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From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
Oh right like this is exactly what we need.
Let us imagine the discussion:
"Boys, the nation's in massive reeling record-breaking debt and
morale's at an all-time low and disposable American soldiers are dying
brutal horrific deaths every day over nothing at all except our greed
and flagrant cronyism and corporate petrochemical profiteering.
"Our cities are gasping and health care is a joke and we've mauled
Medicare beyond recognition, and we're plundering the living hell out
of Social Security, the last remaining stable and sound fund left, to
try and shore up our rapacious and gluttonous spending.
"There are no WMDs and our former allies openly resent us and the poll
ratings are slipping and the big glops of warmongering lies are drying
like blood stains into a carpet. And it's an election year. Damn.
"What's to be done? What could rally a wary country during its time of
humiliated need and force-fed ignorance? What could turn this troubled
nation around in the face of oily corporate war and fiscal gluttony
and environmental savagery?
"Why, neato space stations on the moon, and sending men to Mars,
that's what!"
Yes indeed.
Leave it to BushCo to try and slap an astronomically expensive,
useless balm on the nation's gaping wounds by vainly attempting to
recapture some of that droning faux-'50s and -'60s nostalgia no one
really asked for.
Remember that time?
The "greatest generation"?
A time when white-bread repressed often unhappily married
segregationist America gathered 'round the ol' black-and-white to gaze
in passionate wonder at the images beamed back from the Apollo
landings?
What a time it was.
Don't you want some of that sense of desperate hopefulness back?
Of course you do.
Got $500 billion to pay for it?
Hey, that was the cost estimate for a similar man-on-Mars scheme when
Dubya Sr. proposed it in 1989, just before he was promptly laughed off
the fiscal stage.
Of course, like every obscene BushCo proposal, there was never a
mention of how NASA could ever possibly pay for such a venture, and no
mention of how BushCo could rape the Treasury that much further to
fund random exercises in ridiculous excess.
Oh well.
Look at it this way.
Dubya will, by every account, go down as the worst environmental
president in American history.
He will also be remembered as the most blindly warmongering president
and the least articulate president and the most corporate-shilling
president and the most flagrantly fraudulent and borderline treasonous
president.
And, hence, you can bet your big snakeskin Texas cowboy boots he wants
this "big ol' Mars thingy" to be some sort of, you know, legacy.
He wants his name in the history books as the one who decided to meet
the little green men.
He wants to stick a flag in the rusty planet and claim it in the name
of, you know, Ronald Reagan.
This from a man who never cared a whit for space exploration in his
entire spoon-fed career, a man who never even once visited the famed
Johnson Space Center in Houston while serving as Texas governor.
And you just know half the impulse for this inane new idea is so Shrub
can get himself flown to the space-shuttle launch pad and have his
picture taken in a shiny spacesuit.
How cute.
It's got that reek.
It's got that reek of typical macho Republican election-year BS, the
sort of hollow grandiose chest thumping that stains so many BushCo PR
stunts, all war and guns and rockets and oil and big slabs of
chemically blasted hormone injected semirancid Texas beef
(hey, it's what's for dinner).
Look.
NASA is wonderful.
Space exploration is magnificent and essential and we learn enormous
amounts about ourselves in the process.
The Spirit rover on Mars right now?
Breathtaking.
Astounding new technologies are developed during major NASA missions,
ideas that trickle down into the cultural mainstream and make life, if
not easier, then at least more interesting, or lighter, or thinner, or
edible at temperatures down to minus 450 degrees with a battery pack
that lasts 127 hours and a new infrared extrasensory ink that can be
read by blind comatose monkeys.
Space is good.
But look again.
Our schools are desperate.
The Wal-Mart/SUV mentality is a national cancer.
Basic services nationwide are being starved and shut down as cities
scramble for fiscal scraps.
John Ashcroft still has a job.
The national treasury has been looted and plundered like never before
in American history, toppling from a record surplus to a record
deficit in a little over three years, with 3.1 million newly
unemployed Americans as a bitter kicker.
That tiny blip of an economic "recovery" you keep reading about?
Tell that to your unemployed neighbors.
And it's just shy of appalling that BushCo is suddenly all atwitter
over a massive, impossible, ridiculously expensive scheme to send a
manned mission to Mars, when any 5-year-old could come up with roughly
2,323 more vital and needful areas where such huge sums of money could
be spent.
