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User: "PagCal"
Date: 17 Jun 2005 04:41:01 AM
Object: Bush Continues Fall in Public Opinion
There's no place but down for Bush. Just pick from the list of what's
he's messed up:
1. The Iraqi quagmire
2. Privitization of Social Security
3. Jobs fleeing overseas
4. An energy policy based on kissing and holding hands with Saudi princes
5. Destruction of our secular society.
6. The Terry Schiavo case.
---
June 17, 2005
Bush's Support on Major Issues Tumbles in Poll
By ROBIN TONER and MARJORIE CONNELLY
Increasingly pessimistic about Iraq and skeptical about President Bush's
plan for Social Security, Americans are in a season of political
discontent, giving Mr. Bush one of the lowest approval ratings of his
presidency and even lower marks to Congress, according to the New York
Times/CBS News Poll.
Forty-two percent of the people responding to the poll said they
approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling his job, a marked decline from
his 51 percent rating after of the November election, when he embarked
on an ambitious second term agenda led by the overhaul of Social
Security. Sixteen months before the midterm elections, Congress fared
even worse in the survey, with the approval of just 33 percent of the
respondents, and 19 percent saying Congress shared their priorities.
Despite months of presidential effort, the nationwide poll found the
public is not rallying toward Mr. Bush's vision of a new Social Security
that would allow younger workers to put part of their payroll taxes into
private investment accounts. Two-thirds said they were uneasy about Mr.
Bush's ability to make sound decisions on Social Security. Only 25
percent said they approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling Social
Security, down slightly from what the poll found in March.
Moreover, 45 percent said the more they heard about the Bush plan, the
less they liked it. The survey also found the public shared the growing
skepticism in Washington about Mr. Bush's prospects for success on
Social Security, with most saying they did not think Mr. Bush would succeed.
Still, Mr. Bush continued to have majority support for his handling of
the war on terrorism - 52 percent - one of his strengths throughout his
2004 re-election campaign.
Mr. Bush's approval rating is below the historical pattern for June in
the first year of a second term: President Clinton's stood at 60 percent
and President Reagan's at 59 percent. But that could reflect, in part,
the much greater partisan polarization in modern politics, underscored
by the 71 percentage point gap between Mr. Bush's approval rating from
Democrats and Republicans in the recent poll. Nicolle Devenish, White
House communications director, dismissed the significance of the poll,
saying Mr. Bush believes that following polls is equivalent to a dog
chasing its tail. "We have advanced a broad agenda, and will continue to
advocate the people's priorities," she said.
On Iraq, months of continued turmoil, insurgent attacks and casualties
appear to have taken a further toll on public attitudes. Looking back,
51 percent said they thought the United States should have stayed out of
Iraq, while 45 percent said military action was the right thing to do.
That reflects only a slight erosion from findings by CBS News throughout
the spring, but a marked turnaround from 2004, when pluralities tended
to think it was still the right thing to do.
Moreover, only 37 percent said they approved of Mr. Bush's handling of
the situation in Iraq, down from 45 percent in February. A strong
majority of Americans now say the effort by the United States to bring
stability and order to Iraq is going badly - 60 percent, up from 47
percent in February.
The latest poll was conducted by telephone June 10 through Wednesday
with 1,111 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus
three percentage points.
In general, the survey found Americans in a darker mood. In one key
measure, only 33 percent said they thought the country was on the right
track, while 61 percent said it had gone off in the wrong direction.
Similar results were found by CBS News in April and May, but that
measure of national optimism was markedly better last November. There
was little change in the way Americans rate the current condition of the
American economy - 54 percent say it is very or fairly good. But the
number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse is growing, to
36 percent from 30 percent in February.
When asked an open-ended question about the most important problems
facing the nation, Americans cited the economy and jobs, war and
terrorism at the top of the list. Social Security, which has consumed an
enormous amount of political energy this spring, did not make the top
six, suggesting voters have a different view of political priorities
than the Republican-controlled Congress and the White House.
The public's view of Congress dropped sharply earlier this year, and has
hovered at unusually low levels since March, according to CBS News Polls.
The sharpest drop in Congressional approval in recent months occurred
among Republicans. In February, 54 percent of Republicans said they
approved of the way Congress was doing its job; in the most recent poll,
that had dropped to 40 percent. Some analysts suggest that Congress is
paying the price for months of intense partisan struggle over judicial
nominations and the decision to intervene in the right-to-die case of
Terri Schiavo.
Christine Weisman, a 54-year-old Republican homemaker in Reading, Pa.,
said in a follow-up interview, "They're not getting anything done. They
don't seem to be able to come together on anything." She added, "It's
all a political thing and they're forgetting the basic needs of the people."
Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois Democrat who heads the
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said, "The American people
know instinctively that we have major problems and we've got a Congress
that is not attending or dealing with them." As the party in control,
Republicans should be held responsible, Mr. Emanuel said, although he
added that the 2006 midterms were far too distant for predictions.
Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, who heads the National
Republican Congressional Committee, said the old truism still held:
"People are not enamored, maybe, of the institution of Congress, but
they love their congressman." He added, "My advice to the policy makers
around Congress is to continue to get the work done, and make sure that
as we get the work done, people know about it."
Mr. Bush faces a very resistant public when it comes to his Social
Security proposals. He recently embraced a solvency plan that would
cushion the lowest income workers from any benefit cuts, but a majority
in the survey said they still believed Mr. Bush's general plan would
most benefit high income people.
He has spent months trying to explain the virtues of private investment
accounts, but public opinion on them remains very divided. Forty-five
percent said those accounts were a good idea, 50 percent a bad idea, the
same breakdown found in the survey in January.
People like the idea that the accounts could be inherited and that they
could result in more money for retirement; both arguments boost support
for the accounts. But the idea that these accounts could lead to huge
amounts of government borrowing - to finance the transition costs -
resulted in a very negative response, as did the idea that the accounts
would be accompanied by a cut in the guaranteed government benefit.
Americans also recognized that Mr. Bush has a Social Security plan and
the Democrats in Congress do not. A majority said they would like to see
the Democrats offer a plan and not simply oppose Mr. Bush's.
But most said they did not think Mr. Bush's plan for private accounts
would do anything for the system's long-term solvency.
Mr. Bush's approval rating in the Times/CBS Survey is one of a series of
recent national polls that registered difficulties for Mr. Bush. The
Associated Press-Ipsos Poll found Mr. Bush with a 43 percent approval
rating; Gallup with 47 percent, and the Washington Post/ABC News Poll at
48 percent.
Fred Backus contributed reporting for this article.
.

