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17 Jul 2006 01:28:43 PM |
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Clinton says he would have died for Israel |
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was more
even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked many
when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq
or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a rifle,
get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and
die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish
charity Monday.
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17 Jul 2006 01:51:23 PM |
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a
rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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17 Jul 2006 03:11:59 PM |
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Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a
rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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| User: "GreyPouponKerry" |
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17 Jul 2006 03:16:41 PM |
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But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
news:8FQug.3481$iP1.3267@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab
a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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17 Jul 2006 07:34:51 PM |
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
***** you, you ***** propaganda slinging, lying *****.
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| User: "Jor-elŠ" |
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17 Jul 2006 08:13:34 PM |
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
When were you in Vietnam, Emu?
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17 Jul 2006 05:36:55 PM |
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
You call avoiding the draft by having daddy get him into the guard, and then
blowing it off and eventually getting grounded having "balls", I call it
something else.
But in any case you are missing the point, Clinton was just illustrating how
strongly he believes in Israel's right to defend itself.
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| User: "Bob" |
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17 Jul 2006 06:02:26 PM |
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"MikeC" <sendmail@tosomebodywhocares.com> wrote in message
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
news:meSug.6170$IB.1788@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
You call avoiding the draft by having daddy get him into the guard, and
then blowing it off and eventually getting grounded having "balls", I call
it something else.
But in any case you are missing the point, Clinton was just illustrating
how strongly he believes in Israel's right to defend itself.
Makes you wonder what the meaning of "die" is ...
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17 Jul 2006 06:06:57 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"MikeC" <sendmail@tosomebodywhocares.com> wrote in message
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"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
You call avoiding the draft by having daddy get him into the guard, and
then blowing it off and eventually getting grounded having "balls", I
call it something else.
But in any case you are missing the point, Clinton was just illustrating
how strongly he believes in Israel's right to defend itself.
Makes you wonder what the meaning of "die" is ...
Your brain cells provide the perfect example for us, <cough> Bob.
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"Actually, what I have is more properly termed "Closet Gaydar" and you set
it off ---- Me to Dave Moffitt 11/17/2005
%%%% I grew up caring for livestock -- David Moffitt
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18 Jul 2006 05:40:46 PM |
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no@email.address (Bob) wrote:
"MikeC"
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=A0=A0But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't
even have the balls to join the guard like Pres.
Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would >fight
for Israel.
You call avoiding the draft by having daddy >get
him into the guard, and then blowing it off and
eventually getting grounded having "balls", I >call
it something else.
But in any case you are missing the point,
Clinton was just illustrating how strongly he
believes in Israel's right to defend itself.
Makes you wonder what the meaning of "die" >is
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For the schlickmeister and dubya it means
for "someone else" to do it.
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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17 Jul 2006 03:28:58 PM |
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GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bush didn't join the guard because he had balls, he joined because he
was going to be drafted and Daddy could get him into a champagne unit
that he subsequently deserted.
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:jaSug.570$7i.528@chiapp18.algx.net...
Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
news:8FQug.3481$iP1.3267@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab
a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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18 Jul 2006 10:28:23 AM |
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
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Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Lamont Cranston" |
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18 Jul 2006 11:16:18 AM |
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wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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| User: "Bob" |
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18 Jul 2006 01:04:29 PM |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman Daddy to
get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
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18 Jul 2006 01:27:37 PM |
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Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join
the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman Daddy to
get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
Clinton was in a National Guard champagne unit?
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18 Jul 2006 02:01:49 PM |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:mP7vg.581$7i.107@chiapp18.algx.net...
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to
join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
Clinton was in a National Guard champagne unit?
Clinton's help kept him out altogether. He obviously
had more powerful people intervene.
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18 Jul 2006 02:47:46 PM |
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Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:tK9vg.585$7i.57@chiapp18.algx.net...
Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:mP7vg.581$7i.107@chiapp18.algx.net...
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to
join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for
Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
Clinton was in a National Guard champagne unit?
Clinton's help kept him out altogether. He obviously
had more powerful people intervene.
Yes, he cultivated relationships with powerful people -- fended for
himself. He didn't have a powerful Daddy to take care of him.
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18 Jul 2006 03:19:02 PM |
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:tK9vg.585$7i.57@chiapp18.algx.net...
Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:mP7vg.581$7i.107@chiapp18.algx.net...
