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User: "Stan Pierce"
Date: 28 Jan 2006 04:12:34 PM
Object: Britain's Mental Decline
60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual Labour
remedy...throw money at the disease.
No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds. It's
African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get entrapped in
the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They never
improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960. People
used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2004099_2,00.html
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User: "Ralph"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 28 Jan 2006 06:09:44 PM
"Stan Pierce" <ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds. It's
African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get entrapped

in

the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They never
improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960.

People

used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.

Ok, you have proving beyond a doubt that you're a total idiot. What do you
plan for an encore?
How do you explain your obvious mental deficiencies since all you listen to
is Lawrence Welk?
.

User: "Casper"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 28 Jan 2006 06:12:51 PM
Stan Pierce
wrote:
My name is Stan Pierce and I am a fucking imbecile.
.

User: "-db-"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 02:22:07 AM
Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual Labour
remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds. It's
African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get entrapped in
the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They never
improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960. People
used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.

Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of
simple rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as
much as a good solid dose of Wagner in the morning.
Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music
such as John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas
might do the trick in rescuing society.
cheers
-db-
.
User: "Stan Pierce"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 03:12:06 AM
"-db-" <widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote in message
news:PW_Cf.230181$V7.226886@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual Labour
remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds. It's
African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get entrapped in
the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They never
improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960. People
used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of simple
rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as much as a good
solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music such as
John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas might do the
trick in rescuing society.

cheers
-db-

I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958. I
owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.
Over the years I could see the decline of Western music in influencing youth,
whereas the influence of Rock-n-Roll increased it's influence upon them.
Rock-n-Roll requires no teaching to appreciate it. No effort is required.
Even very young children are drawn to it.
Once they are exposed to it they rarely transfer the interest to Western
Classical music as they grow older. You actually need parents who are
Classically minded to pass on the interest in Classical music BEFORE exposure to
popular music. It doesn't happen otherwise. The consequences of Rock-n-Roll on
education have been disastrous.
There is, and it was evident even in 1960, a connection between the people who
listen to Rock-n Roll and the level of the lack achievement in education. The
white British people have, since 1960, levelled off to what the African people
in the UK achieve in education. I was commenting on the waste of money and
cynicism of British politicians to throw money at what they think is an
educational problem that *isn't * an educational problem. It's a cultural
problem. No teacher can solve it. They are defeated before they start.
Spending billions on teachers will not put the neurons in place to learn once
they have been scrambled by noise. That's what I'm saying. And I'm saying
that I observed it in 1958. It may be theoretically possible for * some*
individuals to break the Africanisation of their minds once they are afflicted
but I have never seen it happen within my lifetime. It does of course always
remain a possibility. It's your tax money they spending to prove me wrong.
.
User: "infidel"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 03:17:36 PM
"Stan Pierce" <ecreipt@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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"-db-" <widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote in message
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Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual

Labour

remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds.

It's

African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get

entrapped in

the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They

never

improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960.

People

used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of

simple

rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as much as

a good

solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music

such as

John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas might do

the

trick in rescuing society.

cheers
-db-


I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958.

I

owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.

Over the years I could see the decline of Western music in influencing

youth,

whereas the influence of Rock-n-Roll increased it's influence upon them.
Rock-n-Roll requires no teaching to appreciate it. No effort is

required.

Even very young children are drawn to it.
Once they are exposed to it they rarely transfer the interest to Western
Classical music as they grow older. You actually need parents who are
Classically minded to pass on the interest in Classical music BEFORE

exposure to

popular music. It doesn't happen otherwise. The consequences of

Rock-n-Roll on

education have been disastrous.

There is, and it was evident even in 1960, a connection between the

people who

listen to Rock-n Roll and the level of the lack achievement in education.

The

white British people have, since 1960, levelled off to what the African

people

in the UK achieve in education. I was commenting on the waste of money

and

cynicism of British politicians to throw money at what they think is an
educational problem that *isn't * an educational problem. It's a

cultural

problem. No teacher can solve it. They are defeated before they start.

Spending billions on teachers will not put the neurons in place to learn

once

they have been scrambled by noise. That's what I'm saying. And I'm

saying

that I observed it in 1958. It may be theoretically possible for *

some*

individuals to break the Africanisation of their minds once they are

afflicted

but I have never seen it happen within my lifetime. It does of course

always

remain a possibility. It's your tax money they spending to prove me

wrong.