User: "Defendario"

Title: Re: Bush Continues Fall in Public Opinion 17 Jun 2005 01:54:58 PM
PagCal wrote:

There's no place but down for Bush. Just pick from the list of what's
he's messed up:

1. The Iraqi quagmire

2. Privitization of Social Security

3. Jobs fleeing overseas

4. An energy policy based on kissing and holding hands with Saudi princes

5. Destruction of our secular society.

6. The Terry Schiavo case.

You have hit the mark. I note how no one has responded to this
excellent post.
The 'Pugs are scared. LOL!
;D

---

June 17, 2005
Bush's Support on Major Issues Tumbles in Poll
By ROBIN TONER and MARJORIE CONNELLY

Increasingly pessimistic about Iraq and skeptical about President Bush's
plan for Social Security, Americans are in a season of political
discontent, giving Mr. Bush one of the lowest approval ratings of his
presidency and even lower marks to Congress, according to the New York
Times/CBS News Poll.

Forty-two percent of the people responding to the poll said they
approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling his job, a marked decline from
his 51 percent rating after of the November election, when he embarked
on an ambitious second term agenda led by the overhaul of Social
Security. Sixteen months before the midterm elections, Congress fared
even worse in the survey, with the approval of just 33 percent of the
respondents, and 19 percent saying Congress shared their priorities.

Despite months of presidential effort, the nationwide poll found the
public is not rallying toward Mr. Bush's vision of a new Social Security
that would allow younger workers to put part of their payroll taxes into
private investment accounts. Two-thirds said they were uneasy about Mr.
Bush's ability to make sound decisions on Social Security. Only 25
percent said they approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling Social
Security, down slightly from what the poll found in March.

