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19 May 2007 05:52:11 AM |
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Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
Senators agree on new H1-B policy
http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2059673.cms
NEW YORK: Raising hopes for hi-tech Indian professionals
seeking jobs in the US, the American Senate has agreed on the
broad contours of a comprehensive immigration reform bill
that seeks to increase the number of H1B visas by 50,000 annually.
The bill also seeks to tackle the problem of 12 million
illegal immigrants, and provide a temporary worker programme.
While the proposed legislation has provision for increasing
H1B visa allocation from the current 65,000 to 115,000,
a bi-partisan group of senators also made it clear that
the "last word on the subject had not been said."
"There are provisions for H1B. There have been others
who wanted to see an expansion of that programme and
there are some members who are concerned about the fact
that some of the existing H1B have been more involved
in shipping jobs overseas rather than creating jobs here,"
said Senator Edward Kennedy while announcing the
bi-partisan agreement on the Immigration legislation.
"As I reflect upon this important accomplishment,
the first step toward a comprehensive immigration bill,
it reminds me of how much the Americans appreciate
the fact that we can work together, and when we work
together that they see positive things," President Bush said.
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| User: "Citizen Jimserac" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
19 May 2007 06:06:43 AM |
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On May 19, 6:52 am, Perm2Temp Jobs <Perm2T...@Scab-Agents.com> wrote:
Senators agree on new H1-B policyhttp://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2059673.cms
NEW YORK: Raising hopes for hi-tech Indian professionals
seeking jobs in the US, the American Senate has agreed on the
broad contours of a comprehensive immigration reform bill
that seeks to increase the number of H1B visas by 50,000 annually.
The bill also seeks to tackle the problem of 12 million
illegal immigrants, and provide a temporary worker programme.
While the proposed legislation has provision for increasing
H1B visa allocation from the current 65,000 to 115,000,
a bi-partisan group of senators also made it clear that
the "last word on the subject had not been said."
"There are provisions for H1B. There have been others
who wanted to see an expansion of that programme and
there are some members who are concerned about the fact
that some of the existing H1B have been more involved
in shipping jobs overseas rather than creating jobs here,"
said Senator Edward Kennedy while announcing the
bi-partisan agreement on the Immigration legislation.
"As I reflect upon this important accomplishment,
the first step toward a comprehensive immigration bill,
it reminds me of how much the Americans appreciate
the fact that we can work together, and when we work
together that they see positive things," President Bush said.
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!
President Bush and Senator Edward Kennedy are in AGREEMENT on
something?
Does that not indicate to everyone that something is very
wrong????????
Also, where the hell are the spokespeople for American hi-tech
employees, have they NO represenatation?
Citizen Jimserac
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| User: "lubow" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
19 May 2007 09:30:33 AM |
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Also, where the hell are the spokespeople for American hi-tech
employees, have they NO represenatation?
American hi-techies? You can't be serious. What youngster would want to
study engineering or computer science knowing that most engineers are out of
the field within five years of graduating and in computer science, it's more
like 2 years?
What this means is, in the case of computer innovation, what you see is what
you will be getting for the foreseeable future. You will see things like
Vista and different shapes of mp3 players... just cosmetic changes
internally and externally, but nothing earth-shattering.
There are no US youngsters studying these fields in US colleges. That means
is that university research will not be conducted at least to the extent it
had been done for the last forty years. If you think third world
universities can pick up the slack that was done at places like University
of Illinois or Berkeley or MIT, think again. Has anything of value in the
computer science business ever come out of the University of Punjab or
Trotsky State University?
If you want to blame anyone, blame the congress for getting bought out by
industries that cannot see further than the next quarterly report.
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Lubow
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| User: "zeez" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
20 May 2007 10:43:56 AM |
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On May 19, 7:30 am, "lubow" <l...@lubow-industries.com> wrote:
Also, where the hell are the spokespeople for American hi-tech
employees, have they NO represenatation?
American hi-techies? You can't be serious. What youngster would want to
study engineering or computer science knowing that most engineers are out of
the field within five years of graduating and in computer science, it's more
like 2 years?
Amen to that. Who wants to spend years in school, rack up a debt of
tens of thousands or even
hundreds of thousands of dollars, only to end up working at McDonalds
because their unfaithful
employer threw them over for a foreigner to get some extra bucks in
his pockets? The dot-com era
is long gone, and now people are seeing the nasty reality that wasn't
so apparent in the late 90's.
What this means is, in the case of computer innovation, what you see is what
you will be getting for the foreseeable future. You will see things like
Vista and different shapes of mp3 players... just cosmetic changes
internally and externally, but nothing earth-shattering.
Don't forget more and more draconian DRM. You get the same hardware
you had a couple years ago for
about the same price, only now it can do far less.
