So, Harry.

Accord to your data, we know what?

"There is a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg pollout today that shows that
a majority of those with military conncetions -- active duty, vets and
families -- disapprove of Bush and his war and only 36 percent believe
the war was worth it."

So, Harry.
Accord to your data, we know what?

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/7/22127/6894/60/418962

Dec 06, 2007

It's Official: VoteVets Right, Limbaugh Wrong

by Brandon Friedman

I've said on a number of occasions that the Commander-in-Chief is a
petulant and ignorant warmonger not worthy of leading America's
troops.

For my efforts, I've had quite a few Limbaugh-supporting
non-combatants call me a variety of names like "mealy-mouthed puke"
and "douchebag."

I've even had Rush himself accuse me of lying on his live show.

At the same time, others have said that Jon Soltz and the organization
for which I work, VoteVets.org, "doesn't speak for all vets."

In fact, Rush said it himself:


"VoteVets.org doesn't represent the vast majority of veterans out
there."

--Rush Limbaugh, October 5, 2007


So when the new Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll of military families
came out in an article today,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8&refer=politics
none of us at VoteVets http://www.votevets.org/ were
surprised-especially considering that the Marine profiled in the
piece, Kent Fletcher, is an active member of VoteVets.

The results confirmed what we already knew:

Given a long enough timeline (and despite what they say), the Bush
administration will ***** off and alienate every single living member
of the United States military and every single living member of their
families.

As quaoar has already explained in this excellent piece, the numbers
in the poll data are very telling:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/6/192213/818/190/418832


Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36
percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq.
::
37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing
as president, a little more than the general population.
::
The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of
active-duty military, veterans and their families.

The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they
believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those
needs.


For that last point, the converse would be "71 percent of all
respondents don't believe the Bush administration is treating the
troops, veterans, or their families well."

But these numbers are made even more stupefying when you consider this
critical fact:

Until the invasion of Iraq, the military was overwhelmingly
pro-Republican.

And now?

Not so much:


At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent,
say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling
those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.


Really.

Huh.

You have to be so totally, almost unfathomably, incompetent to achieve
results like this.

These geniuses in the Bush administration took an overwhelmingly
friendly, pro-Republican, pro-Bush military and completely turned it
around between 2002 and 2007.

Congratulations, guys!

So Rush, who represents the majority of veterans out there?

You, or VoteVets?

Haha.

Just kidding.

It's a stupid question.

I know.

_______________________________________________

The ***** Junkie is left with his thumb up his *****.

Harry

So, Harry.

Accord to your data, we know what?

"There is a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg pollout today that shows that a
majority of those with military conncetions -- active duty, vets and
families -- disapprove of Bush and his war and only 36 percent believe the
war was worth it."

A majority means over 50%. Since your linked article doesn't state, am I to
assume 49% (according to you a majority disapprove) approve of Bush and his
war. That 36 percent believe the war was worth it, 50% have no opinion and
14% disapprove (Harry didn't provide so much data, I'm forced to guess the
remainder)

Even this linkhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8from
your linked article reveals only selected data from the poll presented in a
biased manner.

Again Harry, where's the raw data from the poll? To scared
to provide it?

--Wayne H. Wilhelm
Personal Web: http://www.hiddenpolitics.com

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/7/22127/6894/60/418962

Dec 06, 2007

It's Official: VoteVets Right, Limbaugh Wrong

by Brandon Friedman

I've said on a number of occasions that the Commander-in-Chief is a
petulant and ignorant warmonger not worthy of leading America's
troops.

For my efforts, I've had quite a few Limbaugh-supporting
non-combatants call me a variety of names like "mealy-mouthed puke"
and "douchebag."

I've even had Rush himself accuse me of lying on his live show.

At the same time, others have said that Jon Soltz and the organization
for which I work, VoteVets.org, "doesn't speak for all vets."

In fact, Rush said it himself:

"VoteVets.org doesn't represent the vast majority of veterans out
there."

--Rush Limbaugh, October 5, 2007

So when the new Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll of military families
came out in an article today,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8&refe...
none of us at VoteVetshttp://www.votevets.org/were
surprised-especially considering that the Marine profiled in the
piece, Kent Fletcher, is an active member of VoteVets.

The results confirmed what we already knew:

Given a long enough timeline (and despite what they say), the Bush
administration will ***** off and alienate every single living member
of the United States military and every single living member of their
families.

