In article <f58r01$vji$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

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In article <f5631h$ros$1@news.albasani.net>,
"Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Cranston@NeoConEvilFighter.com> wrote:

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In article <46740656$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, <Bombastic
Bushkin>
wrote:

Not DNA, no. But a crime might have been reasonable.

There was none.

Disclosing the identity of a CIA agent to the press is not a
crime?
BB

Mrs. Wilson's status wasn't protected by any statute.

Judge Reginald Walton and Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, after
reviewing the classified
personnel file of Valerie Plame Wilson, have stated that Mrs.
Wilson
was in fact
covered by the IIPA when Robert Novak printed her name in July
of
2003.

You shouldn't listen to everything disgruntled ex-CIA have to say
about
highly charged political issues in letters published in the Times
or
the
Post or any other frankly Democratic Party Organs.

I said nothing about disgruntled ex-CIA. I said that Walton and
Fitzgerald reviewed the classified personnel file of Plame and
determined that she was, as she claimed, a covert agent.

It's from a published letter making the same claim.

Mrs. Wilson does no fall under the IIPA definitions. Fitzgerald's
statements imply that he believed she did, but he has never
actually
said she did.

Really?

Really.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18927332/site/newsweek/

Fitzgerald Says Plame Was a Covert Agent
Arguing that Libby deserves jail time, Fitzgerald says Plame was a
covert agent.
WEB EXCLUSIVE
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball
Newsweek
Updated: 4:26 p.m. MT May 29, 2007
May 29, 2007 - In new court filings, special counsel Patrick
Fitzgerald has finally resolved one of the most disputed issues at
the
core of the long-running CIA leak controversy: Valerie Plame
Wilson,
he asserts, was a "covert" CIA officer who repeatedly traveled
overseas using a "cover identity" in order to disguise her
relationship with the agency.

Fitzgerald cites Wilson's covert status as part of his
argument-advanced in two strongly worded memos filed in recent
days-that I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, Vice President ***** Cheney's
former chief of staff, should be sentenced to up to three years in
prison.

In the statement, he confirms that Wilson was covert. Being covert,
in
this sense, doesn't trigger IIPA by itself.

Fitzgerald knows this, and he knows that now, unlike before, he is
safe
to say so, since it's completely impossible to prove the contrary.

Nor did he ever state that he was investigating what he believed
to
be a
crime.

Because he wasn't investigating what he believed to be a crime.

Part of any investigation is to determine if a crime has been
committed.

His investigation was almost completely unaccountable. You are
equally
on sure ground criticizing it, or, as you do above, attempting to
justify it.

Starr's investigation at least yielded some convictions for
Whitewater
fraud. But what became of his case was bad precedent. Extremely bad
precedent.

I began to see why there was talk of eliminating special prosecutors
then.

After this "investigation" I'm completely convinced.

For the sake of the nation, the Attorney General can handle these
investigations.

There are no good results from appointing a special prosecutor. It's
a
tool that Washington isn't mature enough to handle safely.

No, it was not a crime, and the leaker had been positively
identified by
Fitzgerald before the "investigation" began.

Irrelevant.

Not really. If there was a crime, and Fitzgerald knew (all along)
it
was
Armitage who'd committed it, then he needs to explain to America
why
he
didn't bring charges against Armitage.

It's really quite simple. Fitzgerald found no evidence that
Armitage
knew of Plame's covert status. Fitzgerald's investigation
subsequently focused on others who also outed her and may have
known
of her covert status.

After Armitage, there was nothing to focus on, silly. A blown cover
is a
blown cover.

In fact, Libby leaked Plame's name to Judith Miller BEFORE Armitage
leaked it to Novak.

Miller went to jail to protect Armitage. Libby and Rove had already
given her permission to reveal them as sources.

Which is as strange as any other part of the case.

According to Fitzgerald, "In fact, Mr. Libby was
the first official known to have told a reporter when he talked to
Judith Miller in June of 2003 about Valerie Wilson." (Press
conference, 10/28/2005)

"Mr. Fitzgerald has nonetheless also tried to spin an aura that Mr.
Libby was responsible for outing Ms. Plame. In his press conference
on

October 28, 2005, the prosecutor asserted that "In fact, Mr. Libby
was
the first official known to have told a reporter when he talked to
[former New York Times reporter] Judith Miller in June of 2003 about
Valerie Wilson." But we have since learned that Mr. Armitage also
told
Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward about Ms. Plame--a fact that
Mr.
Fitzgerald never uncovered until Mr. Woodward came forward after he
heard Mr. Fitzgerald make that false public assertion.

"Strangely, Mr. Armitage never seems to have told Mr. Fitzgerald
that
he'd talked to Mr. Woodward. And Mr. Fitzgerald never seems to have
asked to see Mr. Armitage's appointment calendar, which would have
showed his meeting with Mr. Novak. It's all enough to make us wonder
if
Mr. Fitzgerald didn't buy into the liberal "conspiracy" theory of
this
case from the start and target the White House while giving Mr.
Armitage
a pass."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008872

It will go down in the annals of American history as one of the
strangest investigations ever conducted.

--
NeoLibertarian

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are,
'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
---Ronald Reagan

In the statement, he confirms that Wilson was covert. Being covert, in
this sense, doesn't trigger IIPA by itself.