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From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
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Ya got that? Good.
Harry
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06 Aug 2003 01:29:32 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
I'm thinking about declaring for the ballot.
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"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on —
shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
—George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"Don't be fooled again"
-Branden Wolner, August 1, 2003.
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06 Aug 2003 06:44:44 PM |
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Branden Wolner wrote:
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
I'm thinking about declaring for the ballot.
You'd get my vote.
So far I'm pulling for Larry Flynt.
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"If the Lord can see his way clear to bless the Republican Party the way
it's been carrying on, then the rest of us ought to get it without even
asking."
- Will Rogers
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07 Aug 2003 08:06:13 AM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com>...
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
Which would be bad enough in some barely populated shithole state like
Utah or one of the Dakotas but this being California which is so
important to the economic well being of this nation chaos like this
could really really hurt the Bottom Line, and God Knows with Bush
Fucking this economy up to the point where we may be looking at
another Great Depression, thats the last thing we need!
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07 Aug 2003 09:27:23 AM |
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"Tabernacle" <tabernacle2002@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
I invite the Democratic Party to try, but this is the first time in 90 years
Californians have had a recall of the Governor actually qualify for the
ballot.
Sort of like the way Democrats became the minority party in the first place
isn't it?
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07 Aug 2003 05:40:02 PM |
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"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote in message news:<3f326231@news.sti.net>...
"Tabernacle" <tabernacle2002@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
I invite the Democratic Party to try, but this is the first time in 90 years
Californians have had a recall of the Governor actually qualify for the
ballot.
Sort of like the way Democrats became the minority party in the first place
isn't it?
Hey Man I didn't say it had to be a Democrat that would go out and get
the 950,000 names as there are scores of organizations (right wing and
left wing) big enough out there in California to either organize the
needed manpower and or rich enough to finance such a recall effort,
because after all if one guy can pay for the first one literally from
out of his own pocket, then pray tell what is the limiting factor???
I mean all you would really need is 1,000 volunteers (or paid workers
even) getting around say 15 names a day each (on average) at which
point you would then have about 1,000,000,000 John+Jane Does in a
little over two months!
And that boys and girls will be pure CHAOS as whoever wins out there
is then not going to be able to do Jack ***** about the budget problems
(or anything else for that matter) as anything they do is going to
make them unpopular enough that 950,000 people in a state of tens of
millions of people will then literally stand in line to sign!
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08 Aug 2003 07:01:02 PM |
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"Tarver Engineering" <jtarver@sti.net> wrote in message news:<3f32d878@news.sti.net>...
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall
Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team
has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
I invite the Democratic Party to try, but this is the first time in 90
years
Californians have had a recall of the Governor actually qualify for the
ballot.
Sort of like the way Democrats became the minority party in the first
place
isn't it?
Hey Man I didn't say it had to be a Democrat that would go out and get
the 950,000 names as there are scores of organizations (right wing and
left wing) big enough out there in California to either organize the
needed manpower and or rich enough to finance such a recall effort,
because after all if one guy can pay for the first one literally from
out of his own pocket, then pray tell what is the limiting factor???
In 90 years there have been 4 attempts to recall a Governor in California,
of those efforts, only Davis will make the ballot. What you write is way
more rediculess than Nader calling for the Impeachment of GW.
Actually there were thirty-two attempts against the last five governors.
Michael
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07 Aug 2003 02:27:26 PM |
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(Tabernacle) wrote in message news:<6449fb5e.0308070506.4ec8744e@posting.google.com>...
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com>...
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Which would be bad enough in some barely populated shithole state like
Utah or one of the Dakotas but this being California which is so
important to the economic well being of this nation chaos like this
could really really hurt the Bottom Line, and God Knows with Bush
Fucking this economy up to the point where we may be looking at
another Great Depression, thats the last thing we need!
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07 Aug 2003 02:37:33 PM |
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"r_c_brown" <r_c_brown@hushmail.com> wrote in message
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Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Davis sucks.
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07 Aug 2003 06:11:42 PM |
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In article <3f32aae0@news.sti.net>, Tarver Engineering says...
"r_c_brown" <r_c_brown@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb730bf.0308071127.5e387389@posting.google.com...
<snip>
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Davis sucks.
Well pray tell, just what did Davis do to deserve to be booted out of office?
I'm afraid that the California electorate is just being manipulated, a few are
even smart enough to even realize it.
