as it's against the right people.>>>>
I think one group of people petitioning TV stations and theatres
etc., to
decide what we can and can't watch is forcing their views onto us.>>>
So, you're outraged by such groups who promote censorship? I've got a
little list:
Act Up is responsible for having Doctor Laura thrown off the air.
The Federal Teachers Union organized protests and destroyed Rush
Limbaugh's television show.
Three Democratic Presidential candidates called for Rush Limbaugh to be
fired after Rush suggested that McNabb was overpromoted because he was
black.
Al Gore has called for bloggers to be regulated by the Fed. He refers
to on-line conservatives a "cyber-brown shirts."
MOVEON.ORG has called to reinstate the "Hush Rush", which would
regulate who Rush would be allowed to have on his show, and what topics
he could discuss.
TAKE BACK THE MEDIA tried to have Rush's show banned.
Ed Asner bragged about being part of a cabal that "brought down" Rush
Limbaugh, and had Sean Hannity in their sights nes.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to
have us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
OK, so you admit that you're an anti-Christian bigot. Glad to hear you
being honest for a change. So, what are you prepare to do to end their
freedom of religion?
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
They're not returning the favour. They are trying to force the rest
of us to live within their narrow world.>>>
Really? They've made church attendance mandatory? Burned temples?
What, exactly, are you talking about?
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers?
Please
site.
I regard George Bush as dangerously fundamentalist as I regard bin
Laden.>>>
You didn't answer the question. Mudanmentalist Christs murdered three
thousand New Yorkers? Please site.
And Bush has killed more innocents than bin Laden could ever dream
of
killing. And worse, unlike the 3,000 killed and remembered on 9-11,
Bush
doesn't even bother to count the number he kills.>>>
The ONLY reason that the number of American casulaties have reached
four digits is because Bush ran as humane a war as possbile. He used
smart bombs to target buildings. He avoided populated areas. If Bush
is a muderer, than FDR is a far larger one.
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| User: "" |
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01 Apr 2005 10:37:53 AM |
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God, you're very quick to decide what rights people have forfeited.
I think you might be one of the religious nutters that I am referring
to.>>>
What rights am I denying anyone, other than the "right" to make death
threats against the president of the United States?
How forgiving would you be of Rush had he stated: "...I don't even
agree with his blowing up Federal building, exactly. I would be
content simply arresting everyone in the building for treason. That
being said, you've got to admit that Tim McVeigh had some fine economic
ideas there.">>>
We're not talking about Rush, stop putting up the strawman arguments
so that you can blow them down.>>>
That is not a strawman argument, but a fair question. Had Rush made
the above statement, you'd be calling for his blood. But since it was
made by someone you like, you're willing to give them a pass.
I agreed that Bush was, in my view, a war criminal and made clear
that I did not agree with the guys on comments concerning death or
Judaism.>>>
Tell me, do you believe that the Israeli's are a bunch of war
criminals, too?
I do find it interesting that you find anti-Semitism to be worse
than being anti-Fundamentalist Christian. I guess that you believe
bigotry is acceptable, as long as it's against the right people.>>>>
I think one group of people petitioning TV stations and theatres
etc., to
decide what we can and can't watch is forcing their views onto us.>>>
So, you're outraged by such groups who promote censorship? I've got
a
little list:
Act Up is responsible for having Doctor Laura thrown off the air.
The Federal Teachers Union organized protests and destroyed Rush
Limbaugh's television show.
Three Democratic Presidential candidates called for Rush Limbaugh to
be
fired after Rush suggested that McNabb was overpromoted because he
was
black.
Al Gore has called for bloggers to be regulated by the Fed. He
refers
to on-line conservatives a "cyber-brown shirts."
MOVEON.ORG has called to reinstate the "Hush Rush", which would
regulate who Rush would be allowed to have on his show, and what
topics
he could discuss.
TAKE BACK THE MEDIA tried to have Rush's show banned.
Ed Asner bragged about being part of a cabal that "brought down" Rush
Limbaugh, and had Sean Hannity in their sights nes.
I'm sure many of the above would argue that they believe the media
should be neutral and without bias.>>>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. ACT UP believes in a media that's neutral and without
bias? What, exactly, does that even mean, other than statements which
you agree?
