Politics > Politics-USA > do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century?
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04 Nov 2004 08:02:27 PM |
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do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century? |
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
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04 Nov 2004 09:11:59 PM |
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Ronald Reagan without a doubt. No demmykkkrat will ever be a greatest
president of any century.
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08 Nov 2004 10:01:06 AM |
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"Harry Shipman Truman" hands down. Most likely the greatest president in
history, so far.
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms
to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and
winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
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05 Nov 2004 06:47:55 AM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com:
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the
last century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new
jobs, kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took
4 terms to do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the
Depression and winning WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of
the century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
You're experiencing his attack on America at this moment.
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08 Nov 2004 04:16:02 PM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
CLINTON!
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| User: "Hank Ball" |
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05 Nov 2004 04:35:51 PM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
ROFL . . . you poor moron from Arizona. Bill Clinton gave us
Corporate scandal and misreporting of income that ended in huge
corporations going bankrupt and the loss of hundreds of thousands of
Americans' jobs. Bill Clinton gave us the dotcom bubble that popped,
ending in the loss of money and jobs.
Bill Clinton was an illusion.
hball
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| User: "ausstu" |
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05 Nov 2004 05:35:38 PM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
Forbes magazine rated Clinton as having the best economic performance
over the last 10 presidents. Based on the statistic Bush would be the
worst economic manager. The world was relatively peaceful under
Clinton. He was one of America's greatest presidents.
Once the right wing religious extremist who now run the country are
discredited after another 4 years, I believe Clinton will be seen for
what he was, one of the best presidents ever.
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
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| User: "Hank Ball" |
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08 Nov 2004 04:05:59 PM |
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(ausstu) wrote in message news:<85667340.0411051535.e059687@posting.google.com>...
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
Forbes magazine rated Clinton as having the best economic performance
over the last 10 presidents. Based on the statistic Bush would be the
worst economic manager. The world was relatively peaceful under
Clinton. He was one of America's greatest presidents.
How can you or anybody else even begin to rate Clinton as having the
best economic performance? All that prosperity was lies and that was
proven with all the corporations went belly up from misreporting their
earnings during Clinton's Presidency.
hball
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| User: "Art" |
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08 Nov 2004 03:40:59 PM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
Impeached Presidents don't usually make the final cut, sweety.
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses
Largest tax increase in United States history--mostly because he knew
this had to come before he nationalized [stole] America's Health Care
Systems-which we didn't allow him to do.
record new jobs
Look, buddy, the Exceutive branch has about 1.6 million employees: who
ELSE do you think he hired?
kept us out of war,
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
No, really. Stop it please, my sides hurt.
Kosovo. Bosnia. Mogadishu. So-called "al-Qaeda" knocked on his door
repeatedly: 1993 WTC bombing, the Cole, the embassy bombings in Kenya
and Tanzania.
All under his watch, and all while the PRC was buying its way into
Iraq.
It's becomming apparent that you've never cracked a history book or
read a newspaper in your life. Which is okay. You just need to realize
it's rude to interrupt Mom and Dad when they're having a conversation.
and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
I'm done laughing; maybe I'll cry now.
FDR kept us from climbing out of the Depression, silly. WWII didn't
get us out of the Depression either--though I realize they told that
to you in a public school somewhere. We didn't return to
pre-Depression economic levels until Truman began to rescind FDR's
fascist economic policies after the war.
FDR didn't win WWII by himself, either. He had a united country behind
him, and he didn't have Peter Arnett at Ste. Mere-Englise with a
microphone and a sat hook up telling us about all the wedding parties
we'd just bombed.
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Worst President of the 20th Century would have to be Carter. Next
worst: Johnson. Then FDR. Then Hoover.
Bush ain't even in the same league.
