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Topic: Politics > Politics-USA
User: "Ubiquitous"
Date: 30 Aug 2006 06:38:40 AM
Object: Donkey see, monkey do
Robert Goldberg, writing in the Washington Times, surveys the MoveOn.org
Action Forum, an online bulletin board for the Angry Left's premier
grass-roots organization, and finds it rife with anti-Semitism:
"Christian Zionists are ultimately responsible
for whatever Israel does, whether they realize
it or not! Of course they're going to play dumb
and say they're powerless over Israel! We're
supposed to fall for that. The US Gov. could
stomp Israel like a bug, if we had to! That's
where the Christian Zionist "beliefs" mix with
US laws and Foreign Policy. They are favoring
Israel because of their Zionist belief system."
Ninety [percent of readers expressing an opinion]
agreed with this post.
Why the Jews? Or as one post quipped, "Why are
the Jews so Jew-y?" According to the mind of
Moveon, "(I)t's those GREEDY PIGS who own our
mainstream media who are placing RELIGION/POLITICS
(ISRAEL) and CORPORATE GREED above the best
interests of the American people (peace, democracy,
clean air, healthcare, etc.). As we've already
agreed, most of these GREEDY PIGS are Jewish."
Fifty percent approved of this post. . . .
Meanwhile, postings (mostly by Jews) pleading for
moderation are rejected.
"The amount of anti-Semitic trash on this forum
is abhorrent to most Americans. These rants,
castigating Israel and Jews in general, are
taking MoveOn so far from its roots and avowed
purpose." Well said. But only 21 percent of Moveon
members agree.
MoveOn is, by its own description, "a way for busy but concerned citizens
to find their political voice in a system dominated by big money and big
media." The hateful posts Goldberg quotes, that is, don't reflect the
views of MoveOn's leadership but rather are spontaneous expressions by
its members. It's not clear how representative they are, but at the very
least, the Angry Left's grass roots are beset by some aggressive weeds.
--
"The Democrats [...] look like they're turning into a domestic version of
the Palestinians--a group so enraged at their perceived oppressors, and
so caught up in their own victimization, that they behave in ways that
are patently not in their self-interest, and that are almost guaranteed
to perpetuate their suffering," David Brooks, "Weekly Standard"
.

User: "Cultural Supremacist"

Title: Re: Donkey see, monkey do 30 Aug 2006 12:26:48 PM
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:38:40 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net>
wrote:

Robert Goldberg, writing in the Washington Times, surveys the MoveOn.org
Action Forum, an online bulletin board for the Angry Left's premier
grass-roots organization, and finds it rife with anti-Semitism:

"Christian Zionists are ultimately responsible
for whatever Israel does, whether they realize
it or not! Of course they're going to play dumb
and say they're powerless over Israel! We're
supposed to fall for that. The US Gov. could
stomp Israel like a bug, if we had to! That's
where the Christian Zionist "beliefs" mix with
US laws and Foreign Policy. They are favoring
Israel because of their Zionist belief system."
Ninety [percent of readers expressing an opinion]
agreed with this post.

Why the Jews? Or as one post quipped, "Why are
the Jews so Jew-y?" According to the mind of
Moveon, "(I)t's those GREEDY PIGS who own our
mainstream media who are placing RELIGION/POLITICS
(ISRAEL) and CORPORATE GREED above the best
interests of the American people (peace, democracy,
clean air, healthcare, etc.). As we've already
agreed, most of these GREEDY PIGS are Jewish."
Fifty percent approved of this post. . . .

Meanwhile, postings (mostly by Jews) pleading for
moderation are rejected.

"The amount of anti-Semitic trash on this forum
is abhorrent to most Americans. These rants,
castigating Israel and Jews in general, are
taking MoveOn so far from its roots and avowed
purpose." Well said. But only 21 percent of Moveon
members agree.

MoveOn is, by its own description, "a way for busy but concerned citizens
to find their political voice in a system dominated by big money and big
media." The hateful posts Goldberg quotes, that is, don't reflect the
views of MoveOn's leadership but rather are spontaneous expressions by
its members. It's not clear how representative they are, but at the very
least, the Angry Left's grass roots are beset by some aggressive weeds.

"Hateful", "anti-Semitic", "weeds"... blah blah blah. Maybe people on
both sides of the political spectrum are just getting tired of the
Zionist agenda.
CS
.

User: "somefool"

Title: Re: Donkey see, monkey do 03 Sep 2006 01:27:59 PM
Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote in
news:N_6dnUmKn5dd5WjZnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@giganews.com:

Robert Goldberg, writing in the Washington Times, surveys the
MoveOn.org Action Forum, an online bulletin board for the Angry Left's
premier grass-roots organization, and finds it rife with
anti-Semitism:

Well there you go. You answered your own post. The fact that this writer is
using post to an internet blog to paint with broad brush speaks volumes
without further comment...
But for those who may not be aware... ANYONE can log onto those blogs and
post something. It is entirely likely that those extremist posts that were
witnessed on the day of that writing were done by religious zealots out to
make MoveOn appear in a bad light. It would be easy to do.
If the author was truly interested in what MoveOn is about or who they
represent then all he need do is ask some of them or read the Charter. But
he chose to play up the sensational and manufactured rather than the facts.

"The Democrats ..." David Brooks, "Weekly Standard"

Quoting David Brooks is not likely to instill a sense of balance to the
piece.
.


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