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12 Mar 2006 10:28:38 PM |
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Feingold Calls for Bush's Censure |
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Sen. Russ Feingold, a potential presidential candidate, told ABC's "This
Week" Sunday that the resolution would not preempt discussions about
changing a 1978 law governing a special court set up to approve wiretaps.
"It's an unusual step," he said. "It's a big step, but what the president
did by consciously and intentionally violating the Constitution and laws of
this country with this illegal wiretapping has to be answered.
"There can be debate about whether the law should be changed. There can be
debate about how best to fight terrorism. We all believe that there should
be wiretapping in appropriate cases -- but the idea that the president can
just make up a law, in violation of his oath of office, has to be answered."
Feingold, a member of the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees, said
he is doubtful any Republican senators will join him in trying to reprimand
the president.
Only one president, Andrew Jackson, has ever been censured.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, also speaking on ABC, said Feingold "is
just wrong."
"He is flat wrong, he is dead wrong," said the Tennessee Republican -- also
a potential presidential candidate in 2008 -- adding that "attacking our
commander in chief ... doesn't make sense."
"We are right now at an unprecedented war where they really want to take us
down," he said. "A censure resolution ... is wrong. It sends a signal around
the world.
"The American people are solidly behind this president in conducting the war
on terror."
Sen. John Warner, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, noted
Feingold's presidential aspirations, and criticized his move as "political
grandstanding."
The Republican from Virginia noted that, since 1978, when the Foreign
Surveillance Intelligence Act was passed restricting covert surveillance,
technology has changed dramatically.
"Presidents must act instantaneously in the security interests of this
country," he said.
Bush authorized the National Security Agency shortly after the September 11,
2001, terrorist attacks to eavesdrop on Americans suspected of communicating
with al Qaeda members overseas -- without obtaining a warrant from the FISA
court.
The administration has said the program is lawful, and although initially a
number of Republicans were critical, most have moved on to "fixing the law,"
in Feingold's words, to erase any question of its legality.
On Tuesday, four Senate Republicans proposed a bill to provide what one
called "very rigorous oversight" of the program while also giving it the
force of law.
Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Olympia Snowe of Maine, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska
and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, all members of the Intelligence
Committee, introduced the bill late Tuesday afternoon in an effort to
address criticism of the program and reach a compromise. Feingold said
revising the law isn't enough.
"What I'm interested in is my colleagues acknowledging that we as a Congress
have to stand up to a president who acts as if the Bill of Rights and the
Constitution were repealed on September 11," he said. "We didn't enact
martial law on September 11. We still have a constitutional form of
government, and if the Congress of the United States does not stand up for
that authority at this point, it will be an historic failure of our system
of government."
Sen. Carl Levin, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services
Committee, said he believes Bush's program is wrong but said he would rather
wait for the investigation by the Intelligence Committee to be completed.
But Levin, of Michigan, backed Feingold's right to harsh words for Bush.
"I think criticism of the president is legitimate," he said. "I think we
ought to welcome some checks and balances on the president."
© 2006 CNN
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12 Mar 2006 11:11:42 PM |
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"-Zebra-" <seer@gera.net> wrote in
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"The American people are solidly behind this president in conducting
the war on terror."
Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahaha
Yea...that's why Bush has a 34%-38% approval rating.
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public." - Theodore Roosevelt
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13 Mar 2006 12:07:57 AM |
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"-Zebra-" <seer@gera.net> wrote in message
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Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Sen. Russ Feingold, a potential presidential candidate, told ABC's "This
Week" Sunday that the resolution would not preempt discussions about
changing a 1978 law governing a special court set up to approve wiretaps.
"It's an unusual step," he said. "It's a big step, but what the president
did by consciously and intentionally violating the Constitution and laws
of
this country with this illegal wiretapping has to be answered.
"There can be debate about whether the law should be changed. There can be
debate about how best to fight terrorism. We all believe that there should
be wiretapping in appropriate cases -- but the idea that the president can
just make up a law, in violation of his oath of office, has to be
answered."
Feingold, a member of the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees,
said
he is doubtful any Republican senators will join him in trying to
reprimand
the president.
Only one president, Andrew Jackson, has ever been censured.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, also speaking on ABC, said Feingold "is
just wrong."
"He is flat wrong, he is dead wrong," said the Tennessee Republican --
also
a potential presidential candidate in 2008 -- adding that "attacking our
commander in chief ... doesn't make sense."
"We are right now at an unprecedented war where they really want to take
us
down," he said. "A censure resolution ... is wrong. It sends a signal
around
the world.
"The American people are solidly behind this president in conducting the
war
on terror."
Sen. John Warner, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee,
noted
Feingold's presidential aspirations, and criticized his move as "political
grandstanding."