There are no US youngsters studying these fields in US colleges. That means
is that university research will not be conducted at least to the extent it
had been done for the last forty years. If you think third world
universities can pick up the slack that was done at places like University
of Illinois or Berkeley or MIT, think again. Has anything of value in the
computer science business ever come out of the University of Punjab or
Trotsky State University?
Thank corporations, Bu$h and friends, and basicly every
corrupt ,greedy ***** out here for really
screwing us on this one.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the congress for getting bought out by
industries that cannot see further than the next quarterly report.
Amen. These so called "new money" dorks don't give a flying *****,
plain and simple. Make as much money
as you can before you ultimately send the company and it's workers
down in flames. Of course, the
orthodox capitalists among us say "this is just business, they can do
whatever the hell the want, blah blah
blah".
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
19 May 2007 08:54:29 AM |
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On May 19, 4:06 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 19, 6:52 am, Perm2Temp Jobs <Perm2T...@Scab-Agents.com> wrote:
Senators agree on new H1-B policyhttp://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2059673.cms
NEW YORK: Raising hopes for hi-tech Indian professionals
seeking jobs in the US, the American Senate has agreed on the
broad contours of a comprehensive immigration reform bill
that seeks to increase the number of H1B visas by 50,000 annually.
The bill also seeks to tackle the problem of 12 million
illegal immigrants, and provide a temporary worker programme.
While the proposed legislation has provision for increasing
H1B visa allocation from the current 65,000 to 115,000,
a bi-partisan group of senators also made it clear that
the "last word on the subject had not been said."
"There are provisions for H1B. There have been others
who wanted to see an expansion of that programme and
there are some members who are concerned about the fact
that some of the existing H1B have been more involved
in shipping jobs overseas rather than creating jobs here,"
said Senator Edward Kennedy while announcing the
bi-partisan agreement on the Immigration legislation.
"As I reflect upon this important accomplishment,
the first step toward a comprehensive immigration bill,
it reminds me of how much the Americans appreciate
the fact that we can work together, and when we work
together that they see positive things," President Bush said.
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!
President Bush and Senator Edward Kennedy are in AGREEMENT on
something?
Does that not indicate to everyone that something is very
wrong????????
Also, where the hell are the spokespeople for American hi-tech
employees, have they NO represenatation?
Citizen Jimserac
Musoulini is grinning from ear to ear at the state of America right
now
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
19 May 2007 09:51:36 AM |
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On May 19, 7:06 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 19, 6:52 am, Perm2Temp Jobs <Perm2T...@Scab-Agents.com> wrote:
Senators agree on new H1-B policyhttp://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2059673.cms
NEW YORK: Raising hopes for hi-tech Indian professionals
seeking jobs in the US, the American Senate has agreed on the
broad contours of a comprehensive immigration reform bill
that seeks to increase the number of H1B visas by 50,000 annually.
The bill also seeks to tackle the problem of 12 million
illegal immigrants, and provide a temporary worker programme.
While the proposed legislation has provision for increasing
H1B visa allocation from the current 65,000 to 115,000,
a bi-partisan group of senators also made it clear that
the "last word on the subject had not been said."
"There are provisions for H1B. There have been others
who wanted to see an expansion of that programme and
there are some members who are concerned about the fact
that some of the existing H1B have been more involved
in shipping jobs overseas rather than creating jobs here,"
said Senator Edward Kennedy while announcing the
bi-partisan agreement on the Immigration legislation.
"As I reflect upon this important accomplishment,
the first step toward a comprehensive immigration bill,
it reminds me of how much the Americans appreciate
the fact that we can work together, and when we work
together that they see positive things," President Bush said.
WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING!!!!!!!!
President Bush and Senator Edward Kennedy are in AGREEMENT on
something?
Does that not indicate to everyone that something is very
wrong????????
Also, where the hell are the spokespeople for American hi-tech
employees, have they NO represenatation?
Well, since Teddy Kennedy thinks curing AIDS is hi-tech,
and Bush thinks curing Micheal Moore is hi-tech,
the only representative US hi-tech has is Steney Hoyer.
Who thinks curing The Indianapolis Colts is hi-tech.
Citizen Jimserac- Hide quoted text -
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| User: "Marcus Aurelius" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
19 May 2007 03:35:27 PM |
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Thank you for the orignial post. H1-b programs have flooded the USA
with foreign born nurses. Approximately 30% of American nurses are now
foreighn born. That clearly indicates that about 30% of native
American nurses have been put out of work.
Further, since these foreign nurses are predominantly female and
minority, they receive preference by law over native citizen American
white male nurses.
Males leave nursing at about twice the rate as females.
Males leave nursing school at a higher rate than female nurses.
Males only comprise about 6% of nurses.