"They say if you outlaw guns, only outlaws and criminals will have guns. Well
,*****, those are precisely the people who need them." George Carlin
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07 Aug 2003 07:32:09 PM |
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"David" <David_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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In article <3f32aae0@news.sti.net>, Tarver Engineering says...
"r_c_brown" <r_c_brown@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb730bf.0308071127.5e387389@posting.google.com...
<snip>
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on
Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as
anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find
their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Davis sucks.
Well pray tell, just what did Davis do to deserve to be booted out of
office?
Davis lied his way to reelection and ran a dishonest reelection campaign.
I'm afraid that the California electorate is just being manipulated, a few
are
even smart enough to even realize it.
I am afraid you are an idiot.
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08 Aug 2003 06:59:16 PM |
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David <David_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:<bgumbe099@drn.newsguy.com>...
In article <3f32aae0@news.sti.net>, Tarver Engineering says...
"r_c_brown" <r_c_brown@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb730bf.0308071127.5e387389@posting.google.com...
<snip>
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Davis sucks.
Well pray tell, just what did Davis do to deserve to be booted out of office?
I'm afraid that the California electorate is just being manipulated, a few are
even smart enough to even realize it.
Manipulated by WHOM?
"They say if you outlaw guns, only outlaws and criminals will have guns. Well
,*****, those are precisely the people who need them." George Carlin
George must think that the LAPD, NYPD, Chicago PD, and BATF are
outlaws and criminals. He might actually be right.
Michael
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08 Aug 2003 12:39:18 PM |
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In article <3f33be0c.10075955@news.newshosting.com>, Joe Mama says...
On 7 Aug 2003 16:11:42 -0700, David <David_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
In article <3f32aae0@news.sti.net>, Tarver Engineering says...
"r_c_brown" <r_c_brown@hushmail.com> wrote in message
news:bb730bf.0308071127.5e387389@posting.google.com...
<snip>
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Davis sucks.
Well pray tell, just what did Davis do to deserve to be booted out of office?
He did nothing. As in...
nothing about California's energy crisis,
nothing to help develop the state's budget,
nothing to correct the erroneous deficit figures being reported...
What could the Davis do about the Blackouts? Not very much. He had to make deals
and operate in very difficult circumstances. Since it was his first term, I
don't think you can blame him for being responsible for for causing
the situation. If anything blame his predecessor "Pete Wilson".
The Feds did very little to help with that situation, under the "leadership" of
George Bush". The result was alot of individuals, families and businesses large
and small were hurt because of soaring energy prices..
And the present state budget problems are probably the of that little energy
problem we had back then, and also the federal budget problem are also affecting
this state economy too thanks to 9-11 and Reckless Federal spending..
Of course, being a good little liberal you probably think that people
who 'do nothing' belong on the government dole, right?
I'm afraid that the California electorate is just being manipulated, a few are
even smart enough to even realize it.
Yeah, unlike Davis' manipulation of them prior to the Republican
primary, right?
What the *****, did Davis do? He WORKED his way into the governor mansion, who,
how did he manipulate anyone.
Now I'm beginning to understand why someone like Arnold Swartzenegger, could be
the Media's "poster boy" for the Governors mansion . Because you'd have to have
some truly "Superman" to survive as Governor in California.
"They say if you outlaw guns, only outlaws and criminals will have guns. Well
,*****, those are precisely the people who need them." George Carlin
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08 Aug 2003 06:12:05 PM |
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On 8 Aug 2003 15:06:42 -0700, (r_c_brown)
wrote:
Since it was his first term, I
don't think you can blame him for being responsible for for causing
the situation. If anything blame his predecessor "Pete Wilson".
Why? The ill-conceived and poorly-name "deregulation" legislation was
introduced by Mr. Peace (a Democrat) and passed unanimously by the
Legislature. Mr. Wilson (a Republican) signed it into law. It was a
bipartisan effort. It also set up the environment through which
companies like Enron could game the system.
The point remains though that Davis had nothing to do with how the
deck was stacked for fraud when he took office. Similarly federal
issues triggered the recession and CA is no worse off than any other
state in that regard. The recall folks are capitalizing on hard times
to make davis the scape goat and to try to get a republican in without
having to run a real one on one election. A mere 15% of the vote may
determine the next governor.
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
-President Teddy Roosevelt
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08 Aug 2003 06:09:34 PM |
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On 8 Aug 2003 15:06:42 -0700, (r_c_brown)
wrote:
What could the Davis do about the Blackouts? Not very much. He had to make deals
and operate in very difficult circumstances.
