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From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html

Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate
By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST
The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.
For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.
Are there more jobs just around the corner?
This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.
The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.
Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.
Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.
There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.
How bad is it?
The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."
John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.
"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."
The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.
The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.
It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.
Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.
And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.
When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.
That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.
Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.
Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.
There is not even a sense of urgency.
At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.
But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.
The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.
On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.
Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.
Hiring, of course, is down.
Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.
And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.
Working Americans need jobs just to survive.
But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.
There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.
But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.
______________________________________________
Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.
Harry
.

User: "Easy Rider"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 01:04:08 PM
Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
news:i6n7jv8mrhcu21j3lub3htpj92v9m1d3kj@4ax.com:


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

This has been the republican plan since Goldwater - if not longer. Bleed
federal coffers until there is nothing left to fund public programs and
convert the lower and middle classes into virtual slave labor. Then lock
yourself into your gated communities with private security and private
schools for your kids (funded in large part with kickbacks from the
government in the form of vouchers). If Hitler had lived to see it, he'd
be in hog heaven.
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on —
shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
—George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"Don't be fooled again"
-Me, August 1, 2003.
.

User: "Geo"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 12:49:42 PM
Harry Hope wrote:


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."

The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.

The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.

It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.

Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.

And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.

When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.

That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.

Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.

Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.

There is not even a sense of urgency.

At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.

But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.

The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.

On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.

Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.

Hiring, of course, is down.

Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.

And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.

Working Americans need jobs just to survive.

But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.

There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.

But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.

______________________________________________

Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.

Harry

Bob Herbert...New York Times...Nuff said.
.
User: "Easy Rider"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 01:04:39 PM
Geo <Geo@sdf.com> wrote in news:3F33E2B6.50804@sdf.com:

Bob Herbert...New York Times...Nuff said.


This is a truly pathetic response.
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on —
shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
—George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"Don't be fooled again"
-Me, August 1, 2003.
.
User: "Geo"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 01:11:37 PM
Easy Rider wrote:

Geo <Geo@sdf.com> wrote in news:3F33E2B6.50804@sdf.com:



Bob Herbert...New York Times...Nuff said.



This is a truly pathetic response.

No, pathertic describes your other response to Hairy.




.


User: "Lou Scannon"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 10 Aug 2003 11:56:56 AM
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:49:42 -0400, Geo <Geo@sdf.com> wrote:



Harry Hope wrote:


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."

The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.

The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.

It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.

Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.

And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.

When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.

That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.

Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.

Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.

There is not even a sense of urgency.

At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.

But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.

The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.

On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.

Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.

Hiring, of course, is down.

Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.

And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.

Working Americans need jobs just to survive.

But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.

There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.

But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.

______________________________________________

Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.

Harry


Bob Herbert...New York Times...Nuff said.

Yeah, reality hurts don't it , Fatboy?
"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand
by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the
degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to
support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is
unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency
or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either
event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the
president or anyone else."
~ Theodore Roosevelt
.
User: "Tempest"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 10 Aug 2003 01:24:12 PM
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:49:42 -0400, Geo <Geo@sdf.com> wrote:




Harry Hope wrote:


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."

The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.

The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.

It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.

Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.

And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.

When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.

That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.

Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.

Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.

There is not even a sense of urgency.

At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.

But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.

The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.

On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.

Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.

Hiring, of course, is down.

Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.

And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.

Working Americans need jobs just to survive.

But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.

There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.

But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.

______________________________________________

Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.

Harry


Bob Herbert...New York Times...Nuff said.

Why? Because he's black?
Are you a racist like Thurmond and Lott?
--
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or
religion but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence.
Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do."
Samuel P. Huntington
.



User: "."

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 01:08:21 PM
Unemployment rates are on the way down. Give it a few more months. Its
hard to fix the mess Clinton created in 8 years in 3, but somehow Bush is
close to that dream.
"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6n7jv8mrhcu21j3lub3htpj92v9m1d3kj@4ax.com...


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."

The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.

The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.

It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.

Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.

And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.

When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.

That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.

Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.

Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.

There is not even a sense of urgency.

At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.

But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.

The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.

On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.

Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.

Hiring, of course, is down.

Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.

And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.

Working Americans need jobs just to survive.

But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.

There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.

But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.

______________________________________________

Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.

Harry

.
User: "Easy Rider"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 01:19:59 PM
"." <test@test.com> wrote in news:kDRYa.36926$Ij2.1150
@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com:

Unemployment rates are on the way down. Give it a few more months. Its
hard to fix the mess Clinton created in 8 years in 3, but somehow Bush is
close to that dream.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, long-term unemployment in the US is at its
highest level ever in history - and more than 250% higher than when Bush
took office. The US economy has lost in excess of 3 million jobs in that
same time. Strangely though, the "small government" of "fiscally
responsible" George Bush has added more than 500,000 new jobs - and that
does include the airport security jobs which have been transferred to
federal oversight.
--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on —
shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
—George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
"Don't be fooled again"
-Me, August 1, 2003.
.
User: "r_c_brown"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 06:59:03 PM
Easy Rider <bio_dude@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93D191CD442FDbiodudehotmailcom@130.133.1.4>...

