This is long:
Many US people are lied to and being poisoned. Read the latest EPA report on
pollution? Many people are dying prematurely. While the happy news is paid
off . What a world. people are dying from pollution and they talk about a
recall for some toy.and most press ignore it. lol
Most people don't realize that stocks are run by market makers and they can
wipe you out. Your not only going against shorts , and the tide of the
markets but also on how well the company is doing and against insiders and
finally and most important against market makers. Most people lose at
markets. It use to be you invest and leave it there. Not now, today the
market makers can take it down however low , often times double digit
percentages in one day, so if your not looking out for your investment it
can vanish in ten minutes literally. So theoretically you can win but not in
reality. They can say people are making allot in the markets but its not
true: Put another way I am sure
most people lost money even in last year. What happens stocks drop 90
percent in two days and spend the entire year going up slowly to approach
that lost then they say markets are making people rich. What a joke. Even
then most stocks are not even close to where they use to be. The list is
long
The idea that our President wants to put your money in the markets is not
good! Not only should we not invest our SS money in markets,we need a
Congressional investigation on the real chances of overwhelming failure
investing in the markets bring.
Please pass this to as many people as you can
Someone once asked me how do I protect myself or make money in the
markets
and when will my stock go up? I told them its a set up and you can't
almost mathematically win. Why because your
never
going to be at the right place long enough to know how the company or
stock is going to react because Market Makers take
your
money especially big money no matter where you go by going opposite
you Long or short. There are thousands
of
stocks so they can easily do it to you while others go up and the
market
can
suggest stocks are going up while your investment is not. We are
living
in
one fraud.The bottom line is
your
going to lose if you put big money long or short in the markets cause
in the end
market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system . I
am saying you can't do
it
consistently (win at stocks). I got to admit I wasn't even sure what I
was
dealing with at first, but then realized after a while this was the most
extra ordinary set up in the USA and I am sure most people have no clue
how
its a set up. I am sure I can't even explain the exact method only I do
know
the drift of it. After allot of trades this dose of realism sunk in and
its
about as scary as any belief I ever had about markets or our govt.
Suffice
to say if the goal is to take your money then MMs have a ticket to steal
and manipulate until you lose. Not If, but until you do. If something
happens to me I ask you to learn what I am saying
and
don't invest UNLESS you like to lose or unless your part of a company
and know how good the company is doing.(
stock. If your a legislature or aid or lawyer and want to use what I
say
in
a court to promote change, please leave your number and I will prove who
I am
So when someone says how do I know to stay in a stock? This was my answer:
You will have to ask the people who monitor the
action
( if enough people leave your stock maybe your stock will go up, if
not the MMs keep taking the longs) Same
for every stock long or short in USA. Sure it has something to do with
the
success of the
company but they bring these stocks up and down in TEN SECONDS and
watch
to see who follows so they can then take them down next .So they not
only take up the stock where you
sold real fast so they are the only ones making the difference, they noti
ce who then gets in and for how much so they can begin the process all over
again.
Basically if your long you might have to endear five months of
losing,but the bottom line is then the MM have the freedom to go oppposite
you until you lose again.
..Its happened to
countless of
people. You have to in fact guess the momentum of the company and the
MM at the same time, almost impossible to successly do , especially
consistently. The Markert makers know which way you went and thus can't
lose. The incredible thing is, they
can
call this a free market system.
This is not a free market system. I want everyone to read
what
I wrote and tell your relatives cause this is one big set up. Sure you
win
sometimes but most of the time your betting against a lock, a group of
people who will take your opposite position till you lose. Its total
insaneness. I urge you to reevaluate your opinions of the markets
.let me ask you all, do you see people proclaiming that I just bought
a
home or car with my winnings and proved it with photos of the Irs
form?
Of
course not, because its all bogus. You will see a pump that this
stock
is
starting to rise but once you get in there, it tanks. Over and Over
and
Over
again. You don't see people saying I made a fortune , you only hear
I
should
have , " you were right" , and only if I invested" . Why? because
your never going
to
be
at the right place long enough because Market Makers take your money
especially big money no matter where you go. There are thousands of
stocks
so they can easily evaluate the action on each stock and manipulate
it the opposite way till you sell if long or if short, you are squeezed. .