I agree that he was in a very difficult position. He *could* have
involved more law-making folks in his contract negotiations; I don't
know that it would have helped. I remember that this was a criticism
at the time, and Mr. Davis was seen as trying to be a "hero" by some.
???
Legislators do not negotiate contracts for the state. Talking about
stepping over the line of constitutional authorities! Yikes.
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
-President Teddy Roosevelt
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08 Aug 2003 06:13:39 PM |
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On 8 Aug 2003 15:06:42 -0700, (r_c_brown)
wrote:
What the *****, did Davis do? He WORKED his way into the governor mansion, who,
how did he manipulate anyone.
Some people believe that Mr. Davis misled voters on the size of the
deficit right before the last election.
Sort of like our current resident of the WHitehouse has to keep
revising his deficit figures?
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public."
-President Teddy Roosevelt
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r_c_brown wrote:
tabernacle2002@hotmail.com (Tabernacle) wrote in message news:<6449fb5e.0308070506.4ec8744e@posting.google.com>...
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com>...
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Do you really believe that an administration who has created a $450
billion deficit cares one whit about finances?
It all has to do with partisan ideology.
And this administration oozes with it.
Which would be bad enough in some barely populated shithole state like
Utah or one of the Dakotas but this being California which is so
important to the economic well being of this nation chaos like this
could really really hurt the Bottom Line, and God Knows with Bush
Fucking this economy up to the point where we may be looking at
another Great Depression, thats the last thing we need!
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"If the Lord can see his way clear to bless the Republican Party the way
it's been carrying on, then the rest of us ought to get it without even
asking."
- Will Rogers
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Tempest <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F32F248.31BCDC12@hotmail.com>...
r_c_brown wrote:
tabernacle2002@hotmail.com (Tabernacle) wrote in message news:<6449fb5e.0308070506.4ec8744e@posting.google.com>...
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<rlh2jvkte3ko3sd8msrvhmoprfvpp9rvo2@4ax.com>...
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Man I think the Republickcans have not only opened the lid on Pandoras
Box on this recall vote, they smashed the damn box to smithereens as
now whoever wins is only going to be Governor for about a year (maybe
not even that long)before someone gets another 950,000 names on paper
in order to do another recall election!
And then another and another and....well you get the picture as anyone
who now becomes Governor of California and then does something that
even Pisses of 5% of the population of the State could then find their
***** being thrown out of office (or at the very least then having been
tied up in knots) as they then have to rewin a race they already won
just months ago!
No offence intended, but I rather doubt that this will be a regular
occurance. This is, after all, the first time a recall of a governor
has ever gotten this far in California. It would be financially
impractical to try and take on a popular governor, or even one with
just ~50% ratings.
Do you really believe that an administration who has created a $450
billion deficit cares one whit about finances?
Did this administration finance the recall effort?
It all has to do with partisan ideology.
And this administration oozes with it.
It's an epidemic.
Which would be bad enough in some barely populated shithole state like
Utah or one of the Dakotas but this being California which is so
important to the economic well being of this nation chaos like this
could really really hurt the Bottom Line, and God Knows with Bush
Fucking this economy up to the point where we may be looking at
another Great Depression, thats the last thing we need!
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA is
directly linked to the White House.
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06 Aug 2003 03:00:05 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
jpt
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit by Cheney.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
You're not only a bad liar - you don't think too well on your feet, either.
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06 Aug 2003 03:03:42 PM |
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"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:c6dYa.533$9m4.5734@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit by
Cheney.
By then, the gamming of California was already done, my idiot.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated
by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you
think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
CALPERS is the original partner in Enron's original scam, my idiot.
You're not only a bad liar - you don't think too well on your feet,
either.
De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
Davis screwed the pooch, now it is time for him to be removed.
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06 Aug 2003 03:30:04 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:c6dYa.533$9m4.5734@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit by
Cheney.
By then, the gamming of California was already done, my idiot.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated
by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you
think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
CALPERS is the original partner in Enron's original scam, my idiot.
CALPERS is a retirement fund. You are a liar.
You're not only a bad liar - you don't think too well on your feet,
either.
De Nile is not just a river in Egypt.
Davis screwed the pooch, now it is time for him to be removed.
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06 Aug 2003 03:40:09 PM |
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"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F31664A.4060405@notospam.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:c6dYa.533$9m4.5734@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall
Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team
has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit
by
Cheney.