Can you think of five, just off the top of your head, as you step
around that homeless person?
Damn right you can.
Do we need to recall that sucker-punch $87 bil BushCo reamed through
Congress to help pay for our continued occupation of Iraq, a nation
that doesn't want us and was never a threat to us and that is now
equaling Vietnam in costs, both fiscal and humanitarian?
Does Mars mean we get to bring our troops home and save those
budget-gutting billions and redirect them toward something
progressive?
One guess.
Maybe we should just shrug it off.
Just dismiss it as yet another a silly exercise in political ego and
bogus machismo.
After all, it's all about big dumb gesture, all about trying to cover
up appalling atrocities and insulting policy in an election year --
much like suddenly pretending to care about immigrants, or health
care, or gay rights, when your party defines itself as the world
headquarters of homophobic pro-corporate isolationism.
This is what it boils down to, really: a big joke.
There will be no men on Mars in 2020.
There will be no massive, super-keen space station on the moon anytime
soon.
Even BushCo's own financial advisers openly cringe when the Mumbly One
tosses up such an obvious and impossibly costly PR stunt, one so
clearly designed to instill a false sense of hope and "America rules!"
faux patriotism in a country heavily drugged on fear and false
righteousness.
All well and good, right?
All just silly politics as usual, really, just so much election-year
flatulence from the administration that brought you the New Vietnam.
That is, until you realize who the joke is on.
______________________________________________________
Thanks, once again, go to the inimitable Mark Morford.
Harry
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15 Jan 2004 03:52:22 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<v5id00hcb2i9lab9pjqua4oc8v9srbc18d@4ax.com>...
From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
NOW, having given Iraq to Halliburton, GWB is going to give
them the moon.
Buy Halliburton stock; by 2007 they'll own both Congess
and the White House!!!!
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
Oh right like this is exactly what we need.
Let us imagine the discussion:
"Boys, the nation's in massive reeling record-breaking debt and
morale's at an all-time low and disposable American soldiers are dying
brutal horrific deaths every day over nothing at all except our greed
and flagrant cronyism and corporate petrochemical profiteering.
"Our cities are gasping and health care is a joke and we've mauled
Medicare beyond recognition, and we're plundering the living hell out
of Social Security, the last remaining stable and sound fund left, to
try and shore up our rapacious and gluttonous spending.
"There are no WMDs and our former allies openly resent us and the poll
ratings are slipping and the big glops of warmongering lies are drying
like blood stains into a carpet. And it's an election year. Damn.
"What's to be done? What could rally a wary country during its time of
humiliated need and force-fed ignorance? What could turn this troubled
nation around in the face of oily corporate war and fiscal gluttony
and environmental savagery?
"Why, neato space stations on the moon, and sending men to Mars,
that's what!"
Yes indeed.
Leave it to BushCo to try and slap an astronomically expensive,
useless balm on the nation's gaping wounds by vainly attempting to
recapture some of that droning faux-'50s and -'60s nostalgia no one
really asked for.
Remember that time?
The "greatest generation"?
A time when white-bread repressed often unhappily married
segregationist America gathered 'round the ol' black-and-white to gaze
in passionate wonder at the images beamed back from the Apollo
landings?
What a time it was.
Don't you want some of that sense of desperate hopefulness back?
Of course you do.
Got $500 billion to pay for it?
Hey, that was the cost estimate for a similar man-on-Mars scheme when
Dubya Sr. proposed it in 1989, just before he was promptly laughed off
the fiscal stage.
Of course, like every obscene BushCo proposal, there was never a
mention of how NASA could ever possibly pay for such a venture, and no
mention of how BushCo could rape the Treasury that much further to
fund random exercises in ridiculous excess.
Oh well.
Look at it this way.
Dubya will, by every account, go down as the worst environmental
president in American history.
He will also be remembered as the most blindly warmongering president
and the least articulate president and the most corporate-shilling
president and the most flagrantly fraudulent and borderline treasonous
president.
And, hence, you can bet your big snakeskin Texas cowboy boots he wants
this "big ol' Mars thingy" to be some sort of, you know, legacy.
He wants his name in the history books as the one who decided to meet
the little green men.
He wants to stick a flag in the rusty planet and claim it in the name
of, you know, Ronald Reagan.
This from a man who never cared a whit for space exploration in his
entire spoon-fed career, a man who never even once visited the famed
Johnson Space Center in Houston while serving as Texas governor.