Hey Stan,
I loved rock-n-Roll from about '57 to about '60.
Studying was great listening R+R
In '59 I went to uni and had 1 valve radio that I built complete with army
surplus headphones, so I could listen without disturbing the 3 others in our
room while studying.
My uni results were very good.
Some uni mates, who also liked R+R, introduced me to classical music.
Well you can guess the rest.
I'm have a post graduate degree with some years of working in the sheltered
workshop of academia, and many years reasearch with Gov Instrumentalities.
I'm now retired.
My neurons I don't think were affected by R+R. ;-)
I still listen to the R+R of those years, with some degree of nostalgia and
the feeling of pleasure it gave me.
All the best with your theses.
infidel
--
FA
I.
.
User: "Stan Pierce"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 04:10:52 PM
"infidel" <infi@bigpong.con> wrote in message
news:QhaDf.230506$V7.35301@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Hey Stan,
I loved rock-n-Roll from about '57 to about '60.
Studying was great listening R+R
In '59 I went to uni and had 1 valve radio that I built complete with army
surplus headphones, so I could listen without disturbing the 3 others in our
room while studying.
My uni results were very good.
Some uni mates, who also liked R+R, introduced me to classical music.
Well you can guess the rest.
I'm have a post graduate degree with some years of working in the sheltered
workshop of academia, and many years reasearch with Gov Instrumentalities.
I'm now retired.
My neurons I don't think were affected by R+R. ;-)
I still listen to the R+R of those years, with some degree of nostalgia and
the feeling of pleasure it gave me.
All the best with your theses.
infidel
--
FA
I.

Glad to see you evolved. Some do of course...the effect is not a scientific
certainty. But the curse is only too obvious if you are old enough to know
what life was before the mania started.
I also have the shame of once being party to the beginnings of Rock-n-Roll in
the UK...in Liverpool of all places. I accidentally created a nursery for them
to developed their 'talents'. I don't even have the excuse of ' Lord, I know
not what I do'.
I have no doubts about the corrosive effect on most youth and the total waste of
education money once they are afflicted. If children could be isolated from
it's noise until the age of about 10 or 12 I'm certain that the education
problems with attention span and retention would virtually disappear.
Some intelligent parents of course do this by private tuition or being
selective about the schools their children attend. Jewish people for instance
make ALL of their children study a musical instrument early. That keeps them
away from the street kids influence simply because you have to practice so much.
I have always believed this is the key to Jewish IQ being higher than the
average. I have never heard of Jewish youth being dunces at school. It's the
Mozart effect on Mind before the commercial onslaught has it's effect.
.


User: "John Gordon"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 09:39:42 AM
Stan Pierce
wrote:

I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958.
I owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.

Bull *****, given your estimated age in 1958, you were probably a waiter or
worked hat check.
.

User: "Addinall"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 05:00:31 AM
Stan Pierce wrote:

"-db-" <widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote in message
news:PW_Cf.230181$V7.226886@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual Labour
remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds. It's
African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get entrapped in
the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They never
improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960. People
used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed in
time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of simple
rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as much as a good
solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music such as
John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas might do the
trick in rescuing society.

cheers
-db-


I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958. I
owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.

Jeez, that must have been a "happening" place. What with a humourless
boring fucking twat like you running it.


Over the years I could see the decline of Western music in influencing youth,
whereas the influence of Rock-n-Roll increased it's influence upon them.
Rock-n-Roll requires no teaching to appreciate it. No effort is required.
Even very young children are drawn to it.
Once they are exposed to it they rarely transfer the interest to Western
Classical music as they grow older. You actually need parents who are
Classically minded to pass on the interest in Classical music BEFORE exposure to
popular music. It doesn't happen otherwise. The consequences of Rock-n-Roll on
education have been disastrous.

Crap. My old Mum was an Elvis freak. I hated the stuff, but it got
played
around the house. Then came my plank, and with it Deep Purple and
the Who to emulate.
Now I like this mob...
http://www.skinnyfishmusic.com.au/contemporary/yugul.html
And this mob...
http://www.peoplesound.com/artist/bostonchambermusicsociety
[usual rant snipped]


Spending billions on teachers will not put the neurons in place to learn once
they have been scrambled by noise. That's what I'm saying. And I'm saying
that I observed it in 1958. It may be theoretically possible for * some*
individuals to break the Africanisation of their minds

You're getting worse you know?
Mark Addinall.
.
User: "J Donohue"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 07:27:14 AM
"Addinall" <addinall@addinall.org> wrote

I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958.

I

owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.


Jeez, that must have been a "happening" place. What with a humourless
boring fucking twat like you running it.

Odd how Stan failed to exclude Nazi Punk bands such as Skrewdriver, ABH
Arma Blanca, The Dentists, The Dirty White Punks, Ethnic Cleansing, Fight
For Freedom,
Final Blow 88, Forward Area, The *****-Ups, Homicide, Midgårds Söner, Odio
Mortal,
Phase One, The Raw Boys & White Pride! Judging by his overt racist views,
he probably supports these bands with donations and sends them Christmas
cards every year.
.

User: "Roger Dewhurst"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 03:09:10 PM
"Addinall" <addinall@addinall.org> wrote in message
news:1138532431.014074.318810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Stan Pierce wrote:

"-db-" <widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote in message
news:PW_Cf.230181$V7.226886@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual

Labour

remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds.

It's

African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get

entrapped in

the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They

never

improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960.

