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"Harry Hope" |
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14 May 2004 03:48:49 PM |
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CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
That development appears to be helping Sen. John Kerry, the
presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.
He wins the support of 51 percent of likely voters, compared to 46
percent for Bush. In February, Bush was ahead of Kerry by two
percentage points.
If Independent Ralph Nader is among the choices, Kerry gets 49
percent, Bush 44 percent and Nader 6 percent.
Bush's overall job approval rating fell from 49 percent to 46 percent
since the last CNN/Time poll on April 8, while his disapproval rating
rose from 47 percent to 49 percent -- the first time that more people
disapproved of Bush's job performance than approved.
More people than not believe that going to war with Iraq was the right
thing to do, but that number has declined to 48 percent in this poll,
compared to 53 percent in April.
And 56 percent of those polled say the war is not worth U.S. lives and
other costs.
The poll was conducted by telephone Wednesday and Thursday, at a time
when the scandal over the U.S. abuse of Iraqi prisoners was dominating
news coverage, along with the beheading of American Nicholas Berg in
Iraq.
The margin of error for the total sample of 1,001 adult Americans is
3.1 percentage points, but that margin varied for questions
specifically asked of smaller groups, such as likely voters.
The prison abuse scandal stunned Americans, 27 percent of whom said it
made them "less supportive" of the war in Iraq.
And 55 percent of those polled said Bush is doing a poor job of
handling Iraq, compared to 39 percent who said he was doing a good
job.
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Slowly but surely.
Harry
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| User: "Dennis Howdy" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
14 May 2004 04:25:31 PM |
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In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
______________________________________________________________
Slowly but surely.
Harry
--
"Be suspicious of anybody who claims to know the truth."
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| User: "Republican Double Standard" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 12:57:52 PM |
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Dennis <Howdy Doody@doody.net> wrote in
news:10aaeae24vimtca@corp.supernews.com:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
I am looking for your admonishments to people who post polls results
showing Bush to ahead but I cannot find them. What makes a poll
"scientific" in your pov? The result?
--
"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.
- http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030714-3.html
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| User: "Dennis Howdy" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 05:54:49 PM |
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In article <Xns94EA8E03CBB5FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>,
bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...
Dennis <Howdy Doody@doody.net> wrote in
news:10aaeae24vimtca@corp.supernews.com:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
I am looking for your admonishments to people who post polls results
showing Bush to ahead but I cannot find them. What makes a poll
"scientific" in your pov? The result?
No, the method used to obtain the result. I was overzealous in my
criticism of some of the other poster on their polling results. But CNN
does outsource some of their polls. That is, they get a random sample.
Anyway, for me it is good news, since Bush is where he should be....behind.
I also respect people who admit when they're wrong. Bush has yet to admit
being wrong on anything. That's real scary.
-Dennis
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"Be suspicious of anybody who claims to know the truth."
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| User: "Republican Double Standard" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
17 May 2004 10:37:44 AM |
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Dennis <Howdy Doody@doody.net> wrote in
news:10ad7tulurvsjf5@corp.supernews.com:
In article <Xns94EA8E03CBB5FbiodudeNOSPAMhotmail@130.133.1.4>,
bio_dudeNOSPAM@hotmail.com says...
Dennis <Howdy Doody@doody.net> wrote in
news:10aaeae24vimtca@corp.supernews.com:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
I am looking for your admonishments to people who post polls results
showing Bush to ahead but I cannot find them. What makes a poll
"scientific" in your pov? The result?
No, the method used to obtain the result. I was overzealous in my
criticism of some of the other poster on their polling results. But
CNN does outsource some of their polls. That is, they get a random
sample.
Anyway, for me it is good news, since Bush is where he should
be....behind.
I also respect people who admit when they're wrong. Bush has yet to
admit being wrong on anything. That's real scary.
Agreed.
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"We gave Hussein a chance to allow inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in."
- George WMD. Bush, lying on July 14, 2003.
- http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/07/20030714-3.html
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| User: "Madelin McKinnon" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 10:05:20 PM |
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Lke the travesty in Iraq, the case against Michael Jackson
reflects a total perversion of our cherished legal system:
http://www.geocities.com/botenth/dunlap.htm
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 12:52:47 PM |
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Republican Double Standard wrote:
Dennis <Howdy Doody@doody.net> wrote in
Drivel deleted......
