Thomas Anantharaman <tsa@biostat.wisc.edu> wrote in message news:<OEq9b.68860$xD.8082@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>...

Raymond wrote:

Mr.Levinson: I didn't see anything about McGinnis having duel
citizenship or even anything about loyalty to Northern Ireland.

The whole point is that the Irish Republican Army receives most of its
funding from voluntary
donations of Irish Americans, that for the most part are just US
citizens and NOT dual citizens.
Bush was most reluctant to even list the Irish Repulican Army as a
terrorist origanization
after 9/11 and only did so to reward Blair. I believe Bush still refuses
to list Sin Fein, the polical
arm of the IRA, as a terrorist organization even though he insisted the
distinction between polical
and military wings of terrorist organizations makes no sense in the case
of Hamas.

And his proposal: "No one with citizenship in any country other
than the United States may hold appropriate office in the United
States Government" sounds like a damn good idea.

My original response was to agree that his proposal is sound. But if you
consider the case of Irish
Americans (who for the most part are not offered dual citizenship by
Ireland) you can see that it is
just as easy for someone who has only the US citizenship to have certain
loyalties to other countries
(even to the extent of sending massive donations to terrorist
organizations that identify with those
countries). Disallowing dual citizenship just forces people with dual
loyalties to hide them from public
view and serves no purpose.

The more sensible proposal would be to disallow anyone from holding
public office (or security
clearance) in more than one country at the same time since it would be
impossible even for an honest
person to live up to their obligations in such cases.

******************
Dr. Anantharaman I presume?
It is true that most of the money financing the IRA comes from
American citizens of Irish decent, most of whom fled the potato famine
and starvation in BRITISH CONTROLLED Ireland in the 1840's. Other
money comes from people all over the world that simply sympathize with
the underdog in the fight with London.
Both England and the "Orangemen" of Northern Ireland wanted the US
to stop "private charity" giving to the IRA but that would be just as
impossible as outlawing private money being sent to any place in the
world.
But this is entirely different than having American taxpayer's
billions going to Israel to be used to displace and kill indigenous
peoples from THEIR LAND and homes.
And, incidentally, the IRA does not have a lobby anything like the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee. "AIPAC is widely regarded as
the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in Washington. Its 60,000
members shower millions of dollars on hundreds of members of Congress
on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the New York Times fear
the Jewish lobby as well. "Its very intimidating' said a correspondent
at another large daily. 'The pressure is resentless.' "
See: http://www.webcom.com/hrin/magazine/israellobby.html
When Congress votes so decisively to support Israel it is no
accident, and anyone that doesn't understand that 9/11 and further
terrorist attacks against the US and American interests elsewhere, is
not the result of America's one-sided favorite nation treatment of
Israel, is qualified , under Medicare, for mental treatment.
See:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/worldview/story/0,11581,845725,00.html
Pro-Israel PAC Contributions to 2002 Congressional Candidates
http://www.hdip.org/Fact%20sheets/us_aid_to_israel.htm
http://www.amjerusalem.org/InfoBriefs/12billion.pdf

This is a Jewish war in Iraq fought and financed by American
taxpayers
See: Israel-Iraq and the Wolfowitz/JINSA plan
http://www.americanintifada.com/israel-iraq.htm

Netanyahu Says Iraq-Israel Oil Line No Pipe Dream
"It won't be long when you will see Iraq oil flowing to Haifa, the
port city in Northern Israel." Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/814.html

"American troops are being used as nothing more than agents of
extortion for American oil companies justification to provide oil to
the Jews in Israel and to increase oil prices. this was the primary
intent of Desert Storm, and clearly Junior intends to finish papa's
dream. After all the Bush family does dabble in oil don't they?"
http://www.sierratimes.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=25&topic=107

It is impossible to understand the Bush Administration's treatment of
the Sharon government without taking into account the influence of
groups like AIPAC. Isn't it time they were exposed to the daylight
along with the Knesset pimp for Israel, Joe "Likud" Lieberman?

Impeach Bush
Shalom,
Bluerhymer

Thomas Anantharaman <tsa@biostat.wisc.edu> wrote in message news:<OEq9b.68860$xD.8082@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>...

Raymond wrote:

Mr.Levinson: I didn't see anything about McGinnis having duel
citizenship or even anything about loyalty to Northern Ireland.

The whole point is that the Irish Republican Army receives most of its
funding from voluntary
donations of Irish Americans, that for the most part are just US
citizens and NOT dual citizens.
Bush was most reluctant to even list the Irish Repulican Army as a
terrorist origanization
after 9/11 and only did so to reward Blair. I believe Bush still refuses
to list Sin Fein, the polical
arm of the IRA, as a terrorist organization even though he insisted the
distinction between polical
and military wings of terrorist organizations makes no sense in the case
of Hamas.

And his proposal: "No one with citizenship in any country other
than the United States may hold appropriate office in the United
States Government" sounds like a damn good idea.

My original response was to agree that his proposal is sound. But if you
consider the case of Irish
Americans (who for the most part are not offered dual citizenship by
Ireland) you can see that it is
just as easy for someone who has only the US citizenship to have certain
loyalties to other countries
(even to the extent of sending massive donations to terrorist
organizations that identify with those
countries). Disallowing dual citizenship just forces people with dual
loyalties to hide them from public
view and serves no purpose.

The more sensible proposal would be to disallow anyone from holding
public office (or security
clearance) in more than one country at the same time since it would be
impossible even for an honest
person to live up to their obligations in such cases.

******************
Dr. Anantharaman I presume?
It is true that most of the money financing the IRA comes from
American citizens of Irish decent, most of whom fled the potato famine
and starvation in BRITISH CONTROLLED Ireland in the 1840's. Other
money comes from people all over the world that simply sympathize wit
the underdog in the fight with London.
Both England and the "Orangemen" of Northern Ireland wanted the US
to stop "private charity" giving to the IRA but that would be just as
impossible as outlawing private money being sent to any place in the
world.
But this is entirely different than having American taxpayer's
billions going to Israel to be used to displace and kill indigenous
peoples from THEIR LAND and homes.

And, incidentally, the IRA does not have a lobby anything like the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee. "AIPAC is widely regarded as
the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in Washington. Its 60,000
members shower millions of dollars on hundreds of members of Congress
on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the New York Times fear
the Jewish lobby as well. "Its very intimidating' said a correspondent
at another large daily. 'The pressure is resentless.' "

See: http://www.webcom.com/hrin/magazine/israellobby.html
When Congress votes so decisively to support Israel it is no
acident,

This is a Jewish war in Iraq fought and financed by American
taxpayers
See: Israel-Iraq and the Wolfowitz/JINSA plan
http://www.americanintifada.com/israel-iraq.htm

Netanyahu Says Iraq-Israel Oil Line No Pipe Dream
"It won't be long when you will see Iraq oil flowing to Haifa, the
port city in Northern Israel."

Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/814.html

"American troops are being used as nothing more than agents of
extortion for American oil companies justification to provide oil to
the Jews in Israel and to increase oil prices. this was the primary
intent of Desert Storm, and clearly Junior intends to finish papa's
dream. After all the Bush family does dabble in oil don't they?
http://www.sierratimes.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topi.cgi?forum?=25&topic=107

It is impossible to understand the Bush Administration's treatment of
the Sharon government without taking into account the influence of
groups like AIPAC. Isn't it time they were exposed to the daylight
along with the Knesset pimp for Israel, Joe "Likud" Lieberman?

Impeach Bush

Shalom,
Bluerhymer