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Date: 03 Oct 2006 02:04:56 AM
Object: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever'
U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.
U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.
U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!
In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?
Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds
Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.
September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.
Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.
The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.
"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.
Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.
The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.
According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.
Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.
It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.
To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.
Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."
"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816
.

User: "Homeless Capital of the U.S."

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 05:43:14 AM
wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's theirs -- FOR FREE.

It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.
.
User: "Ramon F Herrera"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 10:04:49 AM
Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.

....and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.
That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.
-Ramon
.
User: "H. Reader"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 04 Oct 2006 03:40:38 PM
"Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in message
news:1159887889.699436.106110@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have what's considered to be a very good health
insurance coverage at work but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all they need do is show up at any U.S.
hospital, public or private, give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.


...and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.

That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.

No, the laws should deport them. You scum have no place
in this country.
.

User: "Graphic Queen"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 01:16:36 PM
On 3 Oct 2006 08:04:49 -0700, "Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net>
wrote:


Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.


...and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.

That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.

-Ramon

And you prove again how stupid you are if you truly believe that
double speak Ramon.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 10:17:34 AM
Ramon F Herrera wrote:

Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.


...and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.

That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.

-Ramon

Ramon, Bush only cares about supplying cheap labor to his cronies.
He claims he wants them out of the shadows because he got busted by
Americans when they realized the magnitude of this invasion and what it
is costing we the taxpayer. So now he seeks to legalize them as a
front to cover up his lack of enforcement of our immigration laws and
border security, saying "well we cannot deport them there are too many
now". He doesn't really care about the illegals or us citizens, get
real. You can bet he and all the other open border types will try to
figure out some new strategy to keep the flow of illegal alien labor
flowing. Notice nothing has been done to sanction the employers who
hire them and a monitored system in place to make sure it doesn't
happen in the future.
.
User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 01:04:05 PM
<skm1942@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1159888653.995644.181000@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Ramon F Herrera wrote:

Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE
(all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private,
give a fake name and address or even their real name and >address and
it's theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed its
county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants, and
is bad for Americans.


...and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.

That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.

-Ramon


Ramon, Bush only cares about supplying cheap labor to his cronies.
He claims he wants them out of the shadows because he got busted by
Americans when they realized the magnitude of this invasion and what it
is costing we the taxpayer. So now he seeks to legalize them as a
front to cover up his lack of enforcement of our immigration laws and
border security, saying "well we cannot deport them there are too many
now". He doesn't really care about the illegals or us citizens, get
real. You can bet he and all the other open border types will try to
figure out some new strategy to keep the flow of illegal alien labor
flowing. Notice nothing has been done to sanction the employers who
hire them and a monitored system in place to make sure it doesn't
happen in the future.

That is pure sillinessness. Bush or anyone else cannot stop people from
doing what they want to do.
.

User: "Ramon F Herrera"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 10:41:58 AM
(Sandy Myers) wrote:

Ramon, doesn't really care about the illegals or us citizens, get real.

Of course he cares about us. Take a good look at this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12892962/site/newsweek/
The immigration issue is personal for him. In the article they portray
his position as sincere and heartfelt. I for one believe him.
-Ramon
.
User: "Graphic Queen"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 01:17:42 PM
On 3 Oct 2006 08:41:58 -0700, "Ramon F Herrera" <ramon@conexus.net>
wrote:

skm1942@msn.com (Sandy Myers) wrote:

Ramon, doesn't really care about the illegals or us citizens, get real.


Of course he cares about us. Take a good look at this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12892962/site/newsweek/

The immigration issue is personal for him. In the article they portray
his position as sincere and heartfelt. I for one believe him.

-Ramon

Proving even yet again how stupid you are. Anyone believing a
politician, especially a liar like Bush, is ignorant or stupid, or
both like you Ramon.
.


