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05 Sep 2005 06:24:53 AM |
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Doesn't the FEMA Director deserve blame??? |
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
troy
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05 Sep 2005 01:22:27 PM |
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<electrictroy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
troy
But Bush said Brownie was doing a helluva job. Brown will probably get a
promotion and a bigger salary.
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05 Sep 2005 05:20:36 PM |
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FDR wrote:
<electrictroy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125919493.870016.222260@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
troy
But Bush said Brownie was doing a helluva job. Brown will probably get a
promotion and a bigger salary.
And more Jeff Gannon visits.
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05 Sep 2005 07:27:18 AM |
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<electrictroy@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
troy
Yes --- But who picked him? Both Brown & Chertoff should be fired yesterday.
Bush the next day.
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05 Sep 2005 06:52:35 AM |
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wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
There's one sound bite where Bush is standing around with a bunch of
yahoos and he says, "Brownie, you're doin' a hell of a job." I just
want all of them to go away, so people don't have to die like dogs in
the future.
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07 Sep 2005 12:21:25 AM |
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trotsky wrote:
electrictroy@gmail.com wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
There's one sound bite where Bush is standing around with a bunch of
yahoos and he says, "Brownie, you're doin' a hell of a job." I just
want all of them to go away, so people don't have to die like dogs in
the future.
Yes, what was Bush thinking, activating the hurricane-generator he
keeps in his office?
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| User: "trotsky" |
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07 Sep 2005 07:01:43 AM |
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wrote:
trotsky wrote:
electrictroy@gmail.com wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
There's one sound bite where Bush is standing around with a bunch of
yahoos and he says, "Brownie, you're doin' a hell of a job." I just
want all of them to go away, so people don't have to die like dogs in
the future.
Yes, what was Bush thinking, activating the hurricane-generator he
keeps in his office?
Do you mean his "home office" at his favorite vacation spot, Crawford?
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05 Sep 2005 03:32:20 PM |
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wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
There's plenty of blame to go around.
A lot of the trouble with FEMA is due to the fact that after 9-11, the
White House and Congress and the national news media started caring more
about terrorism than natural disaster. So they created the Department
of Homeland Security and downgraded FEMA from a Cabinet department into
just a department within the D.H.S. And once it was part of the D.H.S.,
the part of its mission dealing with natural disasters started to fall
by the wayside.
Bush appointed a hack to run FEMA because nobody cared about it anymore.
Notice how much more attention was paid to Bush's nominees to head
D.H.S. than to head FEMA.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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| User: "Ted Hart" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:46:56 AM |
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No, absolutely not, what are you thinking! Why should he be blamed for
anything?
But yes, Michael Brown is completely unqualified for his position. He
is a huge failure and an incompetent turd. He is definitely in the
running for a Freedom medal or something really really nice.
electrictroy@gmail.com wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
troy
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| User: "shawn" |
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05 Sep 2005 09:48:59 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:46:56 GMT, Ted Hart <thart@vicon.net> wrote:
No, absolutely not, what are you thinking! Why should he be blamed for
anything?
But yes, Michael Brown is completely unqualified for his position. He
is a huge failure and an incompetent turd. He is definitely in the
running for a Freedom medal or something really really nice.
He may be unqualified for the job, but what about the people below
him. I can't believe that all of the qualified people quit the agency
so they should know what is needed to be done, and have been prepared
to move quickly.
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05 Sep 2005 11:53:09 AM |
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shawn wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:46:56 GMT, Ted Hart <thart@vicon.net> wrote:
No, absolutely not, what are you thinking! Why should he be blamed for
anything?
But yes, Michael Brown is completely unqualified for his position. He
is a huge failure and an incompetent turd. He is definitely in the
running for a Freedom medal or something really really nice.
He may be unqualified for the job, but what about the people below
him. I can't believe that all of the qualified people quit the agency
so they should know what is needed to be done, and have been prepared
to move quickly.
I figure there was a PDB at some point: "Katrina is now a Cat. 5 and
determined to flood NOLA and cause destruction and death."
