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10 Sep 2006 08:55:37 AM |
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CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN |
9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898
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| User: "WF Peifer" |
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09 Sep 2006 07:46:58 PM |
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"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
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9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
Even ABC admits it's a "drama" . . . fiction, based (very) loosely on some
historical fact. Do your homework, idiot.
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898
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| User: "Alphonso Mbuto Chaing" |
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| Title: Re: CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN...Bush tries 5 years, fails |
09 Sep 2006 09:25:49 PM |
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'nuff said
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| User: "Truth B. Told" |
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10 Sep 2006 01:05:44 PM |
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WF Peifer wrote:
"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
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9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
Even ABC admits it's a "drama" . . . fiction, based (very) loosely on some
historical fact. Do your homework, idiot.
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51898
Spit
Perhaps you should do your homework yourself, idiot. Here, let me
help. Here is ABC's trailer for its piece of ***** propaganda film,
"Path to 9/11."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHgbeJu1WGk
Note the following words "Official True Story" following the title?
You facist rightards lie so much you can't even get your talking points
straight any more.
T.B. Told
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| User: "Fuzz" |
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09 Sep 2006 11:25:35 AM |
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"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
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9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
If it wasn't for Bush and his quick and decisive actions following Clinton's
9/11, everyone in America would be speaking Muslim and have pictures of Saddam
hanging in their living rooms.
I think that Bush fell back on his warrior training from the days when he flew
Jets during Vietnam. Nothing beats having a bona fide fighting man in the
Whitehouse; he's proven himself to be a hero countless times.
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| User: "Ken Lovering" |
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| Title: Re: CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN |
09 Sep 2006 01:36:37 PM |
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"Fuzz" <fuzz555@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
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9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
If it wasn't for Bush and his quick and decisive actions following
Clinton's
9/11, everyone in America would be speaking Muslim and have pictures of
Saddam
hanging in their living rooms.
I think that Bush fell back on his warrior training from the days when he
flew
Jets during Vietnam. Nothing beats having a bona fide fighting man in the
Whitehouse; he's proven himself to be a hero countless times.
It is moronic quotes like this that you post annonymously.
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| User: "WF Peifer" |
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09 Sep 2006 07:48:29 PM |
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"Fuzz" <fuzz555@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If it wasn't for Bush and his quick and decisive actions following
Clinton's
9/11, everyone in America would be speaking Muslim and have pictures of
Saddam
hanging in their living rooms.
I think that Bush fell back on his warrior training from the days when he
flew
Jets during Vietnam. Nothing beats having a bona fide fighting man in the
Whitehouse; he's proven himself to be a hero countless times.
I hope this entire post was meant to be sarcasm. If it is, you're
brilliant. If not, you're an idiot.
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| User: "PUTTING AMERICA ABOVE POLITICS" |
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10 Sep 2006 10:54:20 AM |
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Straight From The Horse's Mouth...
http://members.aol.com/mspeel7/clintonfailure.swf
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| User: "Draccus" |
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10 Sep 2006 01:38:50 AM |
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WF Peifer wrote:
"Fuzz" <fuzz555@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If it wasn't for Bush and his quick and decisive actions following
Clinton's
9/11, everyone in America would be speaking Muslim and have pictures of
Saddam
hanging in their living rooms.
I think that Bush fell back on his warrior training from the days when he
flew
Jets during Vietnam. Nothing beats having a bona fide fighting man in the
Whitehouse; he's proven himself to be a hero countless times.
I hope this entire post was meant to be sarcasm. If it is, you're
brilliant. If not, you're an idiot.
My Irony meter broke on that one it was horrible.
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| User: "= Vox Populi©" |
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10 Sep 2006 11:53:33 AM |
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"ViperSpit" <liberalmaster@moveon.org> wrote in message
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9/11 Mini Series outlines truths on how Woody failed ..........
Spit
Swallow you *****-pig *****!