And you just know half the impulse for this inane new idea is so Shrub
can get himself flown to the space-shuttle launch pad and have his
picture taken in a shiny spacesuit.
How cute.
It's got that reek.
It's got that reek of typical macho Republican election-year BS, the
sort of hollow grandiose chest thumping that stains so many BushCo PR
stunts, all war and guns and rockets and oil and big slabs of
chemically blasted hormone injected semirancid Texas beef
(hey, it's what's for dinner).
Look.
NASA is wonderful.
Space exploration is magnificent and essential and we learn enormous
amounts about ourselves in the process.
The Spirit rover on Mars right now?
Breathtaking.
Astounding new technologies are developed during major NASA missions,
ideas that trickle down into the cultural mainstream and make life, if
not easier, then at least more interesting, or lighter, or thinner, or
edible at temperatures down to minus 450 degrees with a battery pack
that lasts 127 hours and a new infrared extrasensory ink that can be
read by blind comatose monkeys.
Space is good.
But look again.
Our schools are desperate.
The Wal-Mart/SUV mentality is a national cancer.
Basic services nationwide are being starved and shut down as cities
scramble for fiscal scraps.
John Ashcroft still has a job.
The national treasury has been looted and plundered like never before
in American history, toppling from a record surplus to a record
deficit in a little over three years, with 3.1 million newly
unemployed Americans as a bitter kicker.
That tiny blip of an economic "recovery" you keep reading about?
Tell that to your unemployed neighbors.
And it's just shy of appalling that BushCo is suddenly all atwitter
over a massive, impossible, ridiculously expensive scheme to send a
manned mission to Mars, when any 5-year-old could come up with roughly
2,323 more vital and needful areas where such huge sums of money could
be spent.
Can you think of five, just off the top of your head, as you step
around that homeless person?
Damn right you can.
Do we need to recall that sucker-punch $87 bil BushCo reamed through
Congress to help pay for our continued occupation of Iraq, a nation
that doesn't want us and was never a threat to us and that is now
equaling Vietnam in costs, both fiscal and humanitarian?
Does Mars mean we get to bring our troops home and save those
budget-gutting billions and redirect them toward something
progressive?
One guess.
Maybe we should just shrug it off.
Just dismiss it as yet another a silly exercise in political ego and
bogus machismo.
After all, it's all about big dumb gesture, all about trying to cover
up appalling atrocities and insulting policy in an election year --
much like suddenly pretending to care about immigrants, or health
care, or gay rights, when your party defines itself as the world
headquarters of homophobic pro-corporate isolationism.
This is what it boils down to, really: a big joke.
There will be no men on Mars in 2020.
There will be no massive, super-keen space station on the moon anytime
soon.
Even BushCo's own financial advisers openly cringe when the Mumbly One
tosses up such an obvious and impossibly costly PR stunt, one so
clearly designed to instill a false sense of hope and "America rules!"
faux patriotism in a country heavily drugged on fear and false
righteousness.
All well and good, right?
All just silly politics as usual, really, just so much election-year
flatulence from the administration that brought you the New Vietnam.
That is, until you realize who the joke is on.
______________________________________________________
Thanks, once again, go to the inimitable Mark Morford.
Harry
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15 Jan 2004 05:19:57 PM |
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Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<v5id00hcb2i9lab9pjqua4oc8v9srbc18d@4ax.com>...
From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
Oh right like this is exactly what we need.
Let us imagine the discussion:
"Boys, the nation's in massive reeling record-breaking debt and
morale's at an all-time low and disposable American soldiers are dying
brutal horrific deaths every day over nothing at all except our greed
and flagrant cronyism and corporate petrochemical profiteering.
"Our cities are gasping and health care is a joke and we've mauled
Medicare beyond recognition, and we're plundering the living hell out
of Social Security, the last remaining stable and sound fund left, to
try and shore up our rapacious and gluttonous spending.
"There are no WMDs and our former allies openly resent us and the poll
ratings are slipping and the big glops of warmongering lies are drying
like blood stains into a carpet. And it's an election year. Damn.
"What's to be done? What could rally a wary country during its time of
humiliated need and force-fed ignorance? What could turn this troubled
nation around in the face of oily corporate war and fiscal gluttony
and environmental savagery?
"Why, neato space stations on the moon, and sending men to Mars,
that's what!"
Yes indeed.
