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"Charles Farley" |
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28 Apr 2004 07:59:12 PM |
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Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Almad and thousands of other Muslims, taking advantage of a provision
of the law in the province of Ontario, can now decide some civil
disputes under sharia, including family disagreements and inheritance,
business and divorce issues, using tribunals that include imams,
Muslim elders and lawyers. While it is less than full implementation
of sharia, local leaders consider it a significant step.
Muslim promoters of sharia arbitration said that no cases had been
decided but that the process is set. Islamic leaders created an
Islamic Court of Civil Justice last fall and that organization, in
turn, has chosen arbitrators, who have undergone training in sharia
and Canadian civil law, according to organizers and participants.
Sharia is based on the Koran, which includes the teachings of Islam
and revelations by the prophet Muhammad. According to Muslim beliefs,
the Koran provides the divine rules for behavior, including rules
about marriage, business and inheritance. Muslims must abstain from
stealing, lying, killing, adultery and drinking alcohol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
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| User: "magnulus" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
29 Apr 2004 09:57:11 AM |
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Glad I'm not in Canada. I always thought they were a bit soft in the head
and heart.
That ungrateful Somali ***** should have stayed in her shithole (note
Canadians, please, please deport idiots like this... we don't need more
terrorists jumping the border). You live in the West you live under secural
laws. "Family disagreements"? That means they'll perscribe beatings and
rape for the wife? Maybe they'll be able to take their girls overseas to be
mutilated?
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| User: "cLIeNUX user" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
28 Apr 2004 09:50:02 PM |
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Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
Yo, Farley, how is this intolerance? Sounds pretty tolerant to me.
Rick (Richard Allen) Hohensee
The Responsible Party
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Almad and thousands of other Muslims, taking advantage of a provision
of the law in the province of Ontario, can now decide some civil
disputes under sharia, including family disagreements and inheritance,
business and divorce issues, using tribunals that include imams,
Muslim elders and lawyers. While it is less than full implementation
of sharia, local leaders consider it a significant step.
Muslim promoters of sharia arbitration said that no cases had been
decided but that the process is set. Islamic leaders created an
Islamic Court of Civil Justice last fall and that organization, in
turn, has chosen arbitrators, who have undergone training in sharia
and Canadian civil law, according to organizers and participants.
Sharia is based on the Koran, which includes the teachings of Islam
and revelations by the prophet Muhammad. According to Muslim beliefs,
the Koran provides the divine rules for behavior, including rules
about marriage, business and inheritance. Muslims must abstain from
stealing, lying, killing, adultery and drinking alcohol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
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| User: "Charles Farley" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
29 Apr 2004 06:22:07 AM |
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r@cLIeNUX. (cLIeNUX user) wrote:
Charles Farley wrote:
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
Yo, Farley, how is this intolerance? Sounds pretty tolerant to me.
Well, liberals and "progressives" never did have a problem
with tyranny (Cuba, Soviet Union, etc) and now apparently
the Taliban and Saudi Arabia...
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| User: "Richard" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
29 Apr 2004 10:27:29 PM |
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(Charles Farley) wrote in message news:<a12aa624.0404281659.71c5e21d@posting.google.com>...
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Canada is famous for kowtowing to the sub-humans it lets in. Better to
have a shipload of bubonic rats land in the Atlantic and Pacific ports.
Kill all Canadian Liberals and the problem will end.
-Rich
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
30 Apr 2004 12:17:40 AM |
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"Richard" <rander3127@rogers.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ec75e55a.0404291927.aa95b86@posting.google.com...
CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com (Charles Farley) wrote in message
news:<a12aa624.0404281659.71c5e21d@posting.google.com>...
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Canada is famous for kowtowing to the sub-humans it lets in. Better to
have a shipload of bubonic rats land in the Atlantic and Pacific ports.
Kill all Canadian Liberals and the problem will end.
-Rich
Sieg heil!
You know, you could have made a fortune in 1930's Germany...
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| User: "Tempest" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
30 Apr 2004 12:31:47 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
"Richard" <rander3127@rogers.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ec75e55a.0404291927.aa95b86@posting.google.com...
CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com (Charles Farley) wrote in message
news:<a12aa624.0404281659.71c5e21d@posting.google.com>...
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Canada is famous for kowtowing to the sub-humans it lets in. Better to
have a shipload of bubonic rats land in the Atlantic and Pacific ports.
Kill all Canadian Liberals and the problem will end.
-Rich
Sieg heil!
You know, you could have made a fortune in 1930's Germany...
Especially if his last name was Bush.
--
"The tyranny of a prince is not so dangerous to the public welfare as
the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
- Baron de Montesquieu, 1748
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
30 Apr 2004 03:22:55 AM |
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On 29 Apr 2004 20:27:29 -0700, (Richard) wrote
or quoted :
Canada is famous for kowtowing to the sub-humans it lets in.
and you are famous for your childish racist remarks.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
29 Apr 2004 11:09:09 PM |
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Richard wrote:
CircularErrorZero@yahoo.com (Charles Farley) wrote in message news:<a12aa624.0404281659.71c5e21d@posting.google.com>...
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Canada is famous for kowtowing to the sub-humans it lets in. Better to
have a shipload of bubonic rats land in the Atlantic and Pacific ports.
Kill all Canadian Liberals and the problem will end.
-Rich
Ah, the moderate approach.
I have no problem with allowing people to settle their civil disputes
outside of the courts, and in accordance to whatever system of rules all
parties agree to adhere to.
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| User: "Jaberwokie" |
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| Title: Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance, Allows Islamic Courts |
28 Apr 2004 09:06:22 PM |
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Aparently the liberal leaders of Canada are either afraid of the Muslims
or are going to disolve the Union.