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05 Sep 2005 10:56:42 AM |
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shawn wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:46:56 GMT, Ted Hart <thart@vicon.net> wrote:
No, absolutely not, what are you thinking! Why should he be blamed for
anything?
But yes, Michael Brown is completely unqualified for his position. He
is a huge failure and an incompetent turd. He is definitely in the
running for a Freedom medal or something really really nice.
He may be unqualified for the job, but what about the people below
him. I can't believe that all of the qualified people quit the agency
so they should know what is needed to be done, and have been prepared
to move quickly.
I can believe it. Picture this: you've spent your life working in
disaster preparedness & response. Bush fires your popular and
well-liked boss. Bush appoints a crony who has no history of disaster
p&r. This boob starts meddling in your work, telling you what to do,
when he clearly has no idea what he's talking about. What do you do? If
you're like most people, you quit and go work someplace else. Then
boob-in-charge is free to hire yes-men who will reassure him he knows
what's he's doing, rather than challenge his authority.
That is if he didn't fire you on his first day to make room for HIS
cronies.
Anyone who's left over is so far down they line that no matter what
they say, like, "Er, shouldn't we have the National Guard ready to go
on Sunday night?" They won't be heard or listened to.
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05 Sep 2005 01:02:22 PM |
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On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
Sure. Bush would only deserve some of the blame if in fact he was the
one who made such a bad choice when choosing who put in charge of
FEMA. By the way...who DID pick the FEMA director?
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| User: "Kel" |
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06 Sep 2005 02:17:07 AM |
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"David Johnston" <rgorman@block.net> wrote in message
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On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
Sure. Bush would only deserve some of the blame if in fact he was the
one who made such a bad choice when choosing who put in charge of
FEMA. By the way...who DID pick the FEMA director?
Amen. There's no way they can avoid the fact that Bush appointed one of his
chums who had no experience at all of dealing with emergency situations.
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| User: "GW Chimpzilla" |
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05 Sep 2005 01:57:10 PM |
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David Johnston wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
Sure. Bush would only deserve some of the blame if in fact he was the
one who made such a bad choice when choosing who put in charge of
FEMA. By the way...who DID pick the FEMA director?
And just who is FEMAs boss's boss? What is the meaning of 'executive branch'? So
many questions...
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05 Sep 2005 06:29:26 AM |
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On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
Bush totally failed to do his job too.
Why is tit that no matter how many times that incompetent boob screws
up , his supporters want to blame everyone but him?
troy
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"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I
mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?"
-Barbra Bush
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| User: "Matti Partonen" |
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05 Sep 2005 06:53:45 AM |
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"Rob Olsen" <Rob@burningbush.org> wrote in message
news:euaoh1lg7411snqosoa12j7n90tfug8bk8@4ax.com...
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
In particular for this FEMA failure, it seems. From Paul Krugman's column in
NYT:
"... the undermining of FEMA began as soon as President Bush took office.
Instead of choosing a professional with expertise in responses to disaster
to head the agency, Mr. Bush appointed Joseph Allbaugh, a close political
confidant. Mr. Allbaugh quickly began trying to scale back some of FEMA's
preparedness programs.
"You might have expected the administration to reconsider its hostility to
emergency preparedness after 9/11 - after all, emergency management is as
important in the aftermath of a terrorist attack as it is following a
natural disaster. As many people have noticed, the failed response to
Katrina shows that we are less ready to cope with a terrorist attack today
than we were four years ago.
"But the downgrading of FEMA continued, with the appointment of Michael
Brown as Mr. Allbaugh's successor.
"Mr. Brown had no obvious qualifications, other than having been Mr.
Allbaugh's college roommate. But Mr. Brown was made deputy director of FEMA;
The Boston Herald reports that he was forced out of his previous job,
overseeing horse shows. And when Mr. Allbaugh left, Mr. Brown became the
agency's director. The raw cronyism of that appointment showed the contempt
the administration felt for the agency; one can only imagine the effects on
staff morale."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/opinion/05krugman.html
Matti P.