The Republican from Virginia noted that, since 1978, when the Foreign
Surveillance Intelligence Act was passed restricting covert surveillance,
technology has changed dramatically.
"Presidents must act instantaneously in the security interests of this
country," he said.
Bush authorized the National Security Agency shortly after the September
11,
2001, terrorist attacks to eavesdrop on Americans suspected of
communicating
with al Qaeda members overseas -- without obtaining a warrant from the
FISA
court.
The administration has said the program is lawful, and although initially
a
number of Republicans were critical, most have moved on to "fixing the
law,"
in Feingold's words, to erase any question of its legality.
On Tuesday, four Senate Republicans proposed a bill to provide what one
called "very rigorous oversight" of the program while also giving it the
force of law.
Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Olympia Snowe of Maine, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska
and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, all members of the Intelligence
Committee, introduced the bill late Tuesday afternoon in an effort to
address criticism of the program and reach a compromise. Feingold said
revising the law isn't enough.
"What I'm interested in is my colleagues acknowledging that we as a
Congress
have to stand up to a president who acts as if the Bill of Rights and the
Constitution were repealed on September 11," he said. "We didn't enact
martial law on September 11. We still have a constitutional form of
government, and if the Congress of the United States does not stand up for
that authority at this point, it will be an historic failure of our system
of government."
Sen. Carl Levin, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services
Committee, said he believes Bush's program is wrong but said he would
rather
wait for the investigation by the Intelligence Committee to be completed.
But Levin, of Michigan, backed Feingold's right to harsh words for Bush.
"I think criticism of the president is legitimate," he said. "I think we
ought to welcome some checks and balances on the president."
© 2006 CNN
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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0312-08.htm
Criticism of the president keeps the president accountable and thats nothing
new, and the republicans should not be shocked and act like it is
unprecedented unless they want to add another credit to their list of
hypocracy. We dont have to go back very far in history to see when they
wasted a lot of money and caused capitol hill gridlock just for the sole
pupose of presidential criticism. I'm thinking if the Feingold resolution
is introduced Monday, C-Span will be the channel to have it live. I would
love to see frist get his good old holier than though robe on, while he
prays and goes nuts again.
What the hell is wrong with keeping a republican incumbant accountable
anyway? The American people were kept well informed of the details of a
democrats sex life, but when it comes to spying on us, we are supposed to
just let it go because the motherfuckers name is bush? *****. We want to
know, and if Feingold is going to be man enough to stand up to these pricks,
we should mail our legislators and tell them we want to know the details
just like they felt compelled to tell us Clintons details.
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13 Mar 2006 12:11:05 AM |
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-Zebra- wrote...
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Except there is no constitutional provision for censure of a sitting
president. The constitution outlines a procedure for impeachment,
but there's nothing in there that allows simple censure. And that's
why some Democrats joined in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, they
would have preferred censure but knew it wasn't possible and that
the only way to restore respect for the institutions of congress and
the presidency was to impeach (and then of course not convict).
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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13 Mar 2006 12:27:34 AM |
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geltab wrote:
-Zebra- wrote...
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Except there is no constitutional provision for censure of a sitting
president. The constitution outlines a procedure for impeachment,
but there's nothing in there that allows simple censure. And that's
why some Democrats joined in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, they
would have preferred censure but knew it wasn't possible and that
the only way to restore respect for the institutions of congress and
the presidency was to impeach (and then of course not convict).
The Constitution is silent on censure . It says the
president,vice-president and all civil officers can be impeached. Some
of the same Republicans who said a president can not be censured
threatened Janet Reno with censure.
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| User: "George Grapman" |
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13 Mar 2006 12:22:20 AM |
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geltab wrote:
-Zebra- wrote...
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Except there is no constitutional provision for censure of a sitting
president. The constitution outlines a procedure for impeachment,
but there's nothing in there that allows simple censure. And that's
why some Democrats joined in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, they
would have preferred censure but knew it wasn't possible and that
the only way to restore respect for the institutions of congress and
the presidency was to impeach (and then of course not convict).
The Senate censured Andrew Jackson. they later reversed and expunged
he censure.
House Republicans during the Clinton debate claimed a president could
only be impeached and not censured.
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| User: "geltab" |
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13 Mar 2006 01:14:57 PM |
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George Grapman wrote...
geltab wrote:
-Zebra- wrote...
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Except there is no constitutional provision for censure of a sitting
president. The constitution outlines a procedure for impeachment,
but there's nothing in there that allows simple censure. And that's
why some Democrats joined in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, they
would have preferred censure but knew it wasn't possible and that
the only way to restore respect for the institutions of congress and
the presidency was to impeach (and then of course not convict).