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls
to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight
for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman
Daddy to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
Clinton was in a National Guard champagne unit?
Clinton's help kept him out altogether. He obviously
had more powerful people intervene.
Yes, he cultivated relationships with powerful people -- fended for
himself. He didn't have a powerful Daddy to take care of him.
Clinton would do anything for a *****
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18 Jul 2006 03:25:59 PM |
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"TheRedStatePatriot" <redst5@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Clinton would do anything for a *****
Like snap his fingers.
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19 Jul 2006 08:49:54 AM |
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TheRedStatePatriot wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:tK9vg.585$7i.57@chiapp18.algx.net...
Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:mP7vg.581$7i.107@chiapp18.algx.net...
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls
to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight
for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself. He didn't have a congressman
Daddy to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Clinton had a U.S. Senator intervene on his
behalf ... a bit more powerful than a
congressman.
Clinton was in a National Guard champagne unit?
Clinton's help kept him out altogether. He obviously
had more powerful people intervene.
Yes, he cultivated relationships with powerful people -- fended for
himself. He didn't have a powerful Daddy to take care of him.
Clinton would do anything for a *****
Clinton didn't need to do anything for a *****. Women threw
themselves at him and still do.
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18 Jul 2006 01:42:58 PM |
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself.
Seems it took the assistance of quite a few people for
Bill to "fend for himself".
He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Which is safer, flying 1950's-tech fighter jets or studying
at Oxford?
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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18 Jul 2006 02:05:35 PM |
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wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself.
Seems it took the assistance of quite a few people for
Bill to "fend for himself".
None was his Daddy. These were relationships that Clinton cultivated.
Hence, he fended for himself.
He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Which is safer, flying 1950's-tech fighter jets or studying
at Oxford?
Which requires more brains?
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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18 Jul 2006 04:15:54 PM |
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Lamont Cranston wrote:
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
firelock_ny@hotmail.com wrote:
Lamont Cranston wrote:
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
But he ran from Vietnam Service. He didn't even have the balls to join the
guard like Pres. Bush had. But this scumbag Clinton would fight for Israel.
He didn't run from anything.
Bill Clinton's experience with the draft makes interesting
reading. I especially like the part where he enters the U of
Arkansas ROTC program, while attending classes at Oxford.
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Yeah, Bill had to fend for himself.
Seems it took the assistance of quite a few people for
Bill to "fend for himself".
None was his Daddy. These were relationships that Clinton cultivated.
Hence, he fended for himself.
No one argues with Bill Clinton's ability to use people.
He didn't have a congressman Daddy
to get him into a National Guard champagne unit.
Which is safer, flying 1950's-tech fighter jets or studying
at Oxford?
Which requires more brains?
Bush seemed to do OK in the brains department. Yale and
Harvard, remember?
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
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17 Jul 2006 03:43:28 PM |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
Col. Homes Notarized Statement
As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5551) 7/30/93
September 7, 1992. Memorandum for Record:
Subject: Bill Clinton and the University of Arkansas ROTC Program:
There have been many unanswered questions as to the circumstances
surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with the ROTC department at the
University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for
discussing the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor
physical health (a consequence of participation in the Bataan Death March
and the subsequent three and a half years interment in Japanese POW camps)
has precluded me from getting into what I felt was unnecessary involvement.
However, present polls show that there is the imminent danger to our country
of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the
United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were
many others who avoided serving their country in the Vietnam war, they are
not aspiring to be the President of the United States.
The tremendous implications of the possibility of his becoming
Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces compels me now to
comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This
account would not have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely
honest with the American public concerning this matter. But as Mr. Clinton
replied on a news conference this evening (September 5, 1992) after being
asked another particular about his dodging the draft,
"Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more
comments to make". Since I may be the only person living who can give a
first hand account of what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love
for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually happened and
make it a matter of record.
Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to discuss his desire to
enroll in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. We engaged in an
extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during this long
conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his
involvement, participation and actually organizing protests against the
United States involvement in South East Asia. He was shrewd enough to
realize that had I been aware of his activities, he would not
have been accepted into the ROTC program as a potential officer in the
United States Army.
The next day I began to receive phone calls regarding Bill Clinton's draft
status. I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator
Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted
to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message
conveyed by the draft board to me was that Senator Fullbright's office was
putting pressure on them and that they needed my help. I then made the
necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton into the ROTC
program at the University of Arkansas.