The math is clearly indicative of the fact that the American
government promulgates discrimination in employment against American
nurses, especially American male nurses.
End the H1-b program!
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| User: "Citizen Jimserac" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
20 May 2007 07:49:50 AM |
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On May 19, 4:35 pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the orignial post. H1-b programs have flooded the USA
with foreign born nurses. Approximately 30% of American nurses are now
foreighn born. That clearly indicates that about 30% of native
American nurses have been put out of work.
Further, since these foreign nurses are predominantly female and
minority, they receive preference by law over native citizen American
white male nurses.
Males leave nursing at about twice the rate as females.
Males leave nursing school at a higher rate than female nurses.
Males only comprise about 6% of nurses.
The math is clearly indicative of the fact that the American
government promulgates discrimination in employment against American
nurses, especially American male nurses.
End the H1-b program!
ONE thing we MUST all do is fight back against the phony statistics
that tells us there is a SHORTAGE of nurses, or a shortage of any
other
kind of worker. This is Bill Gates' argument about needing unlimited
H1B's
and it is *****. These phony statistics are used to justify the
H1B imports.
These are the same folks who claim rosy unemployment figures,
forgetting to mention the numbers of people who simply give up
searching for work or else take a job
far below their skills and usual pay.
Citizen Jimserac
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| User: "Starkiller©" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Offshores more U.S. Jobs |
20 May 2007 09:14:49 AM |
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On 20 May 2007 05:49:50 -0700, Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac@gmail.com>
wrote:
On May 19, 4:35 pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the orignial post. H1-b programs have flooded the USA
with foreign born nurses. Approximately 30% of American nurses are now
foreighn born. That clearly indicates that about 30% of native
American nurses have been put out of work.
Further, since these foreign nurses are predominantly female and
minority, they receive preference by law over native citizen American
white male nurses.
Males leave nursing at about twice the rate as females.
Males leave nursing school at a higher rate than female nurses.
Males only comprise about 6% of nurses.
The math is clearly indicative of the fact that the American
government promulgates discrimination in employment against American
nurses, especially American male nurses.
End the H1-b program!
ONE thing we MUST all do is fight back against the phony statistics
that tells us there is a SHORTAGE of nurses, or a shortage of any
other
kind of worker. This is Bill Gates' argument about needing unlimited
H1B's
and it is *****. These phony statistics are used to justify the
H1B imports.
These are the same folks who claim rosy unemployment figures,
forgetting to mention the numbers of people who simply give up
searching for work or else take a job
far below their skills and usual pay.
Citizen Jimserac
And of course you have the number of people who "give up"? And what
do these losers do after they "give up"? Lay down and die?
And you also have the number of people that take on jobs "far below
their skills"?
Of course you don't. You have some ridiculously high imaginary number
in your head that has no basis in fact.
You morons have been talking that ***** for the past 7 years and have
yet to provide any credible proof or numbers to back up your silly
assed little claims. All we ever see are the occasional anectdotal
little stories about the one individual that can't find a job in one
location that suits them.
I would wager that if the presidential election were held tomorrtow
and a democrat were elected, if there were no change in the
unemployment rate, after only a few weeks you dickheads would be
spouting how great everything is employment wise.
Can you all try to be just a little more transparent?
\
Regards
Starkiller©
"Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
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| User: "Citizen Jimserac" |
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20 May 2007 10:44:40 AM |
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On May 20, 10:14 am, Starkiller=A9 <NoSpamSKS_SK...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 20 May 2007 05:49:50 -0700, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On May 19, 4:35 pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the orignial post. H1-b programs have flooded the USA
with foreign born nurses. Approximately 30% of American nurses are now
foreighn born. That clearly indicates that about 30% of native
American nurses have been put out of work.
Further, since these foreign nurses are predominantly female and
minority, they receive preference by law over native citizen American
white male nurses.
Males leave nursing at about twice the rate as females.
Males leave nursing school at a higher rate than female nurses.
Males only comprise about 6% of nurses.
The math is clearly indicative of the fact that the American
government promulgates discrimination in employment against American
nurses, especially American male nurses.
End the H1-b program!
ONE thing we MUST all do is fight back against the phony statistics
that tells us there is a SHORTAGE of nurses, or a shortage of any
other
kind of worker. This is Bill Gates' argument about needing unlimited
H1B's
and it is *****. These phony statistics are used to justify the
H1B imports.
These are the same folks who claim rosy unemployment figures,
forgetting to mention the numbers of people who simply give up
searching for work or else take a job
far below their skills and usual pay.
CitizenJimserac
And of course you have the number of people who "give up"? And what
do these losers do after they "give up"? Lay down and die?
And you also have the number of people that take on jobs "far below
their skills"?
Of course you don't. You have some ridiculously high imaginary number
in your head that has no basis in fact.
