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19 Jan 2007 10:55:14 AM |
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Drug Testing for Legislators |
From The (Portland) Oregonian - Friday, January 19, 2007
The question comes up every two years when the Oregon Legislature gets
down to business: "What are those people smokin'?"
Rhetorical? Maybe not. At least one lawmaker wants an answer. And not
just about his House and Senate colleagues.
Rep. Wayne Krieger, R-Gold Beach, has introduced a bill that would
require twice-yearly drug testing for all legislators as well as the
governor, state treasurer, secretary of state and all other statewide
elected officials -- even the chief justice of the state Supreme Court.
Krieger's not messing around. Refusing to take the test would be
regarded as an admission that the official has taken a controlled
substance illegally, under House Bill 2306. Anyone who fails the test
would be given the choice of getting treatment or seeing the results
made public.
Krieger says he decided to go forward with his proposal after listening
to fellow legislators' pious talk about winching down on ethics rules
and banning gifts from lobbyists. What's worse, he asks, accepting an
$11 plaque from an interest group or passing laws while schwacked?
"It seems to me," Krieger says, "that state officials should be more
than willing to stand up and say, 'When I'm doing the people's business,
I'm doing it with a clear mind and not under the influence of any drug.'
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A former state police trooper, Krieger says he doesn't have any insider
information about politicians toking in the restrooms or snorting in
their offices. He says it's more about accountability and fairness.
Thousands of workers in Oregon must submit to drug tests to get hired or
keep their jobs.
Furthermore, he spent quite a bit of time during the last session
working on a set of anti-meth bills. He learned enough about the drug to
know that people you would never suspect can get caught in its addictive
spiral.
"To imply that we're above it all is ridiculous," Krieger says.
In past decades, alcoholism was a big problem among legislators, he
says. More recently -- and more to the point -- former Rep. Kelley
Wirth, D-Corvallis, had to resign in 2005 after she was arrested for
having a small amount of methamphetamine in her car.
Wirth eventually pleaded guilty to drug possession. Krieger says that's
not why he offered his bill but says a willingness by elected officials
to undergo drug testing could help boost their sagging credibility in
the eyes of the public.
So, given all that, what are the chances of the bill going anywhere?
Somewhere between zero and absolute zero.
The bill has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee. Rep. Greg
Macpherson, D-Lake Oswego, takes a dim view of it. The Legislature is
aiming for an end-of-June adjournment and needs to use its time
"pragmatically," he says.
"If there's some evidence that the chief justice or the state treasurer
is taking a controlled substance, then we can look at whether this is a
good solution,"
Macpherson said. "We should focus our time on real issues, not invented
or imagined ones."
Reaction among those to whom the bill would apply was muted. Gov. Ted
Kulongoski's spokeswoman said the governor would be "interested to hear
the floor debate" on the bill. Secretary of State Bill Bradbury said
through a spokeswoman that he has no opinion on the bill but would
comply if it became law.
"I'm OK with being tested," said Susan Castillo, state schools
superintendent. "My question would be, why?"
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22 Jan 2007 11:13:32 AM |
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:54:19 GMT, "Patriot Games"
<Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
because they get themselves so *****-crazed they can't even read.
"Patriot Games" is just another *****-smoking expert chiming in for
attention.
mr_antone
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22 Jan 2007 11:33:49 AM |
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"mr_antone" <mr_antone@> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 16:54:19 GMT, "Patriot Games"
<Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
because they get themselves so *****-crazed they can't even read.
"Patriot Games" is just another *****-smoking expert chiming in for
attention.
Seriously. Did you catch his infatuation with knowing about the
Hillary/Bill strap-on thing?
I mean, guys who sit around and contemplate that stuff absolutely MUST have
something kicking around in their closet, yeah? How else would an otherwise
wholesome mind manage to dwell on such a thing?
-c
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19 Jan 2007 08:33:09 PM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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As voters we should know who the fags and lesbians are.