I am looking for your admonishments to people who post polls results
showing Bush to ahead but I cannot find them. What makes a poll
"scientific" in your pov? The result?
The ones he likes. Give this mess another two weeks to
ferment and lets look at the polls then.
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Rich Travsky" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 06:35:54 PM |
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Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Dennis I strongly suggest you follow links so as to not appear like
an idiot...
RT
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| User: "Tempest" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 09:06:08 PM |
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Rich Travsky wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Dennis I strongly suggest you follow links so as to not appear like
an idiot...
It's much too late for that.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "Dennis Howdy" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
16 May 2004 10:37:19 AM |
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In article <40A6CCC9.2060302@hotmail.com>, says...
Rich Travsky wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Dennis I strongly suggest you follow links so as to not appear like
an idiot...
It's much too late for that.
This isn't a forum for personal attacts, but in your case it can't
be helped. This is because you are one self-rightous *****. So
I would suggest that you zip your trap. Got it *****?
-Dennis
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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"Be suspicious of anybody who claims to know the truth."
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| User: "Dennis Howdy" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
16 May 2004 10:02:33 AM |
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In article <40A6CCC9.2060302@hotmail.com>, says...
Rich Travsky wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Dennis I strongly suggest you follow links so as to not appear like
an idiot...
It's much too late for that.
Too late for what. Be specfic.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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"Be suspicious of anybody who claims to know the truth."
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
14 May 2004 08:55:34 PM |
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Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific.
And your bare opinion is?
It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population.
I assume large outfits like CNN/Time magazine that have
using polls for years know what they are doing.
Your laughable accusations are right winger sour grapes is all.
Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Its easy really, the Prisongate scandals are dragging Busho
down. His economic policies are making people nervous.
His inability to speak English or tell the truth repel
many people. 60% of Americans polled say Amerca is going in teh worng
direction.
So its only a miracle Bush isn't down in the 40's yet.
Now, stop bleating!
This is right in line with the Pew polls and other recent polls.
Check Rasmussen.
-Dennis
______________________________________________________________
Slowly but surely.
Harry
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "tenjets" |
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14 May 2004 10:58:40 PM |
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:40a58e64$0$17095$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific.
And your bare opinion is?
It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population.
I assume large outfits like CNN/Time magazine that have
using polls for years know what they are doing.
Your laughable accusations are right winger sour grapes is all.
Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
Its easy really, the Prisongate scandals are dragging Busho
down. His economic policies are making people nervous.
His inability to speak English or tell the truth repel
many people. 60% of Americans polled say Amerca is going in teh worng
direction.
So its only a miracle Bush isn't down in the 40's yet.
Now, stop bleating!
This is right in line with the Pew polls and other recent polls.
Check Rasmussen.
You're right about that reaction to a CNN poll....when I was living in
Oregon a local talk show hate spewer was accusing, typicall, cnn polls as
being invalid because they showed gore in the lead. The talk show wasn't so
critical when bush took the lead.
-Dennis
______________________________________________________________
Slowly but surely.
Harry
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"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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16 May 2004 12:24:27 PM |
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wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Dennis wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific.
And your bare opinion is?
The problem is, such polls _aren't_ significant. The questions are
formed and staged to elicit specific results; they're not done in
any scientific way. They're meaningless without knowing what the
questions were and what the various demographics of the polled were.
---
Scientology tries to disrupt terrorist attacks relief efforts: http://www.cosvm.org/
George W. Bush's latest policy: "No Child Left Untortured Act."
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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16 May 2004 02:10:20 PM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
wbarwell <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Dennis wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific.
And your bare opinion is?
The problem is, such polls _aren't_ significant.
No, well run polls are quite significant, this is simply tosh.
The questions are
formed and staged to elicit specific results; they're not done in
any scientific way.
You are simply wrong.
When basically well run polls by major polling
companies have a convergent result, in this case
Bush slipping as Prisongate erupts around us,
it is significant.
And these polling companies know what they are doing.
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Bradly Wiebe" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
14 May 2004 05:00:42 PM |
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Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which would still leave
Kerry with the lead.