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| User: "FREEP THIS!" |
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| Title: CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN (PROOF) |
09 Sep 2006 08:33:23 PM |
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Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk&feature=PlayList&p=752B8F6CD19EBA72&index=2
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| User: "What Me Worry?" |
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09 Sep 2006 09:16:51 PM |
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"FREEP THIS!" <freepthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk&feature=PlayList&p=752B8F6CD19EBA72&index=2
Pathetically obvious smear job. About as factual as the idiotic "Left
Behind" series that frothing Fundies love so much, and about as subtle as a
freight train. Repugs are stupid animals - you have to bat them over the
head with your message to get it to sink in. This docudrama is designed to
appeal to Fox News droolers only.
Not worth anyone's time. I predict 65% of viewers will change the channel
after the first scene. Most Americans liked Clinton. He *still* has higher
ratings than Bush - significantly higher. Americans will see that this is
yet another dodge, yet another deception from the "don't look at me" right
wingers, their hand still in the cookie jar.
Next week, no boost, and repugs will continue their downward slide to their
inevitable November defeat.
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| User: "Angry Young Man!" |
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10 Sep 2006 12:46:39 PM |
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"FREEP THIS!" <freepthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
What's Bush's excuse. He's had six years.
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| User: "SHb" |
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| Title: Re: CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES TO GET BIN LADEN (PROOF) |
10 Sep 2006 02:51:31 PM |
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"""
CLINTON BLEW 6 CHANCES
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No No No you got it wrong.
Monica was Blowing Not Willy!
"Angry Young Man!" <tossEdwards@bush.net> wrote in message
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"FREEP THIS!" <freepthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
What's Bush's excuse. He's had six years.
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| User: "Sid9" |
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10 Sep 2006 02:18:09 PM |
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Angry Young Man! wrote:
"FREEP THIS!" <freepthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157852003.769459.295810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
What's Bush's excuse. He's had six years.
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| User: "Passerby Passerby @midnight.net" |
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09 Sep 2006 09:51:10 PM |
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"FREEP THIS!" <freepthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157852003.769459.295810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
Actually, I believe the number of chances blown (one good turn) is now up to
400 GAZILLION, no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk&feature=PlayList&p=752B8F6CD19EBA72&index=2
And then do what with him?
Strange, don't you think, that given the historical information on binLaden
and terrorism in general, DUHbya did exactly ZERO about the threat for a
full 8 months, several weeks of which included a vacation? And read up on
Clinton's record before saying something stupid like Clinton didn't do
anything for 8 years. It was the republican-controlled congress that fought
his efforts at every turn, in every way possible...including levelling "wag
the dog" accusations...and refusing funding requested for the express
purpose of enacting anti-terrorism measures and programs.
http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/Clinton_and_Terrorism.html
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/clinton.htm
Wouldn't you think DUHbya would make terrorism his #1 priority?
Stranger still, wouldn't you say, that on 9-11, this pretend prez failed to
"protect and defend" the citizens of this country, in accordance with his
oath and his oft-proclaimed statement that it's his most important
responsibility? Why is it, would you say, that the world's superpower was
caught so completely offguard on 9-11? No defense or offense in place?
None of the sophisticated air/ground surveillance mechanisms detected
anything out-of-the-ordinary? Pretend prez sits frozen for 20 minutes,
instead of leaving immediately to attend to at least some details?
Just wondering --
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12 Sep 2006 05:18:22 PM |
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk&feature=PlayList&p=752B8F6CD19EBA72&index=2
Some pesky historical FACTS:
1.Arrested
According to his testimony, Ahmed Ressam began working out the details
of his plan to bomb the Los Angeles airport in the late summer of 1999.
By fall, he was building timing devices for the bomb and gathering
other chemical ingredients.
Ressam says that on the morning of Dec. 14, he called Meskini and told
him he would be in Seattle that evening. That afternoon, he took a
ferry from Victoria, B.C., to Port Angeles, Wash., with more than 100
pounds of explosives stashed in the wheelbed of the trunk of his rental
car. His accomplice, Dahoumane, did not travel with him.