Your going to lose if you put big money long or short in the end cause
market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system?
NOT
Which stock will stop going up as soon as you get in? Answer, if
you
have
50k in one stock, chances are 90 percent the stock will
automatically
stop
going up once your money goes in or shortly thereafter. Seems like
a
contradiction aye since when you buy that should add to the price
WRONGO,
not in America, because all the bells and whistles go off to the
rich
that
says its time to bring his or her money down so we can take out
the
difference. You think not? Try it. real life number 2. Your at the
track
and
decide you love this horse you have been following for two years
and
you
even know the trainer. You put down 1 grand on the horse and low
and
behold
the horse loses, by chance? not Any sum greater then 500 dollars
on
a
horse
is likely to lose much more then the general odds would indicate
because
your money showed up .
Usa has some big big problems, lets deal with them: The biggest
fix
or
mainpulation in the history of the usa which continues as
status
quo
is
the
trading of stocks I believe.
While top one percent keeps getting a bigger total share of
the
pie
like
60
percent from 38 percent a few decades ago, it still doesn't
seem
enough
to
people in sec and exchanges. Before we profess to spread
democracy
we
have
got to own up to many problems, including polarization,
political
corruption
in almost every state and the amount of money needed to run a
viable
election which leaves at least 90 percent of Americans
out
of
this
so
called democratic process we call a free election,,,,what a
freaking
joke!
At least John McCain has a clue. . If to get
elected to a major office you need huge sums of money who are
we
kidding
when we call this freedom? Is it freedom to attain unlimited
wealth
and
undermind everything else as the rich getting more and more
percent
of
wealth? Where big companies just keep buying up smaller ones? >
.
The
stock exchange is raped
by MarketMakerss where sec puts laws in place that guarantees
your
investment loss to insiders and Market Makers.Now stocks are
nothing
more
then a tool to take your money , not invest in. .Where Market
makers
take
the
stock down as far as need be just to get you to sell, or take
out
a
stop
order then takes the stock up and gets the difference. They
pump
it
up
( the price of stock) when your not in it and then after you join
they
dump
it . sometimes over and over depending on how much money they can
make.
The
more they make the more they are able to keep doing it. Ultimately
its
the
keys to the vault. Fantom investors are the only one who gets
into
plus
column, as the trading in stocks is ONE GIANT SHELL and ponzi
scheme..
If you get into a stock with big money, this signals for
brokers
or
standards and poors or newsmedia to find news that will get it
to
go
down
often enough.
Manipulation and losses is basically what the market is about.
When
most
people invested in Kmart , airlines or even defense stocks,
thats
when
they
went down. After K mart goes bankrupt it soars on no news as
just
one
example and of course
when no one was invested. Another example a stock wiill be at
record
lows
with months of losing longs and low prices and then in one hour in
one
day
the stock makes up all the loses . Why because the longs have sold
and
the
market makers made the difference and so the longs end up saying "
I
should
have invested" where they can never make up that amount back cause
the
market makers did it for them . Over and over you will see your
stock
that
you just
got out of soar and if you stay in the stock stays dead. Ponzi
scheme.
This
is like Yukos tens time over ongoing..
500 trades, 500 losses so while you might see the market go up
,
chances
are its not your big money that keeps going up. . The more you
invest,
the
more chance the stock goes
down or horse loses if your gambling at track. This is the
most
manipulated
investment that is akin to a fix the supposidly free world has
seen.
Not
in little markets but giant ones .. We are about as free as if
we
are or were in China or Russia Period. If elections are
fixed
I
would not know, but I would not be surprised.Oh then there is
global
warming
and pollution but hey lets worry about gays right and religion
which
automatically steers normal people away from logic and what
politicians
want..... what a country.
I have written to Senators, written to SEC and written to
Congressmen
and
asked them if they thought that what goes on in US stocks is
fair.
I
don't
even get a response . The news media simply ignores any
correlations
with
rich getting richer or US stocks being tainted with
overwhelming
odds
against the investor. Wealth oil corruption and more
polarization.