That's not the same as saying only TV programmes
that conform to your moral values should be allowed to be aired.>>>
No, you just want TV programs that conform to YOUR moral values be
allowed on the air.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to
have us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
OK, so you admit that you're an anti-Christian bigot. Glad to hear
you
being honest for a change.
I've never been dishonest. I was brought up a Catholic, that's
enough to turn you against ALL organised religions.>>>
You do know, of course, that the bloodiest religion in history, by a
factor of about a hundred, are the Atheists, don't you?
So, what are you prepare to do to end their
freedom of religion?
I have never said I wanted to do anything to "end their freedom of
religion". That's ANOTHER strawman attack. I simply want them to live
the way they want and allow the rest of us to do the same.>>>>
And what if part of the way they want to live is to work to change the
system, and help elect politicians they like, and pass laws which
conform to their religious beliefs? What then?
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
They're not returning the favour. They are trying to force the rest
of us to live within their narrow world.>>>
Really? They've made church attendance mandatory? Burned temples?
What, exactly, are you talking about?
I've already explained that. They try to influence what we can
watch, amongst other things.>>>
And as I've explained before, the liberals play that game far more
often, and far more effectively.
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers?
Please
site.
I regard George Bush as dangerously fundamentalist as I regard bin
Laden.>>>
You didn't answer the question. Mudanmentalist Christs murdered
three
thousand New Yorkers? Please site.
ANOTHER strawman!! When did I say that Fundamentalist Christians
murdered 3,000 New Yorkers? I said I loath them for the same reasons
that I loath bin Laden.>>>>
Either you're claiming that bin Laden had nothing to do with the
bombing, or that the 3000 deaths didn't bother you all that much.
Which is it?
Namely, they are ideologues who want us all to live within their
religious beliefs.>>>
So, in your mind, Jerry Falwell campaigning to have Penthouse Magazine
sold under the counter of 7/11 is identical to bin Laden bombing the
World Trade Center?
And Bush has killed more innocents than bin Laden could ever dream
of
killing. And worse, unlike the 3,000 killed and remembered on 9-11,
Bush
doesn't even bother to count the number he kills.>>>
The ONLY reason that the number of American casulaties have reached
four digits is because Bush ran as humane a war as possbile. He used
smart bombs to target buildings. He avoided populated areas. If
Bush
is a muderer, than FDR is a far larger one.
Hahahahahahahahahahah! You're an insane person. >>>
Hey, babe, you're the one denying a historical fact.
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| User: "Kel" |
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01 Apr 2005 12:02:19 PM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
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God, you're very quick to decide what rights people have forfeited.
I think you might be one of the religious nutters that I am referring
to.>>>
What rights am I denying anyone, other than the "right" to make death
threats against the president of the United States?
You've cut out the part where you talk of people forfeiting their rights? I
can't be bothered to go into the sent items and look up what rights you were
speaking of. It was you who said they'd forfeited them. You look it up.
And he didn't make a death threat. He said Bush should be arrested as a war
criminal and sent to the death chamber, or words to that effect. That's
something he said he'd like to see happen, he didn't say he planned to do it
himself.
How forgiving would you be of Rush had he stated: "...I don't even
agree with his blowing up Federal building, exactly. I would be
content simply arresting everyone in the building for treason. That
being said, you've got to admit that Tim McVeigh had some fine economic
ideas there.">>>
We're not talking about Rush, stop putting up the strawman arguments
so that you can blow them down.>>>
That is not a strawman argument, but a fair question. Had Rush made
the above statement, you'd be calling for his blood. But since it was
made by someone you like, you're willing to give them a pass.
That's not a good analogy. If Rush had called for Bush's arrest I would have
fainted then backed him. You are trying to make out that I am only agreeing
with the sentiment because I back the speaker. The truth is I know very
little about the speaker. I simply said that I agreed with him that Bush was
a war criminal.
I'm a Labour Party supporter but I don't think every word Blair says is
right nor do I think that every word Bush says is garbage.
However, I do regard Rush as a lunatic.
I agreed that Bush was, in my view, a war criminal and made clear
that I did not agree with the guys on comments concerning death or
Judaism.>>>
Tell me, do you believe that the Israeli's are a bunch of war
criminals, too?