At Victoria, U.S. immigration pre-clearance agents were mildly
suspicious of Ressam. They made him open his trunk, but saw nothing. He
presented his fake Canadian passport, and the computer check turned up
no previous convictions or warrants in the name of Benni Noris. Ressam
drove his rental car, with its concealed bomb, onto the ferry heading
for Washington state. Upon his arrival at Port Angeles, a U.S. customs
agent became suspicious of his hesitant answers to her questions, and
she asked for identification. Agents began searching the car. As they
discovered the explosive materials -- which they at first took to be
drugs -- in the trunk of the car, Ressam tried to run away. He was
caught and arrested.
2.Executed
Friday, November 15, 2002 Posted: 6:57 AM EST (1157 GMT)
JARRATT, Virginia (CNN) -- The U.S. State Department is warning that
the Thursday execution of a Pakistani man for killing two CIA employees
might trigger retaliatory attacks by terrorists.
Mir Aimal Kasi was convicted in the 1993 shootings that happened
outside the CIA's headquarters in Virginia. Kasi, 38, died by lethal
injection at 9:07 p.m. ET at the Greensville Correctional Center.
His final statement was: "There is no God but Allah."
.....
The Pakistani native was convicted of an ambush-style murder spree
outside CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, on January 25, 1993. Two
agency employees died, three others were wounded.
Kasi was convicted in 1997 for the killings of two CIA employees --
Frank Darling, 28, and Lansing Bennett, 66 -- as they sat in their cars
in morning traffic outside CIA headquarters. Three other CIA employees,
all in separate cars, were wounded in the attack.
Around 8 a.m., Kasi walked among the automobiles with an AK-47 firing
randomly. The cars were stopped at a red light, waiting to turn into
the CIA entrance.
.......
Kasi worked for a local courier service at the time of the shooting and
was familiar with the area around the CIA headquarters. He fled the
scene and remained on the run for more than four years, until FBI
agents in a hotel in Pakistan captured him in June 1997. According to
prosecutors, he spent most of his time hiding in Afghanistan, with only
occasional stops in Pakistan."
3.Botton O' Altantic
Egypt Air Flight 990 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on October 31st,
1999, just under an hour after taking off from New York City's 'JFK
Airport', bound for Cairo, Egypt. All 202 passengers and 15 crew died,
with wreckage and debris spread out over 36 square miles (94 sq. km) of
stormy ocean surface about 60 miles (96 km) south of Nantucket Island.
Just what caused this horrific crash is still not known.
Steve Russell, writing for YOWUSA.com (January 5th, 2000) speculates
that there are only two theories having been bandied about that have
not yet been disproved: Suicide on the part of the co-pilot, and an
explosion. The suicide theory comes from the co-pilot Gameel
el-Batouty's having uttered the phrase "Tawakilt ala Allah," or "I put
my faith in the hands of God," which was recorded by the cockpit
recorder just before the auto-pilot was turned off. This was reported
by the press to mean that Babouty had committed suicide, especially
after one set of translators reported that Babouty had also said, "I
have made my decision now," which other translators were quick to deny
there was any sign of on the recorder. Was this phrase invented to give
the crash a criminal aspect, which in turn would allow the FBI to take
over the investigation, and cut off public disclosure of information,
as is speculated by Russell, and other conspiriologists?
The plane, according to early reports, began a steep dive from 33 000
feet, then pulled up sharply at 16 000 feet, climbing back up to 24 000
feet. At that point in began its final dive for the ocean, but
according to a CNN report (November 4th, 1999), 'National
Transportation Safety Board' radar operator John Clark said it appears
that the jet was loosing pieces before it hit the water. Various
officials in Egypt Air were quoted in December 1999, speculating that
something had hit the tail of the plane, possibly breaking off the tail
section.
