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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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11 Oct 2007 10:53:49 PM |
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CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web and I
tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our CNBC
Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a poll on our Web
site asking who readers thought won the debate. You guys flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the reader and
take a quick temperature reading of your audience. Nothing more and nothing
less. The cyber equivalent of asking the room for a show of hands on a
certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus votes
after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by the way,
was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I haven't seen him pull
those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll. Our poll was either hacked or
the target of a campaign. So we took the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support messages.
And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with traffic from Ron
Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that night had been hit in
similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are obviously well-organized
and feel strongly about your candidate and I can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an honest
"show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating the Ron Paul
drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and certainly doesn't serve our
readers ... at least those who aren't already in the Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the results
of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I get a little
worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
11 Oct 2007 11:04:57 PM |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Xns99C6DEBEB98B6riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web
and I tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our
CNBC Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a poll
on our Web site asking who readers thought won the debate. You guys
flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the reader
and take a quick temperature reading of your audience. Nothing more
and nothing less. The cyber equivalent of asking the room for a show
of hands on a certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus
votes after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by the
way, was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I haven't seen
him pull those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll. Our poll was
either hacked or the target of a campaign. So we took the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support
messages. And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with
traffic from Ron Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that
night had been hit in similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are
obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I
can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an
honest "show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating the
Ron Paul drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and certainly
doesn't serve our readers ... at least those who aren't already in the
Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the
results of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I
get a little worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
What a douchebag.
I'd love to see those logs and do an analysis. I bet they're full of
***** on the bots .. or they're freaking idiots and didn't set the poll up
right.
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
11 Oct 2007 11:27:16 PM |
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On Oct 11, 9:04 pm, z <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:Xns99C6DEBEB98B6riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web
and I tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our
CNBC Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a poll
on our Web site asking who readers thought won the debate. You guys
flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the reader
and take a quick temperature reading of your audience. Nothing more
and nothing less. The cyber equivalent of asking the room for a show
of hands on a certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus
votes after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by the
way, was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I haven't seen
him pull those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll. Our poll was
either hacked or the target of a campaign. So we took the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support
messages. And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with
traffic from Ron Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that
night had been hit in similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are
obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I
can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an
honest "show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating the
Ron Paul drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and certainly
doesn't serve our readers ... at least those who aren't already in the
Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the
results of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I
get a little worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
What a douchebag.
I'd love to see those logs and do an analysis. I bet they're full of
***** on the bots .. or they're freaking idiots and didn't set the poll up
right.
Worse than a douchebag.. a doucehbag doesn't yank public polls.
The poll : http://www.rense.com/general78/vanish.htm
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
11 Oct 2007 11:34:05 PM |
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wrote in
news:1192163236.211200.25400@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
On Oct 11, 9:04 pm, z <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote
innews:Xns99C6DEBEB98B6riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide
Web and I tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our
CNBC Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a
poll on our Web site asking who readers thought won the debate. You
guys flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the
reader and take a quick temperature reading of your audience.
Nothing more and nothing less. The cyber equivalent of asking the
room for a show of hands on a certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus
votes after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by
the way, was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I
haven't seen him pull those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll.
Our poll was either hacked or the target of a campaign. So we took
the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support
messages. And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with
traffic from Ron Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls
that night had been hit in similar fashion. Congratulations. You
folks are obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your
candidate and I can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an
honest "show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating
the Ron Paul drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and
certainly doesn't serve our readers ... at least those who aren't
already in the Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the
poll down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can
throw the results of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of
"the many," I get a little worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
What a douchebag.
I'd love to see those logs and do an analysis. I bet they're full of
***** on the bots .. or they're freaking idiots and didn't set the
poll up right.
Worse than a douchebag.. a doucehbag doesn't yank public polls.
The poll : http://www.rense.com/general78/vanish.htm
yeah thanks for the link.
Still love to see those log files.. i deal with auto-post-bots every day
in my work and i'd be very interesting to see what was really going on on
that server.
Fox news claimed the same thing with the text vote poll:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/160507foxclaims.htm
http://dailypaul.com/node/1906
The media cocksuckers will do all they can do to have either Hillary or
Rudi as president.
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| User: "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" |
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
12 Oct 2007 01:19:15 AM |
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z <z@yada.yada.com> wrote in
news:Xns99C6D671611D1zyadayadayada@216.196.97.131:
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote
in news:Xns99C6DEBEB98B6riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web
and I tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our
CNBC Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a poll
on our Web site asking who readers thought won the debate. You guys
flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the reader
and take a quick temperature reading of your audience. Nothing more
and nothing less. The cyber equivalent of asking the room for a show
of hands on a certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus
votes after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by
the way, was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I haven't
seen him pull those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll. Our poll was
either hacked or the target of a campaign. So we took the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support
messages. And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with
traffic from Ron Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that
night had been hit in similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are
obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I
can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an
honest "show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating the
Ron Paul drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and certainly
doesn't serve our readers ... at least those who aren't already in
the Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the
poll down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw
the results of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the
many," I get a little worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
What a douchebag.
I'd love to see those logs and do an analysis. I bet they're full of
***** on the bots .. or they're freaking idiots and didn't set the poll
up right.
That was my question too. How do they know the voters were from Ron Paul
chat sites like they say??? And what if they were anyway?