You morons have been talking that ***** for the past 7 years and have
yet to provide any credible proof or numbers to back up your silly
assed little claims. All we ever see are the occasional anectdotal
little stories about the one individual that can't find a job in one
location that suits them.
I would wager that if the presidential election were held tomorrtow
and a democrat were elected, if there were no change in the
unemployment rate, after only a few weeks you dickheads would be
spouting how great everything is employment wise.
Can you all try to be just a little more transparent?
\
Regards
Starkiller=A9
"Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
YOU think that there IS a labor shortage?
You think the dept. of labor statistics are accurate??????????
It does NOT matter Democrats or Republicans - don't you see
BUSH and ED Kennedy in COMPLETE AGREEMENT on the
immigration bill, "free" (sic) trade, the necessity of keeping
enormous negative trade balances with some foreign countries?
And I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE that employment
would get any better under democrats than it would under
repubs. Whichever party wins the presidency, it will be
necessary for SERIOUS REFORMS - of our foreign policy, of NAFTA,
of "free" trade and who pays for it and many other reforms
that will be necessary. REFORMS WILL be necessary because all those
newcomers WILL get medicare, medicaid , social security... etc. and
those
systems were already broken BEFORE the newcomers came. You can
imagine
the mess starting about 10 years from now.
Citizen Jimserac
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| User: "lubow" |
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20 May 2007 11:25:31 AM |
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Actually, Mort Zuckerman in US News and World Report set the record straight
in April, 1999. Zuckerman wrote that there is no such thing as a shortage
of technology positions. The problem is keeping people in the field
employed after five years of graduating college.
Zuckerman would not write that had he not have the statistics. And I am
sure there are statistics that are simply buried at the Labor Dept that
prove exactly Zuckerman's point. But when you get down to following the
cash, would the mass media print something favoring the lowly worker or
would the media ignore facts for the sake of protecting its
advertiser/customers?
--
Lubow
"Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179675880.330166.296530@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 20, 10:14 am, Starkiller© <NoSpamSKS_SK...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 20 May 2007 05:49:50 -0700, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On May 19, 4:35 pm, Marcus Aurelius <alexander...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for the orignial post. H1-b programs have flooded the USA
with foreign born nurses. Approximately 30% of American nurses are now
foreighn born. That clearly indicates that about 30% of native
American nurses have been put out of work.
Further, since these foreign nurses are predominantly female and
minority, they receive preference by law over native citizen American
white male nurses.
Males leave nursing at about twice the rate as females.
Males leave nursing school at a higher rate than female nurses.
Males only comprise about 6% of nurses.
The math is clearly indicative of the fact that the American
government promulgates discrimination in employment against American
nurses, especially American male nurses.
End the H1-b program!
ONE thing we MUST all do is fight back against the phony statistics
that tells us there is a SHORTAGE of nurses, or a shortage of any
other
kind of worker. This is Bill Gates' argument about needing unlimited
H1B's
and it is *****. These phony statistics are used to justify the
H1B imports.
These are the same folks who claim rosy unemployment figures,
forgetting to mention the numbers of people who simply give up
searching for work or else take a job
far below their skills and usual pay.
CitizenJimserac
And of course you have the number of people who "give up"? And what
do these losers do after they "give up"? Lay down and die?
And you also have the number of people that take on jobs "far below
their skills"?
Of course you don't. You have some ridiculously high imaginary number
in your head that has no basis in fact.
You morons have been talking that ***** for the past 7 years and have
yet to provide any credible proof or numbers to back up your silly
assed little claims. All we ever see are the occasional anectdotal
little stories about the one individual that can't find a job in one
location that suits them.
I would wager that if the presidential election were held tomorrtow
and a democrat were elected, if there were no change in the
unemployment rate, after only a few weeks you dickheads would be
spouting how great everything is employment wise.
Can you all try to be just a little more transparent?
\
Regards
Starkiller©
"Eta Kooram Nah Smech!"
YOU think that there IS a labor shortage?
You think the dept. of labor statistics are accurate??????????
It does NOT matter Democrats or Republicans - don't you see
BUSH and ED Kennedy in COMPLETE AGREEMENT on the
immigration bill, "free" (sic) trade, the necessity of keeping
enormous negative trade balances with some foreign countries?
And I DON'T BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE that employment
would get any better under democrats than it would under
repubs. Whichever party wins the presidency, it will be
necessary for SERIOUS REFORMS - of our foreign policy, of NAFTA,
of "free" trade and who pays for it and many other reforms
that will be necessary. REFORMS WILL be necessary because all those
newcomers WILL get medicare, medicaid , social security... etc. and
those
systems were already broken BEFORE the newcomers came. You can
imagine
the mess starting about 10 years from now.
Citizen Jimserac
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