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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13 Sep 2006 11:11:22 AM |
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Him Over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvo2lQe81xk&feature=PlayList&p=752B8F6CD19EBA72&index=2
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from its
president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States,
offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place
him in custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and former
officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer
in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in Arlington,
Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort
10 weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a
case to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally
gave up on the capture…
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| User: "DKat" |
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13 Sep 2006 11:53:31 AM |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens and
when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Nice posting Lamont.
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from its
president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States, offered
in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in
custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and former officials in
all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in
secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in Arlington,
Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10
weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a case
to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally gave up
on the capture…
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| User: "Billy" |
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13 Sep 2006 12:06:52 PM |
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"DKat" <dkatspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens and
when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with Bin
Laden's civil rights?
Nice posting Lamont.
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from its
president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States,
offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place
him in custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and former
officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer in
secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in Arlington,
Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort
10 weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a case
to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally gave up
on the capture.
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13 Sep 2006 03:19:26 PM |
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin
Laden's civil rights?
I would hope so, and at least one, if not all, of the Founding Fathers would
agree.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security
will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
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13 Sep 2006 01:09:44 PM |
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"DKat" <dkatspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens
and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin Laden's civil rights?
Are ya brain dead Billy? At the time he had nothing we could put him in
jail for. Clinton tried to get Saudi Arabia to take him and at least not
allow him to leave his own country. They wouldn't.
Let me see if I can put things in perspective for you. When the Democrats
get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency (yes that will happen one
of these days), do you want them to be able to listen in to whomever they
want to without even asking for a warrent (if they can do this there is no
means of tracking who they are ease dropping on)? Do you want them to be
able to throw anyone into their secret jails and not allow them to see the
evidence against them? Think of Ted Kennedy as President and throwing Rush
in a secret jail. Rush would simply disappear. Not a bloody thing could be
done about it under the current way we are doing things. Kennedy could
listen in to the Bush family to see what their election winning strategy
was. Not a thing you could do about it.
Try to use your mind for something other than parroting what Rush says.
DKat
Nice posting Lamont.
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from its
president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States,
offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place
him in custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and former
officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer
in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in Arlington,
Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort
10 weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a
case to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally
gave up on the capture.
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13 Sep 2006 03:03:55 PM |
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"DKat" <dkatspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"DKat" <dkatspam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens
and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin Laden's civil rights?
Are ya brain dead Billy? At the time he had nothing we could put him in
jail for. Clinton tried to get Saudi Arabia to take him and at least not
allow him to leave his own country. They wouldn't.
Let me see if I can put things in perspective for you. When the Democrats
get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency (yes that will happen one
of these days), do you want them to be able to listen in to whomever they
want to without even asking for a warrent (if they can do this there is no
means of tracking who they are ease dropping on)? Do you want them to be
able to throw anyone into their secret jails and not allow them to see the
evidence against them? Think of Ted Kennedy as President and throwing
Rush in a secret jail. Rush would simply disappear. Not a bloody thing
could be done about it under the current way we are doing things. Kennedy
could listen in to the Bush family to see what their election winning
strategy was. Not a thing you could do about it.
Try to use your mind for something other than parroting what Rush says.
It was a yes or no question.
DKat
Nice posting Lamont.
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from
its president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States,
offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and place
him in custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and former
officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer
in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in Arlington,
Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort
10 weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a
case to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally
gave up on the capture.
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""""Think of Ted Kennedy as President and throwing
Rush in a secret jail. """
Kennedy does not do secret jails;
He does bridges!
"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens
and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin Laden's civil rights?
Are ya brain dead Billy? At the time he had nothing we could put him in
jail for. Clinton tried to get Saudi Arabia to take him and at least not
allow him to leave his own country. They wouldn't.
