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"Termagnard" |
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21 Aug 2006 03:15:54 PM |
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FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11
August 20, 2006 - While Democrats on the campaign trail attempt to convince voters that the War on Terror and the War in
Iraq are not interdependent or interconnected, the neo con Republicans are seizing every media opportunity to shout that
any vote for a candidate seeking office in the U.S. Congress who isn't lockstep with the neo con war-mongering agenda is
an invitation for a terror attack in the United States. Just in case you haven't noticed, the neo con controlled
Republican Party talking points for this election cycle are the same talking points used in 2002 and 2004. The summary
of these points is that the neo cons will protect America from terrorists and keep the people safe while the Democrats
will put America at risk and potentially endanger American lives. It's called fear mongering.
Yet talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words, and at the end of the day the fact remains: the neo con leadership
has yet to indict Osama bin Laden for his reported role in the tragic events of September 11, 2001. While the neo con
is sure talking a great game, they seem to have grave difficultly finishing anything. Having not indicted Osama bin
Laden for the crimes of 9/11 is a clear indication that the neo con is either incompetent or covering up information
regarding what really happened on 9/11 - information that it fears could demolish any lingering public support for its
policies and agendas.
For Americans that question the government's account of 9/11, this lack of indictment is yet another awkward misfit
stumbling among a crowd of government inconsistencies that makes maintaining even partial subscription to the neo con
rhetoric regarding 9/11 happenings and the War on Terror, logically impossible. How can any critical-thinking American
continue to believe the government lines on bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, terrorism, and terrorist plots when it has yet to
legally produce the evidence required to gain a federal indictment of Osama bin Laden? After all, the evidence
threshold for gaining a federal indictment is much lower than for gaining a conviction. Yet for reasons that remain
obscure from the public record, the U.S. government, under full neo con control, has not gained such an indictment of
Osama bin Laden. For rightful doubters of what the U.S. government and the mainstream media have been and continue to
report about the bazaar War on Terror, this lack of indictment only fuels suspicion of the U.S. government.
Of course, there remains the blind neo con supporter running amuck in America. You can spot them out on our nation's
highways and byways. They are the bionic fools driving around with the "W" The President stickers on the rear windows
and bumpers of their vehicles. Most do not even realize that Osama bin Laden has not been indicted for his alleged
involvement in planning 9/11, and the truth is, few would dare to care. For them, its more comfortable to leave the
barbed, neo con hook entrenched in their political throats rather than endure the pain of extraction. These Americans
are the "trust the government" types. Had they lived in the thirteen colonies during the American Revolution, they
would have had "G" The King branded on their horse's *****. Without a doubt - they would have been Tories, King's Men,
Royalists, and Loyalists. Attempting to gain explanation from these people regarding why their fearless leaders have
failed to bring charges against Osama bin Laden for his alleged role in 9/11 yet continue to run around America
screaming, "The Terrorists are Coming, The Terrorist are Coming" is to attempt to repeatedly force a square peg in a
round hole - not recommended if you hope to maintain sanity.
This lack of indictment is simply inexcusable and unacceptable, yet the media continues to allow the neo con to shrill
without holding it accountable for its peculiar detachment from the founder and leader of Al-Qaeda. It just does not
add up.
Stranger yet is the fact the United States Department of Justice is obviously avoiding answering the direct question,
why hasn't Osama bin Laden been indicted for his involvement in 9/11, while the neo con talking heads continue to revamp
and ramp up their Election 2006 rhetoric as if the case on Osama bin Laden was already closed. Not buying the hype
though, the Muckraker Report has made many attempts via e-mail, phone conversations, and direct mail to get the DOJ
Public Affairs Office to go on the record and explain why Osama bin Laden has not been indicted for 9/11. It is obvious
that by its lack of response to what should be a fairly easy question to answer, the DOJ Public Affairs Office is
withholding information that clearly should be in the public domain - particularly since so much of the neo con agenda
hinges on Americans believing the entire 9/11, Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda story.
On June 14, 2006 the Muckraker Report spoke with Arthur Schwartz, Staff Assistant with the DOJ Public Affairs Office.
