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22 Mar 2006 02:44:04 PM |
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Bush just can't stop lying. |
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8315.shtml
Bush just can't stop lying
By DOUG THOMPSON
Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
Bush's attempt to showcase himself as a leader who could handle tough
questions from the press corps fell just as flat as his unscripted
town-meeting style appearance in Cleveland the day before.
His eyes darted from side-to-side as he fielded questions about his
real reasons for invading Iraq.
He stammered.
Stalled.
Used the word "uh" more times than a suspect caught red-handed.
He still claimed his reasons for invading Iraq were just, even though
those reasons have been proven wrong.
He claims the war can be won, a view not shared by many of his
generals.
He claimed a lot of things - few of them true.
"President Bush exhibited symptoms of pathological prevarication,"
says Dr. Stephanie Crossfield, a psychologist who treats people who
have trouble telling the truth and who watched Bush's performances on
Monday and Tuesday at my request.
"His eye movements, gestures, and changes in voice tone all display
traits of consistent evasion of the truth."
This isn't the first time I've asked Dr. Crossfield to study a
politician.
She watched several of former President Bill Clinton's press
conferences and came to similar conclusions about Clinton
disassociation with reality.
When studying a subject, she watches the eyes.
"Eye movement is difficult to control," she said.
"You find that the eyes dart away in specific patterns when a person
is not telling the truth. The President's eyes dart a great deal. He
is not comfortable facing the truth."
Dr. Justin Frank, author of the book, Bush on the Couch: Inside the
Mind of the President, agrees with Dr. Crossfield.
"President Bush marches deeper and deeper into a world of his own,"
says Dr. Frank.
"Central to Bush's world is an iron will which demands that external
reality be changed to conform to his personal view of how things are."
Republicans reluctantly admit Bush has lost touch with the truth.
Sen. Chuck Hagel says the President is "disconnected from reality."
Venture out beyond the Beltway and you find conservative Republicans
shaking their head and wondering the same thing.
Dennis Dalbey cuts the hair of Camp Pendleton's young Marines, giving
them the regulation haircut before they head to combat in Iraq.
His barbershop on the Coast Highway near the base in California is
covered with painted yellow ribbons, flags and "We support our troops"
banners.
But Dalbey, a Republican and a self-described conservative who voted
for Bush, says he is fed up with the President's lies.
"Enough is enough," he says.
"It's time to bring the boys home."
In San Marcos, retired Navy veteran Herb Ranquist, 77, sits in the
local VFW hall and says Bush is a failure.
"I voted for him two times, and I wish I hadn't," Ranquist says.
"It was probably one of the worst mistakes I ever made."
Dr. Crossfield says it doesn't take a degree in psychology or advanced
training in spotting liars to realize the President plays fast and
loose with the truth.
"More and more ordinary Americans see the evidence clearly every day,"
she says.
"It is difficult to ignore."
Dr. Frank says Bush can't change his ways.
"Taking responsibility has always been hard for George W. Bush," he
says.
"Taking responsibility for inflicting harm on others, a major step in
the development of maturity, is a step President Bush has yet to make.
Instead, he persists in lying to himself."
And to the American people.
_______________________________________________________
"Bush just can't stop lying" which is no real surprise to most
intelligent folks.
Harry
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22 Mar 2006 04:16:11 PM |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8315.shtml
Bush just can't stop lying
By DOUG THOMPSON
Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
LOL! Sounds exactly like Mark Fox or Jim E, or any other of the kooky right
wing loons in this newsgroup!
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24 Mar 2006 08:39:23 AM |
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Malto wrote:
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Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
LOL! Sounds exactly like Mark Fox or Jim E, or any other of the kooky right
wing loons in this newsgroup!
Bush doesn't read usenet, but I'm fairly sure that Bush's inability to
change his mind on any topic is emulated by Mark Fox--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
-Thufir
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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25 Mar 2006 05:21:06 AM |
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wrote:
Malto wrote:
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Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
LOL! Sounds exactly like Mark Fox or Jim E, or any other of the kooky right
wing loons in this newsgroup!