Leave it to BushCo to try and slap an astronomically expensive,
useless balm on the nation's gaping wounds by vainly attempting to
recapture some of that droning faux-'50s and -'60s nostalgia no one
really asked for.
Remember that time?
The "greatest generation"?
A time when white-bread repressed often unhappily married
segregationist America gathered 'round the ol' black-and-white to gaze
in passionate wonder at the images beamed back from the Apollo
landings?
What a time it was.
Don't you want some of that sense of desperate hopefulness back?
Of course you do.
Got $500 billion to pay for it?
Hey, that was the cost estimate for a similar man-on-Mars scheme when
Dubya Sr. proposed it in 1989, just before he was promptly laughed off
the fiscal stage.
Of course, like every obscene BushCo proposal, there was never a
mention of how NASA could ever possibly pay for such a venture, and no
mention of how BushCo could rape the Treasury that much further to
fund random exercises in ridiculous excess.
Oh well.
Look at it this way.
Dubya will, by every account, go down as the worst environmental
president in American history.
He will also be remembered as the most blindly warmongering president
and the least articulate president and the most corporate-shilling
president and the most flagrantly fraudulent and borderline treasonous
president.
And, hence, you can bet your big snakeskin Texas cowboy boots he wants
this "big ol' Mars thingy" to be some sort of, you know, legacy.
He wants his name in the history books as the one who decided to meet
the little green men.
He wants to stick a flag in the rusty planet and claim it in the name
of, you know, Ronald Reagan.
This from a man who never cared a whit for space exploration in his
entire spoon-fed career, a man who never even once visited the famed
Johnson Space Center in Houston while serving as Texas governor.
And you just know half the impulse for this inane new idea is so Shrub
can get himself flown to the space-shuttle launch pad and have his
picture taken in a shiny spacesuit.
How cute.
It's got that reek.
It's got that reek of typical macho Republican election-year BS, the
sort of hollow grandiose chest thumping that stains so many BushCo PR
stunts, all war and guns and rockets and oil and big slabs of
chemically blasted hormone injected semirancid Texas beef
(hey, it's what's for dinner).
Look.
NASA is wonderful.
Space exploration is magnificent and essential and we learn enormous
amounts about ourselves in the process.
The Spirit rover on Mars right now?
Breathtaking.
Astounding new technologies are developed during major NASA missions,
ideas that trickle down into the cultural mainstream and make life, if
not easier, then at least more interesting, or lighter, or thinner, or
edible at temperatures down to minus 450 degrees with a battery pack
that lasts 127 hours and a new infrared extrasensory ink that can be
read by blind comatose monkeys.
Space is good.
But look again.
Our schools are desperate.
The Wal-Mart/SUV mentality is a national cancer.
Basic services nationwide are being starved and shut down as cities
scramble for fiscal scraps.
John Ashcroft still has a job.
The national treasury has been looted and plundered like never before
in American history, toppling from a record surplus to a record
deficit in a little over three years, with 3.1 million newly
unemployed Americans as a bitter kicker.
That tiny blip of an economic "recovery" you keep reading about?
Tell that to your unemployed neighbors.
And it's just shy of appalling that BushCo is suddenly all atwitter
over a massive, impossible, ridiculously expensive scheme to send a
manned mission to Mars, when any 5-year-old could come up with roughly
2,323 more vital and needful areas where such huge sums of money could
be spent.
Can you think of five, just off the top of your head, as you step
around that homeless person?
Damn right you can.
Do we need to recall that sucker-punch $87 bil BushCo reamed through
Congress to help pay for our continued occupation of Iraq, a nation
that doesn't want us and was never a threat to us and that is now
equaling Vietnam in costs, both fiscal and humanitarian?
Does Mars mean we get to bring our troops home and save those
budget-gutting billions and redirect them toward something
progressive?
One guess.
Maybe we should just shrug it off.
Just dismiss it as yet another a silly exercise in political ego and
bogus machismo.
After all, it's all about big dumb gesture, all about trying to cover
up appalling atrocities and insulting policy in an election year --
much like suddenly pretending to care about immigrants, or health
care, or gay rights, when your party defines itself as the world
headquarters of homophobic pro-corporate isolationism.
This is what it boils down to, really: a big joke.
There will be no men on Mars in 2020.
There will be no massive, super-keen space station on the moon anytime
soon.