Why? And after that, do we demand to know who dresses up in leather or
funny outfits? And next do we demand to know who does it in this position
or that?
Oh, hell - you're just a depraved dog sniffing people's crotches and
salivating.
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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22 Jan 2007 10:56:18 AM |
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"Baxter" <lbax02.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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As voters we should know who the fags and lesbians are.
Why? And after that, do we demand to know who dresses up in leather or
funny outfits?
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea to me!
And next do we demand to know who does it in this position or that?
I don't think we need to know that.
However, we might want to know how many times Hillary cinched up that
strap-on and pounded Bill's *****...
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| User: "gatt" |
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22 Jan 2007 11:28:51 AM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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However, we might want to know how many times Hillary cinched up that
strap-on and pounded Bill's *****...
Speak for yourself, freak. The rest of us will have to go watch execution
videos or something to get that imagery out of our head now.
I have absolutely no interest in knowing that sort of thing, but your
interest in it says quite a lot about you.
-c
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22 Jan 2007 04:44:13 PM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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However, we might want to know how many times Hillary cinched up that
strap-on and pounded Bill's *****...
Speak for yourself, freak. The rest of us will have to go watch execution
videos or something to get that imagery out of our head now.
I have absolutely no interest in knowing that sort of thing, but your
interest in it says quite a lot about you.
Here's the difference between us. I think the Bill/Hillary private pics
will be a hoot. You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
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| User: "gatt" |
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22 Jan 2007 05:09:29 PM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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However, we might want to know how many times Hillary cinched up that
strap-on and pounded Bill's *****...
Speak for yourself, freak.
I think the Bill/Hillary private pics will be a hoot.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
No. I don't think about that stuff at all, actually. You're flailing to try
to make people forget you said you wanted to know about Bill, Hillary and
strap-ons.
Deal with your own skeletons, freak. Nobody here cares about your Clinton
sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the ***** Morris
line.
-c
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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23 Jan 2007 01:41:35 PM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
No. I don't think about that stuff at all, actually. You're flailing to
try to make people forget you said you wanted to know about Bill, Hillary
and strap-ons.
Deal with your own skeletons, freak. Nobody here cares about your
Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
I bet ***** pays you to grease his *****.
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| User: "gatt" |
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23 Jan 2007 01:55:27 PM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
I bet ***** pays you to grease his *****.
Really? Okay, fatmouth. How MUCH do you want to bet?
-c
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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24 Jan 2007 10:02:36 AM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
I bet ***** pays you to grease his *****.
Really? Okay, fatmouth. How MUCH do you want to bet?
One hour in The Pit with Hillary and her Strap-on of AssDeath!!
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| User: "Baxter" |
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24 Jan 2007 10:11:45 AM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
I bet ***** pays you to grease his *****.
Really? Okay, fatmouth. How MUCH do you want to bet?
One hour in The Pit with Hillary and her Strap-on of AssDeath!!
Here *****, *****. We're not interested in your sick fantasies of you
getting screwed by Hillary with strap-on *****.
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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24 Jan 2007 01:56:25 PM |
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"Baxter" <lbax02.spamguard@baxcode.com> wrote in message
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote in message
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Really? Okay, fatmouth. How MUCH do you want to bet?
One hour in The Pit with Hillary and her Strap-on of AssDeath!!
Here *****, *****. We're not interested in your sick fantasies of you
getting screwed by Hillary with strap-on *****.
Scared to take the bet....
I knew it.
Hillary would beat you like a 3-legged junkyard broke-***** dog.
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| User: "Lobby Dosser" |
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23 Jan 2007 01:23:34 AM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote:
"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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However, we might want to know how many times Hillary cinched up
that strap-on and pounded Bill's *****...
Speak for yourself, freak.