Bush doesn't read usenet, but I'm fairly sure that Bush's inability to
change his mind on any topic is emulated by Mark Fox
You remind me of John Kerry's wind surfing debacle where he was shown
changing course whenever the wind happened to blow the other way. LOL!
--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
Abortion and "presumably religion"?? Are you some sort of idiot? From
where did you invent that false claim? Your grasp of the facts clearly
wonders when you forget to take your medications. Never mind the
question as we already know the answer.
-Thufir
You definitely win the "Dufus" award today with that stupid statement
above.
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| User: "" |
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25 Mar 2006 10:40:58 AM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
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--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
'2.7 How do I mark text I left out?
Text you left out when quoting should always be marked with "[...]" or
"(...)", while the first is much more common. Another possibility that
has become more and more common is to use "<snip>".
Many people tend to simply cut out the lines to which they are not
referring to without marking this change. This is usually not ment to
be impolite, but rather to save the author some time. Everybody can get
the entire original text by following the referenced articles.
But if you leave out parts of a sentence, you definitely should mark
this as described above. '
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1>
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
Abortion and "presumably religion"?? Are you some sort of idiot? From
where did you invent that false claim? Your grasp of the facts clearly
wonders when you forget to take your medications. Never mind the
question as we already know the answer.
-Thufir
You definitely win the "Dufus" award today with that stupid statement
above.
Fox, when your first posts on usenet are solely confined to forums
along the lines of "alt.bible" on the topic of homosexuality it's fair
to say that those are the hotbutton issues for you. You only opt to
participate in the political forums to make outrageous claims and see
what responses you can get, I believe. Fox, I believe you're a troll.
Are you not Christian? It's ok to be Christian, no problem. Fox, do
you want ID taught in high school? Fox, do you believe that a wife
should be legally required to inform her husband prior to an abortion?
Fox, how old is the earth, more on the side of several billion years,
or about six thousand years old?
Please confine yourself to a single question--I'll gladly debate any of
the above with you, Fox.
-Thufir
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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25 Mar 2006 02:45:27 PM |
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wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
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--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
'2.7 How do I mark text I left out?
Text you left out when quoting should always be marked with "[...]" or
"(...)", while the first is much more common. Another possibility that
has become more and more common is to use "<snip>".
Many people tend to simply cut out the lines to which they are not
referring to without marking this change. This is usually not ment to
be impolite, but rather to save the author some time. Everybody can get
the entire original text by following the referenced articles.
But if you leave out parts of a sentence, you definitely should mark
this as described above. '
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1>
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
Abortion and "presumably religion"?? Are you some sort of idiot? From
where did you invent that false claim? Your grasp of the facts clearly
wonders when you forget to take your medications. Never mind the
question as we already know the answer.
-Thufir
You definitely win the "Dufus" award today with that stupid statement
above.
Fox, when your first posts on usenet are solely confined to forums
along the lines of "alt.bible" on the topic of homosexuality it's fair
to say that those are the hotbutton issues for you.
Hey moron. Hey, Dufas. Why are you such a knuckle dragging idiot???
Did you even bother to notice what my position was on homosexuality?
You idiot. I argued that homosexuals should be able to get married if
they want to. That is not a Republican position. I have told you many
times before that I"m a democrat who voted for Bush because the current
batch of democrat leaders are trying to raise taxes on the working
class American and they aren't serious about national security.
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| User: "" |
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25 Mar 2006 03:12:50 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
hawat.thufir@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
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--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
'2.7 How do I mark text I left out?
Text you left out when quoting should always be marked with "[...]" or
"(...)", while the first is much more common. Another possibility that
has become more and more common is to use "<snip>".
Many people tend to simply cut out the lines to which they are not
referring to without marking this change. This is usually not ment to
be impolite, but rather to save the author some time. Everybody can get
the entire original text by following the referenced articles.