I was not "saving" him from serving his country, as he erroneously thanked
me for in his letter from England (dated December 3,1969). I was making it
possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an officer. In
retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with
his agreement to join the Army ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or
to attend the University of Arkansas Law School. I had explained to him the
necessity of enrolling at the University of Arkansas as a student in order
to be eligible to take the ROTC program at the University. He never enrolled
at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled at Yale after attending
Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of
joining the
ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a
new draft classification.
The December 3rd letter written to me by Mr. Clinton, and subsequently taken
from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive officer, was placed
into the ROTC files so that a record would be available in case the
applicant should again petition to enter the ROTC program. The information
in that letter alone would have restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying
to be an officer in the United States Military. Even more significant was
his lack of veracity in purposefully defrauding the military by deceiving
me, both in concealing his anti-military activities overseas and his
counterfeit intentions for later military service. These actions cause me to
question both his patriotism and his integrity. When I consider the caliber,
the bravery, and the patriotism of the fine young soldiers whose deaths I
have witnessed, and others whose funerals I have attended.... When I reflect
on not only the willingness but eagerness that so many of them displayed in
their earnest desire to defend and serve their country, it is untenable and
incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely unwilling to serve his
country, but actually protested against its military, should ever be in the
position of Commander-in-Chief of our armed Forces.
I write this declaration not only for the living and future generations, but
for those who fought and died for our country. If space and time permitted I
would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along with
them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and
is buried in Cambridge, England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill
Clinton was when he was over in England protesting the war). I have agonized
over whether or not to submit this statement to the American people. But, I
realize that even though I served my country by being in the military for
over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat under
the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese,it
is not enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love
my country more than I do my own personal security and well-being. I will go
to my grave loving these United States of America and the liberty for which
so many men have
fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final
statement. I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding
this issue.
Eugene Holmes
Colonel, U.S.A., Ret.
September 1992
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab
a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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18 Jul 2006 09:56:12 AM |
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Bob wrote:
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
news:jaSug.570$7i.528@chiapp18.algx.net...
Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
news:8FQug.3481$iP1.3267@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
Col. Homes Notarized Statement
As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5551) 7/30/93
September 7, 1992. Memorandum for Record:
Thanks for confirming my statement.
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Bob wrote:
I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding
this issue.
Specifically, he stops short of any allegation of a crime, and stops far
short of making any persuasive case against former president Clinton.
Wisely, he shuts up, and I assume, dies at a ripe old age.
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17 Jul 2006 06:12:05 PM |
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.
Specifically, he stops short of any allegation of a crime, and stops far
short of making any persuasive case against former president Clinton.
Wisely, he shuts up, and I assume, dies at a ripe old age.
But whether or not a crime had been committed wasn't the assertion Bob was
responding to, was it? Lamont said "There is absolutely no evidence that he
[Clinton] is a coward." Then Bob posted with the piece you snipped in your
own response.
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17 Jul 2006 06:32:27 PM |
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"Harvey" <researchermd@netscape.net> wrote in message
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"jmcgill" <jmcgill@email.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:U%Sug.18130$_c1.8291@fed1read05...
Bob wrote:
I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this
issue.
Specifically, he stops short of any allegation of a crime, and stops
far short of making any persuasive case against former president
Clinton.
Wisely, he shuts up, and I assume, dies at a ripe old age.
But whether or not a crime had been committed wasn't the assertion Bob
was responding to, was it? Lamont said "There is absolutely no
evidence that he [Clinton] is a coward." Then Bob posted with the
piece you snipped in your own response.
By this definition Hastert, Armey, Delay, Lott, Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft,
Rove, and Gingrich all avoided the draft through various methods and all
are cowards.
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17 Jul 2006 07:07:47 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:27 GMT, "Nebuchadnezzar II"
<Nebuchadnezzar@microsoft.com> wrote:
all are cowards.
***** you drop damned dead.
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17 Jul 2006 08:16:08 PM |
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"ef_hutterite" <efhutterite@montanan.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:27 GMT, "Nebuchadnezzar II"
<Nebuchadnezzar@microsoft.com> wrote:
all are cowards.
***** you drop damned dead.
You first.