By then, the gamming of California was already done, my idiot.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated
by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you
think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
CALPERS is the original partner in Enron's original scam, my idiot.
CALPERS is a retirement fund. You are a liar.
CALPERS is Enron's Raptor partner, my idiot.
Davis was gamming the system to get Gore elected and the whole thing has
blown up in his face.
Dump Davis October 7th.
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06 Aug 2003 04:20:39 PM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F31664A.4060405@notospam.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:c6dYa.533$9m4.5734@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall
Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team
has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory
Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit
by
Cheney.
By then, the gamming of California was already done, my idiot.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated
by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you
think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
CALPERS is the original partner in Enron's original scam, my idiot.
CALPERS is a retirement fund. You are a liar.
CALPERS is Enron's Raptor partner, my idiot.
No, Enron's raptor partner was Calpine, moron. CALPERS is a retirement fund.
Davis was gamming the system to get Gore elected and the whole thing has
blown up in his face.
How long have you had a drug problem?
Dump Davis October 7th.
Take a dump on Tarver today.
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06 Aug 2003 06:58:30 PM |
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Server 13 wrote:
Tarver Engineering wrote:
Here's an interesting bit of news.
There's a guy name Thomas Tarver who lives in the same area of
California that the poster "tarver engineering" lives in. Thomas Tarver
is a Repug council member in the town he lives in. Thomas Tarver has
been accused of fraud and illegal personal enrichment in a land deal
that the city council, which he is a member of, approved.
So let's see... "tarver engineering" is a Repug, Thomas Tarver lives in
the same area and is also a Repug, and Thomas Tarver is a crook.
So now inquiring minds want to know, is "tarver engineering" the crooked
Thomas Tarver?
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
jpt
And allowed by the ex-Enron head of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
(placed there by Bush) to continue, just one day after a personal visit by Cheney.
What a dumbass you are, blaming a state retirement system devastated by Ken
Lay and his still-unpunished fraud mill with Cheney's support. Did you think I
couldn't find out what CALPERS was?
You're not only a bad liar - you don't think too well on your feet, either.
--
"If the Lord can see his way clear to bless the Republican Party the way
it's been carrying on, then the rest of us ought to get it without even
asking."
- Will Rogers
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On 31 Jul 2003 11:08:26 -0700, Ozymandias
<Ozymandias_member@newsguy.com> wrote:
So far we Voters have survived, George W. Bush controversial inauguration (
Coup) as President, the destruction of the World Trade Towers in New York, and
in California..."Rolling Blackouts" (where the State didn't have enough energy
to keep people homes lit at times, and energy companies supplying energy to
California were asking large amount of money. The result... energy prices for
the home owner during the summer of "Rolling Blackouts" doubled, tripled,
quadrupled...small businesses closed up, and the State went Billions of dollars
into debt, cause of the energy companies. The Governor at the time this happened
was Gray Davis.
I think the Recall effort going on now in California is another American
disaster Courtesy Of the Bush Administration and i don't think many people in
California recognize this as yet...I think the Bush administration is primarily
responsible for the recall effort here in California....funded by BUSH'S TAX
CUTS. Everyone is was talking about how Bush's Tax cuts would mostly benefit the
rich..then the trickle down effect would help the poor, middle class citizens of
California. But no this recall effort is showing how Bush's tax cuts would hurt
poor,middle working class voters particularly in California.
The recall effort was funded by a guy named Daryl Issa, Congressman, and Car
alarm magnate. I just wonder if the Recall effort in California, is not so much
the result of a VOTER MANDATE, but a powergrab, funded by George Bush's tax
cuts.
Say there, podner...ya'll dribbled some ***** on your chin. Probly
might want to wipe it off before going to your paranoid therapy
session.
Could be paranoid *****, but perhaps you are blind, and not from California!
Here's the facts as I see it.
1. Everyone was talking in the Media about the effects of G.W's tax cuts, the
conclusion seemed to be that the wealthy would benefit from them more...
2. No one had very many complaints about the Governorship of Gray Davis, albeit
that he a democrat, and he is Governor at the time of a economic disaster in
California. First with the Power shortages in the Summer of 2000. High energy
demand and low energy output by Energy providers, particularly by energy
providers Like ENRON (friends of G.W's). These energy providers were blamed for
causing the energy shortages in 2000, by deliberately reducing there power
output, and increasing there rates dramatically. This helped put the state in
billions of dollars in debt. Davis and other legislators in California pointed
the blame in part at the Fed's, for not putting a cap on energy prices on
California, when they could have...Not only did this help the State go in debt,
it effected low, middle ,wealthy business/families in California as they had to
struggle to pay double ,tripled ,quadrupled utility bills. Some businesses
closed down.