People

used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed

in

time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of

simple

rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as much

as a good

solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music

such as

John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas might

do the

trick in rescuing society.

cheers
-db-


I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958.

I

owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.


Jeez, that must have been a "happening" place. What with a humourless
boring fucking twat like you running it.


Over the years I could see the decline of Western music in influencing

youth,

whereas the influence of Rock-n-Roll increased it's influence upon them.
Rock-n-Roll requires no teaching to appreciate it. No effort is

required.

Even very young children are drawn to it.
Once they are exposed to it they rarely transfer the interest to

Western

Classical music as they grow older. You actually need parents who are
Classically minded to pass on the interest in Classical music BEFORE

exposure to

popular music. It doesn't happen otherwise. The consequences of

Rock-n-Roll on

education have been disastrous.



Crap. My old Mum was an Elvis freak. I hated the stuff, but it got
played
around the house. Then came my plank, and with it Deep Purple and
the Who to emulate.

Now I like this mob...

http://www.skinnyfishmusic.com.au/contemporary/yugul.html

And this mob...

http://www.peoplesound.com/artist/bostonchambermusicsociety

[usual rant snipped]


Spending billions on teachers will not put the neurons in place to learn

once

they have been scrambled by noise. That's what I'm saying. And I'm

saying

that I observed it in 1958. It may be theoretically possible for *

some*

individuals to break the Africanisation of their minds



You're getting worse you know?

Mark Addinall.

I suppose you have a point of sorts. You can at least identify the letters
on your keyboard.
R


.

User: "DVH"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 05:26:28 AM
"Addinall" <addinall@addinall.org> wrote in message
news:1138532431.014074.318810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Stan Pierce wrote:

"-db-" <widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote in message
news:PW_Cf.230181$V7.226886@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Stan Pierce wrote:

60% of 16-year-olds fail to get even a C grade in maths. The usual

Labour

remedy...throw money at the disease.

No-one now even contemplates the Rock-n Roll effect on young minds.

It's

African music evolved from African minds. Once white youth get

entrapped in

the noise aspect of it the neurons are fixed in the pattern. They

never

improve afterwards. It's a drug. The effect was evident in 1960.

People

used to mature mentally with age...now they just get older and fixed

in

time...African time. Spending billions trying to undo the effect is
wasted...like spending money on Africans.


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of

simple

rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as much

as a good

solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music

such as

John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas might

do the

trick in rescuing society.

cheers
-db-


I made the observation about the influence of Rock-n-Roll in about 1958.

I

owned a nightclub and saw what it did to people.


Jeez, that must have been a "happening" place. What with a humourless
boring fucking twat like you running it.


Over the years I could see the decline of Western music in influencing

youth,

whereas the influence of Rock-n-Roll increased it's influence upon them.
Rock-n-Roll requires no teaching to appreciate it. No effort is

required.

Even very young children are drawn to it.
Once they are exposed to it they rarely transfer the interest to

Western

Classical music as they grow older. You actually need parents who are
Classically minded to pass on the interest in Classical music BEFORE

exposure to

popular music. It doesn't happen otherwise. The consequences of

Rock-n-Roll on

education have been disastrous.



Crap. My old Mum was an Elvis freak. I hated the stuff, but it got
played
around the house. Then came my plank, and with it Deep Purple and
the Who to emulate.

You haven't proved you're educated yet, though.


Now I like this mob...

http://www.skinnyfishmusic.com.au/contemporary/yugul.html

And this mob...

http://www.peoplesound.com/artist/bostonchambermusicsociety

.


User: ""

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 04:23:43 AM
What utter cods. Rock and roll is good because it's rythmic and
danceable, speaks to its fans, and for no other reason.
I have been listening to rock for 30 years, and in the last ten, begun
to appreciate some classical. My parents NEVER played classical music.
I'm afraid music is a little like religion; after a time, some of it
just becomes an irrelevant anachronism. That's what my son would say
about some areas of rock. That's what I say about tub-thumping marching
music, and twangy trad country.
If anyone's neurons are malfunctioning it's yours....
.
User: "-Newsman-"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 03:18:15 PM
On 29 Jan 2006 02:23:43 -0800,
wrote:

What utter cods. Rock and roll is good because it's rythmic and
danceable, speaks to its fans, and for no other reason.

So what does it actually 'say' to its fans?
.



User: "Sue Bilstein"

Title: Re: Britain's Mental Decline 29 Jan 2006 03:36:12 AM
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 08:22:07 GMT, -db-
<widepope.at.email.dot.com@foo.bar> wrote:


Not sure where you drew the influence of the "devil's music" from that
article. I'm guessing your arguement is something along the lines of
simple rhythms & simple chord progressions don't stimulate the mind as
much as a good solid dose of Wagner in the morning.

Ultimately what we need is some more intellectually challenging music
such as John Coltrane or Ornette Coleman. Or perhaps some Indian ragas
might do the trick in rescuing society.

Or Bach.
.



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