User: "GRH GRH @sbcglobal.net"

Title: Re: CNN: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 10:29:32 AM
EXACTLY
<skm1942@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1159888653.995644.181000@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Ramon F Herrera wrote:

Homeless Capital of the U.S. wrote:

GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com wrote:

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have

what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work but
STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the

premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE

(all they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and >address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE.


It isn't the exact same health care, because they will get their lives
saved only. If they're left with a disfigured face, a paralyzed arm, a
temporary colostomy (the bowel rerouted to a hole in the side), they
will not be able to return to the hospital to get these things fixed.
And they would not be eligible for Vocational Rehabilitation or
Medicaid, although some states would offer it for a life-saving
emergency or for childbirth. Some large county hospitals may do this,
but they have been going out of business. Orange County, CA closed

its

county hospital years ago, and the Sonoma County (CA) hospital my aunt
died in in the 1970s is gone. I've heard that Fresno, CA no longer has
theirs also. This may have been partly or largly caused by so much
emergency care given to illegals and impoverished legal immigrants,

and

is bad for Americans.


...and most of them, being paid under the table, will not get Worker's
Comp, either.

That's why president Bush said that we need to have them come out of
the shadows, to where the laws can protect them.

-Ramon


Ramon, Bush only cares about supplying cheap labor to his cronies.
He claims he wants them out of the shadows because he got busted by
Americans when they realized the magnitude of this invasion and what it
is costing we the taxpayer. So now he seeks to legalize them as a
front to cover up his lack of enforcement of our immigration laws and
border security, saying "well we cannot deport them there are too many
now". He doesn't really care about the illegals or us citizens, get
real. You can bet he and all the other open border types will try to
figure out some new strategy to keep the flow of illegal alien labor
flowing. Notice nothing has been done to sanction the employers who
hire them and a monitored system in place to make sure it doesn't
happen in the future.

.




User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 01:02:38 PM
Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could get
free access to emergency care.
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1159859096.682263.320480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816

.
User: ""

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 09:55:39 PM
Jerry Okamura wrote:

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could get
free access to emergency care.

You're not THAT naive, are you? I sure hope not!
The fact is (as you well know) that U.S. citizens are EASILY tracked
down when it comes to billing. If/when WE try to ignore paying OUR
bills all the creditors need do is use aour SS numbers, among other
things available to them. In contrast, the illegals COMMONLY carry
totally fraudulent identification, and even the bulsshit "Matricula
Consular" IDcard issued to Mexican illegals is notoriously insecure
(leading anti-illegal-alien-invasion legislator Tom Tancredo has one,
as does D.A. King of The American Resistance.)
Bottom line: U.S. citizens are easily traceable and their wages can
be garnished etc. in many cases as well. Illegal aliens, in contrast,
are well-versed in the use of false ID, are eminently UN-traceable,
work OFF-THE-BOOKS and thus their wages (those who work and who aren't
living solely on welfare) cannot be garnished. It's kind of hard to
force someone to pay for their $100,000 medical care if you don;t know
who they are, where they REALLY live or other pertinent facts.

"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
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U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816

.
User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 04 Oct 2006 01:38:55 PM
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1159930539.533201.62330@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

Jerry Okamura wrote:

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could
get
free access to emergency care.


You're not THAT naive, are you? I sure hope not!

The fact is (as you well know) that U.S. citizens are EASILY tracked
down when it comes to billing. If/when WE try to ignore paying OUR
bills all the creditors need do is use aour SS numbers, among other
things available to them. In contrast, the illegals COMMONLY carry
totally fraudulent identification, and even the bulsshit "Matricula
Consular" IDcard issued to Mexican illegals is notoriously insecure
(leading anti-illegal-alien-invasion legislator Tom Tancredo has one,
as does D.A. King of The American Resistance.)