Even BushCo's own financial advisers openly cringe when the Mumbly One
tosses up such an obvious and impossibly costly PR stunt, one so
clearly designed to instill a false sense of hope and "America rules!"
faux patriotism in a country heavily drugged on fear and false
righteousness.
All well and good, right?
All just silly politics as usual, really, just so much election-year
flatulence from the administration that brought you the New Vietnam.
That is, until you realize who the joke is on.
______________________________________________________
Thanks, once again, go to the inimitable Mark Morford.
Harry
Obviously Little Georgie has seen Star Wars, Space 1999 and Star Trek
one to many times!
Frankly from what I have seen and heard from the experts over the last
few days Harry the cost to do everything he wants to do could easily
hit Three Trillion Dollar Mark!Especially as there are so many new
types of technology that do not now exist(like for example a Single
Stage to Orbit craft) that literally need to be invented from scratch,
anyone of which if it does not come to be could add decades and
billions of $$$ onto any planned base on the Moon or any trip to Mars.
And all this Bull ***** to do something a machine/robot can now do
better,quicker and cheaper!
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Subject: Re: Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to
meet little green men. The nation cringes
From: (Tabernacle)
Date: 1/15/2004 6:19 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <6449fb5e.0401151
Obviously Little Georgie has seen Star Wars, Space 1999 and Star Trek
one to many times!
Frankly from what I have seen and heard from the experts over the last
few days Harry the cost to do everything he wants to do could easily
hit Three Trillion Dollar Mark!Especially as there are so many new
types of technology that do not now exist(like for example a Sin
base on the Moon or any trip to Mars.
And all this Bull ***** to do something a machine/robot can now do
better,quicker and cheaper!
I listened to the President and he was very serious about how it would take a
much smaller missle to go from the Moon to Mars. That is true but unless your
going to farm rockets on the moon then your going to have to take the rocket
from the earth to get it on the moon.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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15 Jan 2004 08:18:46 PM |
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Tabernacle wrote:
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<v5id00hcb2i9lab9pjqua4oc8v9srbc18d@4ax.com>...
From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
Oh right like this is exactly what we need.
Let us imagine the discussion:
"Boys, the nation's in massive reeling record-breaking debt and
morale's at an all-time low and disposable American soldiers are dying
brutal horrific deaths every day over nothing at all except our greed
and flagrant cronyism and corporate petrochemical profiteering.
"Our cities are gasping and health care is a joke and we've mauled
Medicare beyond recognition, and we're plundering the living hell out
of Social Security, the last remaining stable and sound fund left, to
try and shore up our rapacious and gluttonous spending.
"There are no WMDs and our former allies openly resent us and the poll
ratings are slipping and the big glops of warmongering lies are drying
like blood stains into a carpet. And it's an election year. Damn.
"What's to be done? What could rally a wary country during its time of
humiliated need and force-fed ignorance? What could turn this troubled
nation around in the face of oily corporate war and fiscal gluttony
and environmental savagery?
"Why, neato space stations on the moon, and sending men to Mars,
that's what!"
Yes indeed.
Leave it to BushCo to try and slap an astronomically expensive,
useless balm on the nation's gaping wounds by vainly attempting to
recapture some of that droning faux-'50s and -'60s nostalgia no one
really asked for.
Remember that time?
The "greatest generation"?
A time when white-bread repressed often unhappily married
segregationist America gathered 'round the ol' black-and-white to gaze
in passionate wonder at the images beamed back from the Apollo
landings?
What a time it was.
Don't you want some of that sense of desperate hopefulness back?
Of course you do.
Got $500 billion to pay for it?
Hey, that was the cost estimate for a similar man-on-Mars scheme when
Dubya Sr. proposed it in 1989, just before he was promptly laughed off
the fiscal stage.
Of course, like every obscene BushCo proposal, there was never a
mention of how NASA could ever possibly pay for such a venture, and no
mention of how BushCo could rape the Treasury that much further to
fund random exercises in ridiculous excess.
Oh well.
Look at it this way.
Dubya will, by every account, go down as the worst environmental
president in American history.
He will also be remembered as the most blindly warmongering president
and the least articulate president and the most corporate-shilling
president and the most flagrantly fraudulent and borderline treasonous
president.
And, hence, you can bet your big snakeskin Texas cowboy boots he wants
this "big ol' Mars thingy" to be some sort of, you know, legacy.
He wants his name in the history books as the one who decided to meet
the little green men.