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| User: "English-Elephant" |
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
12 Oct 2007 10:58:30 AM |
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As I'm not an American, I cant vote in 08, but I like to hear common
sense, and Ron Paul does talk a lot of common sense, for example
"blowback" = common sense, plus he has the experience, although I dont
agree with his stand on abortion, I would vote for him. By the way how
far along do you have to go before some of the no-hopers drop out, do
they just keep going till they run out of money?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: CNBC ADMITS they cancelled poll because Ron Paul was WINNING |
12 Oct 2007 11:07:08 AM |
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On Oct 12, 8:58 am, English-Elephant <mancm...@googlemail.com> wrote:
As I'm not an American, I cant vote in 08, but I like to hear common
sense, and Ron Paul does talk a lot of common sense, for example
"blowback" = common sense, plus he has the experience, although I dont
agree with his stand on abortion, I would vote for him. By the way how
far along do you have to go before some of the no-hopers drop out, do
they just keep going till they run out of money?
As far as I know what he says on abortion is that it is a state matter
- not a federal one.
If your state gov says pro-choice or pro-life is ok.. then it's ok.
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| User: "" |
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11 Oct 2007 11:03:16 PM |
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On Oct 11, 8:53 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the results
of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I get a little
worried. I'd take it down again.
Jeez.. when neocon lackeys take it upon themselves to censor a vote by
the public.. 'we is in deeep doo doo, peoples'.
And if Ghouliani would have pulled 75%.. what then?
Would that dude have yanked the poll too?
Highly unlikely...
Shameful crap.
Here (for educational purposes) is a save of that poll - before MSNBC
in their neocon brilliance - yanked it:
http://www.rense.com/general78/vanish.htm
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| User: "Molesworth" |
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12 Oct 2007 06:43:50 AM |
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In article <1192161796.004757.287320@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
http://www.rense.com/general78/vanish.htm
I'm amazed they asked Ron Paul to participate in the first place...
Go Ron Paul!
--
Molesworth
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| User: "Scotius Ponti Fickatur" |
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12 Oct 2007 10:24:00 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:03:16 -0700, wrote:
On Oct 11, 8:53 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the results
of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I get a little
worried. I'd take it down again.
Jeez.. when neocon lackeys take it upon themselves to censor a vote by
the public.. 'we is in deeep doo doo, peoples'.
And if Ghouliani would have pulled 75%.. what then?
Would that dude have yanked the poll too?
Highly unlikely...
Shameful crap.
Here (for educational purposes) is a save of that poll - before MSNBC
in their neocon brilliance - yanked it:
http://www.rense.com/general78/vanish.htm
That's what it is - vote censoring. The fact that no one
trusts Bush and Cheney or any of the Democratic frontrunners except
the ones they don't know (Obama... all one of him) is indicative of
the fact that Americans have wisened up a bit about politics as usual
in their country. "They" don't like that.
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| User: "Go Mavs" |
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11 Oct 2007 10:59:24 PM |
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those call in polls and online polls are pointless... Ron Paul fantatics,
which is what they are, come out in full force... but when the elections
start, Paul will not even get 4 percent of the vote...
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns99C6DEBEB98B6riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21257762/site/14081545
4 hours ago
An Open Letter to the Ron Paul Faithful
Editor's Note:
Dear folks,
You guys are good. Real good. You are truly a force on World Wide Web and
I
tip my hat to you.
That's based on my first hand experience of your work regarding our CNBC
Republican candidate debate. After the debate, we put up a poll on our Web
site asking who readers thought won the debate. You guys flooded it.
Now these Internet polls are admittedly unscientific and subject to
hacking. In the end, they are really just a way to engage the reader and
take a quick temperature reading of your audience. Nothing more and
nothing
less. The cyber equivalent of asking the room for a show of hands on a
certain question.
So there was our after-debate poll. The numbers grew ... 7,000-plus votes
after a couple of hours ... and Ron Paul was at 75%.
Now Paul is a fine gentleman with some substantial backing and, by the
way,
was a dynamic presence throughout the debate , but I haven't seen him pull
those kind of numbers in any "legit" poll. Our poll was either hacked or
the target of a campaign. So we took the poll down.
The next day, our email basked was flooded with Ron Paul support messages.
And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with traffic from Ron
Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that night had been hit in
similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are obviously well-organized
and feel strongly about your candidate and I can't help but admire that.
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an honest
"show of hands" -- it suddenly was a platform for beating the Ron Paul
drum. That certainly wasn't our intention and certainly doesn't serve our
readers ... at least those who aren't already in the Ron Paul camp.
Some of you Ron Paul fans take issue with my decision to take the poll
down. Fine. When a well-organized and committed "few" can throw the
results
of a system meant to reflect the sentiments of "the many," I get a little
worried. I'd take it down again.
Sincerely,
Allen Wastler
Managing Editor, CNBC.com
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12 Oct 2007 01:17:21 AM |
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"Go Mavs" <Mavz@Maverickz.com> wrote in
news:wiCPi.4850$d2.4688@trnddc08:
those call in polls and online polls are pointless... Ron Paul
fantatics, which is what they are, come out in full force... but when
the elections start, Paul will not even get 4 percent of the vote...
You wouldn't be saying that if your god mccain got 75%.
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| User: "Go Mavs" |
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12 Oct 2007 05:55:17 AM |
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"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns99C72F07B159riemann1850yahoocom@216.168.3.70...
"Go Mavs" <Mavz@Maverickz.com> wrote in
news:wiCPi.4850$d2.4688@trnddc08:
those call in polls and online polls are pointless... Ron Paul
fantatics, which is what they are, come out in full force... but when
the elections start, Paul will not even get 4 percent of the vote...
You wouldn't be saying that if your god mccain got 75%.
My God McCain?
LoL!
This news group gets more silly by the day.
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