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Art
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| User: "miker" |
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09 Nov 2004 10:30:49 AM |
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Art <arty_faque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You're my new hero, man. Great post. People need to read history, BETWEEN
the lines.
miker
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| User: "BeeSki" |
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24 Nov 2004 09:06:46 AM |
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"miker" <miker4butnospamok@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:Zg6kd.9609$O11.7654@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Art <arty_faque@yahoo.com> wrote in message
You're my new hero, man. Great post. People need to read history, BETWEEN
the lines.
miker
New hero? Good lord...
You need to be able to think/read for youself-- not look to others to
articulate their skewed notion of history. Else you end up at the head of
the Kool-aid line-- if you know what I mean.
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| User: "howldog" |
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09 Nov 2004 10:44:17 AM |
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On 8 Nov 2004 13:40:59 -0800, (Art) wrote:
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
Impeached Presidents don't usually make the final cut, sweety.
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses
Largest tax increase in United States history--mostly because he knew
this had to come before he nationalized [stole] America's Health Care
Systems-which we didn't allow him to do.
record new jobs
Look, buddy, the Exceutive branch has about 1.6 million employees: who
ELSE do you think he hired?
kept us out of war,
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
No, really. Stop it please, my sides hurt.
Kosovo. Bosnia. Mogadishu. So-called "al-Qaeda" knocked on his door
repeatedly: 1993 WTC bombing, the Cole, the embassy bombings in Kenya
and Tanzania.
All under his watch, and all while the PRC was buying its way into
Iraq.
It's becomming apparent that you've never cracked a history book or
read a newspaper in your life. Which is okay. You just need to realize
it's rude to interrupt Mom and Dad when they're having a conversation.
and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
I'm done laughing; maybe I'll cry now.
FDR kept us from climbing out of the Depression, silly. WWII didn't
get us out of the Depression either--though I realize they told that
to you in a public school somewhere. We didn't return to
pre-Depression economic levels until Truman began to rescind FDR's
fascist economic policies after the war.
FDR didn't win WWII by himself, either. He had a united country behind
him, and he didn't have Peter Arnett at Ste. Mere-Englise with a
microphone and a sat hook up telling us about all the wedding parties
we'd just bombed.
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Worst President of the 20th Century would have to be Carter. Next
worst: Johnson. Then FDR. Then Hoover.
Bush ain't even in the same league.
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who are you really? Art Linkletter? Henry Kissinger? Sam Donaldson?
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09 Nov 2004 12:52:53 PM |
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howldog wrote:
On 8 Nov 2004 13:40:59 -0800, (Art) wrote:
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
Impeached Presidents don't usually make the final cut, sweety.
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses
Largest tax increase in United States history--mostly because he knew
this had to come before he nationalized [stole] America's Health Care
Systems-which we didn't allow him to do.
record new jobs
Look, buddy, the Exceutive branch has about 1.6 million employees: who
ELSE do you think he hired?
kept us out of war,
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
No, really. Stop it please, my sides hurt.
Kosovo. Bosnia. Mogadishu. So-called "al-Qaeda" knocked on his door
repeatedly: 1993 WTC bombing, the Cole, the embassy bombings in Kenya
and Tanzania.
All under his watch, and all while the PRC was buying its way into
Iraq.
It's becomming apparent that you've never cracked a history book or
read a newspaper in your life. Which is okay. You just need to realize
it's rude to interrupt Mom and Dad when they're having a conversation.
and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
I'm done laughing; maybe I'll cry now.
FDR kept us from climbing out of the Depression, silly. WWII didn't
get us out of the Depression either--though I realize they told that
to you in a public school somewhere. We didn't return to
pre-Depression economic levels until Truman began to rescind FDR's
fascist economic policies after the war.
FDR didn't win WWII by himself, either. He had a united country behind
him, and he didn't have Peter Arnett at Ste. Mere-Englise with a
microphone and a sat hook up telling us about all the wedding parties
we'd just bombed.
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Worst President of the 20th Century would have to be Carter. Next
worst: Johnson. Then FDR. Then Hoover.
Bush ain't even in the same league.
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who are you really? Art Linkletter? Henry Kissinger? Sam Donaldson?