Some of them are, yes. Especially Sharon for his disgraceful behaviour
surrounding the events at Sabra and Shatilla. And there are several brave
young Israelis who refuse to serve in the West Bank and Gaza because they
are morally repulsed by Israels behaviour there.
I donate money to them. You can too by clicking this link.
http://www.seruv.org.il/defaulteng.asp
I do find it interesting that you find anti-Semitism to be worse
than being anti-Fundamentalist Christian. I guess that you believe
bigotry is acceptable, as long as it's against the right people.>>>>
I think one group of people petitioning TV stations and theatres
etc., to
decide what we can and can't watch is forcing their views onto us.>>>
So, you're outraged by such groups who promote censorship? I've got
a
little list:
Act Up is responsible for having Doctor Laura thrown off the air.
The Federal Teachers Union organized protests and destroyed Rush
Limbaugh's television show.
Three Democratic Presidential candidates called for Rush Limbaugh to
be
fired after Rush suggested that McNabb was overpromoted because he
was
black.
Al Gore has called for bloggers to be regulated by the Fed. He
refers
to on-line conservatives a "cyber-brown shirts."
MOVEON.ORG has called to reinstate the "Hush Rush", which would
regulate who Rush would be allowed to have on his show, and what
topics
he could discuss.
TAKE BACK THE MEDIA tried to have Rush's show banned.
Ed Asner bragged about being part of a cabal that "brought down" Rush
Limbaugh, and had Sean Hannity in their sights nes.
I'm sure many of the above would argue that they believe the media
should be neutral and without bias.>>>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. ACT UP believes in a media that's neutral and without
bias? What, exactly, does that even mean, other than statements which
you agree?
You can hardly say that people like Rush Limbaugh are without bias. I've
watched that horrible man O'Reilly on TV saying things that are simply
abhorent like, "If Barbara Streisand doesn't support the war we reserve the
right not to buy her records".
The idea of anyone on British TV being allowed to be so blatantly one sided
would result in their instant dismissal.
I've watched Fox News and can honestly say it's the worst thing I've ever
seen in my life. It's not news, it's opinion masquarading as news. And it's
one of the few channels where it has been proved that if you watch Fox News
you are much more likely to believe things that are demonstrably untrue.
Like Iraq had WMD. If you watch Fox News you are five times more likely to
believe that WMD were found. That's some going for a "news" channel! Make
people ignorant because you are pushing one side of a poitical debate rather
than actually giving people the news.
That's not the same as saying only TV programmes
that conform to your moral values should be allowed to be aired.>>>
No, you just want TV programs that conform to YOUR moral values be
allowed on the air.
Listen, I was once asked to sign a petition to ban the BNP from marching in
my town and I refused. I despise the BNP but ALL ideas must circulate freely
not just my own or opinions that I agree with.
I have never called for any programme to be banned, not even Fox News. If
you're dumb enough to watch it and believe it, knock yourself out with it.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to
have us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
OK, so you admit that you're an anti-Christian bigot. Glad to hear
you
being honest for a change.
I've never been dishonest. I was brought up a Catholic, that's
enough to turn you against ALL organised religions.>>>
You do know, of course, that the bloodiest religion in history, by a
factor of about a hundred, are the Atheists, don't you?
Atheism isn't a religion.
So, what are you prepare to do to end their
freedom of religion?
I have never said I wanted to do anything to "end their freedom of
religion". That's ANOTHER strawman attack. I simply want them to live
the way they want and allow the rest of us to do the same.>>>>
And what if part of the way they want to live is to work to change the
system, and help elect politicians they like, and pass laws which
conform to their religious beliefs? What then?
They're entitled to do that. In fact, in the US I believe that's known as
the Republican Party.
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
They're not returning the favour. They are trying to force the rest
of us to live within their narrow world.>>>
Really? They've made church attendance mandatory? Burned temples?
What, exactly, are you talking about?
I've already explained that. They try to influence what we can
watch, amongst other things.>>>
And as I've explained before, the liberals play that game far more
often, and far more effectively.