But if you leave out parts of a sentence, you definitely should mark
this as described above. '
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1>
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
Abortion and "presumably religion"?? Are you some sort of idiot? From
where did you invent that false claim? Your grasp of the facts clearly
wonders when you forget to take your medications. Never mind the
question as we already know the answer.
-Thufir
You definitely win the "Dufus" award today with that stupid statement
above.
Fox, when your first posts on usenet are solely confined to forums
along the lines of "alt.bible" on the topic of homosexuality it's fair
to say that those are the hotbutton issues for you.
Hey moron. Hey, Dufas. Why are you such a knuckle dragging idiot???
Did you even bother to notice what my position was on homosexuality?
You idiot. I argued that homosexuals should be able to get married if
they want to. That is not a Republican position. I have told you many
times before that I"m a democrat who voted for Bush because the current
batch of democrat leaders are trying to raise taxes on the working
class American and they aren't serious about national security.
I never called you a homophobe, merely noted that you used to populate
alt.bible, etc.
-Thufir
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26 Mar 2006 07:33:54 AM |
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wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
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--Bush is Fox's
role model, not the other way around. Pardon, I've yet to have the
honor of interacting with Jim E (or at least don't recall doing so).
'2.7 How do I mark text I left out?
Text you left out when quoting should always be marked with "[...]" or
"(...)", while the first is much more common. Another possibility that
has become more and more common is to use "<snip>".
Many people tend to simply cut out the lines to which they are not
referring to without marking this change. This is usually not ment to
be impolite, but rather to save the author some time. Everybody can get
the entire original text by following the referenced articles.
But if you leave out parts of a sentence, you definitely should mark
this as described above. '
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1>
By the way, Fox is with the "Democrat party," except for taxes,
abortion, security, presumably religion, etc, etc. If you ask Fox,
he'll claim to be with the "Democrat party," as he refers to it.
Abortion and "presumably religion"?? Are you some sort of idiot? From
where did you invent that false claim? Your grasp of the facts clearly
wonders when you forget to take your medications. Never mind the
question as we already know the answer.
-Thufir
You definitely win the "Dufus" award today with that stupid statement
above.
Fox, when your first posts on usenet are solely confined to forums
along the lines of "alt.bible" on the topic of homosexuality it's fair
to say that those are the hotbutton issues for you.
Hey moron. Hey, Dufas. Why are you such a knuckle dragging idiot???
Did you even bother to notice what my position was on homosexuality?
You idiot. I argued that homosexuals should be able to get married if
they want to. That is not a Republican position. I have told you many
times before that I"m a democrat who voted for Bush because the current
batch of democrat leaders are trying to raise taxes on the working
class American and they aren't serious about national security.
I never called you a homophobe, merely noted that you used to populate
alt.bible, etc.
If you were able to grow a brain and get a clue you would have noticed
that I was supporting liberal ideals on alt.bible
Jesus should not be a mascot for the republican party or for
conservative nut bags like Jerry Falwell. You probably missed my posts
lecturing them on the fact that its not homosexuality but promiscuity
that spreads AIDs.
-Thufir
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| User: "" |
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26 Mar 2006 12:12:27 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
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I never called you a homophobe, merely noted that you used to populate
alt.bible, etc.
If you were able to grow a brain and get a clue you would have noticed
that I was supporting liberal ideals on alt.bible
Jesus should not be a mascot for the republican party or for
conservative nut bags like Jerry Falwell. You probably missed my posts
lecturing them on the fact that its not homosexuality but promiscuity
that spreads AIDs.
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I believe that you no longer populate alt.bible, as you used to,
because you get a better reaction in alt.politics. That is, I believe
you're a troll, Fox.
-Thufir
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| User: "Mark Fox" |
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26 Mar 2006 12:21:32 PM |
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wrote:
Mark Fox wrote:
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I never called you a homophobe, merely noted that you used to populate
alt.bible, etc.
