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"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" |
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12 May 2004 08:50:53 AM |
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Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
To people like Kennedy, the killing of Americans is "America's fault".
Kennedy and his ilk thus want *American* apologies, and would never even
dream of calling on al Qaeda or the Muslim world to apologize.
I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle? Would they still demand that
Rumsfeld resign? Or would they begin to dimly perceive that al Qaeda, not
America, is their enemy?
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| User: "Crazy Bastard" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
13 May 2004 08:17:23 AM |
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"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" <GulfstreamVbigCheese@DNC.net> wrote in message
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Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
What if a relative of Mary Jo's sawed off Ted's oversized head then drop
kicked that big gorde-like melon over the bridge? Would that be
environmental pollution? Would it be Osama's fault?
I think Ted's body actually stores vodka for future consumption much like
some desert animals store water for a drought.
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| User: "Newk Mecah" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
13 May 2004 08:48:41 AM |
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"Crazy *****" <crazyodb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" <GulfstreamVbigCheese@DNC.net> wrote in message
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Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
What if a relative of Mary Jo's sawed off Ted's oversized head then drop
kicked that big gorde-like melon over the bridge? Would that be
environmental pollution? Would it be Osama's fault?
I think Ted's body actually stores vodka for future consumption much like
some desert animals store water for a drought.
LOL! Stick a bung into Ted and you could probably use him at a Keg Party
and draw beer out of the guy.
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| User: "BlackWater" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 05:19:33 PM |
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"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" <GulfstreamVbigCheese@DNC.net> wrote:
Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
To people like Kennedy, the killing of Americans is "America's fault".
Kennedy and his ilk thus want *American* apologies, and would never even
dream of calling on al Qaeda or the Muslim world to apologize.
I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle? Would they still demand that
Rumsfeld resign? Or would they begin to dimly perceive that al Qaeda, not
America, is their enemy?
Liberals ? They'll never get it. To them Americans
(conservative ones at least) are the worst people in
the world. Apparently it's slipped their attention
that these moslem fanatics are a thousand times
MORE 'conservative' than your average Republican,
or even Pat Robertson.
If being 'conservative' is bad then al-Qaida is so
far BEYOND 'bad' that our liberals can't even get
their minds around the concept. So, they cuddle-up
to the worst of the worst, people who make bona-fide
goose-stepping fascists look wimpy, just so they can
snipe at their fellow Americans. It's almost funny.
Almost ....
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| User: "Superdude" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 11:05:44 AM |
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Jawne Frauwde Kerree wrote:
Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
To people like Kennedy, the killing of Americans is "America's fault".
Kennedy and his ilk thus want *American* apologies, and would never even
dream of calling on al Qaeda or the Muslim world to apologize.
I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle? Would they still demand that
Rumsfeld resign? Or would they begin to dimly perceive that al Qaeda, not
America, is their enemy?
?
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January -> Guards continue to abuse
prisoners -> Pictures of prisoners appear to the public -> Muslim
extremist in "retaliation" saws off head of an American.
Wow, sure links to Rumsfeld pretty nicely. Of course he should resign,
he lost the war on terror. You know the war that started with trying to
get Osama? You remember that guy don't you?
I know you are trying to project your guilt on other Americans, but if
the republicans weren't so fucking stupid to begin with, we would have
had Osama long time ago, left the region, been victorious, and maybe
Bush would be re-elected.
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| User: "Newk Mecah" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 11:10:27 AM |
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"Superdude" <superdude@flavorcountry.com> wrote in message
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Jawne Frauwde Kerree wrote:
Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
To people like Kennedy, the killing of Americans is "America's fault".
Kennedy and his ilk thus want *American* apologies, and would never even
dream of calling on al Qaeda or the Muslim world to apologize.
I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle? Would they still demand
that
Rumsfeld resign? Or would they begin to dimly perceive that al Qaeda,
not
America, is their enemy?
?
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your point??