As quaoar has already explained in this excellent piece, the numbers
in the poll data are very telling:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/6/192213/818/190/418832

Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36
percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq.
::
37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing
as president, a little more than the general population.
::
The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of
active-duty military, veterans and their families.

The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they
believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those
needs.

For that last point, the converse would be "71 percent of all
respondents don't believe the Bush administration is treating the
troops, veterans, or their families well."

But these numbers are made even more stupefying when you consider this
critical fact:

Until the invasion of Iraq, the military was overwhelmingly
pro-Republican.

And now?

Not so much:

At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent,
say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling
those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.

Really.

Huh.

You have to be so totally, almost unfathomably, incompetent to achieve
results like this.

These geniuses in the Bush administration took an overwhelmingly
friendly, pro-Republican, pro-Bush military and completely turned it
around between 2002 and 2007.

Congratulations, guys!

So Rush, who represents the majority of veterans out there?

You, or VoteVets?

Haha.

Just kidding.

It's a stupid question.

I know.

_______________________________________________

The ***** Junkie is left with his thumb up his *****.

Harry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, Harry.

Accord to your data, we know what?

"There is a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg pollout today that shows that a
majority of those with military conncetions -- active duty, vets and
families -- disapprove of Bush and his war and only 36 percent believe the
war was worth it."

A majority means over 50%. Since your linked article doesn't state, am I to
assume 49% (according to you a majority disapprove) approve of Bush and his
war. That 36 percent believe the war was worth it, 50% have no opinion and
14% disapprove (Harry didn't provide so much data, I'm forced to guess the
remainder)

Even this link
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8 from
your linked article reveals only selected data from the poll presented in a
biased manner. Again Harry, where's the raw data from the poll? To scared
to provide it?

--Wayne H. Wilhelm
Personal Web: http://www.hiddenpolitics.com

examples< of what questions you *think are biased, dumbass.

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t2ntgj7q6ls8st6ca920j8m@4ax.com...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/7/22127/6894/60/418962

Dec 06, 2007

It's Official: VoteVets Right, Limbaugh Wrong

by Brandon Friedman

I've said on a number of occasions that the Commander-in-Chief is a
petulant and ignorant warmonger not worthy of leading America's
troops.

For my efforts, I've had quite a few Limbaugh-supporting
non-combatants call me a variety of names like "mealy-mouthed puke"
and "douchebag."

I've even had Rush himself accuse me of lying on his live show.

At the same time, others have said that Jon Soltz and the organization
for which I work, VoteVets.org, "doesn't speak for all vets."

In fact, Rush said it himself:


"VoteVets.org doesn't represent the vast majority of veterans out
there."

--Rush Limbaugh, October 5, 2007


So when the new Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll of military families
came out in an article today,
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a9eBP4ZM28G8&refer=politics
none of us at VoteVets http://www.votevets.org/ were
surprised-especially considering that the Marine profiled in the
piece, Kent Fletcher, is an active member of VoteVets.

The results confirmed what we already knew:

Given a long enough timeline (and despite what they say), the Bush
administration will ***** off and alienate every single living member
of the United States military and every single living member of their
families.

As quaoar has already explained in this excellent piece, the numbers
in the poll data are very telling:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/6/192213/818/190/418832


Among active-duty military, veterans and their families, only 36
percent say it was worth going to war in Iraq.
::
37 percent of military-family members approve of the job Bush is doing
as president, a little more than the general population.
::
The same trend holds true on the question of the treatment of
active-duty military, veterans and their families.

The poll finds that only 29 percent of all poll respondents say they
believe the Bush administration is doing a good job handling those
needs.


For that last point, the converse would be "71 percent of all
respondents don't believe the Bush administration is treating the
troops, veterans, or their families well."

But these numbers are made even more stupefying when you consider this
critical fact:

Until the invasion of Iraq, the military was overwhelmingly
pro-Republican.

And now?

Not so much:


At the same time, a plurality of military-family members, 39 percent,
say they believe Democrats are likely to do a better job handling
those issues, compared with 35 percent for Republicans.


Really.

Huh.

You have to be so totally, almost unfathomably, incompetent to achieve
results like this.

These geniuses in the Bush administration took an overwhelmingly
friendly, pro-Republican, pro-Bush military and completely turned it
around between 2002 and 2007.

Congratulations, guys!

So Rush, who represents the majority of veterans out there?

You, or VoteVets?

Haha.

Just kidding.

It's a stupid question.

I know.

_______________________________________________

The ***** Junkie is left with his thumb up his *****.

Harry