Who are /you/, really? Joe Piscopo? Frankenfurter? Howldog Bluesman, Bleeding Gums Murphy?
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Art
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09 Nov 2004 02:56:38 PM |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:52:53 -0600, Art <> wrote:
howldog wrote:
On 8 Nov 2004 13:40:59 -0800, (Art) wrote:
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
Impeached Presidents don't usually make the final cut, sweety.
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses
Largest tax increase in United States history--mostly because he knew
this had to come before he nationalized [stole] America's Health Care
Systems-which we didn't allow him to do.
record new jobs
Look, buddy, the Exceutive branch has about 1.6 million employees: who
ELSE do you think he hired?
kept us out of war,
Ahahahahaha-ho-ho-hoo-heee *cough* *cough*
No, really. Stop it please, my sides hurt.
Kosovo. Bosnia. Mogadishu. So-called "al-Qaeda" knocked on his door
repeatedly: 1993 WTC bombing, the Cole, the embassy bombings in Kenya
and Tanzania.
All under his watch, and all while the PRC was buying its way into
Iraq.
It's becomming apparent that you've never cracked a history book or
read a newspaper in your life. Which is okay. You just need to realize
it's rude to interrupt Mom and Dad when they're having a conversation.
and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
I'm done laughing; maybe I'll cry now.
FDR kept us from climbing out of the Depression, silly. WWII didn't
get us out of the Depression either--though I realize they told that
to you in a public school somewhere. We didn't return to
pre-Depression economic levels until Truman began to rescind FDR's
fascist economic policies after the war.
FDR didn't win WWII by himself, either. He had a united country behind
him, and he didn't have Peter Arnett at Ste. Mere-Englise with a
microphone and a sat hook up telling us about all the wedding parties
we'd just bombed.
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Worst President of the 20th Century would have to be Carter. Next
worst: Johnson. Then FDR. Then Hoover.
Bush ain't even in the same league.
---
who are you really? Art Linkletter? Henry Kissinger? Sam Donaldson?
Who are /you/, really? Joe Piscopo? Frankenfurter? Howldog Bluesman, Bleeding Gums Murphy?
---
suddenly i'm not sure.
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09 Nov 2004 11:23:57 AM |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:44:17 -0500, howldog <lifeisgood@hotmail.com>
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who are you really? Art Linkletter? Henry Kissinger? Sam Donaldson?
LOL!
Atlas
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27 Nov 2004 03:45:05 PM |
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"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Neither. My vote would go to Teddy Roosevelt.
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
I would probably vote for Hoover. George W. Bush might make second worst
for me, I'd have to think about it.
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| User: "cLIeNUX user" |
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05 Nov 2004 05:14:57 AM |
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do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Carter will be on currency before Clinton. TR was a good one too.
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| User: "miker" |
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05 Nov 2004 08:42:49 AM |
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do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
Obvious answer is "No".
My choice: The other Roosevelt. Now there was a Pres! While TR was
campaigning he was shot in the chest and still took the podium and gave his
speech, blasting the assassin for being a coward and "shooting him in the
dark", and apologised that he had to cut the speech short (not by much) to
go to the hospital.
miker
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21 Dec 2004 03:31:20 PM |
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Clinton and FDR were mass murdering psychopaths. I'll take coolidge as
the best since he didn't do anything.
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21 Dec 2004 09:33:52 PM |
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Retard; that's *five* times you posted your stupidity. Too stupid to
figure out how a mouse button works? Maybe if you're nice, mommy will
run out between tricks and pick up a "My First Computer" for your
Chirstmas.
As for Coolidge, if you value people based on what they do (or do not
do), then you must (falsely) put yourself at the top of the list, since
you do nothing but drain the welfare system.
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21 Dec 2004 03:33:31 PM |
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Clinton and FDR were mass murdering psychopaths. I'll take coolidge as
the best since he didn't do anything.
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21 Dec 2004 03:39:04 PM |
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Clinton and FDR were mass murdering psychopaths. I'll take coolidge as
the best since he didn't do anything.