Nonsense. Is Rush off air? No, but a tour of Jerry Springer the Musical has
been pulled here in Britain because of right wing Christian complaints. Tell
me how many programmes the Liberals have had pulled from the networks then?
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers?
Please
site.
I regard George Bush as dangerously fundamentalist as I regard bin
Laden.>>>
You didn't answer the question. Mudanmentalist Christs murdered
three
thousand New Yorkers? Please site.
ANOTHER strawman!! When did I say that Fundamentalist Christians
murdered 3,000 New Yorkers? I said I loath them for the same reasons
that I loath bin Laden.>>>>
Either you're claiming that bin Laden had nothing to do with the
bombing, or that the 3000 deaths didn't bother you all that much.
Why do you keep trying to frame what I am saying into (a) or (b) false
choices? I think bin Laden did it and the three thousand deaths bothered me
enormously. However, as I have previously said, Bush has killed many more
innocents than bin Laden. And worse, he doesn't care enough to even be
bothered to count the dead. Some Christian.
Which is it?
Namely, they are ideologues who want us all to live within their
religious beliefs.>>>
So, in your mind, Jerry Falwell campaigning to have Penthouse Magazine
sold under the counter of 7/11 is identical to bin Laden bombing the
World Trade Center?
No, that's not remotely the same. However, Bush saying that God told him to
invade Iraq is proof that he's from a similar brand of religious extremism
as bin Laden.
And Bush has killed more innocents than bin Laden could ever dream
of
killing. And worse, unlike the 3,000 killed and remembered on 9-11,
Bush
doesn't even bother to count the number he kills.>>>
The ONLY reason that the number of American casulaties have reached
four digits is because Bush ran as humane a war as possbile. He used
smart bombs to target buildings. He avoided populated areas. If
Bush
is a muderer, than FDR is a far larger one.
Hahahahahahahahahahah! You're an insane person. >>>
Hey, babe, you're the one denying a historical fact.
What historical fact am I denying, "babe"?
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God, you're very quick to decide what rights people have forfeited.
I think you might be one of the religious nutters that I am referring
to.>>>
What rights am I denying anyone, other than the "right" to make death
threats against the president of the United States?
You've cut out the part where you talk of people forfeiting their
rights?>>>.
What rights have I called to be forfit?
I can't be bothered to go into the sent items and look up what rights
you were speaking of. It was you who said they'd forfeited them. You
look it up.>>>
Ok, that's the game you like to play. You accuse me of something
that's simply not true, then order me to look up the non-existant
event.
And he didn't make a death threat. He said Bush should be arrested
as a war criminal and sent to the death chamber, or words to that
effect. That's something he said he'd like to see happen, he didn't say
he planned to do it himself.>>>>
So, if people talked about having your mum arrested and put in the
death chamber, you'd be ok with that?
How forgiving would you be of Rush had he stated: "...I don't
even agree with his blowing up Federal building, exactly. I would be
content simply arresting everyone in the building for treason. That
being said, you've got to admit that Tim McVeigh had some fine economic
ideas there.">>>
We're not talking about Rush, stop putting up the strawman
arguments so that you can blow them down.>>>
I take it that a "strawman" argument is anyone that you can't answer.
Had Rush made the above statement, you'd be calling for his blood.
But since it was made by someone you like, you're willing to give them
a pass.
That's not a good analogy. If Rush had called for Bush's arrest I
would have fainted then backed him. You are trying to make out that I
am only agreeing with the sentiment because I back the speaker. >>>>
Not at all. I'm saying that you apply impossibly high standards to
people you disagree with, while giving a pass to like-minded people. I
have no problem with the idea that if Rush were to start spouting your
brand of bigoted nonsense, you would embrace him.
The truth is I know very little about the speaker. I simply said
that I agreed with him that Bush was a war criminal.>>>
Well, now you know that you're in agreement with an insane racist.
Proud of yourself?
However, I do regard Rush as a lunatic.>>>
What is it about liberals, and their belief that disagreeing with them
is a sign of mental illness?
I agreed that Bush was, in my view, a war criminal and made clear
that I did not agree with the guys on comments concerning death or
Judaism.>>>
Tell me, do you believe that the Israeli's are a bunch of war
criminals, too?>>>
Some of them are, yes. >>>
So, should we set up some death camps for the "bad" Jews? You know,
the one's who are too "Jew-y?" Should we throw in the Christians,
too? Not all the Christians, of course, just the lunatics who are
trying to steal away your rights?