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05 Sep 2005 10:08:32 AM |
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in article dlWSe.7921$Nb2.137650@news1.nokia.com, Matti Partonen at
matti_dot_partonen@nokia_dot.com wrote on 9/5/05 4:53 AM:
In particular for this FEMA failure, it seems. From Paul Krugman's column in
NYT:
oh, good grief, that lying little jackass?
Like he'd print the truth if he fell across it by accident.
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You Can't Stop the Signal
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| User: "Matti Partonen" |
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06 Sep 2005 12:49:25 AM |
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"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BF41AD80.4F330%ANIM8Rfsk@cox.net...
in article dlWSe.7921$Nb2.137650@news1.nokia.com, Matti Partonen at
matti_dot_partonen@nokia_dot.com wrote on 9/5/05 4:53 AM:
In particular for this FEMA failure, it seems. From Paul Krugman's
column in
NYT:
oh, good grief, that lying little jackass?
Like he'd print the truth if he fell across it by accident.
Please point out one error or untruth in what he says.
Matti P.
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| User: "Defendario" |
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05 Sep 2005 10:51:08 AM |
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
in article dlWSe.7921$Nb2.137650@news1.nokia.com, Matti Partonen at
matti_dot_partonen@nokia_dot.com wrote on 9/5/05 4:53 AM:
In particular for this FEMA failure, it seems. From Paul Krugman's column in
NYT:
oh, good grief, that lying little jackass?
Wow! What an amazing slam-dunk rebuttal of the article, filled with
facts and backed up by irrefutable citations.
Like he'd print the truth if he fell across it by accident.
Au contraire, 'Puggy boi. He did print truth, which prompted your
little kookfart ad hom slander.
You are dissmissed.
FOAD
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05 Sep 2005 12:31:40 PM |
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in article 3o37uqF3siifU2@individual.net, Defendario at
Defendario@netscape.com wrote on 9/5/05 8:51 AM:
In particular for this FEMA failure, it seems. From Paul Krugman's column in
NYT:
oh, good grief, that lying little jackass?
Wow! What an amazing slam-dunk rebuttal of the article
Thank you. That's all Krugman deserves.
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You Can't Stop the Signal
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05 Sep 2005 01:44:49 PM |
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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
Nothing of interest, as usual.
*PLONK*
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05 Sep 2005 05:14:38 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
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| User: "trotsky" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:13:00 PM |
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Rich wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
Rich, you *really* need to specify who you're calling a moron when Bush
is being discussed.
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06 Sep 2005 07:17:54 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:13:00 GMT, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
Rich, you *really* need to specify who you're calling a moron when Bush
is being discussed.
Yes, Bush is responsible for all that goes on. So why are there
5,000,000 OTHER people working at various levels for the government?
You bottom-rung types wouldn't know the term, but "delegating" is what
you do in a position of power. Obviously, someone screwed up, but it
can hardly all be blamed on Bush, anymore than you can blame the lies
the military told Johnson during the Vietnam war on Johnson.
-Rich
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06 Sep 2005 11:13:45 PM |
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Rich wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:13:00 GMT, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
Rich, you *really* need to specify who you're calling a moron when Bush
is being discussed.
Yes, Bush is responsible for all that goes on. So why are there
5,000,000 OTHER people working at various levels for the government?
You bottom-rung types wouldn't know the term, but "delegating" is what
you do in a position of power. Obviously, someone screwed up, but it
can hardly all be blamed on Bush, anymore than you can blame the lies
the military told Johnson during the Vietnam war on Johnson.
I agree that Bush's main problem is bad intelligence, but not in the
same way you do. He's a fucking idiot and really needs to resign over
this so we don't have to suffer such loss of life in the future. Bush
is killing Americans wholesale at this point.
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06 Sep 2005 11:56:37 PM |
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trotsky wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:13:00 GMT, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
Rich, you *really* need to specify who you're calling a moron when Bush
is being discussed.
Yes, Bush is responsible for all that goes on. So why are there
5,000,000 OTHER people working at various levels for the government?
