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30 Jan 2006 12:01:42 PM |
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Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act" |
Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act"
True Patriotism is Demonstrated Through Service
by Dave Christner
As a veteran, nothing offends me more than to see a politician pull on
a flight jacket, combat fatigues or a ball cap emblazoned with the symbol of
some legitimate military organization and mingle with young men and women
serving our country in a war zone. Vice President ***** Cheney recently
played out the Bush administration's version of this "patriot act" by
joining the troops in Baghdad to drum up support for our misadventure in
Iraq.
Cheney's act gets no rave review in my book. His act of patriotism has
little substance and no historical justification. This is the same Cheney
who in 1989 told The Washington Post, in explaining his avoidance of the
draft during the Vietnam era: "I had other priorities in the '60s than
military service." So did I. So did, I have no doubt, the 55,000-plus young
patriots who gave their lives in Vietnam.
I cannot help but think that if Cheney were 20 years old today, the
last place on this planet that either he or George W. Bush would be is in
Iraq. Even so, there he is, a man a step away from being commander-in-chief,
sitting down to a Halliburton-provided meal with some true patriots and
urging them to sacrifice their young lives for Iraqi freedom and
Halliburton's bottom line. How ironic is it that Cheney is sequestered
safely within the fortifications of the Green Zone in besieged Baghdad?
Just how green the Tigris and Euphrates River Valleys have been for
Halliburton and Cheney remains a matter of some conjecture. In 2003, Cheney
stated on NBC's "Meet the Press": "I have no financial interest in
Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years." Without
boring you with the details, let me say that it has been verified that
Cheney's statement was not entirely true.
As we are all well aware, Cheney also claimed that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction. This did not turn out to be true
either. Now, while I don't want to accuse the vice president of being a
liar, I would advise him if he were the protagonist in Pinocchio to steer
clear of any lumber companies in the great Northwest. Cheney should instead
concentrate more fully on the facts in Iraq. While it is highly unlikely
that he would risk life or limb for Iraqi freedom, he is more than willing
to sacrifice your sons and daughters to fulfill the administration's
pipedream of democracy in the Mideast. Lyndon Johnson had a similar dream
for Southeast Asia; that too turned into a nightmare. But not just for him.
The drums of Washington's Beltway warriors sound all too familiar; in
my case the call was to defend the freedom of the people of South Vietnam
from the red peril; or was it that we were defending ourselves from the
yellow peril? Or were the North Vietnamese defending themselves from the
white peril? I don't recall. I just know it was a perilous world we lived
in, and if Vietnam fell, so too would Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and all the
rest, like dominoes. That theory, I'm sorry to say, is alive and well today
in the Mideast. If Iraq falls, so too will Iran, Lebanon, Syria, etc.
Dominoes déjà vu. The beat goes on.
How many times have we heard that Iraq is not like Vietnam? I agree;
it's not. It's much worse. And the guys who got us in there have no idea of
how to get us out. This administration cannot comprehend that democracy is a
process; it cannot be imposed on another country by military force. The will
of the people must provide the foundation for a democratic government; the
people who want it must be as willing to die for it as the people who so
vehemently oppose it. We cannot do the killing and the dying for Iraqi
freedom; Iraqi patriots must do it for themselves.
Our failure in Vietnam was inevitable because we did not have the
support of the people. When we pulled out of Vietnam under the Nixon
administration's banner of "Peace with Honor," we left South Vietnam with a
well trained and well equipped, albeit poorly led, army. However, that army,
that government, did not have the support of the people. Did we learn
nothing from the fall of Saigon in 1975? Did the loss of 55,000-plus
American and millions of Vietnamese lives teach us nothing? Are elections
supervised by an occupying army truly democratic?
One can already sense, in spite of the spin by Bush administration,
that their resolve to stay the course in Iraq is weakening. This month,
Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld announced that a gradual reduction in force
levels would begin immediately. These cuts are more the result of politics
that military success in Iraq. Because of political pressure and unrest at
home, the administration is looking for a way out that can somehow justify
to the wives and parents and children and husbands of American casualties
that their lives were not wasted. Bush's admission that his decision to go
to war was based on faulty intelligence in no way diminishes his poor
judgment; nor does it excuse the senseless loss of life - military and
civilian, American and Iraqi. This administration will never - indeed it
cannot - admit that invading Iraq was a horrible mistake. This war has made
neither Iraq nor our country safer; Bush's lack of foresight has only
strengthened the resolve of our enemies.
But what's a president to do? Tell the families of the causalities
that he made a mistake? No way. Not with his legacy at risk. Bush wants to
pawn his failure and bad judgment in Iraq off on the next administration; he
and Cheney want to be let off the hook for the causalities suffered in Iraq.