He wants to stick a flag in the rusty planet and claim it in the name
of, you know, Ronald Reagan.
This from a man who never cared a whit for space exploration in his
entire spoon-fed career, a man who never even once visited the famed
Johnson Space Center in Houston while serving as Texas governor.
And you just know half the impulse for this inane new idea is so Shrub
can get himself flown to the space-shuttle launch pad and have his
picture taken in a shiny spacesuit.
How cute.
It's got that reek.
It's got that reek of typical macho Republican election-year BS, the
sort of hollow grandiose chest thumping that stains so many BushCo PR
stunts, all war and guns and rockets and oil and big slabs of
chemically blasted hormone injected semirancid Texas beef
(hey, it's what's for dinner).
Look.
NASA is wonderful.
Space exploration is magnificent and essential and we learn enormous
amounts about ourselves in the process.
The Spirit rover on Mars right now?
Breathtaking.
Astounding new technologies are developed during major NASA missions,
ideas that trickle down into the cultural mainstream and make life, if
not easier, then at least more interesting, or lighter, or thinner, or
edible at temperatures down to minus 450 degrees with a battery pack
that lasts 127 hours and a new infrared extrasensory ink that can be
read by blind comatose monkeys.
Space is good.
But look again.
Our schools are desperate.
The Wal-Mart/SUV mentality is a national cancer.
Basic services nationwide are being starved and shut down as cities
scramble for fiscal scraps.
John Ashcroft still has a job.
The national treasury has been looted and plundered like never before
in American history, toppling from a record surplus to a record
deficit in a little over three years, with 3.1 million newly
unemployed Americans as a bitter kicker.
That tiny blip of an economic "recovery" you keep reading about?
Tell that to your unemployed neighbors.
And it's just shy of appalling that BushCo is suddenly all atwitter
over a massive, impossible, ridiculously expensive scheme to send a
manned mission to Mars, when any 5-year-old could come up with roughly
2,323 more vital and needful areas where such huge sums of money could
be spent.
Can you think of five, just off the top of your head, as you step
around that homeless person?
Damn right you can.
Do we need to recall that sucker-punch $87 bil BushCo reamed through
Congress to help pay for our continued occupation of Iraq, a nation
that doesn't want us and was never a threat to us and that is now
equaling Vietnam in costs, both fiscal and humanitarian?
Does Mars mean we get to bring our troops home and save those
budget-gutting billions and redirect them toward something
progressive?
One guess.
Maybe we should just shrug it off.
Just dismiss it as yet another a silly exercise in political ego and
bogus machismo.
After all, it's all about big dumb gesture, all about trying to cover
up appalling atrocities and insulting policy in an election year --
much like suddenly pretending to care about immigrants, or health
care, or gay rights, when your party defines itself as the world
headquarters of homophobic pro-corporate isolationism.
This is what it boils down to, really: a big joke.
There will be no men on Mars in 2020.
There will be no massive, super-keen space station on the moon anytime
soon.
Even BushCo's own financial advisers openly cringe when the Mumbly One
tosses up such an obvious and impossibly costly PR stunt, one so
clearly designed to instill a false sense of hope and "America rules!"
faux patriotism in a country heavily drugged on fear and false
righteousness.
All well and good, right?
All just silly politics as usual, really, just so much election-year
flatulence from the administration that brought you the New Vietnam.
That is, until you realize who the joke is on.
______________________________________________________
Thanks, once again, go to the inimitable Mark Morford.
Harry
Obviously Little Georgie has seen Star Wars, Space 1999 and Star Trek
one to many times!
Frankly from what I have seen and heard from the experts over the last
few days Harry the cost to do everything he wants to do could easily
hit Three Trillion Dollar Mark!Especially as there are so many new
types of technology that do not now exist(like for example a Single
Stage to Orbit craft) that literally need to be invented from scratch,
anyone of which if it does not come to be could add decades and
billions of $$$ onto any planned base on the Moon or any trip to Mars.
And all this Bull ***** to do something a machine/robot can now do
better,quicker and cheaper!
Lets see,,,,, thanks to the last trips to the moon you can sit in comfort of your home and spew ***** to
the world. I can sit in my home and read your *****. The medical advances since 1970 can be contributed
to what?
http://techtran.msfc.nasa.gov/at_home.html
You liberals want alternative energy sources don't you? This will "Bring em on"
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JimmyD <jrd@starkiller.org> wrote in
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Tabernacle wrote:
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
Oh right like this is exactly what we need.