You bottom-rung types wouldn't know the term, but "delegating" is what
you do in a position of power. Obviously, someone screwed up, but it
can hardly all be blamed on Bush, anymore than you can blame the lies
the military told Johnson during the Vietnam war on Johnson.
I agree that Bush's main problem is bad intelligence, but not in the
same way you do. He's a fucking idiot and really needs to resign over
this so we don't have to suffer such loss of life in the future. Bush
is killing Americans wholesale at this point.
Just because he's that much smarter than you doesn't mean you need to
lie.
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07 Sep 2005 06:46:19 AM |
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wrote:
trotsky wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 00:13:00 GMT, trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
Rich wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:29:26 GMT, Rob Olsen <Rob@burningbush.org>
wrote:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Moron.
Rich, you *really* need to specify who you're calling a moron when Bush
is being discussed.
Yes, Bush is responsible for all that goes on. So why are there
5,000,000 OTHER people working at various levels for the government?
You bottom-rung types wouldn't know the term, but "delegating" is what
you do in a position of power. Obviously, someone screwed up, but it
can hardly all be blamed on Bush, anymore than you can blame the lies
the military told Johnson during the Vietnam war on Johnson.
I agree that Bush's main problem is bad intelligence, but not in the
same way you do. He's a fucking idiot and really needs to resign over
this so we don't have to suffer such loss of life in the future. Bush
is killing Americans wholesale at this point.
Just because he's that much smarter than you doesn't mean you need to
lie.
Are you changing the subject to me again? Ironic, don't you think?
And the answer is no, you can't suck my *****.
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07 Sep 2005 12:17:28 PM |
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Rich wrote:
Yes, Bush is responsible for all that goes on. So why are there
5,000,000 OTHER people working at various levels for the government?
You bottom-rung types wouldn't know the term, but "delegating" is what
you do in a position of power. Obviously, someone screwed up, but it
can hardly all be blamed on Bush
But look who he's delegating to: FEMA's run by personal drivers, event
planners and horse association head. No sense appointing someone who
had professional experience in oh, disaster preparation and response?
Bush is responsible for who he choose to delegate his tasks to. And
apparently it was more important to reward his rich friends than
protect the American people.
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Most of us have heard that Mike Brown, the director of FEMA's, job
qualifications seem to be being
fired as head of a horse association, and being the college room mate
of Bush's campaign manager.
Coming out though are the qualifications of the other staff.
Brown used to be General Counsel at FEMA before getting promoted.
Replacing him was Mark
Wallace. He got his start in "disaster relief" working as Jeb Bush's
personal driver in 1994, before
taking campaign jobs for George W. Bush's presidential campaign.
The Chief of Staff at FEMA is Patrick Rhode. He was an event planner
for the Bush campaign with no
experience in emergency management.
The Deputy Chief of Staff is Scott Morris. He was a press flak for the
Bush Presidential campaign.
Before that he was a marketing director for a computer company.
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05 Sep 2005 11:20:07 AM |
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Rob Olsen wrote:
Why is it that no matter how many times that incompetent boob screws
up , his supporters want to blame everyone but him?
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That's a good question. I was wondering the same thing between
1993-2000 when Clinton apologists kept defending him.
I suppose I should stop acting like a Clintonista.
troy
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05 Sep 2005 10:03:37 AM |
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in article euaoh1lg7411snqosoa12j7n90tfug8bk8@4ax.com, Rob Olsen at
Rob@burningbush.org wrote on 9/5/05 4:29 AM:
On 5 Sep 2005 04:24:53 -0700, wrote:
I see people blaming Bush. But it's not his job. CONGRESS GAVE THE
JOB TO FEMA to organize & help people during emergencies.
Bush is responsible for what happens on his watch.
Shouldn't the blame be properly laid at the FEMA Director's Door, since
he totally failed to do his job?
Bush totally failed to do his job too.
Why is tit that no matter how many times that incompetent boob screws
up , his supporters want to blame everyone but him?
Why is it you're spamming your pathetic lies to groups that don't care about
your ravings, which, come to think of it, is pretty much all groupsl?
troy
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"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I
mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?"
-Barbra Bush
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You Can't Stop the Signal
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