I'm sure many of the above would argue that they believe the media
should be neutral and without bias.>>>
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH. ACT UP believes in a media that's neutral and
without bias? What, exactly, does that even mean, other than
statements which you agree?>>>
You can hardly say that people like Rush Limbaugh are without
bias.>>>
If you mean partisan, sure, he's partisan as hell. What's wrong with
that? In America, we have a First Amendment. He can say whatever the
Hell he wants. You want the president of the United States shot - who
are you to lecture against partisan political discussion?
I've watched that horrible man O'Reilly on TV saying things that are
simply abhorent like, "If Barbara Streisand doesn't support the war we
reserve the right not to buy her records".>>>
And if you don't like what Bill O'Reilly says, then you reserve the
right not to buy his books. Where's the problem?
The idea of anyone on British TV being allowed to be so blatantly
one sided would result in their instant dismissal.>>>
Greg *****, head of the BBC, WAS fired. Not for being one-sided (the
BBC takes pride in their one-sidedness) but for actively forging
"evidence" in a story.
I've watched Fox News and can honestly say it's the worst thing I've
ever seen in my life. >>>>
But then, you have no tolerance for ideas other than your own.
It's not news, it's opinion masquarading as news.>>>
No, it's news and opinion, and what's wrong with that? M. L. Mencken
did the exact same thing while covering the Scopes Monkey Trial. Say
what you will about Bill O'Reilly - you know exactly what you're
getting with the man. He doesn't pretend to be even handed and fair.
The BBC, OTOH, is opinon masquarading as news. You have soft-spoken
people in expensive suits, looking quite respectable and serious, lying
to you. Now, THAT'S dangerous.
And it's one of the few channels where it has been proved that if
you watch Fox News you are much more likely to believe things that are
demonstrably untrue. Like Iraq had WMD. >>>
So, it's "demonstrably untrue" that Iraq had WMD? That must have been
quite a shock to the tens of thousands of Iraqi's who died when Saddam
used WMD on them. You do know that Saddam openly bragged about having
WMD, don't you? The only reason he doesn't have nukes today is because
Israel bombed his nuke plants?
If you watch Fox News you are five times more likely to
believe that WMD were found.>>>
There has been WMD found. Not a lot, but they're there.
That's some going for a "news" channel! Make people ignorant because
you are pushing one side of a poitical debate rather than actually
giving people the news.>>>>
I'll take FOX over the BBC any day of the week. The BBC, when Ronald
Reagan died, never bothered to mention his role in the fall of the
Soviet Union. They treated him as a failed "B" actor who got lucky.
The British Jews have accused the BBC of stiring up anti-semitism and
violence. The BBC forged photographs of soliders torturing prisoners
in Iraq. After the Hutton report exposed Bush Bash Central as the
fraud it way, Greg ***** (former head of BBC) was fired.
That's not the same as saying only TV programmes
that conform to your moral values should be allowed to be aired.>>>
No, you just want TV programs that conform to YOUR moral values be
allowed on the air.>>>>
Listen, I was once asked to sign a petition to ban the BNP from
marching in my town and I refused. I despise the BNP but ALL ideas must
circulate freely not just my own or opinions that I agree with.>>>
Of course you refused to sign a petition to ban the BNP. You support
anti-semites like Fisher; you don't believe that Christians should be
allowed to have impute in laws being written; and you think that Bush
is a war criminal. Sounds to me that the BNP would embrace you with
open sheets.
I have never called for any programme to be banned, not even Fox
News. If you're dumb enough to watch it and believe it, knock yourself
out with it.>>>>
No, you just support facists who WHO want to shut down television
shows. How convenient.
I do loath Christian Fundamentalists who continually attempt to
have us all live according to their beliefs. >>>
You DO know, of course, that "Fundamentalist Christians" doesn't mean
"nutty Christians" - it's an actual branch of Christianity. Indeed,
there are liberal fundamentalists.