I can show you over an over again when people put big money in
the
stocks,
they simply take it down lower till someone might sell. In
with
your
money
down with the stock, while the ones you went OUT OF START TO
GO
UP,
a
SHELL GAME.. Brokers
have never warned investors before a stock was to go down
NEVER
,
they
tell
you after it tanks or if they tell you before it hardly ever
does.
Many
times if a stock gets good news it happens while investors are
not
in
and
then they take it up overnight so the only people who made
money
were
insiders and MM who ultimately then sell or short it next day
or
days
later
as people buy in so ultimately those people now never see
their
investment
go up.let me ask you all, do you see people proclaiming that I
just
bought a home or car with my winnings and proved it with photos of
the
Irs
form? Of course not, because its all bogus. You will see a pump that
this
stock is starting to rise but once you get in there, it tanks. Over
and
Over
and Over again. You don't see people saying I made a fortune , you
only
hear
I should have , " you were right" , and only if. Why because your
never
going to be at the right place long enough because Market Makers
take
your
money especially big money no matter where you go. There are
thousands
of
stocks so they can easily do it to you while others go up and the
market
can
suggest stocks are going up while your investment is not. We are
living
in
one fraud. While its tempting to say I told you so, the bottom line
is
your
going to lose if you put big money long or short in the end cause
market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system?
NOT
Ultimately someone asked me what should I do? I am saying you can't
do
it
consistently (win at stocks). I got to admit I wasn't even sure what I
was
dealing with at first, but then realized after a while this was the
most
extra ordinary set up in the USA and I am sure most people have no
clue
how
its a set up. I am sure I can't even explain the exact method only I
do
know
the drift of it. After allot of trades this dose of realism sunk in
and
its
about as scary as any belief I ever had about markets or our govt.
Suffice
to say if the goal is to take your money then someone is not telling
us
the
truth. If something happens to me I ask you to learn what I am saying
and
don't invest UNLESS you like to lose or unless your part of a company
(
stock). If your a legislature or aid or lawyer and want to use what I
say
in
a court to promote change, please leave your number and I will prove
who
I am
-----------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "youinmoneyout" <youinmoney out@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:51 PM
Subject: US STOCKS FIXED SHELL GAME
Please pass this to as many people as you canMost people don't realize
that
stocks are run by market makers and they can
wipe you out. Your not only going against shorts , and the tide of the
markets but also on how well the company is doing and against insiders and
finally and most important against market makers. Most people lose at
markets . It use to be you invest and leave it there. Not now, today the
market makers can take it down however low , often times double digit
percentages so if your not looking out for your investment it can vanish
in
ten minutes literally and leave it there forhowever long you go long.. So
theoretically you can win but NOT in reality. The
idea that our President wants to put your money in the markets is not
good!
.Not only should we not invest our SS money in markets, we need a
Congressional investigation on the real chances of overwhelming failure
investing in the markets bring
":
Companies might be legal but our trading system is a fraud at least:
, do you see people proclaiming or showing any winnings?
Of
course not, because its all bogus. You will see a pump that this
stock
is
starting to rise but once you get in there, it tanks. Over and Over
and
Over
again. you get in it tanks you get out , it goes back up and the MM
take out the differences. You don't see people saying I made a fortune ,
you
only hear I
should
have , " you were right" , and "only if ihad invested there " .. Why?
because your never going to
be
at the right place long enough because Market Makers have a key to
your
money
especially big money no matter where or what you invest in . There
are
thousands of
stocks
so they can easily do it to you while others go up and the market can
suggest stocks are going up while your investment is not. We are
living
in
one fraud. While its tempting to say I told you so, the bottom line
is
your
going to lose if you put big money long or short in the end cause
market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system?
NOT
which stock will stop going up as soon as you get in? Answer, if you
have
50k in one stock, chances are 90 percent the stock will
automatically
stop
going up once your money goes in or shortly thereafter. Seems like
a
contradiction aye since when you buy that should add to the price
WRONGO,
not in America, because all the bells and whistles go off to the
rich
that
says its time to bring his or her money down so we can take out the
difference. You think not? Now stocks are nothing
more
then a tool to take your money , not invest in. .Where Market
makers
take
the
stock down as far as need be just to get you to sell, or take
out
a
stop
order then takes the stock up and gets the difference. They
pump
it
up
( the price of stock) when your not in it and then after you join
they
dumpThe biggest fix or
mainpulation in the history of the usa which continues as status quo
is
the
trading of stocks I believe. Ever see a stop order that isn't taken
out?
