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"Mertis" |
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03 Jun 2007 09:38:17 AM |
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FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
Ted Gunderson, FBI(ret.), talks about the bomb which destroyed the
Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. He presents evidence contradicting the
government's explanation, which indicates a clear cover-up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbX5gX2t4vM
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
02 Jun 2007 10:47:30 PM |
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Mertis wrote:
Ted Gunderson, FBI(ret.), talks about the bomb which destroyed the
Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. He presents evidence contradicting the
government's explanation, which indicates a clear cover-up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbX5gX2t4vM
That's not "evidence".
That's just him making some outrageous claims.
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| User: "Ben Turner" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
03 Jun 2007 06:46:12 AM |
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Mertis wrote:
Ted Gunderson, FBI(ret.), talks about the bomb which destroyed the
Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. He presents evidence contradicting the
government's explanation, which indicates a clear cover-up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbX5gX2t4vM
Brigadier General Ben Partin speaks about Oklahoma City, Waco & Communism
http://tinyurl.com/2pk397
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| User: "Briga" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
03 Jun 2007 12:41:17 PM |
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Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Mertis wrote:
Ted Gunderson, FBI(ret.), talks about the bomb which destroyed the
Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. He presents evidence contradicting
the government's explanation, which indicates a clear cover-up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbX5gX2t4vM
That's not "evidence".
That's just him making some outrageous claims.
It seems that you are being shocked by this.
Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
By William F. Jasper
Created 2007-03-07 18:33
http://www.jbs.org/node/2880
In a 19-page affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City,
convicted Oklahoma City bombing conspirator Terry Lynn Nichols alleges
that the bombing plot was actually under the supervision of top FBI
officials. According to a February 21 report in Salt Lake City's Deseret
News, the Nichols affidavit charges that Timothy McVeigh, who was
executed for his role in the bombing, was actually working under Larry
Potts, the controversial FBI official who was forced to resign under a
cloud for his roles in two other major FBI scandals: the deadly FBI
assaults on Ruby Ridge in 1992 and Waco in 1993. Terry Nichols is not a
terribly credible witness: he's a mass murderer and he lied consistently
through the OKC investigation, but his claims should not be dismissed
outright.
As the assistant director in charge of criminal investigations at FBI
headquarters, Larry Potts was the Washington-based manager of the 1992
operation against the Randy Weaver family near Ruby Ridge in remote
northern Idaho. In that incredible and tragic operation, Randy Weaver's
wife Vicki was shot in the head and killed by an FBI sniper, while
holding her infant child. The Weavers' 14-year-old son Sammy was also
killed, shot in the back by federal agents. Larry Potts was the FBI
official who approved the illegal "license to kill" order that resulted
in those deaths.
The FBI's infamous assault on the Branch Davidian church complex near
Waco, Texas, left more than 80 people dead, including 22 children.
Potts, again, played a key role, both in authorizing the use of deadly
force against innocent civilians, and, later, in the campaign of lies
and coverups aimed at thwarting congressional investigations into the
deadly fiasco.
Larry Potts was also the FBI's man charged with overall supervisory
responsibility for the Oklahoma City bombing investigation in 1995.
Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, FBI Director Louis Freeh, and
Bob Ricks, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Oklahoma City
office, Potts helped misdirect the OKC investigation, purposely steering
investigators away from individuals who should have been considered top
suspects as McVeigh's co-conspirators in the bombing plot.
One of the primary suspects who benefited from this misdirection was
Andreas Strassmeir, a German national who was in the United States
illegally and was serving as chief of security at the white separatist
compound known as "Elohim City," in rural eastern Oklahoma. McVeigh's
phone records show he called the compound on the same day that he called
the Ryder truck agency to rent the vehicle used for the truck bomb.
According to the FBI's own documents, the witness at Elohim City who
took the call said McVeigh was calling for Strassmeir. Elohim City was
well-known as a hangout and hideout for the notorious Aryan Republican
Army bank robbers, several of whom have turned out to be federal
informants or agents provocateur.
Rather than arresting and questioning Strassmeir, the FBI allowed him to
wander freely for eight months and then slip into Mexico before fleeing
back to Germany. Andreas Strassmeir and McVeigh's connections to Elohim
City have been subject of numerous reports in The New American's
extensive and ongoing investigation into the Oklahoma City bombing.