Let me see if I can put things in perspective for you. When the
Democrats get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency (yes that will
happen one of these days), do you want them to be able to listen in to
whomever they want to without even asking for a warrent (if they can do
this there is no means of tracking who they are ease dropping on)? Do
you want them to be able to throw anyone into their secret jails and not
allow them to see the evidence against them? Think of Ted Kennedy as
President and throwing Rush in a secret jail. Rush would simply
disappear. Not a bloody thing could be done about it under the current
way we are doing things. Kennedy could listen in to the Bush family to
see what their election winning strategy was. Not a thing you could do
about it.
Try to use your mind for something other than parroting what Rush says.
It was a yes or no question.
DKat
Nice posting Lamont.
www.makethemaccountable.com/myth/ClintonAndTerrorism.htm
Washington Post Service
In '96, Sudan Offered to Arrest bin Laden
Barton Gellman
Thursday, October 4, 2001
Saudis Balked at Accepting U.S. Plan
WASHINGTON The government of Sudan, using a back channel direct from
its president to the Central Intelligence Agency in the United States,
offered in the early spring of 1996 to arrest Osama bin Laden and
place him in custody in Saudi Arabia, according to officials and
former officials in all three countries.
The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to accept the offer
in secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at hotel in
Arlington, Virginia, on March 3, 1996, to a fax that closed the door
on the effort 10 weeks later.
Unable to persuade the Saudis to accept Mr. bin Laden, and lacking a
case to indict him in U.S. courts, the Clinton administration finally
gave up on the capture.
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| User: "Lloyd King" |
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13 Sep 2006 12:44:48 PM |
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Actually, the Path to 9/11 didn't mention this non-event. Even the slanted
propaganda piece couldn't bring itself to stoop that low. The fact is, the
person who "offered" to turn over bin Ladin was a well-known fraud and
someone who had no authority nor connections to even be involved in such a
thing, and the CIA didn't believe him for a second. Clinton heard about the
offer, but at that time bin Laden hadn't done anything against the US for
which he could be tried, so even if the offer had been legit, there was no
way to accept it. But, of course, the Sudan was at that time ruled by a guy
named al Turabi, who was a Muslim fanatic like Mullah Omar and bin Laden
himself. There is simply no way that he would ever agree to turn bin Laden
over to infidels. Wasn't ever a possibility.
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens
and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin Laden's civil rights?
There are no do-overs in the real world.
With hindsight, maybe we'd all have killed bin Laden. But that's cheating.
In hindsight, it would have been nice if someone had killed Timothy McVeigh
in 1994. But if someone HAD done that, he would be in prison as a simple
murderer. The US government trained Timothy McVeigh, they taught him how to
make explosives, and they had him in their grasp. They could have prevented
the Oklahoma City bombing by throwing him in prison back then and never
letting him out. Or by simply killing him. But, of course, they didn't
know what was going to happen on April 19, 1995. And nobody in 1996 knew
what Osama bin Laden and his thugs were going to do 5 years later.
To say today that Clinton did something wrong by not somehow incapacitating
bin Laden back then (if he had the chance, which he didn't) is just plain
wrong.
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| User: "Billy" |
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13 Sep 2006 03:03:12 PM |
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"Lloyd King" <lloydking@kinglloydcom.com> wrote in message
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in message
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FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Actually, the Path to 9/11 didn't mention this non-event. Even the
slanted propaganda piece couldn't bring itself to stoop that low. The
fact is, the person who "offered" to turn over bin Ladin was a well-known
fraud and someone who had no authority nor connections to even be involved
in such a thing, and the CIA didn't believe him for a second. Clinton
heard about the offer, but at that time bin Laden hadn't done anything
against the US for which he could be tried, so even if the offer had been
legit, there was no way to accept it. But, of course, the Sudan was at
that time ruled by a guy named al Turabi, who was a Muslim fanatic like
Mullah Omar and bin Laden himself. There is simply no way that he would
ever agree to turn bin Laden over to infidels. Wasn't ever a possibility.
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its citizens
and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned with
Bin Laden's civil rights?