Moreover, 45 percent said the more they heard about the Bush plan, the
less they liked it. The survey also found the public shared the growing
skepticism in Washington about Mr. Bush's prospects for success on
Social Security, with most saying they did not think Mr. Bush would
succeed.

Still, Mr. Bush continued to have majority support for his handling of
the war on terrorism - 52 percent - one of his strengths throughout his
2004 re-election campaign.

Mr. Bush's approval rating is below the historical pattern for June in
the first year of a second term: President Clinton's stood at 60 percent
and President Reagan's at 59 percent. But that could reflect, in part,
the much greater partisan polarization in modern politics, underscored
by the 71 percentage point gap between Mr. Bush's approval rating from
Democrats and Republicans in the recent poll. Nicolle Devenish, White
House communications director, dismissed the significance of the poll,
saying Mr. Bush believes that following polls is equivalent to a dog
chasing its tail. "We have advanced a broad agenda, and will continue to
advocate the people's priorities," she said.

On Iraq, months of continued turmoil, insurgent attacks and casualties
appear to have taken a further toll on public attitudes. Looking back,
51 percent said they thought the United States should have stayed out of
Iraq, while 45 percent said military action was the right thing to do.
That reflects only a slight erosion from findings by CBS News throughout
the spring, but a marked turnaround from 2004, when pluralities tended
to think it was still the right thing to do.

Moreover, only 37 percent said they approved of Mr. Bush's handling of
the situation in Iraq, down from 45 percent in February. A strong
majority of Americans now say the effort by the United States to bring
stability and order to Iraq is going badly - 60 percent, up from 47
percent in February.

The latest poll was conducted by telephone June 10 through Wednesday
with 1,111 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus
three percentage points.

In general, the survey found Americans in a darker mood. In one key
measure, only 33 percent said they thought the country was on the right
track, while 61 percent said it had gone off in the wrong direction.
Similar results were found by CBS News in April and May, but that
measure of national optimism was markedly better last November. There
was little change in the way Americans rate the current condition of the
American economy - 54 percent say it is very or fairly good. But the
number of Americans who say the economy is getting worse is growing, to
36 percent from 30 percent in February.

When asked an open-ended question about the most important problems
facing the nation, Americans cited the economy and jobs, war and
terrorism at the top of the list. Social Security, which has consumed an
enormous amount of political energy this spring, did not make the top
six, suggesting voters have a different view of political priorities
than the Republican-controlled Congress and the White House.

The public's view of Congress dropped sharply earlier this year, and has
hovered at unusually low levels since March, according to CBS News Polls.

The sharpest drop in Congressional approval in recent months occurred
among Republicans. In February, 54 percent of Republicans said they
approved of the way Congress was doing its job; in the most recent poll,
that had dropped to 40 percent. Some analysts suggest that Congress is
paying the price for months of intense partisan struggle over judicial
nominations and the decision to intervene in the right-to-die case of
Terri Schiavo.

Christine Weisman, a 54-year-old Republican homemaker in Reading, Pa.,
said in a follow-up interview, "They're not getting anything done. They
don't seem to be able to come together on anything." She added, "It's
all a political thing and they're forgetting the basic needs of the
people."

Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois Democrat who heads the
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said, "The American people
know instinctively that we have major problems and we've got a Congress
that is not attending or dealing with them." As the party in control,
Republicans should be held responsible, Mr. Emanuel said, although he
added that the 2006 midterms were far too distant for predictions.

Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, who heads the National
Republican Congressional Committee, said the old truism still held:
"People are not enamored, maybe, of the institution of Congress, but
they love their congressman." He added, "My advice to the policy makers
around Congress is to continue to get the work done, and make sure that
as we get the work done, people know about it."

Mr. Bush faces a very resistant public when it comes to his Social
Security proposals. He recently embraced a solvency plan that would
cushion the lowest income workers from any benefit cuts, but a majority
in the survey said they still believed Mr. Bush's general plan would
most benefit high income people.