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| User: "Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 11:12:16 AM |
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"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
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Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 11:21:01 AM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
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Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed? You guys act like nothing was being done to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
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Brooks Gregory
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| User: "Superdude" |
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| Title: Re: Drunken Oaf Ted Kennedy Calls For al Qaeda Resignation! |
12 May 2004 04:43:07 PM |
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Brooks Gregory wrote:
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
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Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed?
Jesus fucking Christ, How about doing a written memo in 15 seconds in
January. Something like this:
January 2004
Attn: All Prison Guards, Personnel, Contractors, and their COs.
It has come to our attention that many of the detainees held in our
prison system have been violated according to the Geneva Convention laws
of war. If it imperative that any violation of prisoners rights must
desist at this time. Anyone who has or is continuing such heinous acts
will be immediately court marshalled and docked pay.
This comes by order of the Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld and the
President of the United States.
Donald Rumsfeld
Defense Department
Pentagon
You guys act like nothing was being done to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
Man, that didn't take long did it.
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| User: "Brooks Gregory" |
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12 May 2004 04:55:43 PM |
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"Superdude" <superdude@flavorcountry.com> wrote in message
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Brooks Gregory wrote:
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
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Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed?
Jesus fucking Christ, How about doing a written memo in 15 seconds in
January. Something like this:
January 2004
Attn: All Prison Guards, Personnel, Contractors, and their COs.
It has come to our attention that many of the detainees held in our
prison system have been violated according to the Geneva Convention laws
of war. If it imperative that any violation of prisoners rights must
desist at this time. Anyone who has or is continuing such heinous acts
will be immediately court marshalled and docked pay.
This comes by order of the Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld and the
President of the United States.
Donald Rumsfeld
Defense Department
Pentagon
Yea, that would fix it, wouldn't it?
You guys act like nothing was being done to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
Man, that didn't take long did it.
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| User: "Superdude" |
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13 May 2004 10:52:22 AM |
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Brooks Gregory wrote:
"Superdude" <superdude@flavorcountry.com> wrote in message
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Brooks Gregory wrote:
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:t%roc.14850$GV5.2571@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
news:T%roc.7086$KE6.3407@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed?
Jesus fucking Christ, How about doing a written memo in 15 seconds in
January. Something like this:
January 2004
Attn: All Prison Guards, Personnel, Contractors, and their COs.
It has come to our attention that many of the detainees held in our
prison system have been violated according to the Geneva Convention laws
of war. If it imperative that any violation of prisoners rights must
desist at this time. Anyone who has or is continuing such heinous acts
will be immediately court marshalled and docked pay.
This comes by order of the Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld and the
President of the United States.
Donald Rumsfeld
Defense Department
Pentagon
Yea, that would fix it, wouldn't it?
It damn well should. If soldiers don't listen to orders, we have a
bigger fucking problem, don't we?
You guys act like nothing was being done to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
Man, that didn't take long did it.
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| User: "night&fog" |
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12 May 2004 11:54:40 AM |
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So Dumsfeld said "everyone knew, since January"
Then Bush says " I found out on TV. So all of the
capitol knew it was coming, except George?
Does that sound strange to anyone?
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
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"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
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Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed? You guys act like nothing was being done to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
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| User: "Jim" |
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13 May 2004 12:19:32 PM |
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"night&fog" <night&fog@3.org> wrote in message news:<10a4lm2hedb012d@corp.supernews.com>...
So Dumsfeld said "everyone knew, since January"
Then Bush says " I found out on TV. So all of the
capitol knew it was coming, except George?
Does that sound strange to anyone?
It does when you spin it like that.
The world knew of the allegations and investigation and then its
initial findings because of Army press conferences starting in Jan.
Bush was referring to the pictures and having seen them for the first
time on TV.
Jim
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| User: "mondaymorning" |
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12 May 2004 02:51:27 PM |
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You need to get your facts straight. There are many layers to the military
and you need to let the process work. You are missing a few layers in
trying to take it straight to the top.
Abuse and the Army
The military, not CBS, discovered the outrages at Abu Ghraib.
Thursday, May 6, 2004 12:01 a.m.