______________________________________________________________
Slowly but surely.
Harry
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"Be suspicious of anybody who claims to know the truth."
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| User: "Tempest" |
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14 May 2004 06:35:28 PM |
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Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which would still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "tenjets" |
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14 May 2004 09:45:08 PM |
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"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40A557F9.6040108@hotmail.com...
Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are the ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of random.
cheers,
th
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"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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14 May 2004 10:13:33 PM |
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"tenjets" <doh@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:Uufpc.67327$9Y.23179@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40A557F9.6040108@hotmail.com...
Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are the ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of random.
Moron taking the lead from a moron. CNN/Time poll is not done on a website,
it a random poll just like all the rest.
cheers,
th
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "tenjets" |
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14 May 2004 10:51:04 PM |
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Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's
job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released
Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are the
ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have
methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of random.
Moron taking the lead from a moron. CNN/Time poll is not done on a
website,
it a random poll just like all the rest.
Your criticism I thing is getting mixed in the muddle....Not sure who you're
calling a moron, but I was saying that website polls are not random, and
polls run by polling companies hired by CNN and following statistical
sampling rules are valid. Based on your other posts, we agree. Wanna be
friends?
cheers,
th
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "none of the above" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 06:45:17 AM |
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Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President Bush's
job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released
Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which
would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are the
ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have
methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of random.
Moron taking the lead from a moron. CNN/Time poll is not done on a
website,
it a random poll just like all the rest.
Your criticism I thing is getting mixed in the muddle....Not sure who
you're
calling a moron, but I was saying that website polls are not random, and
polls run by polling companies hired by CNN and following statistical
sampling rules are valid. Based on your other posts, we agree. Wanna be
friends?
Sure, I'll be friends with the morons,too. Newsgroups by their structure
are messages mixed and muddled. I used to try to keep up with more than one
NG but you have to either skim or do this full time. I came to realize that
the posters like Harry Hope do nothing but this.
It amazes me that by the time any thread begins to really address an issue,
almost everyone has moved on except those that are shouting at each other.
Not a really good way to have a discussion. So I periodically choose a post
and write, not for the group, but as a record. I can go back now to August
of 2002 when Bush was strutting his bravado and read my posts stating that
if he went to war the region would become enflamed. I don't have to say I
said it, because it is in black and white on the page.
So, the rest of the time I skim and sometimes get the players mixed. At
least I only misidentified you rather than torture or shoot you mistakenly.
cheers,
th
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "tenjets" |
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15 May 2004 08:27:45 AM |
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Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President
Bush's
job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released
Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which
would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are the
ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have
methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of
random.
Moron taking the lead from a moron. CNN/Time poll is not done on a
website,
it a random poll just like all the rest.
Your criticism I thing is getting mixed in the muddle....Not sure who
you're
calling a moron, but I was saying that website polls are not random, and
polls run by polling companies hired by CNN and following statistical
sampling rules are valid. Based on your other posts, we agree. Wanna be
friends?
Sure, I'll be friends with the morons,too. Newsgroups by their structure
are messages mixed and muddled. I used to try to keep up with more than
one
NG but you have to either skim or do this full time. I came to realize
that
the posters like Harry Hope do nothing but this.
It amazes me that by the time any thread begins to really address an
issue,
almost everyone has moved on except those that are shouting at each other.
Not a really good way to have a discussion. So I periodically choose a
post
and write, not for the group, but as a record. I can go back now to
August
of 2002 when Bush was strutting his bravado and read my posts stating that
if he went to war the region would become enflamed. I don't have to say I
said it, because it is in black and white on the page.
So, the rest of the time I skim and sometimes get the players mixed. At
least I only misidentified you rather than torture or shoot you
mistakenly.
As one moron to another, then, thanks for not torturing me or shooting me by
mistake.
cheers,
th
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our
marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
.
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| User: "none of the above" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 07:27:27 PM |
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Bradly Wiebe wrote:
Dennis wrote:
In article <u4caa0tfn57heuibgv5h9psecqt4bk2814@4ax.com>,
rivrvu@ix.netcom.com
says...
