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Politics > Politics-USA |
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"Sogobia" |
| Date: |
10 May 2004 01:16:32 PM |
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Bush's political bungling has lost Iraq insurgency war. |
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military solution for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S. military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said. "However, any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that creates a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all of the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives near a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same time, Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S. soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push Shi'ites into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of insurgents or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are too many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This does not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with responsibility over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of U.S. aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the provision of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said. "Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to cooperate in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United States should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
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| User: "BAD news for DEMO RATS" |
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| Title: Sunni triangle nears collapse as Falluja enters peace |
10 May 2004 01:32:24 PM |
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DOA DNC
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military solution for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S. military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said. "However, any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that creates a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all of the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives near a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same time, Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S. soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push Shi'ites into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of insurgents or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are too many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This does not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with responsibility over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of U.S. aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the provision of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said. "Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to cooperate in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United States should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
.
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| User: "Sogobia" |
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| Title: Re: And prisoner torture didn't happen at Abu Graif. |
10 May 2004 01:47:47 PM |
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"BAD news for DEMO RATS" <America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ohro$app$4@216.221.129.222...
DOA DNC
Just because your nurse lets you use the commons' computer doesn't mean your
delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S. military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said. "However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives near a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S. soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
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| User: "Chuck" |
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| Title: Re: And prisoner torture didn't happen at Abu Graif. |
10 May 2004 02:04:18 PM |
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Not sure I would call taking your clothes off torture, but oh well....maybe
for you!
LOL
"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4bbdc63b9be7a871f621d0174f62895@news.teranews.com...
"BAD news for DEMO RATS" <America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ohro$app$4@216.221.129.222...
DOA DNC
Just because your nurse lets you use the commons' computer doesn't mean
your
delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military
solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S. military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said. "However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that
creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and
collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all
of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives near
a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union
of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of
insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This
does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in
the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of
U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for
Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the
provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to
cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority
in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
.
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| User: "Sogobia" |
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| Title: Re: And prisoner torture didn't happen at Abu Graif. |
10 May 2004 02:11:31 PM |
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"Chuck" <chucknospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:SmQnc.40094$Ut1.1151078@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Not sure I would call taking your clothes off torture, but oh
well....maybe
for you!
LOL
If you would pull your head out of your ***** and read the reports you would
know that torture has occurred. In some cases it appears to have lead to
murder.
--
A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4bbdc63b9be7a871f621d0174f62895@news.teranews.com...
"BAD news for DEMO RATS" <America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ohro$app$4@216.221.129.222...
DOA DNC
Just because your nurse lets you use the commons' computer doesn't mean
your
delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military
solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S.
military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said.
"However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that
creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and
collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all
of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives
near
a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a
U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same
time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic
Union
of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push
Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of
insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are
too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This
does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts
to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in
the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with
responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of
U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for
Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the
provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to
cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the
Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United
States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority
in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
.
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| User: "Viejo Vizcacha" |
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| Title: Re: And prisoner torture didn't happen at Abu Graif. |
10 May 2004 05:09:10 PM |
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"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6cef3a5682b03abea79b9301f91a3e64@news.teranews.com...
"Chuck" <chucknospam@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:SmQnc.40094$Ut1.1151078@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Not sure I would call taking your clothes off torture, but oh
well....maybe
for you!
LOL
If you would pull your head out of your ***** and read the reports you would
know that torture has occurred. In some cases it appears to have lead to
murder.
At last count, 25 peple murdered, and in the most horrible circumstances.
To people like Chuck, this deserves a chuckle.
VV
--
A pattern of deception
A hard truth appears to have escaped the notice of the public and received
scant attention from the media: Bush is the first president in American
history to use deceptive propaganda as his main means of communications in
selling his policies. His pattern of deception continues unabated and in
direct conflict with the notion of the public's informed consent that is
central to American democracy.
Walter Williams is professor emeritus at the University of Washington's
Evans School of Public Affairs.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/opinion/6378746.htm
"Sogobia" <windriver2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c4bbdc63b9be7a871f621d0174f62895@news.teranews.com...
"BAD news for DEMO RATS" <America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ohro$app$4@216.221.129.222...
DOA DNC
Just because your nurse lets you use the commons' computer doesn't
mean
your
delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International
Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military
solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S.
military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and
collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said.
"However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that
creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and
collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest
all
of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain
to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives
near
a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a
U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same
time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic
Union
of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of
the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push
Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of
insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah
and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are
too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This
does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its
efforts
to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win
in
the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the
United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with
responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations
could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration
of
U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search
for
Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the
provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report
said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington
should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to
cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the
Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United
States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi
authority
in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for
Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
.
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| User: "BAD news for DEMO RATS" |
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| Title: It gets worse for RATS like you from here on out! |
10 May 2004 02:13:00 PM |
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torture...LOL@U
Like being dragged through streets? Being beheaded like Pearl? Hung from a
bridge?