OK, so you admit that you're an anti-Christian bigot. Glad to hear
you being honest for a change.>>>
I've never been dishonest. I was brought up a Catholic, that's
enough to turn you against ALL organised religions.>>>
You do know, of course, that the bloodiest religion in history, by a
factor of about a hundred, are the Atheists, don't you?
Atheism isn't a religion.>>>>
Call Athesim whatever you like. It's a belief, and followers of that
belief slaughtered over a hundred million souls in the 20th Century
alone. Pick up a copy of "The Black Book of Communism", and see how
much damage your buddies unleashed.
So, what are you prepare to do to end their
freedom of religion?
I have never said I wanted to do anything to "end their freedom of
religion". That's ANOTHER strawman attack.>>>
I simply want them to live the way they want and allow the rest of
us to do the same.>>>>
And what if part of the way they want to live is to work to change
the system, and help elect politicians they like, and pass laws which
conform to their religious beliefs? What then?
They're entitled to do that. In fact, in the US I believe that's
known as the Republican Party.>>>
I thought that you "...loath(ed) Christian Fundamentalists who
continually attempt to have us all live according to their beliefs."
Now you admit that they have the right to do exactly that?
Why? You want Christian Fundamentalists to live according to your
beliefs, why can't they return the favor?
They're not returning the favour. They are trying to force the
rest of us to live within their narrow world.>>>
Really? They've made church attendance mandatory? Burned temples?
What, exactly, are you talking about?
I've already explained that. They try to influence what we can
watch, amongst other things.>>>
And as I've explained before, the liberals play that game far more
often, and far more effectively.>>>
Nonsense. Is Rush off air?>>>>
His television show is.
No, but a tour of Jerry Springer the Musical has
been pulled here in Britain because of right wing Christian
complaints.>>>>
And the fact that it was broadcast on the BBC had nothing to do with
show's less than spectauclar sales?
Tell me how many programmes the Liberals have had pulled from the
networks then?>>>
Doctor Laura's show was pulled off the air.
Rush Limbaugh, ditto.
Judge Bork has been chased off several campuses.
Larry Elder's radio show was kicked off the air, until a groundswell
brought it back on again.
Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. was threatened with retaliation
by US Senators when they announced the broadcast of the
documentary "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal".
John Kerry ordered copies of "Unfit For Command" to be recalled by
the publisher and burned. Literally.
BTW, Jerry Springer,
That's just off the top of my head. I can produce thousand of other
examples.
I loath such lunatics for the exact same reasons as I loath bin
Laden. >>>
Fundamentalist Christians murdered three thousand New Yorkers?
Please
site.
I regard George Bush as dangerously fundamentalist as I regard bin
Laden.>>>
You didn't answer the question. Fundamentalist Christs murdered
three thousand New Yorkers? Please site.
ANOTHER strawman!! When did I say that Fundamentalist Christians
murdered 3,000 New Yorkers? I said I loath them for the same reasons
that I loath bin Laden.>>>>
Either you're claiming that bin Laden had nothing to do with the
bombing, or that the 3000 deaths didn't bother you all that much.>>>
Why do you keep trying to frame what I am saying into (a) or (b)
false choices?>>>>
If you feel what I said is unfair, then explain why. Are you saying
that bin Laden's belief in God is more odious than his murdering ways?
You're not having a conversation with like-minded people here. You
have to explain what you mean.
I think bin Laden did it and the three thousand deaths bothered me
enormously. However, as I have previously said, Bush has killed many
more innocents than bin Laden. >>>
That, of course, is a lie. The actual number of caualaties in the Iraq
war is about 14,000 - the vast majority were Saddams thugs.
But then, you're a liar, aren't you?
Which is it?
Namely, they are ideologues who want us all to live within their
religious beliefs.>>>
So, in your mind, Jerry Falwell campaigning to have Penthouse
Magazine sold under the counter of 7/11 is identical to bin Laden
bombing the World Trade Center?
No, that's not remotely the same.>>>
So who are the "ideologues" who want to impose their religious
beliefs on others? Don't be vague - name names. What the hell are
you talking about?
However, Bush saying that God told him to invade Iraq is proof
that he's from a similar brand of religious extremism as>>>
The difference, and this is key, is that after Bush invaded
Afghanistan, the population were liberated. Little girls were allowed
to go to school. Female doctors were allowed to practice medicine.