While top one percent keeps getting a bigger total share of the pie
from
29
percent a few decades ago to now
60 percent of nations wealth, it still doesn't seem like enough
to
people in sec and exchanges. I guess all those beach front properties
need
someone to pay for them. Meanwhile we have 1000s of our boys dying for
this
scam they call capitalism and if your from out of the US make no
mistake
about it. this market system is not free and I bet my life on it.
Before
we
profess to spread democracy we have
got to own up to many problems, including polarization, political
corruption
in almost every state and the amount of money needed to run a viable
election which leaves at least 90 percent of Americans out and
stock
fraud,, so is this a real
democratic process we call a free election,,,,what a freaking joke!
Someone once asked me how do I protect myself or make money in the
markets
and when will my stock go up?
This was my answer: You will have to ask the people who monitor the
action
( if enough people leave maybe your stock will go up, if not they keep
squashing the tomatos or long) Same
for every stock long or short in USA. Sure it has something to do with
the
company but they bring these up in ten seconds and watch to see who
gets
in.
Basically if your long you might have to endear five months of losing,
only
to see it go up all in one day if you get out.Its happened to
countless
of
people. You guess the momentum and your guessing. The Marke makers
know
which way you went and thus can't lose. The incredible thing is, they
can
call this a free market system.
This is not a free market system. Please paste and copy this to all
your
friends are relatives because it may save you some hardache and
realize
I
post this with some fear:
It took me many trades to figure all this out. I want everyone to read
what
I wrote and tell your relatives cause this is one big set up. Sure you
win
sometimes but most of the time your betting against a lock, a group of
people who will take your opposite position till you lose. Its total
insaneness. I urge you to reevaluate your opinions of the markets
let me ask you all, do you see people proclaiming that I just bought a
home or car with my winnings and proved it with photos of the Irs form?
Of
course not, because its all bogus. You will see a pump that this stock
is
starting to rise but once you get in there, it tanks. Over and Over and
Over
again. You don't see people saying I made a fortune , you only hear I
should
have , " you were right" , and only if. Why because your never going to
be
at the right place long enough because Market Makers take your money
especially big money no matter where you go. There are thousands of
stocks
so they can easily do it to you while others go up and the market can
suggest stocks are going up while your investment is not. We are living
in
one fraud. While its tempting to say I told you so, the bottom line is
your
going to lose if you put big money long or short in the end cause market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system? NOT
which stock will stop going up as soon as you get in? Answer, if you
have
50k in one stock, chances are 90 percent the stock will automatically
stop
going up once your money goes in or shortly thereafter. Seems like a
contradiction aye since when you buy that should add to the price
WRONGO,
not in America, because all the bells and whistles go off to the rich
that
says its time to bring his or her money down so we can take out the
difference. You think not? Now stocks are nothing
more
then a tool to take your money , not invest in. .Where Market
makers
take
the
stock down as far as need be just to get you to sell, or take out
a
stop
order then takes the stock up and gets the difference. They pump
it
up
( the price of stock) when your not in it and then after you join they
dumpThe biggest fix or
mainpulation in the history of the usa which continues as status quo is
the
trading of stocks I believe. Ever see a stop order that isn't taken out
?( meaning its lost)
While top one percent keeps getting a bigger total share of the pie from
29
percent a few decades ago to now
60 percent of nations wealth, it still doesn't seem like enough
to
people in sec and exchanges. I guess all those beach front properties
need
someone to pay for them. Meanwhile we have 1000s of our boys dying for
this
scam they call capitalism and if your from out of the US make no mistake
about it. this market system is not free and I bet my life on it. Before
we
profess to spread democracy we have
got to own up to many problems, including polarization, political
corruption
in almost every state and the amount of money needed to run a viable
election which leaves at least 90 percent of Americans out and stock
fraud,, so is this a real
democratic process we call a free election,,,,what a freaking joke!