"." <test@test.com> wrote in news:kDRYa.36926$Ij2.1150
@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com:

Unemployment rates are on the way down. Give it a few more months. Its
hard to fix the mess Clinton created in 8 years in 3, but somehow Bush is
close to that dream.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, long-term unemployment in the US is at its
highest level ever in history - and more than 250% higher than when Bush
took office. The US economy has lost in excess of 3 million jobs in that
same time. Strangely though, the "small government" of "fiscally
responsible" George Bush has added more than 500,000 new jobs - and that
does include the airport security jobs which have been transferred to
federal oversight.

From: http://www.bls.gov/
Unemployment in Jan 2001: 4.7%
Unemployment in Jul 2003: 6.2%
Employment-population ratio Jan 2001: 64.4%
Employment-population ratio Jul 2003: 62.1%
Civilian labor force participation rate Jan 2001: 67.2%
Civilian labor force participation rate Jul 2003: 66.2%
Yes, things are lousy. However, it's not the Great Depression, when
unemployment rates reached 25%.



--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee ? I know it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee ? that says, fool me once, shame on ?
shame on you. Fool me ? you can't get fooled again."

?George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

"Don't be fooled again"
-Me, August 1, 2003.

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User: "Gene"

Title: Re: Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate 08 Aug 2003 02:04:52 PM
"." <test@test.com> wrote in news:kDRYa.36926$Ij2.1150
@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com:
Republicans have a form of dyslexia that causes them to see everything in
reverse. I am working on a 3 foot suppository to fix this condition and
hope to have it on Walmart shelves this year. Until then the standard
treatment of putting your head up you ***** will suffice.

Unemployment rates are on the way down. Give it a few more months.

Its

hard to fix the mess Clinton created in 8 years in 3, but somehow Bush

is

close to that dream.

"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:i6n7jv8mrhcu21j3lub3htpj92v9m1d3kj@4ax.com...


From The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, 8/8/03:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/134130_herbert08.html


Employment situation even worse than numbers indicate

By BOB HERBERT
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

The folks who put the voodoo back in economics keep telling us that
prosperity is just around the corner.

For the unemployed, that would mean more jobs.

Are there more jobs just around the corner?

This alleged economic upturn is not just a jobless recovery, it's a
job loss recovery.

The hemorrhaging of jobs in the aftermath of the recent "mild"
recession is like nothing the United States has seen in more than half
a century.

Millions continue to look desperately for work, and millions more have
given up in despair.

Stories have been rolling in for some time about the stresses and
misfortunes that are inevitably associated with long-term joblessness:
the bankruptcies, foreclosures and evictions, the dreams deferred, the
mental difficulties -- anxiety, depression -- the excessive drinking
and abuse of drugs, the family violence.

There are few things more miserable than to need a job and be unable
to find one.

How bad is it?

The Economic Policy Institute in Washington reported last week that
"since the business cycle expansion began in November 2001, payrolls
have contracted by 1 million (1.2 million in the private sector),
making this the weakest recovery in terms of employment since the
[Bureau of Labor Statistics] began tracking monthly data in 1939."

John A. Challenger, who runs the outplacement firm Challenger, Gray &
Christmas, said it is taking an average of 20 weeks for job seekers to
find employment, and many are unable to match their previous salary.
"Employers have all the cards," he said.

"Not only are they sharpening their salary pencils, but the screening
of candidates is probably the toughest it has ever been."

The official jobless rate, now 6.2 percent, does not come close to
reflecting how grim the employment situation really is.

The official rate refers only to those actively seeking work.

It does not count the "discouraged" workers, who have looked for jobs
within the past 12 months but have given up because of the lack of
offers.

Then there are the involuntary part timers, who would like full-time
jobs but cannot find them.

And there are people who have had to settle for jobs that pay
significantly less than jobs they once held.

When you combine the unemployed and the underemployed, you are talking
about a percentage of the work force that is in double digits.

That's an awful lot of lost purchasing power for a society that needs
broad-based wage growth among its consumers to remain economically
viable.

Most Americans depend on their paychecks to get from one week to the
next. If you cut off that paycheck, everything tends to go haywire.

Right now there is no plan, no strategy for turning this employment
crisis around.

There is not even a sense of urgency.

At the end of July the Bush administration sent its secretaries of
commerce, labor and treasury on a bus tour of Wisconsin and Minnesota
to tell workers that better days are coming.

But they offered no real remedies, and the president himself went on a
monthlong vacation.

The simple truth is that the interests of the Bush administration's
primary constituency, corporate America, do not coincide with the
fundamental interests of workaday Americans.

On the business side of this divide, increased profits are realized by
showing the door to as many workers as possible, and squeezing the
remainder to the bursting point.

Productivity (based primarily on improvements in technology) is way
up.

Hiring, of course, is down.

Part-time and temporary workers are in; full-time workers with
benefits are out.

And then there's the ominous trend of sending higher-skilled jobs
overseas to such low-wage places as India and China, an upscale
reprise of the sweatshop phenomenon that erased so many U.S.
manufacturing jobs over the past quarter-century.

Working Americans need jobs just to survive.

But the Bush administration equates the national interest with
corporate interests, and in that equation workers can only lose.

There are ways to spark the creation of good jobs on a large scale in
the United States.

But that would require vision, a long-term financial investment and a
commitment at the federal level to the idea that it is truly in the
nation's interest to keep as many Americans as possible gainfully
employed.

______________________________________________

Georgie must be workin' hard down at the ranch, tryin' to come up with
answers for the unemployed. Well what else would he be doin' on
vacation for 35 days? Don't answer that.

Harry





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