And you are too bitter and short-sighted to see what a wonderful thing
has happened.
And Bush has killed more innocents than bin Laden could ever dream
of killing>>>
You are a liar.
The ONLY reason that the number of American casulaties have reached
four digits is because Bush ran as humane a war as possbile. He
used smart bombs to target buildings. He avoided populated areas. If
Bush is a muderer, than FDR is a far larger one.>>>
Hahahahahahahahahahah! You're an insane person. >>>
Hey, babe, you're the one denying a historical fact.>>>
What historical fact am I denying, "babe"?>>>
That President Bush used smart bombs to target military sites, while
bypassing civilians. He did so at the cost of American lives.
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30 Mar 2005 07:01:16 AM |
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Meat and coats are hung. Men are hanged.
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24 Mar 2005 01:45:01 PM |
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wrote:
According to the article, bobby's big crime is that he played an
"illegal" chess match in 1992 for which he could be imprisoned for 10
years!!! >>>
Did you actually read the article about this lunatic?
"As he walked toward the airport entrance, he turned, unzipped his
pants and acted like he was going to urinate on the wall. He called
Japan's
ruling party 'gangsters,' and said he was being hounded by the
United States because it is 'Jew-controlled.'"
You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.
No one said he's a hero. But he's got some good stuff to say and he
sure as hell ain't as nuts as that mass-murdering psycopath bush.
BTW - saying bush should be hung is kind of like threatening the prez
which makes it a risky thing to say. He should have said convicted of
treason and hung, so it's all legal.
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| User: "Kel" |
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26 Mar 2005 03:30:29 AM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111763696.109790.20360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Do you think it's right that he should have been put in his present
position because he played a fucking chess match?>>
Of course not. He should be in his present condition because he broke
a federal law, and then ran from justice.
I admit I've only been following the case for the past few days, but I was
under the impression that he's in trouble because he played a chess match.
What federal law is he supposed to have broken?
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26 Mar 2005 09:59:13 AM |
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Of course not. He should be in his present condition because he
broke
a federal law, and then ran from justice.
I admit I've only been following the case for the past few days, but
I was
under the impression that he's in trouble because he played a chess
match.
What federal law is he supposed to have broken? >>>
When the Russians invaded Afghanistan, Jimmy Carter made it illegal for
Americans to travel to some soviet block countries. Yugoslavia was one
such country. However, Yugoslavia offered Bobby Fisher 3.4 million
dollars to play chess in their country, an offer Bobby accepted. He
broke the law in exchange for a fat paycheck. Instead of returning to
America and facing the music, he fled, becoming a fugitive from the
law, making his situation a hundred times worse.
Had he returned and taken his medicine, Fisher almost certainly would
have been given a slap on the wrists, a stern warning, and a fat bank
roll. However, the guy is a nut - he hasn't helped his situation by
calling for the execution of the President of the United States, or
talking about the "Jews controlling the United States".
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| User: "Kel" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:12:47 AM |
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<bvallely@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1111852753.646745.232560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Of course not. He should be in his present condition because he
broke
a federal law, and then ran from justice.
I admit I've only been following the case for the past few days, but
I was
under the impression that he's in trouble because he played a chess
match.
What federal law is he supposed to have broken? >>>
When the Russians invaded Afghanistan, Jimmy Carter made it illegal for
Americans to travel to some soviet block countries. Yugoslavia was one
such country. However, Yugoslavia offered Bobby Fisher 3.4 million
dollars to play chess in their country, an offer Bobby accepted. He
broke the law in exchange for a fat paycheck. Instead of returning to
America and facing the music, he fled, becoming a fugitive from the
law, making his situation a hundred times worse.
So it was for playing that chess game.
Had he returned and taken his medicine, Fisher almost certainly would
have been given a slap on the wrists, a stern warning, and a fat bank
roll.
You don't know that.
However, the guy is a nut - he hasn't helped his situation by
calling for the execution of the President of the United States, or
talking about the "Jews controlling the United States".
I agree with his comments that Bush is a war criminal as is Blair.