He has spent months trying to explain the virtues of private investment
accounts, but public opinion on them remains very divided. Forty-five
percent said those accounts were a good idea, 50 percent a bad idea, the
same breakdown found in the survey in January.

People like the idea that the accounts could be inherited and that they
could result in more money for retirement; both arguments boost support
for the accounts. But the idea that these accounts could lead to huge
amounts of government borrowing - to finance the transition costs -
resulted in a very negative response, as did the idea that the accounts
would be accompanied by a cut in the guaranteed government benefit.

Americans also recognized that Mr. Bush has a Social Security plan and
the Democrats in Congress do not. A majority said they would like to see
the Democrats offer a plan and not simply oppose Mr. Bush's.

But most said they did not think Mr. Bush's plan for private accounts
would do anything for the system's long-term solvency.

Mr. Bush's approval rating in the Times/CBS Survey is one of a series of
recent national polls that registered difficulties for Mr. Bush. The
Associated Press-Ipsos Poll found Mr. Bush with a 43 percent approval
rating; Gallup with 47 percent, and the Washington Post/ABC News Poll at
48 percent.

Fred Backus contributed reporting for this article.

.
User: "Harvey"

Title: Re: Bush Continues Fall in Public Opinion 17 Jun 2005 07:59:40 PM
"Defendario" <Defendario@netscape.com> wrote in message
news:3hgksrFgkleeU2@individual.net...

PagCal wrote:

There's no place but down for Bush. Just pick from the list of what's
he's messed up:

1. The Iraqi quagmire

2. Privitization of Social Security

3. Jobs fleeing overseas

4. An energy policy based on kissing and holding hands with Saudi
princes

5. Destruction of our secular society.

6. The Terry Schiavo case.


You have hit the mark. I note how no one has responded to this
excellent post.

That's good. Don't often see a remark that stupid on so many levels.


The 'Pugs are scared. LOL!

;D

They should be, but not because you two are after 'em.


---

June 17, 2005
Bush's Support on Major Issues Tumbles in Poll
By ROBIN TONER and MARJORIE CONNELLY

Increasingly pessimistic about Iraq and skeptical about President
Bush's plan for Social Security, Americans are in a season of
political discontent, giving Mr. Bush one of the lowest approval
ratings of his presidency and even lower marks to Congress, according
to the New York Times/CBS News Poll.

Forty-two percent of the people responding to the poll said they
approved of the way Mr. Bush was handling his job, a marked decline
from his 51 percent rating after of the November election, when he
embarked on an ambitious second term agenda led by the overhaul of
Social Security. Sixteen months before the midterm elections,
Congress fared even worse in the survey, with the approval of just 33
percent of the respondents, and 19 percent saying Congress shared
their priorities.

Despite months of presidential effort, the nationwide poll found the
public is not rallying toward Mr. Bush's vision of a new Social
Security that would allow younger workers to put part of their
payroll taxes into private investment accounts. Two-thirds said they
were uneasy about Mr. Bush's ability to make sound decisions on
Social Security. Only 25 percent said they approved of the way Mr.
Bush was handling Social Security, down slightly from what the poll
found in March.

Moreover, 45 percent said the more they heard about the Bush plan,
the less they liked it. The survey also found the public shared the
growing skepticism in Washington about Mr. Bush's prospects for
success on Social Security, with most saying they did not think Mr.
Bush would succeed.

Still, Mr. Bush continued to have majority support for his handling
of the war on terrorism - 52 percent - one of his strengths
throughout his 2004 re-election campaign.

Mr. Bush's approval rating is below the historical pattern for June
in the first year of a second term: President Clinton's stood at 60
percent and President Reagan's at 59 percent. But that could reflect,
in part, the much greater partisan polarization in modern politics,
underscored by the 71 percentage point gap between Mr. Bush's
approval rating from Democrats and Republicans in the recent poll.
Nicolle Devenish, White House communications director, dismissed the
significance of the poll, saying Mr. Bush believes that following
polls is equivalent to a dog chasing its tail. "We have advanced a
broad agenda, and will continue to advocate the people's priorities,"
she said.