There are no do-overs in the real world.
With hindsight, maybe we'd all have killed bin Laden. But that's
cheating. In hindsight, it would have been nice if someone had killed
Timothy McVeigh in 1994. But if someone HAD done that, he would be in
prison as a simple murderer. The US government trained Timothy McVeigh,
they taught him how to make explosives, and they had him in their grasp.
They could have prevented the Oklahoma City bombing by throwing him in
prison back then and never letting him out. Or by simply killing him.
But, of course, they didn't know what was going to happen on April 19,
1995. And nobody in 1996 knew what Osama bin Laden and his thugs were
going to do 5 years later.
To say today that Clinton did something wrong by not somehow
incapacitating bin Laden back then (if he had the chance, which he didn't)
is just plain wrong.
It was a yes or no question.
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13 Sep 2006 03:31:24 PM |
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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It was a yes or no question.
For anybody willing to put as much stock in the "rule of law" as the
Republicans CLAIMED to back in the late '90s, the answer would be a
resounding "YES". And yes, Clinton would have also answered "yes" as well,
because there is no rational reason, under the law, to abridge the rights of
an individual when no evidence has been provided that he'd done anything
wrong. We don't arrest, jail or execute people for what we think they might
do at some point in the future. We'll leave that to totalitarian fascist
states and movies like Tom Cruise's "Minority Report". We're a nation of
laws, and the legal tradition, up until now, is a presumption of innocence
until proven guilty. Hell, it's even against the law to wiretap without a
warrant. Or at least it USED to be . . . back when we were still a nation
of laws.
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| User: "Billy" |
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13 Sep 2006 05:02:56 PM |
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"WF Peifer" <WFPeifer@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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It was a yes or no question.
For anybody willing to put as much stock in the "rule of law" as the
Republicans CLAIMED to back in the late '90s, the answer would be a
resounding "YES". And yes, Clinton would have also answered "yes" as
well,
because there is no rational reason, under the law, to abridge the rights
of
an individual when no evidence has been provided that he'd done anything
wrong. We don't arrest, jail or execute people for what we think they
might
do at some point in the future. We'll leave that to totalitarian fascist
states and movies like Tom Cruise's "Minority Report". We're a nation of
laws, and the legal tradition, up until now, is a presumption of innocence
until proven guilty. Hell, it's even against the law to wiretap without a
warrant. Or at least it USED to be . . . back when we were still a nation
of laws.
You did not lose a mother/father or son/daughter on 9/11 did you? Bin laden
came on national TV and declared war on the United States, he told us what
he was going to do. What did Clinton do about it? Not a DAMN THING.
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13 Sep 2006 03:41:04 PM |
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WF Peifer wrote:
"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6uZNg.5085$y61.1987@fed1read05...
It was a yes or no question.
For anybody willing to put as much stock in the "rule of law" as the
Republicans CLAIMED to back in the late '90s, the answer would be a
resounding "YES". And yes, Clinton would have also answered "yes" as
well, because there is no rational reason, under the law, to abridge
the rights of an individual when no evidence has been provided that
he'd done anything wrong. We don't arrest, jail or execute people
for what we think they might do at some point in the future. We'll
leave that to totalitarian fascist states and movies like Tom
Cruise's "Minority Report". We're a nation of laws, and the legal
tradition, up until now, is a presumption of innocence until proven
guilty. Hell, it's even against the law to wiretap without a
warrant.
It still is. What is new is that we have a President who has set himself
above the law.
--
John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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13 Sep 2006 03:08:22 PM |
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Billy wrote:
"Lloyd King" <lloydking@kinglloydcom.com> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in
message news:45082daa_3@x-privat.org...
FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Actually, the Path to 9/11 didn't mention this non-event. Even the
slanted propaganda piece couldn't bring itself to stoop that low.