Also there was some controversy about whether California is going to let Oil
Companies drill for oil off the Coast of California, California has a relatively
unspoiled coastline, and alot of nice real estate near coastal areas of the
State. The state under Gray Davis has blocked drilling of the State at this
time.
So I don't think you can say that the Bush administration and the Davis
administration are on the best of friendly terms.
3. Why else would presumably a normal rational man, like George Bush, would
propose "Tax Cuts" at a time in the Country when spending is at an all time
high, the country budget deficit has grown into the trillions. Why would he do
this?
By doing that maybe he gives businesses and wealthy people a reason to invest in
America. But he also fattens his own coffers by, by helping insure that these
wealthy people and businesses help invest in his presidency at the next
election, it also hurts his political enemies,democrats, people like Gray Davis.
Because with the new infusion of money into the hands of the well-to-do, they
may try to gain what they crave the most...political power. So maybe some of
this money is going into the hand of politicians, not the best place for it.
Case in point, the recall effort of Governor Davis in California, by political
opportunist like Darryl Issa. Darryl Issa a well-to do businessman and
politician, saw an opportunity, with the new infusion of money, probably
provided by the Bush administration's tax cuts, saw an opportunity to depose one
of his political enemies ,Gray Davis.
It looked innocent enough, what could be more democratic than having a petition
drive? Nothing, except not too many voters probably hadn't too many complaints
about Governor Gray Davis ,so why should he be removed from office?
4. Besides the petition process in California can be very expensive,
particularly if you get professional organization to do the signature gathering
for you...it probably cost into the millions of dollars. Average people would
have alot of difficult getting an initiative on the ballot without having these
professional petition organization to to the gathering for you. I know I used to
work for one of them. Those petition gatherers probably got paid, $1.00 per
signature they got. The bottom line is were and why does someone like Darryl
Issa who funded this recall process get the money to pay for such a thing? Could
it possibly be funded in part by G.W's tax cuts?
_______________________________________________________________________________
This recall process has been presented by the media so far in California has a
boon, and all its participant winners. Nothing could be further from the truth,
in my opinion. These people are promoting an election that has already been
compromised. The losers in this recall might be the voters in California.
Based on the light of this information, I don't see how recalling Governor
Davis could be a good thing for democracy in California. You have a recall
process not funded by a mandate of the voters. The Recall process may be
influenced by political parties hostile to the interest of the voters in
California, i.e the Bush administration (Republican). Many people questioned the
way George Bush got into office, has if this Country is becoming a Third World
Banana republic where Political "coup d'etat" are the way for political change.
George Bush has managed to export his political genesis in his foreign/state
policy, like in Afghanistan, Iraq, and now in California.
I'm not particularly a fan of Gray davis, nor a "Bush Basher", but it seem to me
if YOUR For drilling for oil off the coast of California, vote against Gray
Davis, if your for the deregulation of energy in California,thus higher utility
bills, and letting the crooks get away from the last fiasco they caused from
soaring utility rates, and low energy output vote against Grey Davis.
"One of the best expressions in the English language is ,"who says so?" I
guarantee, if you keep saying, "who says so?" long enough ,sooner or later
someone will take you into custody." George Carlin
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
jpt
Liar.
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| Title: Re: California recall link to White House sez California recall is not linked to White House. |
06 Aug 2003 03:45:02 PM |
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"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
Liar.
01/21/2002 - Updated 10:41 PM ET
Trouble grew in Enron's interlinking partnerships
By Matt Krantz, USA TODAY
The roots of Enron's more than 3,000 partnerships can be traced to at least
1993, when Enron teamed with the California Public Retirement System.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/energy/2002-01-22-enron-sidebar.htm
Chewco: In 1997, Enron and the California Public Employees' Retirement
System (CalPERS) were joint venture partners in an off-balance-sheet
investment vehicle called Joint Energy Development Limited Partnership
(JEDI). When CalPERS wanted to cash out its investment in JEDI prior to
investing in a larger Enron venture, Fastow and others at Enron formed a
special purpose entity called Chewco to buy CalPERS' interest in JEDI
thereby allowing Enron to continue accounting for JEDI as an
off-balance-sheet entity
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2002-143.htm
CALPERS and Davis gamed the system.
jpt
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| Title: Re: California recall link to White House sez California recall is not linked to White House. |
06 Aug 2003 05:29:21 PM |
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"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F3165CF.9050207@notospam.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall
Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team
has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
Liar.