I think the Bill/Hillary private pics will be a hoot.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
No. I don't think about that stuff at all, actually. You're flailing
to try to make people forget you said you wanted to know about Bill,
Hillary and strap-ons.
Deal with your own skeletons, freak. Nobody here cares about your
Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
-c
Do you guys wear Huge buttons that say 'PUSH ME'?
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| User: "Patriot Games" |
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23 Jan 2007 01:43:56 PM |
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Do you guys wear Huge buttons that say 'PUSH ME'?
***** Morris wears a huge button that says "POKE ME."
Gatt wears a huge button that says "I POKED *****."
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| User: "gatt" |
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23 Jan 2007 01:58:22 PM |
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"Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Do you guys wear Huge buttons that say 'PUSH ME'?
***** Morris wears a huge button that says "POKE ME."
Gatt wears a huge button that says "I POKED *****."
This guy thinks about homosexuality WAAAY too much for his own mental
health. He's talking about wanted to see pictures of Billary strap on sex,
he thinks about gay sex with ***** Morris, he's considering pimping
("brilliant") and he's publically speaking out against homosexuality.
So, which is he? A Republican, a clergyman, or both?
Guys like him are why the Republicans can't win elections anymore.
-c
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23 Jan 2007 10:38:57 AM |
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I think the Bill/Hillary private pics will be a hoot.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
Deal with your own skeletons, freak. Nobody here cares about your
Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in the
***** Morris line.
Do you guys wear Huge buttons that say 'PUSH ME'?
Ask him. He's the one that's been baited into admitting he's interested in
Hillary/Bill strap-on sex. Granted it's a bit like torturing stuffed
animals or frying ants with a magnifying glass...
-c
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23 Jan 2007 07:30:15 PM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote:
"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:WJith.23937$gS1.17474@trndny01...
I think the Bill/Hillary private pics will be a hoot.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
You're waiting in line to tap ***** Morris' *****.
Deal with your own skeletons, freak. Nobody here cares about your
Clinton sex fantasies, and I'm not about to cut in front of you in
the ***** Morris line.
Do you guys wear Huge buttons that say 'PUSH ME'?
Ask him. He's the one that's been baited into admitting he's
interested in Hillary/Bill strap-on sex. Granted it's a bit like
torturing stuffed animals or frying ants with a magnifying glass...
-c
WhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooSh!
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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19 Jan 2007 11:18:39 AM |
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From The (Portland) Oregonian - Friday, January 19, 2007
The question comes up every two years when the Oregon Legislature gets
down to business: "What are those people smokin'?"
Rhetorical? Maybe not. At least one lawmaker wants an answer. And not
just about his House and Senate colleagues.
Rep. Wayne Krieger, R-Gold Beach, has introduced a bill that would
require twice-yearly drug testing for all legislators as well as the
governor, state treasurer, secretary of state and all other statewide
elected officials -- even the chief justice of the state Supreme Court.
An interesting PR gesture, but mostly a waste of time and money.
If there's reason to believe that there's some substance abuse going
on, compile the evidence.
If not, leave them the hell alone.
This bill is political grandstanding at its finest.
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19 Jan 2007 12:38:35 PM |
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Ridiculous. If we don't like the laws they pass while "schwacked" we remove
them. If they're stoned off their asses but pass decent legislation, what's
the problem? It beats an ineffective or corrupt teetotaller.
Drug tests don't test useage. They test intelligence. Any fool who's not
going through a full-blown military or parole/probation "let me watch you
pee" test can pass one.
-c
"Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
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From The (Portland) Oregonian - Friday, January 19, 2007
The question comes up every two years when the Oregon Legislature gets
down to business: "What are those people smokin'?"
Rhetorical? Maybe not. At least one lawmaker wants an answer. And not
just about his House and Senate colleagues.
Rep. Wayne Krieger, R-Gold Beach, has introduced a bill that would
require twice-yearly drug testing for all legislators as well as the
governor, state treasurer, secretary of state and all other statewide
elected officials -- even the chief justice of the state Supreme Court.