The Senate censured Andrew Jackson. they later reversed and expunged he
censure.
House Republicans during the Clinton debate claimed a president could
only be impeached and not censured.
I wonder what would have happened had he challenged the censure, would it
have been rejected by the Supreme Court? I just searched my copy of the
U.S. Constitution and can't find "censure" in there anywhere, but
"imeach*" appears 6 times. Anyway, censure is a parliamentary procedure
like the filibuster, and AFAIK Congress has no power to censure a non-
member like the president any more than it has the power to censure
Michael Jackson for sleeping with little boys. In this case I agree with
the Republitards, that there is no constitutional provision to censure a
sitting president, so the only option is impeachment by the House.
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| User: "Marinus van der Lubbe" |
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13 Mar 2006 12:29:06 AM |
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geltab wrote:
-Zebra- wrote...
Feingold to Call for Rare Presidential Censure---
A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a
resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic
wiretapping program.
Except there is no constitutional provision for censure of a sitting
president. The constitution outlines a procedure for impeachment,
but there's nothing in there that allows simple censure. And that's
why some Democrats joined in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, they
would have preferred censure but knew it wasn't possible and that
the only way to restore respect for the institutions of congress and
the presidency was to impeach (and then of course not convict).
And restore respect for that august institution they did! They impeached
a president who got a *****, but when they have a real war criminal
on their hands, they just rubberstamp any crazy-assed off-budget
expenditure for the occupation.
They don't even ask for receipts. Loose $9 billion in cash, feh, what's
that? Twice the amount of money to get every homeless American off the
streets for a year, which would create a massive housing construction
boom. Forget it.
Yes, censure him, that naughty boy.
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| User: "Leftists = traitors" |
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12 Mar 2006 10:41:05 PM |
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Juden. Is he mad because of the port deal with those dirty Arabs? The
Jews in Congress and the Senate have to make up their dirty little
minds; Are they Americans or Israelis?
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| User: "Bert Hyman" |
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13 Mar 2006 01:19:03 PM |
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(Leftists = traitors) wrote in
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Are they Americans or Israelis?
But you're a Canadian.
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN |
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| User: "Polish Prince \Szynka" |
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12 Mar 2006 11:12:31 PM |
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Russ has always voted taxation and socialism.
His voting record is open. Like Kennedy and
the other Leftists, he continues to be re-elected.
True religious Jews are almost always Conservative.
Feingold is not.
"Leftists = traitors" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Juden. Is he mad because of the port deal with those dirty Arabs? The
Jews in Congress and the Senate have to make up their dirty little
minds; Are they Americans or Israelis?
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| User: "XTS" |
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12 Mar 2006 11:59:40 PM |
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Russ has always voted taxation and socialism.
His voting record is open. Like Kennedy and
the other Leftists, he continues to be re-elected.
You idea of socialism is not the mainstream idea of socialism. You throw the
term lefitists and socialists around, and you don't even know what you are
talking about. You hear your pundits say it, and you just repeat it, like
robot ditto heads. I would love to see one of you in the current crop of
republicans stand up and cut away from the herd mentality, but you all sing
the same song, and thats why your party is turning on your president, and
you have no idea why your president has lost control of somethinga s simple
as our borders, while trying to say he is fighting a war on terror, and you
do not even wonder how one can exist with the other. The answer is, you cant
have a war on terro, with wide open boders, but to you, thats a socialist
notion, even though it is fact based.
True religious Jews are almost always Conservative.
Feingold is not.
Did you ever stop and think that is has nothing to do with religion or being
Jewish, but is an effort ot reign in an out of control president? Because
thats all it is. When you try to over complicate an issue with religion or
something totaly off the subject, you lose focus, and that why bush is out
of control on his policy, because you folks who voted for him have not held
him accountable. Thats why you gripe about his border policies now, because
you allowed him to much lattitude through his administration. No man, no
president deserves more power than his office is entitled, and the president
does not have unlimited power like you republicans want bush to have. And,
bush is not a conseervative, not by a long shot, if you think he is you
should read up on American conservatism.
"Leftists = traitors" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142224865.551993.290830@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Juden. Is he mad because of the port deal with those dirty Arabs? The
Jews in Congress and the Senate have to make up their dirty little
minds; Are they Americans or Israelis?
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| User: "Polish Prince \Szynka" |
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13 Mar 2006 01:17:11 AM |
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Maybe you should read about Socialism and it's impact
upon European society. Is the ideology Left of the center? Most certainly.
I am not a Ditto-Head. I am not a Republican.
I am an independent.
You are absolutely correct.
National Security is impossible with porous borders.
Those that think otherwise are drinking the purple Kool-Aid.
Both parties offer the same drink in different containers.