If you were able to grow a brain and get a clue you would have noticed
that I was supporting liberal ideals on alt.bible
Jesus should not be a mascot for the republican party or for
conservative nut bags like Jerry Falwell. You probably missed my posts
lecturing them on the fact that its not homosexuality but promiscuity
that spreads AIDs.
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I believe that you no longer populate alt.bible, as you used to,
because you get a better reaction in alt.politics. That is, I believe
you're a troll, Fox.
If trolls point out the lies propogated by morons like you and then go
research facts and post the links to those facts here on this group
then, yes, I'm a troll.
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26 Mar 2006 04:13:44 PM |
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Mark Fox wrote:
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I believe that you no longer populate alt.bible, as you used to,
because you get a better reaction in alt.politics. That is, I believe
you're a troll, Fox.
If trolls point out the lies propogated by morons like you and then go
research facts and post the links to those facts here on this group
then, yes, I'm a troll.
Attention-seeking trolls
This class of trolls seeks to incite as many responses as possible and
to absorb a disproportionate share of the collective attention span.
[...]
Politically contentious messages: "Everyone knows that all
Republicans/Democrats are evil."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll>
-Thufir
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23 Mar 2006 06:25:29 AM |
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Malto wrote:
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:kod322pfd2vlapub84qb2q9jqs9okaqqn4@4ax.com...
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8315.shtml
Bush just can't stop lying
By DOUG THOMPSON
Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
LOL! Sounds exactly like Mark Fox or Jim E, or any other of the kooky right
wing loons in this newsgroup!
Sounds like the party and the ideas that got elected by the American
people and then re-elected by three million American voters.
You, on the other hand, are unknown and irrelevant and and haven't won
an election in ....I can't remember when. I recall her name was
Monica.
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23 Mar 2006 07:42:57 AM |
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In article <1143116729.250818.245000@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sounds like the party and the ideas that got elected by the American
people and then re-elected by three million American voters.
You, on the other hand, are unknown and irrelevant and and haven't won
an election in ....I can't remember when. I recall her name was
Monica.
Ah, yes, the famous "Clinton" excuse. God, what a mentality.
I recall that Jesus came upon a *****, and lifted her up....
St. John 8:11b ³ŠAnd Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee:
go, and sin no more.²
No impeachment, no condemnation, just a simple directive.
Now please get your head out of your pecker, quit worrying about sexual
things, and start concentrating on more serious issues, like life and
death, immoral and illegal wars, and such.
--
"It is easier to fight for your principles
than to live by them."
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24 Mar 2006 07:59:29 AM |
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Mamamia wrote:
"Mark Fox" wrote:
Sounds like the party and the ideas that got elected by the American
people and then re-elected by three million American voters.
You, on the other hand, are unknown and irrelevant and and haven't won
an election in ....I can't remember when.
Ah, yes, the famous "Clinton" excuse.
The fact that you lost the last two elections because you didn't get
enough votes is "the Clinton excuse". Are you some sort of idiot?
God, what a mentality.
The democrat leaders have been scrambling for 5 years trying and
failing to show President Bush as a liar and impeach him yet that
battle cry still rages in the liberal press. Do you think this is not
because of Monica? The democrat leaders have no ability for original
thought. They have no plan to move the country forward. They are just
trying to do the Bush what happened to Clinton. Pull your head out of
your ***** and smell the adultery.
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25 Mar 2006 05:05:22 PM |
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Harry Hope wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8315.shtml
Bush just can't stop lying
By DOUG THOMPSON
Americans who tuned in for one of President George W. Bush's rare
press conferences saw a cornered animal trying to squirm his way out
of trouble by doing what he has always done - evading the truth.
Bush's attempt to showcase himself as a leader who could handle tough
questions from the press corps fell just as flat as his unscripted
town-meeting style appearance in Cleveland the day before.