As President Bush and everyone else in America has said, any abuse of Iraqi
prisoners is "abhorrent" and should be punished. Yet it seems to us that an
overlooked story here, and ultimately the most telling, is
the degree to which the U.S. military is investigating itself and
holding people accountable.
This isn't a popular thought just now, with the media and politicians
in one of their bonfire phases. Every accusation against U.S. troops
is now getting front-page treatment. Like reporters at a free buffet,
Members of Congress are swarming to the TV cameras to declare their outrage
and demand someone's head, usually Donald Rumsfeld's. "System of abuse" and
"cover-up" are being tossed about without any evidence of either. The goal
seems to be less to punish the offenders than to grab one more reason to
discredit the Iraq war.
For a sense of proportion, let's rehearse the timeline here. While
some accusations of abuse go back to 2002 in Afghanistan, the
incidents at Abu Ghraib that triggered this week's news occurred last
autumn. They came to light through the chain of command in Iraq on
January 13. An Army criminal probe began a day later. Two days after that,
the U.S. Central Command disclosed in a press release that "an investigation
has been initiated into reported incidents of detainee
abuse at a Coalition Forces detention facility." By March 20,
Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt was able to announce in Baghdad that criminal
charges had been brought against six soldiers in the probe.
By the end of January, meanwhile, Major General Antonio Taguba was appointed
to conduct his separate "administrative" probe of procedures at Abu Ghraib.
It is his report, complete with its incriminating photos, that is the basis
for the past week's news reports. The press didn't break this story based on
months of sleuthing but was served up the results of the Army's own
investigation.
By February, the Secretary of the Army had ordered the service's
inspector general to assess the doctrine and training for detention
operations within all of CentCom. A month after that, another probe
began into Army Reserve training, especially military police and
intelligence. Those reports will presumably also be leaked and
reported on, or at least they will be if they reach negative
conclusions.
This is a cover-up? Unlike the Catholic bishops, some corporate boards and
the editors of the New York Times or USA Today, the military brass did not
dismiss early allegations of bad behavior. Instead, it established reviews
and procedures that have uncovered the very details that are now used by
critics to indict the Pentagon "system." It has done so, moreover, amid a
war against a deadly insurgency in which interrogation to gain good
intelligence is critical to
victory--and to saving American lives.
None of this is to dismiss or rationalize the abuse reports.
Accountability has to run beyond the soldiers immediately responsible
and up the Army and intelligence chains of command. The Abu Ghraib
procedures were clearly inadequate to a situation in which
interrogators were given so much control over the fates of individual
prisoners. Especially in a war on terror that will be long and require
effective interrogation, this is unacceptable.
Reprimands have already been issued and careers ended, but courts
martial can't be ruled out. President Bush's explanation to Arab media
yesterday may help our public image, especially given that their own
governments rarely admit mistakes. But the best way to impress Iraqis
about U.S. purposes is to show that Americans guilty of abuse are
being punished, and with more than letters of reprimand.
To start impugning the entire Army and Pentagon, however, is both
wrong and dangerous. The majority of American soldiers are
professional, disciplined and are risking their lives to win a war.
(Note to those who want to revive the draft: If this could happen in
today's highly trained volunteer force, imagine the risks in Senator
Chuck Hagel's Army of conscripts.)
Another bizarre notion is that Abu Ghraib happened because the
Pentagon decided to hold "enemy combatants" under other than "prisoner of
war" status. Those detainees are still given Geneva Convention treatment, as
well as visits by the Red Cross. The Pentagon has avoided formal Geneva
Convention status because it doesn't want al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners to
be able to hide behind "name, rank and serial number." As terrorists who
attacked civilians and didn't wear a uniform, they also don't deserve the
privileges of real soldiers. In any case, the soldiers who posed in those
Abu Ghraib photos were clearly too thick to know any of this.
The military has its faults and bad actors, but over the decades it
has shown itself to be one of America's most accountable institutions.
The Abu Ghraib episode is another test of its fortitude. But the
political class would do well to heed Democratic Senator Joe
Lieberman, who said yesterday that "this immoral behavior in no way
eliminates the justice of our cause in Iraq."