01/21/2002 - Updated 10:41 PM ET
Trouble grew in Enron's interlinking partnerships
By Matt Krantz, USA TODAY
The roots of Enron's more than 3,000 partnerships can be traced to at
least
1993, when Enron teamed with the California Public Retirement System.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/energy/2002-01-22-enron-sidebar.htm
Chewco: In 1997, Enron and the California Public Employees' Retirement
System (CalPERS) were joint venture partners in an off-balance-sheet
investment vehicle called Joint Energy Development Limited Partnership
(JEDI). When CalPERS wanted to cash out its investment in JEDI prior to
investing in a larger Enron venture, Fastow and others at Enron formed a
special purpose entity called Chewco to buy CalPERS' interest in JEDI
thereby allowing Enron to continue accounting for JEDI as an
off-balance-sheet entity
Which proves that CALPERS was not involved with Enron at the time that
the gaming took place.
CALPERS began the gaming of the system, my idiot.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2002-143.htm
CALPERS and Davis gamed the system.
See above.
Worse still, Davis sold electricity at below cost in order to keep the
servers turning, such that the Clinton recession would be pushed passed the
2000 election. The system was gamed all rignt, by Davis and for Democrats.
Dump Davis, October 7th.
jpt
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| Title: Re: California recall link to White House sez California recall isnot linked to White House. |
07 Aug 2003 10:34:39 AM |
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F3172CB.3070302@notospam.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
news:3F3165CF.9050207@notospam.com...
Tarver Engineering wrote:
"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:7CcYa.514$9m4.5858@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu...
Harry Hope wrote:
From The Mercury News, 8/6/03:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/6467456.htm
State Bush strategist takes role in recall
SHE SAYS ADVICE IS NOT LINKED TO WHITE HOUSE
By Dion Nissenbaum
Mercury News
SACRAMENTO -
After steering clear of California's tumultuous attempt to recall
Gov.
Gray Davis for months, a member of President Bush's political team
has
begun to drum up support for the attempt to oust the Democratic
governor.
Mindy Tucker, a veteran Republican strategist and Bush campaign
adviser in California, said Tuesday that she had begun offering
strategic advice to a group of women who support the recall.
But she said her advice was not linked to the White House or to the
president's re-election campaign.
______________________________________________________
Ya got that? Good.
Harry
Hardly satisfying, considering that Enron's $12 billion gaming of CA
is
directly linked to the White House.
Not at all, Enron's gamming of California was sponsored by CALPERS and
goes
directly to the Govenor's mansion. CALPERS is the Raptor partner.
Liar.
01/21/2002 - Updated 10:41 PM ET
Trouble grew in Enron's interlinking partnerships
By Matt Krantz, USA TODAY
The roots of Enron's more than 3,000 partnerships can be traced to at
least
1993, when Enron teamed with the California Public Retirement System.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/energy/2002-01-22-enron-sidebar.htm
Chewco: In 1997, Enron and the California Public Employees' Retirement
System (CalPERS) were joint venture partners in an off-balance-sheet
investment vehicle called Joint Energy Development Limited Partnership
(JEDI). When CalPERS wanted to cash out its investment in JEDI prior to
investing in a larger Enron venture, Fastow and others at Enron formed a
special purpose entity called Chewco to buy CalPERS' interest in JEDI
thereby allowing Enron to continue accounting for JEDI as an
off-balance-sheet entity
Which proves that CALPERS was not involved with Enron at the time that
the gaming took place.
CALPERS began the gaming of the system, my idiot.
Cite please.
http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2002-143.htm
CALPERS and Davis gamed the system.
See above.
Worse still, Davis sold electricity at below cost in order to keep the
servers turning, such that the Clinton recession would be pushed passed the
2000 election. The system was gamed all rignt, by Davis and for Democrats.
Cite please.
The best way to get Tarver is ask for proof. He's got none.
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| Title: Re: California recall link to White House sez California recall is not linked to White House. |
07 Aug 2003 11:14:32 AM |
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"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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Tarver Engineering wrote:
"steveo" <steve@notospam.com> wrote in message
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Which proves that CALPERS was not involved with Enron at the time that
the gaming took place.
CALPERS began the gaming of the system, my idiot.
Cite please.
I posted two for you yesturday, you can do your own google search now.
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