His eyes darted from side-to-side as he fielded questions about his
real reasons for invading Iraq.
He stammered.
Stalled.
Used the word "uh" more times than a suspect caught red-handed.
He still claimed his reasons for invading Iraq were just, even though
those reasons have been proven wrong.
He claims the war can be won, a view not shared by many of his
generals.
He claimed a lot of things - few of them true.
What you saw here was the real George W Bush. A very unintelligent man
who was elected through controlled media propaganda orchestrated by
Karl Rove. Karl is a genious for getting such an idiot reelected and
is better off having the audience hand picked so no one who disagrees
can ask any difficult questions and drape the President in the American
flag surrounded by soldiers in uniform with lots of medals for bravery.
"President Bush exhibited symptoms of pathological prevarication,"
says Dr. Stephanie Crossfield, a psychologist who treats people who
have trouble telling the truth and who watched Bush's performances on
Monday and Tuesday at my request.
"His eye movements, gestures, and changes in voice tone all display
traits of consistent evasion of the truth."
This isn't the first time I've asked Dr. Crossfield to study a
politician.
She watched several of former President Bill Clinton's press
conferences and came to similar conclusions about Clinton
disassociation with reality.
When studying a subject, she watches the eyes.
"Eye movement is difficult to control," she said.
"You find that the eyes dart away in specific patterns when a person
is not telling the truth. The President's eyes dart a great deal. He
is not comfortable facing the truth."
Dr. Justin Frank, author of the book, Bush on the Couch: Inside the
Mind of the President, agrees with Dr. Crossfield.
"President Bush marches deeper and deeper into a world of his own,"
says Dr. Frank.
"Central to Bush's world is an iron will which demands that external
reality be changed to conform to his personal view of how things are."
Republicans reluctantly admit Bush has lost touch with the truth.
Sen. Chuck Hagel says the President is "disconnected from reality."
Venture out beyond the Beltway and you find conservative Republicans
shaking their head and wondering the same thing.
Dennis Dalbey cuts the hair of Camp Pendleton's young Marines, giving
them the regulation haircut before they head to combat in Iraq.
His barbershop on the Coast Highway near the base in California is
covered with painted yellow ribbons, flags and "We support our troops"
banners.
But Dalbey, a Republican and a self-described conservative who voted
for Bush, says he is fed up with the President's lies.
"Enough is enough," he says.
"It's time to bring the boys home."
In San Marcos, retired Navy veteran Herb Ranquist, 77, sits in the
local VFW hall and says Bush is a failure.
"I voted for him two times, and I wish I hadn't," Ranquist says.
"It was probably one of the worst mistakes I ever made."
Dr. Crossfield says it doesn't take a degree in psychology or advanced
training in spotting liars to realize the President plays fast and
loose with the truth.
"More and more ordinary Americans see the evidence clearly every day,"
she says.
"It is difficult to ignore."
Dr. Frank says Bush can't change his ways.
"Taking responsibility has always been hard for George W. Bush," he
says.
"Taking responsibility for inflicting harm on others, a major step in
the development of maturity, is a step President Bush has yet to make.
Instead, he persists in lying to himself."
And to the American people.
_______________________________________________________
"Bush just can't stop lying" which is no real surprise to most
intelligent folks.
Harry
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| User: "Glergen Schlossen" |
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22 Mar 2006 04:23:35 PM |
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In article <kod322pfd2vlapub84qb2q9jqs9okaqqn4@4ax.com>, Harry Hope
<rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_8315.shtml
Bush just can't stop lying
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And we don't have to believe him either:
A witness false in one part of his or her testimony is to be
distrusted in others. You may reject the entire testimony of a witness
who willfully has testified falsely on a material point, unless, from
all the evidence, you believe that the probability of truth favors his
or her testimony in other particulars.
(California Jury Instructions)
Jury INSTRUCTION NO. 2.22
WITNESS WILLFULLY FALSE
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