Schwartz fielded these questions over the phone:
1. Is the DOJ currently seeking an indictment by a federal grand jury of Osama bin Laden in connection with the
events of September 11, 2001?
2. According to the FBI, Osama bin Laden is wanted by the U.S. government in connection with the August 7, 1998
bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. Why, as of June 14, 2006, is
Osama bin Laden not wanted by the U.S. government in connection with the events of September 11, 2001?
3. Why doesn't the FBI or DOJ have enough hard evidence connecting Osama bin Laden to 9/11? Does the DOJ not want
Osama bin Laden in connection with the events of 9/11?
4. On December 13, 2001, the Department of Defense released what has now become known as the "Osama bin Laden 9/11
confession video" within the mainstream media. How is it that this video isn't sufficient "evidence" to gain an
indictment by a federal grand jury - connecting Osama bin Laden to 9/11?
5. Does the DOJ have reason to believe that the so-called "confession video" is authentic?
6. Does the DOJ have reason to believe that the "confession video" is a fake?
7. Does the DOJ have any hard evidence connecting Osama bin Laden to the events of 9/11?
After reading these questions to Schwartz during our phone conversation, Schwartz asked that the Muckraker Report e-mail
the questions to Arthur.Schwartz@usdoj.gov, which is exactly what the Muckraker Report did at 2:21:17 PM on June 14,
2006. Since that time, the Muckraker Report has sent e-mail and called Schwartz on numerous occasions seeking answers
to these valid and important questions. I have personally spoken with Schwartz on at least three different occasions
since June 14, 2006, seeking status of the DOJ answers. Schwartz contends that he passed the questions onto "others"
but refuses to give contact information that identifies exactly who these "others" are and when they might get around to
doing their jobs by answering these questions - after all, they're Public Affairs! Once Schwartz refused to divulge the
name[s] of the government employee[s] that are reportedly working on finding answers to the questions asked by the
Muckraker Report, it became clear that the United States Department of Justice is unwilling to voluntarily answer these
questions.
Not to be deterred, on August 15, 2006, the Muckraker Report called the DOJ Public Affairs to start anew, but this time,
I decided to only ask one question, "Why has Osama bin Laden not been indicted by a federal grand jury in connection
with his alleged masterminding of 9/11?" I spoke to a government employee that identified himself as Matt Lebaron. I
asked if he could get back to me as soon as possible because I have been waiting over 60 days for an answer, from his
office, to this simple question.
Five days have passed, and still no call from Matt Lebaron.
It's time for the people to get some answers or suffer the consequences. Time is running out. We either return the
power to the people or suffer under the emerging totalitarianism that is spreading across our nation and being accepted
by people that are no longer fit to be called Americans. If totalitarianism is the only government-provided anecdote to
terrorism, give me the risk of terrorism and let me live free from totalitarian intrusions and oppression.
http://www.teamliberty.net
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 04:07:24 AM |
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Termagnard wrote:
FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11
http://www.teamliberty.net
I have no reason what-so-ever to believe that 9-11 was the work of Moslems
terrorists. I am convinced the attacks were false flag attacks intended to
engender hatred of Moslems so the American people would be motivated to go
to war against people whom the perpetrators want neutralized.
The planes were not under the control of human pilots when they hit the
buildings. A simple analogous experiment should suffice to convince the
reader that AA77 was not under the control of Hani von Richtofen Hanjour.
Take a large box, such as what a refrigerator is delivered in, and place it
in the middle of a large empty parking lot. At 50 mph drive passed the box
missing it by a few feet. As soon as you pass the box, throw the wheel
into a turn that remains fixed for the duration of you maneuver until the
final approach. When the turn is complete you need to be headed directly
for the box with little distance remaining for a final linear approach.
You get one chance to hit the box.
Oh, and the box is full of explosives so you know you're going to die when
you hit it.
Assume you have only driven a car a few times in your life, and had failed
your last driving test. Now, try this in an 18-wheeler after having only
read a manual on how to operate it. That is the analog to what this
innocent young Moslem, Hani Hanjour, is accused of doing in 3 dimensions at
500 mph.