"night&fog" <night&fog@3.org> wrote in message
news:10a4lm2hedb012d@corp.supernews.com...
So Dumsfeld said "everyone knew, since January"
Then Bush says " I found out on TV. So all of the
capitol knew it was coming, except George?
Does that sound strange to anyone?
"Brooks Gregory" <brooksgregory@sbctelco.com> wrote in message
news:N9soc.15313017$Of.2557608@news.easynews.com...
"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message
news:t%roc.14850$GV5.2571@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
news:T%roc.7086$KE6.3407@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your
point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
How quick should it be fixed? You guys act like nothing was being done
to
fix until a week ago. That does not seem to be the case.
--
Brooks Gregory
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| User: "ex_cathedra" |
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12 May 2004 11:38:45 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message news:<t%roc.14850$GV5.2571@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
news:T%roc.7086$KE6.3407@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
Rummy is real good at fixing things.
(Rummy has always been short for the term Rum-Dum)
Not anymore though!
Did anyone see the ABC Special Report on that bio of the Rummy ?
They showed him at his Arizona ranch.
His hobby is walking around in the feild and collecting nuts
,bolts,and anyother objects he can find.
Then he takes them into his barn and arranges them.
Thats a talented guy.
Obsessive compulsive,and a bit insane.
But hey...how many people do you know with a hobby as cool as that ?
(Homeless guys with their own shopping carts don't count)
The Rummy isn't going to resign.
Guys who collect found objects and arrange them in pretty piles don't
know the meaning of the word quit.
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12 May 2004 11:42:48 PM |
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"Bob" <no@email.address> wrote in message news:<t%roc.14850$GV5.2571@bignews4.bellsouth.net>...
"Newk Mecah" <MuslimVerminLover@TedKennedy.com> wrote in message
news:T%roc.7086$KE6.3407@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Rumsfeld knew about abuse in January ->
Ted Kennedy was also notified in January about this, so what's your point??
Rumsfeld has the responsibility to fix it. Kennedy
has the responsibility to see that Rumsfeld fixes
it.
Rummy is real good at fixing things.
(Rummy has always been short for the term Rum-Dum)
Not anymore though!
Did anyone see the ABC Special Report on that bio of the Rummy ?
They showed him at his Arizona ranch.
His hobby is walking around in the feild and collecting nuts
,bolts,and anyother objects he can find.
Then he takes them into his barn and arranges them.
Thats a talented guy.
Obsessive compulsive,and a bit insane.
But hey...how many people do you know with a hobby as cool as that ?
(Homeless guys with their own shopping carts don't count)
The Rummy isn't going to resign.
Guys who collect found objects and arrange them in pretty piles don't
know the meaning of the word quit.
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| User: "Roger" |
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12 May 2004 08:58:48 PM |
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Troll.
"Jawne Frauwde Kerree" <GulfstreamVbigCheese@DNC.net> wrote in message
news:1Zpoc.3292$zO3.599@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Just kidding, of course.
Ted Kennedy would never do that. No, Kennedy and his ilk reserve their
apparently unlimited stockpile of hate for America, not for Muslim
Terrorists.
To people like Kennedy, the killing of Americans is "America's fault".
Kennedy and his ilk thus want *American* apologies, and would never even
dream of calling on al Qaeda or the Muslim world to apologize.
I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle? Would they still demand that
Rumsfeld resign? Or would they begin to dimly perceive that al Qaeda, not
America, is their enemy?
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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12 May 2004 09:52:04 PM |
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jfk sez:
"I wonder how Kennedy's followers would react if some al Qaeda folk sawed
Kennedy's head off and taped the spectacle?..."
_________________________________________
After an initial period of disbelief, say lasting 3- 5 minutes or so, there
would be a great sigh of relief then raucous celebrations would
spontaneously break out and gradually get louder and wilder as they spread
across the whole country.
An hour later, Bush would use a clean hanky to wipe a tear out of his eye
and declare a national holiday.
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