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17 Jul 2006 04:57:25 PM |
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"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont@FogYourMind.org> wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
"GreyPouponKerry" <gpk@aol.com> wrote in message
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Clinton says he would have died for Israel
Clinton is a well known coward, but he is a
slick talker.
There is absolutely no evidence that he is a coward.
He certainly displayed bravery in the face of the failed coup attempt.
--
"Actually, what I have is more properly termed "Closet Gaydar" and you set
it off ---- Me to Dave Moffitt 11/17/2005
%%%% I grew up caring for livestock -- David Moffitt
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was
more even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked
many when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked
by Iraq or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab
a rifle, get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto
Jewish charity Monday.
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18 Jul 2006 05:30:19 PM |
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Mon, Jul 17, 2006, 2:28pm (CDT+1) From:
gpk@aol.com (GreyPouponKerry)
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
=A0=A0By Khalid Hasan
(snip)
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the >Iranian
army came across the Jordan River, I would
personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight
and die," Clinton told the crowd at a
fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish charity
Monday.
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More of his lies, he'd run like a "wild turkey",
just like dubya would..both are draft-dodgers
who actively avoided the opportunity to
fight for their own country-must less Israel.
--WebTV-Mail-5786-22264
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18 Jul 2006 10:04:56 AM |
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Bill "Just Pull Down My Zipper" Clinton should be working behind the
scenes with the elder Bush and Dumbya to encourage Israel to do Uncle
Sam's dirty work: Bomb Syria and Iran, something these three stooges
could never muster the guts to do!
ISRAEL itself needs to bomb Iran and Syria, NOW, or else forever be
relegated to the status quo--which means recurring, cyclic, internecine
attacks by two religious groups that will never reach peaceful accords.
Face facts:
1) Muslims will NEVER accept a Jewish state in their midst. Since
1948, violence has been the norm between Middle Eastern Jews and
Muslims.
2) Fanatical Muslims will always seek ways to destroy Israel.
3) Jews will never be inclined to embrace Muslims, if only because of
centuries of persecution and hatred.
4) Peace will never exist between two major religions--anywhere.
5) Too much collective memory on both sides to forget or forgive
millenia of hate and bloodshed.
Attacking Lebanon, again, is not the aswer for Israel. Previous
operations of this sort have proved elusive. Even victory, if achieved,
will last but a few years. Then the bombings and terrorism will start
again.
Syria and Iran are Israel's main enemies and sources of its woes. If
Syria and Iran are allowed to continue promoting bloodshed and
violence--with IMPUNITY--peace cannot be attained.
IF Israel will NOT destroy Iranian and Syrian military depots, air
fields, urban government facilities, and munitions manufacturing
centers, NOW, the population should pack up and depart their ill-gained
"homeland." That "dream" has never achieved a peaceful coexistence
with its "neighbors, and never will.
The United States would doubtless grant or broker a new land for the
Jewish people, far from the Middle East.
GreyPouponKerry wrote:
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was more
even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked many
when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq
or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a rifle,
get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and
die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish
charity Monday.
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17 Jul 2006 01:50:50 PM |
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GreyPouponKerry wrote:
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
By Khalid Hasan
WASHINGTON: Former US President Bill Clinton who many Arab thoughts was more
even-handed on the Palestine question than his predecessors shocked many
when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq
or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a rifle,
get in a ditch and fight and die."
"The Israelis know that if the Iraqi or the Iranian army came across the
Jordan River, I would personally grab a rifle, get in a ditch, and fight and
die," Clinton told the crowd at a fund-raising event for a Toronto Jewish
charity Monday.
He's too old, I don't think the Army would take him. Though it would do
wonders for Recriuting :)
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17 Jul 2006 02:00:11 PM |
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GreyPouponKerry wrote:
Clinton says he would have died for Israel
By Khalid Hasan
Interesting how there's only one source for this story, and it's from
an Arab reporter in an Arab newspaper.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Clinton+says+he+would+have+died+for+Israel%22
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17 Jul 2006 02:00:28 PM |
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GreyPouponKerry wrote:
when he asserted in Toronto last week that had Israel been attacked by Iraq
or Iran during his presidency, he would have been ready to "grab a rifle,
get in a ditch and fight and die."
If that happend, I would grab a rifle too, .....and join up with
Iraq...... just for the chance to blow his stupid head off......
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