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Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has Not been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 11:02:51 AM |
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Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Termagnard wrote:
FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11
So what???
I have no reason what-so-ever to believe that 9-11 was the work of Moslems
terrorists. I am convinced the attacks were false flag attacks intended to
engender hatred of Moslems so the American people would be motivated to go
to war against people whom the perpetrators want neutralized.
You have "no reason what-so-ever" and no reasoning at all.
- -
"Islam is an invention for the purpose of providing
a religious justification for Arab Imperialism.
The Conquest is the reason and explanation for
Islam, not the other way around."
"the life of Mohammed in Mecca and Medina is a
myth, a "baseless fiction."
Mohammad ibn al-Rawandi
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| User: "Termagnard" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has Not been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 11:24:34 PM |
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<last_post@rogers.com> wrote in message news:1156262571.176514.189360@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Termagnard wrote:
FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11
So what???
I have no reason what-so-ever to believe that 9-11 was the work of Moslems
terrorists. I am convinced the attacks were false flag attacks intended to
engender hatred of Moslems so the American people would be motivated to go
to war against people whom the perpetrators want neutralized.
You have "no reason what-so-ever" and no reasoning at all.
Here is a reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8KpSczlNc&mode=related&search=
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"Islam is an invention for the purpose of providing
a religious justification for Arab Imperialism.
The Conquest is the reason and explanation for
Islam, not the other way around."
"the life of Mohammed in Mecca and Medina is a
myth, a "baseless fiction."
Mohammad ibn al-Rawandi
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has Not been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 10:14:01 PM |
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Termagnard wrote:
<last_post@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:1156262571.176514.189360@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
You have "no reason what-so-ever" and no reasoning at all.
Here is a reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ8KpSczlNc&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6kouXg40Q&mode=related&search=
Hu?
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Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has Not been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 09:58:02 PM |
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wrote:
You have "no reason what-so-ever" and no reasoning at all.
- -
"Islam is an invention for the purpose of providing
a religious justification for Arab Imperialism.
The Conquest is the reason and explanation for
Islam, not the other way around."
"the life of Mohammed in Mecca and Medina is a
myth, a "baseless fiction."
Mohammad ibn al-Rawandi
Chinese Muslims planning terrorist attacks against America's Heartland:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2835014172981098824&q=Xinjiang
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Nil conscire sibi
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| User: "Hatto von Aquitanien" |
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| Title: Re: FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11 |
22 Aug 2006 05:30:22 AM |
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Hatto von Aquitanien wrote:
Termagnard wrote:
FACT: Osama bin Laden has NOT been indicted for his involvement in 9/11
http://www.teamliberty.net
I have no reason what-so-ever to believe that 9-11 was the work of Moslems
terrorists. I am convinced the attacks were false flag attacks intended
to engender hatred of Moslems so the American people would be motivated to
go to war against people whom the perpetrators want neutralized.
The planes were not under the control of human pilots when they hit the
buildings. A simple analogous experiment should suffice to convince the
reader that AA77 was not under the control of Hani von Richtofen Hanjour.
Take a large box, such as what a refrigerator is delivered in, and place
it
in the middle of a large empty parking lot. At 50 mph drive passed the
box
missing it by a few feet. As soon as you pass the box, throw the wheel
into a turn that remains fixed for the duration of you maneuver until the
final approach. When the turn is complete you need to be headed directly
for the box with little distance remaining for a final linear approach.
You get one chance to hit the box.
Oh, and the box is full of explosives so you know you're going to die when
you hit it.
Assume you have only driven a car a few times in your life, and had failed
your last driving test. Now, try this in an 18-wheeler after having only
read a manual on how to operate it. That is the analog to what this
innocent young Moslem, Hani Hanjour, is accused of doing in 3 dimensions
at 500 mph.
Note that some of the men listed here are reported to be alive, and the FBI
has acknowledged this.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/penttbom/penttbomb.htm
It is deeply offensive to the principles of American justice to continue to
display their likenesses.
Note that bin Laden is not named as a suspect in the 9-11 attacks:
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm
BTW, I believe he's been dead for years.
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Nil conscire sibi
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