That way, their patriot act might be recorded more favorably by historians.
This country had a revolution because the people would no longer
tolerate the abuses of King George. That is how the world works; that is how
a democracy is born; democracy is not imposed at gunpoint by an occupying
army. Political change must come from within, not from without. And the
Iraqi people will never be truly free until they are free from us as well as
their own history.
That having been said, I still urge those young Americans of both
parties who support the war to become patriots rather than just give lip
service to the Iraqi cause-enlist, get a commission, sign up for the
National Guard. Then if you enter politics at some time in the future, you
can run on your military record rather than from it. You'll be able to sit
down with your troops in a war zone knowing you're one of them; you won't
have to fabricate a patriot act because you will have already demonstrated
your patriotism through service.
Dave Christner is a Newport, R.I., playwright. He fought in Vietnam
aboard the USS Carronade from 1966-1969. He was awarded the Navy
Commendation Medal with a combat V, a Gold Star in lieu of a second Navy
Commendation Medal, and a Combat Action Ribbon. Christner is also the author
of an award-winning trilogy of Vietnam plays. His newest play, "Free Shot,"
will premiere in Broomfield in May.
Copyright © 2006 The Daily Camera and Boulder Publishing, LLC
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| User: "george" |
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| Title: Re: Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act" <---- see liberal traitor lie! |
30 Jan 2006 12:39:44 PM |
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"We now have the ability to put remote control cameras on the surface of
Mars. Why should we allow enemies to annihilate us simply because we lack
the clarity or resolve to strike a reasonable balance between a healthy
skepticism of government power and the need to take proactive measures to
protect ourselves from such threats? The mantra of civil-liberties
hard-liners is to "question authority"--even when it is coming to our
rescue--then blame that same authority when, hamstrung by civil liberties
laws, it fails to save us. The old laws that would prevent FBI agents from
stopping the next al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi were built on the bedrock of a
35-year history of dark, defeating mistrust. More Americans should not die
because the peace-at-any-cost fringe and antigovernment paranoids still
fighting the ghost of Nixon hate George Bush more than they fear al Qaeda.
Ask the American people what they want. They will say that they want the
commander in chief to use all reasonable means to catch the people who are
trying to rain terror on our cities. Those who cite the soaring principle of
individual liberty do not appear to appreciate that our enemies are not
seeking to destroy individuals, but whole populations."
[Debra Burlingame, "Our Right to Security: Al Qaeda, not the FBI, is the
greater threat to America," 1/30/06,
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007891 ]
You, "See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net>, are a liar, and a terrorist
propagandist. You're a traitor bent on helping our deadliest enemies. You
deserve a cell on death row.
18 USC 2381.
"See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net> wrote in message
news:awsDf.20535$Jd.6304@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act"
True Patriotism is Demonstrated Through Service
by Dave Christner
As a veteran, nothing offends me more than to see a politician pull
on a flight jacket, combat fatigues or a ball cap emblazoned with the
symbol of some legitimate military organization and mingle with young men
and women serving our country in a war zone. Vice President ***** Cheney
recently played out the Bush administration's version of this "patriot
act" by joining the troops in Baghdad to drum up support for our
misadventure in Iraq.
Cheney's act gets no rave review in my book. His act of patriotism
has little substance and no historical justification. This is the same
Cheney who in 1989 told The Washington Post, in explaining his avoidance
of the draft during the Vietnam era: "I had other priorities in the '60s
than military service." So did I. So did, I have no doubt, the 55,000-plus
young patriots who gave their lives in Vietnam.
I cannot help but think that if Cheney were 20 years old today, the
last place on this planet that either he or George W. Bush would be is in
Iraq. Even so, there he is, a man a step away from being
commander-in-chief, sitting down to a Halliburton-provided meal with some
true patriots and urging them to sacrifice their young lives for Iraqi
freedom and Halliburton's bottom line. How ironic is it that Cheney is
sequestered safely within the fortifications of the Green Zone in besieged
Baghdad?
Just how green the Tigris and Euphrates River Valleys have been for
Halliburton and Cheney remains a matter of some conjecture. In 2003,
Cheney stated on NBC's "Meet the Press": "I have no financial interest in
Halliburton of any kind and haven't had, now, for over three years."
Without boring you with the details, let me say that it has been verified
that Cheney's statement was not entirely true.