From CNN, 5/14/04:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/14/bush.kerry/index.html
Poll: Support for Bush, Iraq war dropping
Kerry leads Bush in matchups
(CNN) --
As Americans express growing unease about Iraq, President
Bush's
job
approval rating has taken a hit, according to a poll released
Friday
by CNN and Time magazine.
Harry I strongly suggest that you take a course in statistics.
The CNN poll is nowhere near scientific. It does not come
from a representative sample of the US population. Therefore,
no useful conclsions can be drawn from it. There are just too
many biasing variables. So stop bringing in all this
gargage, and taking up valuable bandwidth!
-Dennis
Did you say that in February when Bush had the lead?
The news report shows a margin of error of 3.1 percent, which
would
still leave
Kerry with the lead.
He's a dumbass.
CNN and Time don't do their own polling, they contract it out to
professional pollsters.
And this poll is in line with what other pollsters are saying.
Right....the only "polls" you don't want to pay attention to are
the
ones
that invite website surfers to participate; the professionals have
methods
to ensure randomness. Websites are just about the opposite of
random.
Moron taking the lead from a moron. CNN/Time poll is not done on a
website,
it a random poll just like all the rest.
Your criticism I thing is getting mixed in the muddle....Not sure who
you're
calling a moron, but I was saying that website polls are not random,
and
polls run by polling companies hired by CNN and following statistical
sampling rules are valid. Based on your other posts, we agree. Wanna
be
friends?
Sure, I'll be friends with the morons,too. Newsgroups by their
structure
are messages mixed and muddled. I used to try to keep up with more than
one
NG but you have to either skim or do this full time. I came to realize
that
the posters like Harry Hope do nothing but this.
It amazes me that by the time any thread begins to really address an
issue,
almost everyone has moved on except those that are shouting at each
other.
Not a really good way to have a discussion. So I periodically choose a
post
and write, not for the group, but as a record. I can go back now to
August
of 2002 when Bush was strutting his bravado and read my posts stating
that
if he went to war the region would become enflamed. I don't have to say
I
said it, because it is in black and white on the page.
So, the rest of the time I skim and sometimes get the players mixed. At
least I only misidentified you rather than torture or shoot you
mistakenly.
As one moron to another, then, thanks for not torturing me or shooting me
by
mistake.
I would never torture or shoot anyone. I had my chance to kill people, and
declined. I served four months in the 1st Cav in Viet Nam (got wounded and
sent stateside) and I have never fired a weapon in my life. The only
torture I inflict is that some time people have to listen to my ranting. I
love you. I love the morons. I am not real fond of the results that come
from the morons.
Moving on.
cheers,
th
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our
marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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| User: "cep" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 08:01:15 PM |
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I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
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| User: "Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 08:09:30 PM |
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Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below 50%
at any time preceding the election.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
.
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| User: "none of the above" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 09:13:15 PM |
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"Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn" <@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:40A6BE68.84A460A@nospam.com...
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below 50%
at any time preceding the election.
Clinton did.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
.
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| User: "Tempest" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 09:49:44 PM |
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none of the above wrote:
"Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn" <@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:40A6BE68.84A460A@nospam.com...
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below 50%
at any time preceding the election.
Clinton did.
Clinton's approval rating was right around 50% between May 1996 and
November 1996.
It was at 55% in November just before the election.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
.
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| User: "none of the above" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
16 May 2004 07:17:16 AM |
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"Tempest" <tempest@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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none of the above wrote:
"Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn" <@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:40A6BE68.84A460A@nospam.com...
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below
50%
at any time preceding the election.
Clinton did.
Clinton's approval rating was right around 50% between May 1996 and
November 1996.
At this time in 1996 Clinton was polling 48%. Source CNN. The post said
"at any time preceding the election." Certainly in 1994 Clinton's poll
numbers were below 50%. IT must be remembered that Clinton never got over
50% of the popular vote in either election. We are in a time of minority
elected presidents, and I suspect that this year will be no different.
It was at 55% in November just before the election.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
.
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| User: "cep" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 09:31:12 PM |
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Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn wrote:
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below 50%
at any time preceding the election.
I agree with what you said. But that won't be the case this time.
There's never been a situation like this one, so don't look to history
for your predictions.
1. This is a President that most Americans think has done a good job
on 9-11.