. If to get
elected to a major office you need huge sums of money who are we kidding
when we call this freedom? Is it freedom to attain unlimited wealth and
undermind everything else as the rich getting more and more percent of
wealth? Where big companies just keep buying up smaller ones? . The
stock exchange is raped
by MarketMakerss where sec puts laws in place that guarantees your
investment loss to insiders and Market Makers.Now stocks are nothing more
then a tool to take your money , not invest in. .Where Market makers tak
the stock down as far as need be, just to get you to sell, or take out a
stop
order then takes the stock up and gets the difference after your out.
They
pump it up ( the price of stock) when your not in it and then after you
join they dump it . sometimes over and over depending on how much money
they
can make. The more they make the more they are able to keep doing it.
Ultimately its the
keys to the vault. Fantom investors are the only one who gets into plus
column, as the trading in stocks is ONE GIANT SHELL and ponzi scheme..
If you get into a stock with big money, this signals for brokers or
standards and poors or newsmedia to find news that will get it to go down
often enough.
Manipulation and losses is basically what the market is about FOR YOU, a
complete and total set up and fraud that the world has never ever begun to
realize. A complete fix that is there to take your money, set up with the
wink of an eye and no its not a false conspiracy idea.
When people invested in Kmart , airlines or even defense stocks, thats
when
they
went down. After K mart goes bankrupt it soars on no news as just
one
example and of course
when no one was invested. Another example a stock wiill be at record
lows
with months of losing longs and low prices and then in one hour in one
day
the stock makes up all the loses . Why because the longs have sold and
the
market makers made the difference in as short as time as possible and
so they get the difference and the longs end up saying " I
should
have invested" where they can never make up that amount back cause the
market makers did it for them . Over and over you will see your stock
that
you just
got out of soar and if you stay in the stock stays dead. Ponzi scheme.
This
is like Yukos tens time over ongoing..
500 trades, 500 losses so while you might see the market go up ,
chances
are its not your big money that keeps going up. . The more you invest,
the
more chance the stock goes
down or horse loses if your gambling at track. This is the most
manipulated
investment that is akin to a fix the supposidly free world has
seen.
Not
in little markets but giant ones .. We are about as free as if
we
are or were in China or Russia Period. If elections are fixed I
would not know, but I would not be surprised.Oh then there is
global
warming
and pollution but hey lets worry about gays right and religion
which
automatically steers normal people away from logic and what
politicians
want..... what a country.
I have written to Senators, written to SEC and written to
Congressmen
and
asked them if they thought that what goes on in US stocks is fair.
I
don't
even get a response . The news media simply ignores any
correlations
with
rich getting richer or US stocks being tainted with overwhelming
odds
against the investor. Wealth oil corruption and more polarization.
I can show you over an over again when people put big money in the
stocks,
they simply take it down lower till someone might sell. In with
your
money
down with the stock, while the ones you went OUT OF START TO GO
UP,
a
SHELL GAME.. Brokers
have never warned investors before a stock was to go down NEVER ,
they
tell
you after it tanks or if they tell you before it hardly ever does.
Many
times if a stock gets good news it happens while investors are not
in
and
then they take it up overnight so the only people who made money
were
insiders and MM who ultimately then sell or short it next day or
days
later
as people buy in so ultimately those people now never see their
investment
go up.let me ask you all, do you see people proclaiming that I
just
bought a home or car with my winnings and proved it with photos of the
Irs
form? Of course not, because its all bogus. You will see a pump that
this
stock is starting to rise but once you get in there, it tanks. Over and
Over
and Over again. You don't see people saying I made a fortune , you only
hear
I should have , " you were right" , and only if. Why because your never
going to be at the right place long enough because Market Makers take
your
money especially big money no matter where you go. There are thousands
of
stocks so they can easily do it to you while others go up and the market
can
suggest stocks are going up while your investment is not. We are living
in
one fraud. While its tempting to say I told you so, the bottom line is
your
going to lose if you put big money long or short in the end cause market
makers have a ticket to your bank and they call this a free system? NOT
.