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21 Dec 2004 03:39:05 PM |
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Clinton and FDR were mass murdering psychopaths. I'll take coolidge as
the best since he didn't do anything.
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21 Dec 2004 03:39:21 PM |
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Clinton and FDR were mass murdering psychopaths. I'll take coolidge as
the best since he didn't do anything.
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08 Nov 2004 04:13:53 PM |
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Here is my order for this century:
1) Teddy Roosevelt
2) Harry Truman
3) Woodrow Wilson
4) FDR
5) Clinton
6) Reagan
7) LBJ
8) Kennedy
9) Eisenhower
And as for the rest, they sucked...with Carter being second to last
and Nixon last.
Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....regardless if he was smart or
established relations with China
Teddy, in my opinion, was the 2nd best after Washington
Truman had to make alot of tough decisions, and made alot of correct
choices
Wilson, while he failed to get the USA to join the League of Nations,
was a visionary, and created the federal Reserve. He realized that
the USA could no longer hide...that the US was now the leader of the
free world.
FDR did more good than bad, but was overrated.
The jury is still out on clinton, but his economic policies really
improved the international community more than domestic policies. He
opened fluctuating currencies in many marktets.
Reagan did help to end communism along with Gorby. Along with
Clinton, I cannot think of a single great piece of legislation that I
consider awesome to this day that he thought of.
LBJ would be #3 except for the Vietnam war. His domestic policies
were masterful....Civil Rights for Blacks allowded them to vote
equally....which had truly been denied them since the Civil War.
"arizona cowboy" <cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<6oednakQ4NeuQhfcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>...
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
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08 Nov 2004 04:19:20 PM |
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"fred michaels" <jojopuppyfish@graffiti.net> wrote in message
news:c4193255.0411081413.29121a07@posting.google.com...
Here is my order for this century:
1) Teddy Roosevelt
2) Harry Truman
3) Woodrow Wilson
4) FDR
5) Clinton
6) Reagan
7) LBJ
8) Kennedy
9) Eisenhower
And as for the rest, they sucked...with Carter being second to last
and Nixon last.
Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....regardless if he was smart or
established relations with China
But then why isn't Clinton last also? He undermined the Constitution too,
but he wasn't nearly as intelligent as Nixon, plus he was useless in terms
of establishing relations with China. All Clinton did was give them our
military secrets, not increase our trade with them.
So your list should read:
9) Nixon
10) Clinton
And everybody else below # 4 move up a notch.
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08 Nov 2004 05:58:55 PM |
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"Big Bush Mandate" <Dems@OutInTheCold.com> wrote in message
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"fred michaels" <jojopuppyfish@graffiti.net> wrote in message
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Here is my order for this century:
1) Teddy Roosevelt
2) Harry Truman
3) Woodrow Wilson
4) FDR
5) Clinton
6) Reagan
7) LBJ
8) Kennedy
9) Eisenhower
And as for the rest, they sucked...with Carter being second to last
and Nixon last.
Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....regardless if he was smart or
established relations with China
But then why isn't Clinton last also? He undermined the Constitution
too, but he wasn't nearly as intelligent as Nixon, plus he was useless in
terms of establishing relations with China. All Clinton did was give them
our military secrets, not increase our trade with them.
Nixon's intelligence was wasted because of his weak psychological concept
and image. He was paranoid to the max, and had on mechanistic relationships
with people. He did much better with his dog.
So your list should read:
9) Nixon
10) Clinton
And everybody else below # 4 move up a notch.
Absolutely not!! If you can't realize the importance of what Clinton did,
you must be in denial. Carter was very intelligent, but he was limited in
his people skills. Norma
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| User: "fred michaels" |
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| Title: Re: do you think neither Bill Clinton or FDR were the greatest President of the last century? |
09 Nov 2004 12:33:20 AM |
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You may have a point about Clinton....did he failed to uphold the
constitution?
The quesiton to ask is: Was Clinton's sexual act with an intern
LEGALLY illegal?