The fact is, the person who "offered" to turn over bin Ladin was a
well-known fraud and someone who had no authority nor connections to
even be involved in such a thing, and the CIA didn't believe him for
a second. Clinton heard about the offer, but at that time bin Laden
hadn't done anything against the US for which he could be tried, so
even if the offer had been legit, there was no way to accept it.
But, of course, the Sudan was at that time ruled by a guy named al
Turabi, who was a Muslim fanatic like Mullah Omar and bin Laden
himself. There is simply no way that he would ever agree to turn
bin Laden over to infidels. Wasn't ever a possibility.
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To
Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its
citizens and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned
with Bin Laden's civil rights?
There are no do-overs in the real world.
With hindsight, maybe we'd all have killed bin Laden. But that's
cheating. In hindsight, it would have been nice if someone had killed
Timothy McVeigh in 1994. But if someone HAD done that, he would be
in prison as a simple murderer. The US government trained Timothy
McVeigh, they taught him how to make explosives, and they had him in
their grasp. They could have prevented the Oklahoma City bombing by
throwing him in prison back then and never letting him out. Or by
simply killing him. But, of course, they didn't know what was going
to happen on April 19, 1995. And nobody in 1996 knew what Osama bin
Laden and his thugs were going to do 5 years later.
To say today that Clinton did something wrong by not somehow
incapacitating bin Laden back then (if he had the chance, which he
didn't) is just plain wrong.
It was a yes or no question.
It wasn't a question at all. Bin Ladens rights aren't something that anyone
cares about.
--
John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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| User: "Billy" |
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13 Sep 2006 05:03:11 PM |
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"John R. Carroll" <jcarroll@machiningsolution.com> wrote in message
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Billy wrote:
"Lloyd King" <lloydking@kinglloydcom.com> wrote in message
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"Billy" <nevermind@cox.net> wrote in message
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@TheShadowKnows.com> wrote in
message news:45082daa_3@x-privat.org...
FREEP THIS! wrote:
Clinton Confirms PATH TO 911 in his own words a few years ago
Actually, the Path to 9/11 didn't mention this non-event. Even the
slanted propaganda piece couldn't bring itself to stoop that low.
The fact is, the person who "offered" to turn over bin Ladin was a
well-known fraud and someone who had no authority nor connections to
even be involved in such a thing, and the CIA didn't believe him for
a second. Clinton heard about the offer, but at that time bin Laden
hadn't done anything against the US for which he could be tried, so
even if the offer had been legit, there was no way to accept it.
But, of course, the Sudan was at that time ruled by a guy named al
Turabi, who was a Muslim fanatic like Mullah Omar and bin Laden
himself. There is simply no way that he would ever agree to turn
bin Laden over to infidels. Wasn't ever a possibility.
Clinton Admits Refusing To Take Bin Laden When Sudan Offered To
Hand
Freep knows jack -
You mean back when our government was held accountable to its
citizens and when our government FOLLOWED THE RULE OF LAW!
Do you think if he had it to do over again he would be so concerned
with Bin Laden's civil rights?
There are no do-overs in the real world.
With hindsight, maybe we'd all have killed bin Laden. But that's
cheating. In hindsight, it would have been nice if someone had killed
Timothy McVeigh in 1994. But if someone HAD done that, he would be
in prison as a simple murderer. The US government trained Timothy
McVeigh, they taught him how to make explosives, and they had him in
their grasp. They could have prevented the Oklahoma City bombing by
throwing him in prison back then and never letting him out. Or by
simply killing him. But, of course, they didn't know what was going
to happen on April 19, 1995. And nobody in 1996 knew what Osama bin
Laden and his thugs were going to do 5 years later.
To say today that Clinton did something wrong by not somehow
incapacitating bin Laden back then (if he had the chance, which he
didn't) is just plain wrong.
It was a yes or no question.
It wasn't a question at all. Bin Ladens rights aren't something that
anyone
cares about.
If you are not man enough to answer it, just say so.
--
John R. Carroll
Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
www.machiningsolution.com
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