Bottom line: U.S. citizens are easily traceable and their wages can
be garnished etc. in many cases as well. Illegal aliens, in contrast,
are well-versed in the use of false ID, are eminently UN-traceable,
work OFF-THE-BOOKS and thus their wages (those who work and who aren't
living solely on welfare) cannot be garnished. It's kind of hard to
force someone to pay for their $100,000 medical care if you don;t know
who they are, where they REALLY live or other pertinent facts.


I'll tell you a real story. One of my aunts (a US citizen) was visiting her
daughter in Los Angeles, when they discovered that she had liver failure.
Who paid for all the care she received, which ultimately included a liver
transplant? The State of California paid for all of that service, because
simply because she was not a resident of California.
.


User: "Timmy"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 03:40:34 PM
The next time I go to the hospital if ever...I will pretend not to speak
English, with no id.
"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2BxUg.73$zy2.17@tornado.socal.rr.com...

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could
get free access to emergency care.

"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1159859096.682263.320480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816



.
User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 06:49:11 PM
You don't even have to go to that extreme. Just say you don't have the
money to pay for the service you need, as soon as you show up at the
Emergency ward. I am willing to bet they will still see you. Especially if
what is wrong with you, is really serious. About the only way they will
turn you away that I can think of, is "if" they do not think you need any
help.
"Timmy" <Thy@gilbert.edu> wrote in message
news:12i5imadqciq366@corp.supernews.com...

The next time I go to the hospital if ever...I will pretend not to speak
English, with no id.


"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2BxUg.73$zy2.17@tornado.socal.rr.com...

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could
get free access to emergency care.

"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1159859096.682263.320480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816





.
User: "gringogirl"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 08:57:38 PM
Jerry Okamura wrote:

You don't even have to go to that extreme. Just say you don't have the
money to pay for the service you need, as soon as you show up at the
Emergency ward. I am willing to bet they will still see you. Especially if
what is wrong with you, is really serious. About the only way they will
turn you away that I can think of, is "if" they do not think you need any
help.

"Timmy" <Thy@gilbert.edu> wrote in message
news:12i5imadqciq366@corp.supernews.com...

The next time I go to the hospital if ever...I will pretend not to speak
English, with no id.


"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2BxUg.73$zy2.17@tornado.socal.rr.com...

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to could
get free access to emergency care.

wrong again- americans are tracked as far as their credit goes- they
arent using some other american's social security like the illegal
aliens ( i only come here to make money for my family so i Have the
right steal from you and your family ) sure , you can be seen at the
emergency ward and you will be tracked for years. you may not be able
to rent an apartment because of an unpaid bill .Illegals can always go
back to mexico or buy another fake id. for some reason, they have no
problem renting- landlords love them because without 28 milllion
illegals a lot of landlords would have to lower prices and actually
fix apartments. > >>

"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
message news:1159859096.682263.320480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816





.
User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 04 Oct 2006 01:33:34 PM
"gringogirl" <sumarlidhi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159927058.407243.230060@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


Jerry Okamura wrote:

You don't even have to go to that extreme. Just say you don't have the
money to pay for the service you need, as soon as you show up at the
Emergency ward. I am willing to bet they will still see you. Especially
if
what is wrong with you, is really serious. About the only way they will
turn you away that I can think of, is "if" they do not think you need any
help.

"Timmy" <Thy@gilbert.edu> wrote in message
news:12i5imadqciq366@corp.supernews.com...

The next time I go to the hospital if ever...I will pretend not to
speak
English, with no id.


"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:2BxUg.73$zy2.17@tornado.socal.rr.com...

Well, actually all you have to do is do the same thing, and you to
could
get free access to emergency care.


wrong again- americans are tracked as far as their credit goes- they
arent using some other american's social security like the illegal
aliens ( i only come here to make money for my family so i Have the
right steal from you and your family ) sure , you can be seen at the
emergency ward and you will be tracked for years. you may not be able
to rent an apartment because of an unpaid bill .Illegals can always go
back to mexico or buy another fake id. for some reason, they have no
problem renting- landlords love them because without 28 milllion
illegals a lot of landlords would have to lower prices and actually
fix apartments. > >>

Huh?
.