Charles Farley wrote:
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Almad and thousands of other Muslims, taking advantage of a provision
of the law in the province of Ontario, can now decide some civil
disputes under sharia, including family disagreements and inheritance,
business and divorce issues, using tribunals that include imams,
Muslim elders and lawyers. While it is less than full implementation
of sharia, local leaders consider it a significant step.
Muslim promoters of sharia arbitration said that no cases had been
decided but that the process is set. Islamic leaders created an
Islamic Court of Civil Justice last fall and that organization, in
turn, has chosen arbitrators, who have undergone training in sharia
and Canadian civil law, according to organizers and participants.
Sharia is based on the Koran, which includes the teachings of Islam
and revelations by the prophet Muhammad. According to Muslim beliefs,
the Koran provides the divine rules for behavior, including rules
about marriage, business and inheritance. Muslims must abstain from
stealing, lying, killing, adultery and drinking alcohol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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30 Apr 2004 03:22:13 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:06:22 -0500, Jaberwokie <Jaberwokie@Global.net>
wrote or quoted :
Aparently the liberal leaders of Canada are either afraid of the Muslims
or are going to disolve the Union.
Obviously both parties to the dispute have to agree they want to
negotiate under these rules. These are not criminal matters.
I makes more sense to get to Muslims to agree to arbitration when they
both agree on the guidelines than if they don't.
Canada does something similar for native people to allow conflict
resolution in traditional ways.
The whole point of America in the constitution which guarantees
religious freedom, but whenever it is exercised it freaks you out.
You guys are fascists at heart who think you have the right to impose
your ways on everyone and to kill anyone who does not agree with you.
You have freedom of religion in the USA and that includes the freedom
to be a Muslim.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
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| User: "Kenneth-" |
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29 Apr 2004 05:29:47 PM |
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Charles Farley wrote:
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
It is still being used in Afghanistan and the United States is imposing
this in Iraq because there are no courts to handle the cases.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
If they want to use sharia as a form of arbitration, that would seem fine.
But it shouldn't replace the court room.
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| User: "cLIeNUX user" |
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30 Apr 2004 02:29:09 AM |
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Charles Farley wrote:
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
It is still being used in Afghanistan and the United States is imposing
this in Iraq because there are no courts to handle the cases.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
If they want to use sharia as a form of arbitration, that would seem fine.
But it shouldn't replace the court room.
A sharia whatever is basically a magistrate in English legal tradition.
That's how my exit plan for Iraq would work. Cities can be Sharia
city-states. The US acts as regional (i.e. state) and federal law
enforcement and defence, and pulls out of those rolls as the cities form
working secular alliances to replace the US forces.
Rick (Richard Allen) Hohensee
The Responsible Party
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| User: "steve" |
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| Title: Same old lies from the same old liars Re: Canada Embraces Intolerance,Allows Islamic Courts |
04 May 2004 06:37:09 PM |
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Kenneth- wrote:
If they want to use sharia as a form of arbitration, that would seem fine.
But it shouldn't replace the court room.
This ***** story has been floating around for a while.
The liars and hate-mongers drag it out to fool the folks who believe
whatever they read without checking it out.
Arbitration in these cases is VOLUNTARY.
The problem was, when the arbitrator rendered his/her decision, it was
not legally binding. The loser - if there was one - could just walk away.
Bottom line: if you CHOOSE to have you dispute with your neightbour - or
whomever - arbitrated by a Muslim arbitrator, this law change means the
arbitrator's decision will be binding on you - legally.
This is NOT shaira law imposed in Ontario.
People who say that are simply lying. It tells you a lot about them.
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| User: "Tempest" |
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28 Apr 2004 09:17:49 PM |
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Charles Fartley wrote:
Note: sharia (islamic law) was imposed in Afghanistan under the
Taliban regime, and is today imposed in Saudi Arabia (not much
different), among other places.
The Washington Post
April 28, 2004; Page A14
Canadians Allow Islamic Courts To Decide Disputes
Sharia Gains Foothold in Ontario
What's the problem?
This is the exact same thing Bush is doing in Afghanistan and Iraq.
He's allowing local warlords to hear cases outside of the legal system.
I bet you didn't know that, loser.
By DeNeen L. Brown
TORONTO -- Suad Almad, her head wrapped in a blue silk scarf, was
discussing her beliefs with a group of friends. She said fervently
that she thought the lives of all Muslims should be governed by
Islamic law, known as sharia.
"It's something nobody can change and we must follow," said Almad, who
came to Canada from Somalia, then engulfed by war, more than 12 years
ago. "We come to Canada and we become lost . . . We need our own court
and we need our own law," she said, her voice strong and certain.
"That's what I believe."
Almad and thousands of other Muslims, taking advantage of a provision
of the law in the province of Ontario, can now decide some civil
disputes under sharia, including family disagreements and inheritance,
business and divorce issues, using tribunals that include imams,
Muslim elders and lawyers. While it is less than full implementation
of sharia, local leaders consider it a significant step.
Muslim promoters of sharia arbitration said that no cases had been
decided but that the process is set. Islamic leaders created an
Islamic Court of Civil Justice last fall and that organization, in
turn, has chosen arbitrators, who have undergone training in sharia
and Canadian civil law, according to organizers and participants.
Sharia is based on the Koran, which includes the teachings of Islam
and revelations by the prophet Muhammad. According to Muslim beliefs,
the Koran provides the divine rules for behavior, including rules
about marriage, business and inheritance. Muslims must abstain from
stealing, lying, killing, adultery and drinking alcohol.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47735-2004Apr27.html
--
"The tyranny of a prince is not so dangerous to the public welfare as
the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
- Baron de Montesquieu, 1748
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