Let us imagine the discussion:
"Boys, the nation's in massive reeling record-breaking debt and
morale's at an all-time low and disposable American soldiers are
dying brutal horrific deaths every day over nothing at all except
our greed and flagrant cronyism and corporate petrochemical
profiteering.
"Our cities are gasping and health care is a joke and we've mauled
Medicare beyond recognition, and we're plundering the living hell
out of Social Security, the last remaining stable and sound fund
left, to try and shore up our rapacious and gluttonous spending.
"There are no WMDs and our former allies openly resent us and the
poll ratings are slipping and the big glops of warmongering lies
are drying like blood stains into a carpet. And it's an election
year. Damn.
"What's to be done? What could rally a wary country during its time
of humiliated need and force-fed ignorance? What could turn this
troubled nation around in the face of oily corporate war and fiscal
gluttony and environmental savagery?
"Why, neato space stations on the moon, and sending men to Mars,
that's what!"
Yes indeed.
Leave it to BushCo to try and slap an astronomically expensive,
useless balm on the nation's gaping wounds by vainly attempting to
recapture some of that droning faux-'50s and -'60s nostalgia no one
really asked for.
Remember that time?
The "greatest generation"?
A time when white-bread repressed often unhappily married
segregationist America gathered 'round the ol' black-and-white to
gaze in passionate wonder at the images beamed back from the Apollo
landings?
What a time it was.
Don't you want some of that sense of desperate hopefulness back?
Of course you do.
Got $500 billion to pay for it?
Hey, that was the cost estimate for a similar man-on-Mars scheme
when Dubya Sr. proposed it in 1989, just before he was promptly
laughed off the fiscal stage.
Of course, like every obscene BushCo proposal, there was never a
mention of how NASA could ever possibly pay for such a venture, and
no mention of how BushCo could rape the Treasury that much further
to fund random exercises in ridiculous excess.
Oh well.
Look at it this way.
Dubya will, by every account, go down as the worst environmental
president in American history.
He will also be remembered as the most blindly warmongering
president and the least articulate president and the most
corporate-shilling president and the most flagrantly fraudulent and
borderline treasonous president.
And, hence, you can bet your big snakeskin Texas cowboy boots he
wants this "big ol' Mars thingy" to be some sort of, you know,
legacy.
He wants his name in the history books as the one who decided to
meet the little green men.
He wants to stick a flag in the rusty planet and claim it in the
name of, you know, Ronald Reagan.
This from a man who never cared a whit for space exploration in his
entire spoon-fed career, a man who never even once visited the
famed Johnson Space Center in Houston while serving as Texas
governor.
And you just know half the impulse for this inane new idea is so
Shrub can get himself flown to the space-shuttle launch pad and
have his picture taken in a shiny spacesuit.
How cute.
It's got that reek.
It's got that reek of typical macho Republican election-year BS,
the sort of hollow grandiose chest thumping that stains so many
BushCo PR stunts, all war and guns and rockets and oil and big
slabs of chemically blasted hormone injected semirancid Texas beef
(hey, it's what's for dinner).
Look.
NASA is wonderful.
Space exploration is magnificent and essential and we learn
enormous amounts about ourselves in the process.
The Spirit rover on Mars right now?
Breathtaking.
Astounding new technologies are developed during major NASA
missions, ideas that trickle down into the cultural mainstream and
make life, if not easier, then at least more interesting, or
lighter, or thinner, or edible at temperatures down to minus 450
degrees with a battery pack that lasts 127 hours and a new infrared
extrasensory ink that can be read by blind comatose monkeys.
Space is good.
But look again.
Our schools are desperate.
The Wal-Mart/SUV mentality is a national cancer.
Basic services nationwide are being starved and shut down as cities
scramble for fiscal scraps.
John Ashcroft still has a job.
The national treasury has been looted and plundered like never
before in American history, toppling from a record surplus to a
record deficit in a little over three years, with 3.1 million newly
unemployed Americans as a bitter kicker.
That tiny blip of an economic "recovery" you keep reading about?
Tell that to your unemployed neighbors.
And it's just shy of appalling that BushCo is suddenly all atwitter
over a massive, impossible, ridiculously expensive scheme to send a
manned mission to Mars, when any 5-year-old could come up with
roughly 2,323 more vital and needful areas where such huge sums of
money could be spent.
