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"Captain Compassion" |
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16 May 2007 10:08:53 AM |
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CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET'
BBC News, 15 May 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/6655449.stm
By Pallab Ghosh
BBC science correspondent
Alarmist messages about global warming are counter-productive, the
head of a leading climate research centre says.
Professor Mike Hulme, of the UK's Tyndall Centre, has been conducting
research on people's attitudes to media portrayals of a catastrophic
future.
He says strong messages designed to prompt people to change behaviour
only seem to generate apathy.
His initial findings will be shown to a meeting run by the British
Association for the Advancement of Science.
"There has been over-claiming or exaggeration, or at the very least
casual use of language by scientists, some of whom are quite
prominent," Professor Hulme told BBC News.
His concern is that these exaggerations have given the green light to
the media to use the language of fear, terror and disaster when
covering scientific reports - even when those reports are much more
constrained in their description of the course of likely future
events.
He says extravagated claims simply generate a feeling of helplessness
in the public.
"My argument is about the dangers of science over-claiming its
knowledge about the future and in particular presenting tentative
predictions about climate change using words of 'disaster',
'apocalypse' and 'catastrophe'," he said.
'Poor presentation'
The study compared the responses of a group of people shown
sensational media coverage with those given the more sober information
from scientific reports.
The initial findings suggest that those shown doom-laden messages
tended to believe the problem could come to a head further into the
future. This group also felt there was little they could do to affect
the planet's future.
"Not only is this not a good way of presenting climate change science,
but even in trying to effect change, it's self-defeating," Professor
Hulme said.
He is speaking at the British Association's two-day Science
Communication Conference in London.
He will pick up themes he raised in a Green Room article on the BBC
News website last November.
These were subsequently echoed by two leading Royal Meteorological
Society figures - Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier - in
March this year.
They said reports of catastrophe and the "Hollywoodisation" of weather
and climate were creating confusion in the public's mind.
All three men hold the view that human activity lies behind the recent
rise in Earth's global average temperature.
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There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Billary/2008" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
16 May 2007 10:19:03 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It must
really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a liberal
idiot too aren't you?
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
17 May 2007 07:12:32 AM |
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"Billary/2008" <F#%K_Liberals@vastrightwingconspiracy.gov> wrote in message
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It
must really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a
liberal idiot too aren't you?
Why do you name yourself after people you despise?
Does that mean you despise yourself too?
That would explain a lot. A lot.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
16 May 2007 10:27:08 AM |
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:19:03 GMT, "Billary/2008"
<F#%K_Liberals@vastrightwingconspiracy.gov> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It must
really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a liberal
idiot too aren't you?
Of course the Captain is a liberal you silly goose. Most rational
freedom loving people are. The Captain may define the word a little
differently than you.
"I use throughout the term 'liberal' in the original,
nineteenth-century sense in which it is still current [1944] in
Britain. In current American usage it often means very nearly the
opposite of this. It has been part of the camouflage of leftist
movements in this country, helped by the muddle-headedness of many
who really believe in liberty, that 'liberal' has come to mean the
advocacy of almost every kind of government control." -- Friedrich
Hayek
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "K0DIAK" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
16 May 2007 11:10:07 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:0d8m431e8cjm0252ca7c7hg2h0qt2rji6c@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:19:03 GMT, "Billary/2008"
<F#%K_Liberals@vastrightwingconspiracy.gov> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It
must
really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a
liberal
idiot too aren't you?
Of course the Captain is a liberal you silly goose. Most rational
freedom loving people are. The Captain may define the word a little
differently than you.
You mean the people whose quotes I mercifully snipped define it for you...
Typical liberal lemming... no original thought... follow the lead puppet...
off the cliff you go.
And the cycle continues...
LOL!
Fuckwit.
- KODIAK
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| User: "Tom Gardner" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
16 May 2007 01:56:41 PM |
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"K0DIAK" <dx@dgd.net> wrote in message
news:wYF2i.372$C96.35@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:0d8m431e8cjm0252ca7c7hg2h0qt2rji6c@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:19:03 GMT, "Billary/2008"
<F#%K_Liberals@vastrightwingconspiracy.gov> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It
must
really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a
liberal
idiot too aren't you?
Of course the Captain is a liberal you silly goose. Most rational
freedom loving people are. The Captain may define the word a little
differently than you.
You mean the people whose quotes I mercifully snipped define it for you...
Typical liberal lemming... no original thought... follow the lead
puppet... off the cliff you go.
And the cycle continues...
LOL!
Fuckwit.
- KODIAK
I'm going to disagree a bit. Captain Compassion has usually posted a unique
mindset that I couldn't classify as a strict "Anything". A bit of left, a
bit of right a bit of common sense. I don't always agree with him but he's
not typical. I respect that.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
16 May 2007 02:42:27 PM |
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:10:07 -0500, "K0DIAK" <dx@dgd.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:0d8m431e8cjm0252ca7c7hg2h0qt2rji6c@4ax.com...
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:19:03 GMT, "Billary/2008"
<F#%K_Liberals@vastrightwingconspiracy.gov> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
That liberals cultivate a climate of fear is par for the course. Fear of
the environment, fear of religion, fear of the right, fear of guns. It
must
really suck to live life so paranoid. Come to think of it, you're a
liberal
idiot too aren't you?
Of course the Captain is a liberal you silly goose. Most rational
freedom loving people are. The Captain may define the word a little
differently than you.
You mean the people whose quotes I mercifully snipped define it for you...