Krieger's not messing around. Refusing to take the test would be
regarded as an admission that the official has taken a controlled
substance illegally, under House Bill 2306. Anyone who fails the test
would be given the choice of getting treatment or seeing the results
made public.
Krieger says he decided to go forward with his proposal after listening
to fellow legislators' pious talk about winching down on ethics rules
and banning gifts from lobbyists. What's worse, he asks, accepting an
$11 plaque from an interest group or passing laws while schwacked?
"It seems to me," Krieger says, "that state officials should be more
than willing to stand up and say, 'When I'm doing the people's business,
I'm doing it with a clear mind and not under the influence of any drug.'
"
A former state police trooper, Krieger says he doesn't have any insider
information about politicians toking in the restrooms or snorting in
their offices. He says it's more about accountability and fairness.
Thousands of workers in Oregon must submit to drug tests to get hired or
keep their jobs.
Furthermore, he spent quite a bit of time during the last session
working on a set of anti-meth bills. He learned enough about the drug to
know that people you would never suspect can get caught in its addictive
spiral.
"To imply that we're above it all is ridiculous," Krieger says.
In past decades, alcoholism was a big problem among legislators, he
says. More recently -- and more to the point -- former Rep. Kelley
Wirth, D-Corvallis, had to resign in 2005 after she was arrested for
having a small amount of methamphetamine in her car.
Wirth eventually pleaded guilty to drug possession. Krieger says that's
not why he offered his bill but says a willingness by elected officials
to undergo drug testing could help boost their sagging credibility in
the eyes of the public.
So, given all that, what are the chances of the bill going anywhere?
Somewhere between zero and absolute zero.
The bill has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee. Rep. Greg
Macpherson, D-Lake Oswego, takes a dim view of it. The Legislature is
aiming for an end-of-June adjournment and needs to use its time
"pragmatically," he says.
"If there's some evidence that the chief justice or the state treasurer
is taking a controlled substance, then we can look at whether this is a
good solution,"
Macpherson said. "We should focus our time on real issues, not invented
or imagined ones."
Reaction among those to whom the bill would apply was muted. Gov. Ted
Kulongoski's spokeswoman said the governor would be "interested to hear
the floor debate" on the bill. Secretary of State Bill Bradbury said
through a spokeswoman that he has no opinion on the bill but would
comply if it became law.
"I'm OK with being tested," said Susan Castillo, state schools
superintendent. "My question would be, why?"
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19 Jan 2007 05:56:16 PM |
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Some employers have individuals take a pre-employment drug test. The
voters should have candidates take drug tests prior to the election, the
results being published in the voters pamphlet.
What good is it to know a legislator is a drug user once they're in
office? In the case of a State Representative, by the time a recall
election could take place the legislative session would be over.
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19 Jan 2007 06:48:10 PM |
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Some employers have individuals take a pre-employment drug test. The
voters should have candidates take drug tests prior to the election, the
results being published in the voters pamphlet.
A one-time test doesn't do much.
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19 Jan 2007 07:22:14 PM |
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Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
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| User: "Curt" |
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19 Jan 2007 09:19:20 PM |
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"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
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Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
Actually, you'd be wasting money.
The "lack the sel-control" crowd has already been selected out by the
elections process.
Or are you For wasting the Taxpayers' Precious Money?
Curt
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20 Jan 2007 08:52:02 AM |
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Curt wrote:
"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
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Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
Actually, you'd be wasting money.
The "lack the sel-control" crowd has already been selected out by the
elections process.
Or are you For wasting the Taxpayers' Precious Money?
Curt
Yea and we have to save that money for more important things like saving
the earth before it dies, right curt
LOL :)
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nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan
http://www.highvolumemedia.com/thebullhorn/WarOnTerror/ClintonsFailures/
\"POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE
CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON\"
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| User: "Curt" |
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21 Jan 2007 08:25:57 PM |
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"Larry (Scratch)" <Scratch@Tigard.OR.com> wrote in message
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Curt wrote:
"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
news:1169256134.593069.144780@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
Actually, you'd be wasting money.