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| User: "" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:56:05 AM |
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Yugoslavia was one such country. However, Yugoslavia offered Bobby
Fisher 3.4 million dollars to play chess in their country, an offer
Bobby accepted. He broke the law in exchange for a fat paycheck.
Instead of returning to America and facing the music, he fled, becoming
a fugitive from the law, making his situation a hundred times
worse.>>>
So it was for playing that chess game.>>>
In the sense that a person who breaks into your house while your on
vacation, lives there and watches TV is arrested for watching TV.
Had he returned and taken his medicine, Fisher almost certainly would
have been given a slap on the wrists, a stern warning, and a fat bank
roll.>>>
You don't know that.>>>
I know that's almost always the way they handle these situations.
Especially when the crimes are committed by rich, famous, people.
However, the guy is a nut - he hasn't helped his situation by
calling for the execution of the President of the United States, or
talking about the "Jews controlling the United States".>>>
I agree with his comments that Bush is a war criminal as is Blair.
Of course you agree with fisher. You're a nut.
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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26 Mar 2005 10:44:42 AM |
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wrote:
Of course not. He should be in his present condition because he
broke
a federal law, and then ran from justice.
I admit I've only been following the case for the past few days,
but
I was
under the impression that he's in trouble because he played a chess
match.
What federal law is he supposed to have broken? >>>
When the Russians invaded Afghanistan, Jimmy Carter made it illegal
for
Americans to travel to some soviet block countries. Yugoslavia was
one
such country. However, Yugoslavia offered Bobby Fisher 3.4 million
dollars to play chess in their country, an offer Bobby accepted. He
broke the law in exchange for a fat paycheck. Instead of returning
to
America and facing the music, he fled, becoming a fugitive from the
law, making his situation a hundred times worse.
Oh get serious. By 1992, the USSR didn't even exist and this silly law,
if it was still on the books, was never enforced. It was a trumped up
charge courtesy of bush41.
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2005 10:02:56 AM |
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BTW - saying bush should be hung is kind of like threatening the prez
which makes it a risky thing to say. He should have said convicted of
treason and hung, so it's all legal.
Where do I vote?
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26 Mar 2005 04:17:56 PM |
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wrote:
BTW - saying bush should be hung is kind of like threatening the prez
which makes it a risky thing to say. He should have said convicted of
treason and hung, so it's all legal.
Where do I vote?
http://www.secretservice.gov/
Be sure to tell them how much you hate the POTUS and
want him dead.
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| User: "" |
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24 Mar 2005 07:45:41 PM |
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You want this lunatic to be your hero? You got him.>>>
No one said he's a hero. But he's got some good stuff to say and he
sure as hell ain't as nuts as that mass-murdering psycopath bush.>>>
Is there anything about you that doesn't reek of cowardice? "No one
said he's a hero. But he's got some good stuff to day..." If you
think that the Jew control the US, then say so - but don't do so from
the safety of "no one said he's a hero. But.."
BTW - saying bush should be hung is kind of like threatening the
prez which makes it a risky thing to say. He should have said convicted
of treason and hung, so it's all legal. >>>
Hey, Fisher may be a nut, but he's an honest nut. You're just a coward.
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25 Mar 2005 06:59:32 PM |
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Bush is already well hung, just ask Jeff Gannon.
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2005 06:29:18 AM |
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Bush is already well hung, just ask Jeff Gannon.
Gannon is not a very good liar.... he would say anything to make
himself look good... I suspect his prices for Gay services have gone
up.
If Bush had a very small penis that might explain one of the inputs
into his many psychosies.
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2005 09:51:05 AM |
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Bush is already well hung, just ask Jeff Gannon.>>>
When liberals have nothing to say, they scream "*****".
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26 Mar 2005 06:06:18 PM |
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wrote:
Bush is already well hung, just ask Jeff Gannon.>>>
When liberals have nothing to say, they scream "*****".
You misspelled "hypocrite" again, Vallely.
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26 Mar 2005 08:40:36 PM |
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Bush is already well hung, just ask Jeff Gannon.>>>
When liberals have nothing to say, they scream "*****".
You misspelled "hypocrite" again, Vallely. >>>
You pretend to stand up for gay rights, yet scream "*****" to anyone
who disagrees with you.
Who, exactly, is the hypocrite?
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