Typical liberal lemming... no original thought... follow the lead puppet...
off the cliff you go.
And the cycle continues...
LOL!
Fuckwit.
Liberalism as defined by John Locke, Thomas Paine, Jefferson, Adams,
Madison and J.S. Mill. Not that defined by Teddy Kennedy, Hillary
Clinton and certainly not by uneducated dolts line yourself.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
17 May 2007 07:11:47 AM |
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Americans don't believe in evolution.
Just give them time, they'll wake up to climate change.
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET'
BBC News, 15 May 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/6655449.stm
By Pallab Ghosh
BBC science correspondent
Alarmist messages about global warming are counter-productive, the
head of a leading climate research centre says.
Professor Mike Hulme, of the UK's Tyndall Centre, has been conducting
research on people's attitudes to media portrayals of a catastrophic
future.
He says strong messages designed to prompt people to change behaviour
only seem to generate apathy.
His initial findings will be shown to a meeting run by the British
Association for the Advancement of Science.
"There has been over-claiming or exaggeration, or at the very least
casual use of language by scientists, some of whom are quite
prominent," Professor Hulme told BBC News.
His concern is that these exaggerations have given the green light to
the media to use the language of fear, terror and disaster when
covering scientific reports - even when those reports are much more
constrained in their description of the course of likely future
events.
He says extravagated claims simply generate a feeling of helplessness
in the public.
"My argument is about the dangers of science over-claiming its
knowledge about the future and in particular presenting tentative
predictions about climate change using words of 'disaster',
'apocalypse' and 'catastrophe'," he said.
'Poor presentation'
The study compared the responses of a group of people shown
sensational media coverage with those given the more sober information
from scientific reports.
The initial findings suggest that those shown doom-laden messages
tended to believe the problem could come to a head further into the
future. This group also felt there was little they could do to affect
the planet's future.
"Not only is this not a good way of presenting climate change science,
but even in trying to effect change, it's self-defeating," Professor
Hulme said.
He is speaking at the British Association's two-day Science
Communication Conference in London.
He will pick up themes he raised in a Green Room article on the BBC
News website last November.
These were subsequently echoed by two leading Royal Meteorological
Society figures - Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier - in
March this year.
They said reports of catastrophe and the "Hollywoodisation" of weather
and climate were creating confusion in the public's mind.
All three men hold the view that human activity lies behind the recent
rise in Earth's global average temperature.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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| User: "Proud American" |
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| Title: Re: CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET' |
17 May 2007 11:15:52 AM |
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"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:464c4679$0$3221$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
Americans don't believe in evolution.
Just give them time, they'll wake up to climate change.
Oh, they believe in climate change as it has happened numerous times in the
past. At one time, the Sahara Desert bloomed, Vikings lived in Greenland
and there were glaciers on much of the planet and no time has it occurred as
the result of mankind. You can eliminate auto emissions, stop cow farts and
go commpletely organic but the fricken climate is still going to change..
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in message
news:9b7m43pit299p2ohhscfuq3v1hbgo2grvv@4ax.com...
CLIMATE MESSAGES ARE 'OFF TARGET'
BBC News, 15 May 2007
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/6655449.stm
By Pallab Ghosh
BBC science correspondent
Alarmist messages about global warming are counter-productive, the
head of a leading climate research centre says.
Professor Mike Hulme, of the UK's Tyndall Centre, has been conducting
research on people's attitudes to media portrayals of a catastrophic
future.
He says strong messages designed to prompt people to change behaviour
only seem to generate apathy.
His initial findings will be shown to a meeting run by the British
Association for the Advancement of Science.
"There has been over-claiming or exaggeration, or at the very least
casual use of language by scientists, some of whom are quite
prominent," Professor Hulme told BBC News.
His concern is that these exaggerations have given the green light to
the media to use the language of fear, terror and disaster when
covering scientific reports - even when those reports are much more
constrained in their description of the course of likely future
events.
He says extravagated claims simply generate a feeling of helplessness
in the public.
"My argument is about the dangers of science over-claiming its
knowledge about the future and in particular presenting tentative
predictions about climate change using words of 'disaster',
'apocalypse' and 'catastrophe'," he said.
'Poor presentation'
The study compared the responses of a group of people shown
sensational media coverage with those given the more sober information
from scientific reports.
The initial findings suggest that those shown doom-laden messages
tended to believe the problem could come to a head further into the
future. This group also felt there was little they could do to affect
the planet's future.
"Not only is this not a good way of presenting climate change science,
but even in trying to effect change, it's self-defeating," Professor
Hulme said.
He is speaking at the British Association's two-day Science
Communication Conference in London.
He will pick up themes he raised in a Green Room article on the BBC
News website last November.
These were subsequently echoed by two leading Royal Meteorological
Society figures - Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier - in
March this year.
They said reports of catastrophe and the "Hollywoodisation" of weather
and climate were creating confusion in the public's mind.
All three men hold the view that human activity lies behind the recent
rise in Earth's global average temperature.
--
There may come a time when the CO2 police will wander the earth telling
the poor and the dispossed how many dung chips they can put on their
cook fires. -- Captain Compassion.
Wherever I go it will be well with me, for it was well with me here, not
on account of the place, but of my judgments which I shall carry away
with me, for no one can deprive me of these; on the contrary, they alone
are my property, and cannot be taken away, and to possess them suffices
me wherever I am or whatever I do. -- EPICTETUS
"Civilization is the interval between Ice Ages." -- Will Durant.
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMcharter.net
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