On Iraq, months of continued turmoil, insurgent attacks and
casualties appear to have taken a further toll on public attitudes.
Looking back, 51 percent said they thought the United States should
have stayed out of Iraq, while 45 percent said military action was
the right thing to do. That reflects only a slight erosion from
findings by CBS News throughout the spring, but a marked turnaround
from 2004, when pluralities tended to think it was still the right
thing to do.

Moreover, only 37 percent said they approved of Mr. Bush's handling
of the situation in Iraq, down from 45 percent in February. A strong
majority of Americans now say the effort by the United States to
bring stability and order to Iraq is going badly - 60 percent, up
from 47 percent in February.

The latest poll was conducted by telephone June 10 through Wednesday
with 1,111 adults and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus
three percentage points.

In general, the survey found Americans in a darker mood. In one key
measure, only 33 percent said they thought the country was on the
right track, while 61 percent said it had gone off in the wrong
direction. Similar results were found by CBS News in April and May,
but that measure of national optimism was markedly better last
November. There was little change in the way Americans rate the
current condition of the American economy - 54 percent say it is very
or fairly good. But the number of Americans who say the economy is
getting worse is growing, to 36 percent from 30 percent in February.

When asked an open-ended question about the most important problems
facing the nation, Americans cited the economy and jobs, war and
terrorism at the top of the list. Social Security, which has consumed
an enormous amount of political energy this spring, did not make the
top six, suggesting voters have a different view of political
priorities than the Republican-controlled Congress and the White
House.

The public's view of Congress dropped sharply earlier this year, and
has hovered at unusually low levels since March, according to CBS
News Polls.

The sharpest drop in Congressional approval in recent months occurred
among Republicans. In February, 54 percent of Republicans said they
approved of the way Congress was doing its job; in the most recent
poll, that had dropped to 40 percent. Some analysts suggest that
Congress is paying the price for months of intense partisan struggle
over judicial nominations and the decision to intervene in the
right-to-die case of Terri Schiavo.

Christine Weisman, a 54-year-old Republican homemaker in Reading,
Pa., said in a follow-up interview, "They're not getting anything
done. They don't seem to be able to come together on anything." She
added, "It's all a political thing and they're forgetting the basic
needs of the people."

Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois Democrat who heads the
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said, "The American
people know instinctively that we have major problems and we've got a
Congress that is not attending or dealing with them." As the party in
control, Republicans should be held responsible, Mr. Emanuel said,
although he added that the 2006 midterms were far too distant for
predictions.

Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, who heads the National
Republican Congressional Committee, said the old truism still held:
"People are not enamored, maybe, of the institution of Congress, but
they love their congressman." He added, "My advice to the policy
makers around Congress is to continue to get the work done, and make
sure that as we get the work done, people know about it."

Mr. Bush faces a very resistant public when it comes to his Social
Security proposals. He recently embraced a solvency plan that would
cushion the lowest income workers from any benefit cuts, but a
majority in the survey said they still believed Mr. Bush's general
plan would most benefit high income people.

He has spent months trying to explain the virtues of private
investment accounts, but public opinion on them remains very divided.
Forty-five percent said those accounts were a good idea, 50 percent a
bad idea, the same breakdown found in the survey in January.

People like the idea that the accounts could be inherited and that
they could result in more money for retirement; both arguments boost
support for the accounts. But the idea that these accounts could lead
to huge amounts of government borrowing - to finance the transition
costs - resulted in a very negative response, as did the idea that
the accounts would be accompanied by a cut in the guaranteed
government benefit.

Americans also recognized that Mr. Bush has a Social Security plan
and the Democrats in Congress do not. A majority said they would like
to see the Democrats offer a plan and not simply oppose Mr. Bush's.

But most said they did not think Mr. Bush's plan for private accounts
would do anything for the system's long-term solvency.

Mr. Bush's approval rating in the Times/CBS Survey is one of a series
of recent national polls that registered difficulties for Mr. Bush.
The Associated Press-Ipsos Poll found Mr. Bush with a 43 percent
approval rating; Gallup with 47 percent, and the Washington Post/ABC
News Poll at 48 percent.

Fred Backus contributed reporting for this article.


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