User: ""

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 03 Oct 2006 10:05:07 PM
Jerry Okamura wrote:

You don't even have to go to that extreme. Just say you don't have the
money to pay for the service you need, as soon as you show up at the
Emergency ward. I am willing to bet they will still see you. Especially if
what is wrong with you, is really serious. About the only way they will
turn you away that I can think of, is "if" they do not think you need any
help.

Again, you're truly not THAT clueless, are you?
No one is claiming that citizens (or illegals) won't be treated at
any ER in the USA. The issue is PAYING for the services received. The
hosptals can make life hell for U.S. citizens who owe them money; OTOH,
since in many if not most circumstances the illegals presented fake ID
to the hospital in the first place they -- the illegals -- will NEVER
pay for their own treatment.
And THIS, moreover, is EXACTLY why Americans (for years now, if truth
be told) are paying $40 for a box of Kleenex, $79 for an aspirin, $163
for an IV etc.: WE ARE SUBSIDIZNING NONPAYING ILLEGAL ALIENS. In fact,
one hospital administrator recently publically acknowledged that U.S.
hispitals nowadays are shiftung the cost of treating illegal aliens BY
MAKING U.S. CITIZENS PAY EXHORBITANT CHARGES.
Incidentally, this past summer I had occasion to visit the Kaiser
Permanente hospital in Rivderside, California several times. IT'S
LOADED WITH NON-ENGLISH-SPEAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS. The restrooms on the
maternity ward floor bear Hispanic illegal alien gang grafitti, the
waiting areas are packed with illegal aliens and one sees a parade of
very pregnnant, non-English-speaking illegal alien peasants in and out
of the OB/GYN officies.
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User: "Jerry Okamura"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 04 Oct 2006 01:35:37 PM
"GeorgeWashingtonAdmirer@adelphia.com" <guybannister58@aol.com> wrote in
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Jerry Okamura wrote:

You don't even have to go to that extreme. Just say you don't have the
money to pay for the service you need, as soon as you show up at the
Emergency ward. I am willing to bet they will still see you. Especially
if
what is wrong with you, is really serious. About the only way they will
turn you away that I can think of, is "if" they do not think you need any
help.


Again, you're truly not THAT clueless, are you?

No one is claiming that citizens (or illegals) won't be treated at
any ER in the USA. The issue is PAYING for the services received. The
hosptals can make life hell for U.S. citizens who owe them money; OTOH,
since in many if not most circumstances the illegals presented fake ID
to the hospital in the first place they -- the illegals -- will NEVER
pay for their own treatment.

I was responding to the comment, "The next time I go to the hospital if
ever...I will pretend not to speak
English, with no id."....
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User: "mcs"

Title: Re: As illegal aliens flourish, middle-class U.S. citizen families 'in worse shape than ever' 07 Oct 2006 07:48:23 AM
You mean they don't own stock lol
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U.S. citizens pay hefty medical insurance premiums (I myself have
what's considered to be a very good health insurance coverage at work
but STILL have to pay almost $400 monthly out-of-pocket towards the
premium; illegal aliens pay NOTHING for the EXACT SAME HEALTH CARE (all
they need do is show up at any U.S. hospital, public or private, give a
fake name and address or even their real name and address and it's
theirs -- FOR FREE. If not even the police know these people's true
identities, and lying, scheming and cheating is a deeply, deeply
ingrained part of their very being (as it is in Mexico, for example)
then how could a hospital hope to pin them down and make them pay up?
Hence the MANY DOZENS of hospital emergency rooms bankrupted by
non-paying illegals from coast to coast.