(See, for example, "Elohim, Terror, and Truth [0]" and "Undercover: The
Howe Revelations [0]." The latter title refers to Carol Howe, an ATF
informant who provided federal agents prior knowledge of the Oklahoma
City bombing.)
After Louis Freeh promoted Potts to be his top assistant, he was forced
to demote and suspend him when congressional and Justice Department
investigations revealed Potts' illegal activities in the Ruby Ridge and
Waco operations. Was Potts "running" Strassmeir, McVeigh, and other OKC
bombing suspects who were listed in the original federal indictment as
"others unknown"? The answer to that question may be revealed when other
sealed FBI documents on Elohim City, McVeigh, and Strassmeir are
released.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
03 Jun 2007 01:25:50 AM |
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Briga wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Mertis wrote:
That's not "evidence".
That's just him making some outrageous claims.
It seems that you are being shocked by this.
Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
By William F. Jasper
No - I'm not shocked. The OKC bombing has spurred more
conspiracy theories than the Roswell incident.
Beyond that - there's a vast number of folks out there who just
LOVE making up stuff to get y'all even more riled than you
already are.
Whenever I talk with junkies, mental patients or Libertarians -
this is the very kind of thing they obsess upon - rather than
their own problems.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
03 Jun 2007 01:27:02 AM |
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Briga wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Mertis wrote:
That's not "evidence".
That's just him making some outrageous claims.
It seems that you are being shocked by this.
Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
By William F. Jasper
No - I'm not shocked. The OKC bombing has spurred more
conspiracy theories than the Roswell incident.
Beyond that - there's a vast number of folks out there who just
LOVE making up stuff to get y'all even more riled than you
already are.
Whenever I talk with junkies, mental patients or Libertarians -
this is the very kind of thing they obsess upon - rather than
their own problems.
That wouldn't be so bad - but y'all seem *determined* to drag
the rest of us into your wild-eyed weirdness.
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| User: "Mark Donovan" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
03 Jun 2007 07:54:01 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:Wat8i.12447$rO7.7470@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
Briga wrote:
Sanders Kaufman wrote:
Mertis wrote:
That's not "evidence".
That's just him making some outrageous claims.
It seems that you are being shocked by this.
Was OKC Bomber Timothy McVeigh Working for the FBI?
By William F. Jasper
No - I'm not shocked. The OKC bombing has spurred more conspiracy
theories than the Roswell incident.
Beyond that - there's a vast number of folks out there who just LOVE
making up stuff to get y'all even more riled than you already are.
Whenever I talk with junkies, mental patients or Libertarians - this is
the very kind of thing they obsess upon - rather than their own problems.
Why do you talk with junkies? By any chance, are they your neighbors,
business partners, family maybe?
And how about mental patients? Where do you talk with them? Are you
surrounded by them? Same hospital room, right?
And also, it seems you are one of those patients who dread the word
"liberty" and its derivatives. Anything that sounds like it, don't you?
Do you know what Libertarians stand for, what they are all about? How about
checking out www.lp.org or www.isil.org , if you're able to grasp what's in
there.
MD
That wouldn't be so bad - but y'all seem *determined* to drag the rest of
us into your wild-eyed weirdness.
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
04 Jun 2007 02:17:23 PM |
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Mark Donovan wrote:
Why do you talk with junkies? By any chance, are they your neighbors,
business partners, family maybe?
And how about mental patients? Where do you talk with them? Are you
surrounded by them? Same hospital room, right?
And also, it seems you are one of those patients who dread the word
"liberty" and its derivatives. Anything that sounds like it, don't you?
Do you know what Libertarians stand for, what they are all about? How about
checking out www.lp.org or www.isil.org , if you're able to grasp what's in
there.
But I've found that it's wiser to judge Libertarian/Republicans
on how they *behave*, rather than what their leaders say.
Libertarians, like Republicans, don't really stand FOR anything.
They're just against this, and against that.
In fact, many Libertarians are just disgruntled Republican
extremists who are angry that the Republicans don't take a stand
*against* enough stuff.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: FBI agent contradicts officials on Oklahoma City bombing |
02 Jun 2007 09:02:49 PM |
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On Jun 3, 7:38 am, Mertis <mertisC...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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