I would say no. Did he compromise the office? Quite possibly yes.
To be fair, Clinton warned 1 1/2 years before the end of his
presidency that with 100% certanty there would be a terrorist attack
against us.
Whether Clinton is a quality president or not is still too early to
judge. Had he established peace between Israel and Arafat, he would
get a nudge higher.
NAFTA and The Telecommuncation ACT were big bills for clinton. NAFTA
would pan out better if Mexico got its act together (according to
Business week), and 8 years later The Telecom Act is starting to take
hold. What else about Clinton was passed that was significant?
So yes, maybe Clinton should be lower. Personally, I did well during
the time Clinton was in office, so maybe I am biased. I think another
20 years will make it easier to judge Clinton's policies.
"Big Bush Mandate" <Dems@OutInTheCold.com> wrote in message news:<IhSjd.21377$KJ6.13968@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
"fred michaels" <jojopuppyfish@graffiti.net> wrote in message
news:c4193255.0411081413.29121a07@posting.google.com...
Here is my order for this century:
1) Teddy Roosevelt
2) Harry Truman
3) Woodrow Wilson
4) FDR
5) Clinton
6) Reagan
7) LBJ
8) Kennedy
9) Eisenhower
And as for the rest, they sucked...with Carter being second to last
and Nixon last.
Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....regardless if he was smart or
established relations with China
But then why isn't Clinton last also? He undermined the Constitution too,
but he wasn't nearly as intelligent as Nixon, plus he was useless in terms
of establishing relations with China. All Clinton did was give them our
military secrets, not increase our trade with them.
So your list should read:
9) Nixon
10) Clinton
And everybody else below # 4 move up a notch.
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| User: "miker" |
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| Title: Re: do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century? |
09 Nov 2004 10:36:21 AM |
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Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....
Wilson, created the federal Reserve.
Do you realize that our Constitution calls for money to be ONLY gold or
silver? Not vapor-backed paper? And the primary reason the Federal Reserve
exists is to steal peoples savings by debasing non-backed paper currency? By
your own rules Wilson is out, as is FDR and every President since Nixon.
(FDR devalued the currency, Nixon closed the gold window totally, and every
President since has used inflation and devaluation to spend more than we
have.)
miker
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| User: "bill" |
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| Title: Re: do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century? |
09 Nov 2004 01:16:57 PM |
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In article <9m6kd.9613$O11.8611@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"miker" <miker4butnospamok@mindspring.com> wrote:
Why is Nixon last? Because when you undermine the constitution, you
should be considered the worst....
Wilson, created the federal Reserve.
Do you realize that our Constitution calls for money to be ONLY gold or
silver? Not vapor-backed paper? And the primary reason the Federal Reserve
exists is to steal peoples savings by debasing non-backed paper currency? By
your own rules Wilson is out, as is FDR and every President since Nixon.
(FDR devalued the currency, Nixon closed the gold window totally, and every
President since has used inflation and devaluation to spend more than we
have.)
miker
Do you know why we got off the gold standard?
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| User: "miker" |
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| Title: Re: do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century? |
09 Nov 2004 02:53:56 PM |
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Do you know why we got off the gold standard?
So they could continue inflating the currency without having the
inconvenience of promising anything to back it up. And to give the US the
catbird seat after Bretton Woods, allowing it to abuse its reserve currency
position.
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| User: "jtees4" |
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| Title: Re: do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last century? |
05 Nov 2004 05:02:12 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 21:02:27 -0500, "arizona cowboy"
<cacheoverflow@yahoo.com> wrote:
do you think Bill Clinton or FDR was the greatest President of the last
century?
I am thinking Clinton, since he gave us record surpluses, record new jobs,
kept us out of war, and did it in only 2 terms, whereas FDR took 4 terms to
do everything he accomplished (getting us out of the Depression and winning
WWII)
of course the current occupant would easily make worst president of the
century, but for 2nd worse, perhaps Reagan or Hoover?
Reagan
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