As we are all well aware, Cheney also claimed that Saddam Hussein
possessed weapons of mass destruction. This did not turn out to be true
either. Now, while I don't want to accuse the vice president of being a
liar, I would advise him if he were the protagonist in Pinocchio to steer
clear of any lumber companies in the great Northwest. Cheney should
instead concentrate more fully on the facts in Iraq. While it is highly
unlikely that he would risk life or limb for Iraqi freedom, he is more
than willing to sacrifice your sons and daughters to fulfill the
administration's pipedream of democracy in the Mideast. Lyndon Johnson had
a similar dream for Southeast Asia; that too turned into a nightmare. But
not just for him.
The drums of Washington's Beltway warriors sound all too familiar; in
my case the call was to defend the freedom of the people of South Vietnam
from the red peril; or was it that we were defending ourselves from the
yellow peril? Or were the North Vietnamese defending themselves from the
white peril? I don't recall. I just know it was a perilous world we lived
in, and if Vietnam fell, so too would Cambodia, Laos, Thailand and all the
rest, like dominoes. That theory, I'm sorry to say, is alive and well
today in the Mideast. If Iraq falls, so too will Iran, Lebanon, Syria,
etc. Dominoes déjà vu. The beat goes on.
How many times have we heard that Iraq is not like Vietnam? I agree;
it's not. It's much worse. And the guys who got us in there have no idea
of how to get us out. This administration cannot comprehend that democracy
is a process; it cannot be imposed on another country by military force.
The will of the people must provide the foundation for a democratic
government; the people who want it must be as willing to die for it as the
people who so vehemently oppose it. We cannot do the killing and the dying
for Iraqi freedom; Iraqi patriots must do it for themselves.
Our failure in Vietnam was inevitable because we did not have the
support of the people. When we pulled out of Vietnam under the Nixon
administration's banner of "Peace with Honor," we left South Vietnam with
a well trained and well equipped, albeit poorly led, army. However, that
army, that government, did not have the support of the people. Did we
learn nothing from the fall of Saigon in 1975? Did the loss of 55,000-plus
American and millions of Vietnamese lives teach us nothing? Are elections
supervised by an occupying army truly democratic?
One can already sense, in spite of the spin by Bush administration,
that their resolve to stay the course in Iraq is weakening. This month,
Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld announced that a gradual reduction in force
levels would begin immediately. These cuts are more the result of politics
that military success in Iraq. Because of political pressure and unrest at
home, the administration is looking for a way out that can somehow justify
to the wives and parents and children and husbands of American casualties
that their lives were not wasted. Bush's admission that his decision to go
to war was based on faulty intelligence in no way diminishes his poor
judgment; nor does it excuse the senseless loss of life - military and
civilian, American and Iraqi. This administration will never - indeed it
cannot - admit that invading Iraq was a horrible mistake. This war has
made neither Iraq nor our country safer; Bush's lack of foresight has only
strengthened the resolve of our enemies.
But what's a president to do? Tell the families of the causalities
that he made a mistake? No way. Not with his legacy at risk. Bush wants to
pawn his failure and bad judgment in Iraq off on the next administration;
he and Cheney want to be let off the hook for the causalities suffered in
Iraq. That way, their patriot act might be recorded more favorably by
historians.
This country had a revolution because the people would no longer
tolerate the abuses of King George. That is how the world works; that is
how a democracy is born; democracy is not imposed at gunpoint by an
occupying army. Political change must come from within, not from without.
And the Iraqi people will never be truly free until they are free from us
as well as their own history.
That having been said, I still urge those young Americans of both
parties who support the war to become patriots rather than just give lip
service to the Iraqi cause-enlist, get a commission, sign up for the
National Guard. Then if you enter politics at some time in the future, you
can run on your military record rather than from it. You'll be able to sit
down with your troops in a war zone knowing you're one of them; you won't
have to fabricate a patriot act because you will have already demonstrated
your patriotism through service.
Dave Christner is a Newport, R.I., playwright. He fought in Vietnam
aboard the USS Carronade from 1966-1969. He was awarded the Navy
Commendation Medal with a combat V, a Gold Star in lieu of a second Navy
Commendation Medal, and a Combat Action Ribbon. Christner is also the
author of an award-winning trilogy of Vietnam plays. His newest play,
"Free Shot," will premiere in Broomfield in May.
Copyright © 2006 The Daily Camera and Boulder Publishing, LLC
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| Title: Re: Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act" <---- see liberal traitor lie! |
30 Jan 2006 01:00:51 PM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
news:drlmhk$mr7$0@pita.alt.net...