2. This a President that most Americans think is honest and holds on
to his convictions, maybe at the expense of an election.
3. This is a President who has someone running against him that most
people don't trust to tell the truth or stick to his convictions.
4. John Kerry has not convinced the American voter that he has a plan
to fix America. In fact, his plan sounds like Bush's plan.
5. John Kerry has not recreated a "warm and fuzzy" feeling with
American voters, much less most democrats.
6. By the time the elections roll around, Iraq will have been
stabilized, compared to today, jobs will continue to increase and the
economy will look very good.
7. When most Americans go into the polls, they will say, I know what
I have, even though it might not be the best, but I don't know what
I'm getting with Kerry; huh, think I'll stick with Bush.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
.
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| User: "Jamo" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
16 May 2004 12:05:30 AM |
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"cep" <1cthong@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:40A6D25A.9050406@mindspring.com...
Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn wrote:
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below
50%
at any time preceding the election.
I agree with what you said. But that won't be the case this time.
There's never been a situation like this one, so don't look to history
for your predictions.
1. This is a President that most Americans think has done a good job
on 9-11.
2. This a President that most Americans think is honest and holds on
to his convictions, maybe at the expense of an election.
3. This is a President who has someone running against him that most
people don't trust to tell the truth or stick to his convictions.
4. John Kerry has not convinced the American voter that he has a plan
to fix America. In fact, his plan sounds like Bush's plan.
5. John Kerry has not recreated a "warm and fuzzy" feeling with
American voters, much less most democrats.
6. By the time the elections roll around, Iraq will have been
stabilized, compared to today, jobs will continue to increase and the
economy will look very good.
7. When most Americans go into the polls, they will say, I know what
I have, even though it might not be the best, but I don't know what
I'm getting with Kerry; huh, think I'll stick with Bush.
You've made some good points here...I only question whether the Iraqi
situation will be stabilized by Nov.; we'll just have to wait and see how
the handover goes.
I think your comment about "I know what I have" vs. "I don't know what I'm
getting" is certainly the case, and that's how Bush will be re-elected.
Kerry needs to make some strong statements and justify faith in his
reliability--otherwise he's toast.
I don't like Bush. I won't vote for him. I don't like Kerry either. I won't
vote for him...well, maybe if he puts Edwards on the ticket I will.
Cheers,
Morgs
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
.
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| User: "Tempest" |
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| Title: Re: CNN/TIME magazine poll: John Kerry 51% - Bush 46% |
15 May 2004 09:23:38 PM |
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Dra Bycceuh Ykyehcd dra Fyn wrote:
Actually, that's not true. With an incumbent running, the election is
always a referendum on that incumbent. In several presidential races
where the candidates were neck and neck and seesawed closely back and
forth, the elections ended in blow-outs. There has never been a close
presidential election result with an incumbent president in the running.
No president since WWII won re-election with an approval rating below 50%
at any time preceding the election.
Incumbent Races: Closer Than They Appear
by Nick Panagakis
http://www.socastee.com/all_politics/incumbent_races.htm
(Nick Panagakis, a member of the National Council on Public Polls, is
president of Market Shares Corporation, a marketing and public opinion
research firm headquartered in Mt. Prospect, Ill. This article
appeared in the February 27, 1989 edition of The Polling Report.)
How will undecideds vote on election day? Traditionally, there have
been two schools of thought about how undecideds in trial heat
match-ups will divide up at the ballot box. One is that they will
break equally; the other, that they will split in proportion to poll
respondents who stated a candidate preference.
But our analysis of 155 polls reveals that, in races that include an
incumbent, the traditional answers are wrong. Over 80% of the time,
most or all of the undecideds voted for the challenger.
cep wrote:
I think that the most interesting comments I have heard is:
No matter what the approval rating is, it has no bearing on Bush being
elected.
Why, one would ask.
The prediction is that Bush will win, not because Americans don't
approve of his job, but rather because they don't approve of Kerry.
I don't care for some of the things that Bush has done, but I would not
vote for Kerry in a million years.
It's the lesser of two evils.
Bush will win.
--
"The true axis of evil in America is the brilliance of our marketing
combined with the stupidity of our people."
- Bill Maher
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