U.S. citizens, raised to obey the law and weaned on the precept that
their country is "a nation of laws," pay many hundreds of dollars
yearly to insure and register their vehicles; illegals worry about NONE
of these trivialities as they openly, and in DROVES, flout driving
laws. I estimate that where I live in Southern California at least 1/3
of the drivers I see daily are illegal aliens driving (illegally, of
course) without licenses, insurance or registration. But it's people
like me -- U.S. citizens -- who get pulled over by cops (as occurred
with me a couple of weeks ago) and ticketed/fined for extremely minor
violations, even as millions of illegal alien drivers ply the same
roads in COMPLETE violation ov EVERY traffic law on the books.

U.S. citizen parents of school-aged kids must cough up about $4.00
cold cash daily to enable their kids to eat hot breakfasts and lunches
at school; illegal alien kids and the U.S.-born anchor babies of
illegal aliens (who are actually, via a correct interpretation of the
14th Amednment, ALSO illegal aliens) are given the same hot meals FOR
FREE. (I'm reminded of a recent news article reporting that prices for
meals in the Moreno Valley Unified School District have been increased
by $.25 this school year -- but the question of exactly WHO would
overwhelmingly be impacted by the price hike was, not surprisingly,
ignored by the pro-illegal-alien newspaper (The Riverside
Press-Enterprise): the U.S. citizn kids of U.S.-citizen parents, of
course, since illegal aliens' kids virtually ALL eat for free!

In light of the above, is it at all surprising that even MSM bulwarks
Reuters and CNN cannot but acknowledge that Americans are HURTING
DEEPLY financially, in fact, "in worse shape than ever"?

Needless to say, the politically correct (i.e. culturally Marxist)
author glaringly avoids any reference to the illegal alien invasion as
in any way being connected with Americans' being "in worse shape ever,"
of course.
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Middle-class families in worse shape than ever, study finds

Typical families have not stashed enough money; struggling to pay for
home, insurance, and education according to Center for American
Progress.

September 28 2006: 4:41 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The typical double-income family is worse off
financially than ever, a study released Thursday said, warning that few
Americans have saved enough to brace for financial setbacks.

Middle-class families are struggling to pay for a home, health
insurance, transportation and their children's college with wages that
have not kept pace with higher prices, according to the study by a
think tank headed by a former top aide to President Bill Clinton.

The middle class's financial condition has been a key issue ahead of
the November elections, as Democrats warn that this group is fast
losing economic ground amid skyrocketing prices and tax cuts that offer
them little benefit.

"In our estimates, it's becoming harder for families to afford what we
consider a typical middle-class lifestyle," said economist Christian
Weller of the Center for American Progress, the political think tank
headed by John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff.

Weller cautioned that while Americans are taking on more debt to cover
higher costs, wages have not kept pace.

The majority of Americans have not socked away enough money to brace
for financial setbacks such as a job loss or a medical emergency.

According to the study, less than a third of all American families have
accumulated income equaling three months of their wages. The trend is
particularly pronounced among the 60 percent income distribution that
makes up the middle class: those with dual incomes earning from $18,500
to $88,030 a year.

From 2001 to 2004, the proportion of middle-class families that has

saved three months' worth of income dropped to 18.3 percent from 28.8
percent, the study said.

Higher prices for a range of things - including health care, energy,
transportation, food and education - have put Americans in this
position as corporate profits have risen, the study said.

It said, that five years into the current economic recovery, average
job growth is one-fifth that of previous business cycles and wages are
flat when inflation is factored into the equation.

To maintain day-to-day consumption, families have taken on a record
amount of debt, equal to 126.4 percent of disposable income in the
first quarter of 2006, according to the study.

Commenting on the study, SEIU Labor Union President Andy Stern said,
"Of the total amount of our economy and income, we have the greatest
share going to profits in modern history and the least amount going to
wages in modern history."

"For most working Americans, things are far worse than any time
certainly in recent history and at a time of an incredibly growing
economy." said Stern, whose union represents 1.1 million health care
workers.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/28/news/economy/middle_class.reut/index.htm?postversion=2006092816

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