"We now have the ability to put remote control cameras on the surface of
Mars. Why should we allow enemies to annihilate us simply because we lack
the clarity or resolve to strike a reasonable balance between a healthy
skepticism of government power and the need to take proactive measures to
protect ourselves from such threats? The mantra of civil-liberties
hard-liners is to "question authority"--even when it is coming to our
rescue--then blame that same authority when, hamstrung by civil liberties
laws, it fails to save us. The old laws that would prevent FBI agents from
stopping the next al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi were built on the bedrock of a
35-year history of dark, defeating mistrust. More Americans should not die
because the peace-at-any-cost fringe and antigovernment paranoids still
fighting the ghost of Nixon hate George Bush more than they fear al Qaeda.
Ask the American people what they want. They will say that they want the
commander in chief to use all reasonable means to catch the people who are
trying to rain terror on our cities. Those who cite the soaring principle
of individual liberty do not appear to appreciate that our enemies are not
seeking to destroy individuals, but whole populations."
[Debra Burlingame, "Our Right to Security: Al Qaeda, not the FBI, is the
greater threat to America," 1/30/06,
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007891 ]
You, "See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net>, are a liar, and a terrorist
propagandist. You're a traitor bent on helping our deadliest enemies.
You deserve a cell on death row.
You George are a US hater.
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| User: "george" |
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| Title: Re: Enough of the Bush "Patriot Act" <---- see liberal traitor lie! |
01 Feb 2006 01:33:20 AM |
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"See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net> wrote in message
news:DntDf.5597$2O6.4648@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
news:drlmhk$mr7$0@pita.alt.net...
"We now have the ability to put remote control cameras on the surface of
Mars. Why should we allow enemies to annihilate us simply because we lack
the clarity or resolve to strike a reasonable balance between a healthy
skepticism of government power and the need to take proactive measures to
protect ourselves from such threats? The mantra of civil-liberties
hard-liners is to "question authority"--even when it is coming to our
rescue--then blame that same authority when, hamstrung by civil liberties
laws, it fails to save us. The old laws that would prevent FBI agents
from stopping the next al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi were built on the bedrock
of a 35-year history of dark, defeating mistrust. More Americans should
not die because the peace-at-any-cost fringe and antigovernment paranoids
still fighting the ghost of Nixon hate George Bush more than they fear al
Qaeda. Ask the American people what they want. They will say that they
want the commander in chief to use all reasonable means to catch the
people who are trying to rain terror on our cities. Those who cite the
soaring principle of individual liberty do not appear to appreciate that
our enemies are not seeking to destroy individuals, but whole
populations."
[Debra Burlingame, "Our Right to Security: Al Qaeda, not the FBI, is the
greater threat to America," 1/30/06,
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007891 ]
You, "See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net>, are a liar, and a terrorist
propagandist. You're a traitor bent on helping our deadliest enemies.
You deserve a cell on death row.
You George are a US hater.
YOU are an Al Qaeda supporter and propagandist.
18 USC 2381.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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01 Feb 2006 02:39:43 PM |
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"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
news:drpo82$83t$0@pita.alt.net...
"See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net> wrote in message
news:DntDf.5597$2O6.4648@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
"george" <nospam@libby-dem-buttkicker.com> wrote in message
news:drlmhk$mr7$0@pita.alt.net...
"We now have the ability to put remote control cameras on the surface
of
Mars. Why should we allow enemies to annihilate us simply because we
lack
the clarity or resolve to strike a reasonable balance between a healthy
skepticism of government power and the need to take proactive measures
to
protect ourselves from such threats? The mantra of civil-liberties
hard-liners is to "question authority"--even when it is coming to our
rescue--then blame that same authority when, hamstrung by civil
liberties
laws, it fails to save us. The old laws that would prevent FBI agents
from stopping the next al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi were built on the
bedrock
of a 35-year history of dark, defeating mistrust. More Americans should
not die because the peace-at-any-cost fringe and antigovernment
paranoids
still fighting the ghost of Nixon hate George Bush more than they fear
al
Qaeda. Ask the American people what they want. They will say that they
want the commander in chief to use all reasonable means to catch the
people who are trying to rain terror on our cities. Those who cite the
soaring principle of individual liberty do not appear to appreciate
that
our enemies are not seeking to destroy individuals, but whole
populations."
[Debra Burlingame, "Our Right to Security: Al Qaeda, not the FBI, is
the
greater threat to America," 1/30/06,
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110007891 ]
You, "See This Now!" <noir@antiheart.net>, are a liar, and a terrorist
propagandist. You're a traitor bent on helping our deadliest enemies.
You deserve a cell on death row.
You George are a US hater.
YOU are an Al Qaeda supporter and propagandist.
18 USC 2381.
You are both idiots.
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