Visit a Gay Pride Parade (no smart ***** remarks, it's part of the DNC base) and
you'll see more collars, whips, chains and hoods than you've ever seen.
Personally, the terrorists would be really pissed if they know the prisoners ate
pork and got PORKED every day.
They wiggle like greased pigs and squeal just as loud as one stuck in mud.
Sogobia wrote:
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delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
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Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S. military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said. "However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives near a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S. soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
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http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
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Meanwhile, the independent Army Times newspaper, widely read in the U.S.
military, on Monday rebuked Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, for "a failure of leadership," adding that
accountability might mean "relieving top leaders from duty in a time of
war."
70% of 44,000+ polled said Rumsfeld should resign.
Another rightwing lunatic attempted a rebut: "BAD news for DEMO RATS"
<America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ok7s$app$a@216.221.129.222...
torture...LOL@U
Like being dragged through streets? Being beheaded like Pearl? Hung from a
bridge?
All had a choice as to whether to be in Iraq or Pakistan.
Visit a Gay Pride Parade (no smart ***** remarks, it's part of the DNC base)
and
you'll see more collars, whips, chains and hoods than you've ever seen.
Personally, the terrorists would be really pissed if they know the
prisoners ate
pork and got PORKED every day.
They wiggle like greased pigs and squeal just as loud as one stuck in mud.
Sogobia wrote:
"BAD news for DEMO RATS" <America@WINSAgain.org> wrote in message
news:c7ohro$app$4@216.221.129.222...
DOA DNC
Just because your nurse lets you use the commons' computer doesn't mean
your
delusions are gone otherwise you wouldn't be institutionalized.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Week-by-Week Numbers Show Stable Race
Election 2004
Week Ending May 6
Bush44.1%
Kerry45.9%
RasmussenReports.com
Sogobia wrote:
Report: U.S. has lost Iraq
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, May 7, 2004
The United States can no longer win the insurgency war in Iraq
militarily,
according to a new report.
The Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies
asserted
in a new report that the United States no longer has a military
solution
for
Iraq. Authored by Anthony Cordesman, the report said any U.S.
military
solution would result in massive civilian casualties and collateral
damage
and fail to end the Shi'ite or Sunni insurgency.
"The U.S. can of course defeat the Iraqis," the report said.
"However,
any
military solution is now likely to be the kind of 'victory' that
creates
a
new firestorm over excessive force, civilian casualties, and
collateral
damage. At the same time, the U.S. cannot hope to kill or arrest all
of
the
Sunni and foreign insurgents that exist now and is almost certain to
create
far more than it destroys."
On Thursday, a suicide attacker blew up a car full of explosives
near a
checkpoint to the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad. Six Iraqis and a
U.S.
soldier were killed, Middle East Newsline reported. At the same
time,
Iraqi
insurgents destroyed the headquarters of the pro-U.S. Patriotic
Union of
Kurdistan in Baaquba.
Earlier, U.S. troops launched what was termed the largest military
operation
against Sadr in Karbala and Najaf. At least 15 Iraqis and a U.S.
soldier
were killed.
The report discussed Iranian-backed cleric Moqtada Sadr, head of the
Mahdi
Army, and warned against any U.S. attempt to assassinate him. The
killing of
Sadr, the report said, would create a martyr that would push
Shi'ites
into
an alliance with the Sunnis in a development that would ensure
nationwide
resistance.
"At this point, there simply is no way to eliminate cadres of
insurgents
or
to disarm the most threatening areas," the report said. "Falujah and
similar
areas have too much popular support for the insurgents. There are
too
many
arms that can be hidden and too many points of vulnerability. This
does
not
mean the U.S. should give up fighting the insurgents or its efforts
to
disarm them. It does mean the U.S. must accept that it cannot win in
the
sense of eliminating them or turning hostile areas into secure and
disarmed
areas."
Cordesman, who completed a tour of the Middle East, said the United
States
lacks viable options other than to empower Iraqis with
responsibility
over
security. He played down the prospect that the United Nations could
create
stability or political legitimacy.
Other U.S. options cited by the report included the acceleration of
U.S.
aid
to the Iraqi military and security forces as well as the search for
Arab
military training and support. Such an effort must include the
provision
of
a broad-based Iraqi military command.
"Forget contract regulations on buying equipment," the report said.
"Deliver
everything necessary and worry about the details later."
Another recommendation was that U.S. military commanders should be
empowered
to approve security aid to Iraq. At the same time, Washington should
threaten to leave Iraq if an interim Iraqi leadership fails to
cooperate
in
the effort to form a stable and efficient government.
The United States should also continue to expand the role of the
Iraqi
security forces. At the same time, the report said, the United
States
should
not repeat the "Israeli mistake of assuming that any Iraqi authority
in
hostile areas can be counted on to provide security for Americans."
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_7.html
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
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