Can you think of five, just off the top of your head, as you step
around that homeless person?
Damn right you can.
Do we need to recall that sucker-punch $87 bil BushCo reamed
through Congress to help pay for our continued occupation of Iraq,
a nation that doesn't want us and was never a threat to us and that
is now equaling Vietnam in costs, both fiscal and humanitarian?
Does Mars mean we get to bring our troops home and save those
budget-gutting billions and redirect them toward something
progressive?
One guess.
Maybe we should just shrug it off.
Just dismiss it as yet another a silly exercise in political ego
and bogus machismo.
After all, it's all about big dumb gesture, all about trying to
cover up appalling atrocities and insulting policy in an election
year -- much like suddenly pretending to care about immigrants, or
health care, or gay rights, when your party defines itself as the
world headquarters of homophobic pro-corporate isolationism.
This is what it boils down to, really: a big joke.
There will be no men on Mars in 2020.
There will be no massive, super-keen space station on the moon
anytime soon.
Even BushCo's own financial advisers openly cringe when the Mumbly
One tosses up such an obvious and impossibly costly PR stunt, one
so clearly designed to instill a false sense of hope and "America
rules!" faux patriotism in a country heavily drugged on fear and
false righteousness.
All well and good, right?
All just silly politics as usual, really, just so much
election-year flatulence from the administration that brought you
the New Vietnam.
That is, until you realize who the joke is on.
______________________________________________________
Thanks, once again, go to the inimitable Mark Morford.
Harry
Obviously Little Georgie has seen Star Wars, Space 1999 and Star Trek
one to many times!
Frankly from what I have seen and heard from the experts over the
last few days Harry the cost to do everything he wants to do could
easily hit Three Trillion Dollar Mark!Especially as there are so many
new types of technology that do not now exist(like for example a
Single Stage to Orbit craft) that literally need to be invented from
scratch, anyone of which if it does not come to be could add decades
and billions of $$$ onto any planned base on the Moon or any trip to
Mars.
And all this Bull ***** to do something a machine/robot can now do
better,quicker and cheaper!
Lets see,,,,, thanks to the last trips to the moon you can sit in
comfort of your home and spew ***** to the world. I can sit in my
home and read your *****. The medical advances since 1970 can be
contributed to what?
http://techtran.msfc.nasa.gov/at_home.html
You liberals want alternative energy sources don't you? This will
"Bring em on"
The medical advances since 1970 are thanks to a good education system
from 1950-1970. Very few medical advances came from space. More came from
the Vietnam war than NASA.
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| Title: Re: Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet little green men. The nation cringes |
16 Jan 2004 05:21:19 AM |
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JimmyD <jrd@starkiller.org> wrote in message news:<40074A06.AF7D069E@starkiller.org>...
Tabernacle wrote:
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:<v5id00hcb2i9lab9pjqua4oc8v9srbc18d@4ax.com>...
From The San Francisco Gate, 1/15/04:
http://sfgate.com/columnists/morford/
Mars Needs Dim Republicans
Dubya dons a shiny spacesuit, dreams of spending billions to meet
little green men.
The nation cringes
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist
Wednesday, January 14, 2004
< snip >
Frankly from what I have seen and heard from the experts over the last
few days Harry the cost to do everything he wants to do could easily
hit Three Trillion Dollar Mark!Especially as there are so many new
types of technology that do not now exist(like for example a Single
Stage to Orbit craft) that literally need to be invented from scratch,
anyone of which if it does not come to be could add decades and
billions of $$$ onto any planned base on the Moon or any trip to Mars.
And all this Bull ***** to do something a machine/robot can now do
better,quicker and cheaper!
Lets see,,,,, thanks to the last trips to the moon you can sit in comfort of your home and spew ***** to
the world. I can sit in my home and read your *****. The medical advances since 1970 can be contributed
to what?
http://techtran.msfc.nasa.gov/at_home.html
You liberals want alternative energy sources don't you? This will "Bring em on"
The only thing Dubya and you other NeoCONartists have Bought On in
three years is BULL ***** and LIES LIES LIES!
FYI most of the advances in electronics used in the moon landings was
already being used (or in the pipeline to be used) by unmanned landers
that had landed on the moon years before man did!
In fact the only reason we went to the moon in the end was because we
thought that the Commies were going to go, and so what it boiled down
to in the end is that we won a Pissing Contest!
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