The "lack the sel-control" crowd has already been selected out by the
elections process.
Or are you For wasting the Taxpayers' Precious Money?
Curt
Yea and we have to save that money for more important things like saving
the earth before it dies, right curt
We could save it for things like making sure the toilets flush, and sanding
the roads when it ices..
Just a thought.
Curt
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19 Jan 2007 08:10:36 PM |
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"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote in message
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You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
That's a good way of putting it, Spread. A friend who is a former parole
officer and had to administer the tests told me pretty much the same thing;
he didn't care about whether his clients smoked a little pot; it was the
ones that couldn't control themselves even when they -knew- they were going
to get tested and that they would go to jail if they failed. People like
that were problematic all the way around. (Especially the ones who had
children.)
There's one exception: My father in law once fired the batallion cook for
failing a ***** test; apparently, he'd failed one before but the previous 1st
Sgt let it slide.
Seriously, though. Who fires a reliable cook for smoking pot while off the
clock?! If there's one thing a stoner knows, it's his way around a kitchen;
the one who has most experience with the munchies. (He said he might not
have fired the guy, except he pulled the old line "I was at a party where
people were smoking and I injested it secondhand.")
-c
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| User: "Lobby Dosser" |
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| Title: Re: Drug Testing for Legislators |
20 Jan 2007 01:46:44 AM |
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"gatt" <LiveFromTheClocktower@gfy.com> wrote:
There's one exception: My father in law once fired the batallion
cook for failing a ***** test; apparently, he'd failed one before but
the previous 1st Sgt let it slide.
Our night cook was an alcoholic and, as we named him, the world's oldest
living teenager in captivity. He'd open the mess hall for midnight chow and
then go pass out somewhere. It was great. Those of us on evenings, nights,
or just looking for something to soak up the alcohol got to try out our
culinary skills!
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| User: "Don Homuth" |
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| Title: Re: Drug Testing for Legislators |
19 Jan 2007 07:24:01 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2007 17:22:14 -0800, "Spread Eagle®"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
Do you Truly believe that a political candidate would have such an
issue?
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| User: "Paul J. Berg" |
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| Title: Re: Drug Testing for Legislators |
19 Jan 2007 11:44:57 PM |
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Don Homuth wrote:
On 19 Jan 2007 17:22:14 -0800, "Spread Eagle=AE"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have full
prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job depends on
it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of the worst. It
does that much.
Do you Truly believe that a political candidate would have such an
issue?
Yes, I do. Considering the members of Congress (Nay, Foley, Kennedy,
etc.) who have lately blamed their bad behavior on substance abuse, who
knows what you will find among candidates for the state legislature who
face far less scrutinizing than incumbent members of Congress.
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| User: "Lobby Dosser" |
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| Title: Re: Drug Testing for Legislators |
20 Jan 2007 01:49:00 AM |
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"Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
On 19 Jan 2007 17:22:14 -0800, "Spread Eagle®"
<redsky@virtualhosts.net> wrote:
Don Homuth wrote:
A one-time test doesn't do much.
You'd be surprised at the number of people out there who lack the
self-control to refrain from consuming drugs even when they have
full prior notice of a mere one-time test and their getting a job
depends on it. So the test successfully filters out these worst of
the worst. It does that much.
Do you Truly believe that a political candidate would have such an
issue?
Yes, I do. Considering the members of Congress (Nay, Foley, Kennedy,
etc.) who have lately blamed their bad behavior on substance abuse,
who knows what you will find among candidates for the state
legislature who face far less scrutinizing than incumbent members of
Congress.
Nit: Ney - like Nappy's Marshall, not Nay.
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