"XTS" <xts@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3b7Rf.15214$8w2.3652@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Russ has always voted taxation and socialism.
His voting record is open. Like Kennedy and
the other Leftists, he continues to be re-elected.
You idea of socialism is not the mainstream idea of socialism. You throw
the
term lefitists and socialists around, and you don't even know what you are
talking about. You hear your pundits say it, and you just repeat it, like
robot ditto heads. I would love to see one of you in the current crop of
republicans stand up and cut away from the herd mentality, but you all
sing
the same song, and thats why your party is turning on your president, and
you have no idea why your president has lost control of somethinga s
simple
as our borders, while trying to say he is fighting a war on terror, and
you
do not even wonder how one can exist with the other. The answer is, you
cant
have a war on terro, with wide open boders, but to you, thats a socialist
notion, even though it is fact based.
True religious Jews are almost always Conservative.
Feingold is not.
Did you ever stop and think that is has nothing to do with religion or
being
Jewish, but is an effort ot reign in an out of control president? Because
thats all it is. When you try to over complicate an issue with religion or
something totaly off the subject, you lose focus, and that why bush is out
of control on his policy, because you folks who voted for him have not
held
him accountable. Thats why you gripe about his border policies now,
because
you allowed him to much lattitude through his administration. No man, no
president deserves more power than his office is entitled, and the
president
does not have unlimited power like you republicans want bush to have. And,
bush is not a conseervative, not by a long shot, if you think he is you
should read up on American conservatism.
"Leftists = traitors" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142224865.551993.290830@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Juden. Is he mad because of the port deal with those dirty Arabs? The
Jews in Congress and the Senate have to make up their dirty little
minds; Are they Americans or Israelis?
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| User: "XTS" |
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13 Mar 2006 02:05:31 AM |
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:X%8Rf.15497$8w2.2484@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Maybe you should read about Socialism and it's impact
upon European society. Is the ideology Left of the center? Most certainly.
Of course it is, but it does not make all things left of center socialism.
Is fascism right of center?Yes, by definitiont. So, by definition, you are a
fascist. That ***** works both ways kid. You support a one party
dictatorship, does that make you a Nazi. Yes, by a narrow definition it
does. One can play semantics all day. You pick and chose your defintions, so
can I.
I am not a Ditto-Head. I am not a Republican.
I am an independent.
Keep repeating that, sooner or later, you will believe it yourself.
You are absolutely correct.
National Security is impossible with porous borders.
Those that think otherwise are drinking the purple Kool-Aid.
Both parties offer the same drink in different containers.
Your republican party has a destroy America agenda. Dont try to blame
everyone for their evil motive.
I am not going to agree with you, and your weak, lame attemps to lump
everyone into you party, cult of anti-american traitors is not going to
work. You support their Anti-American system, and you are now known by
their, and your own fruits. It's simply to late to change your spots, and
frankly, sickening and shows wha a weak sister you are. You are now bailing
out on what you said was the "right" thing for America. You voted it in,
sorry, you cannot get your vote back. I am a proud loser, because i did not
vote for the fascist you sit at the table with. Sometimes, losing is
winning, but you are not nearly wise enough to understand that. So, keep
screaming you're a winner, no one is listening anymore, but it may give you
comfort. Well, trace is doing exactly the same thing, so perhaps you and her
can co-miserate...you are both miserable winners...LOL!
But, I find you whining trite and boring and will not address it anymore,.
cry on someone elses shoulder.
"XTS" <xts@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3b7Rf.15214$8w2.3652@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Russ has always voted taxation and socialism.
His voting record is open. Like Kennedy and
the other Leftists, he continues to be re-elected.
You idea of socialism is not the mainstream idea of socialism. You throw
the
term lefitists and socialists around, and you don't even know what you
are
talking about. You hear your pundits say it, and you just repeat it,
like
robot ditto heads. I would love to see one of you in the current crop of
republicans stand up and cut away from the herd mentality, but you all
sing
the same song, and thats why your party is turning on your president,
and
you have no idea why your president has lost control of somethinga s
simple
as our borders, while trying to say he is fighting a war on terror, and
you
do not even wonder how one can exist with the other. The answer is, you
cant
have a war on terro, with wide open boders, but to you, thats a
socialist
notion, even though it is fact based.
True religious Jews are almost always Conservative.
Feingold is not.
Did you ever stop and think that is has nothing to do with religion or
being
Jewish, but is an effort ot reign in an out of control president?
Because
thats all it is. When you try to over complicate an issue with religion
or
something totaly off the subject, you lose focus, and that why bush is
out
of control on his policy, because you folks who voted for him have not
held
him accountable. Thats why you gripe about his border policies now,
because
you allowed him to much lattitude through his administration. No man, no
president deserves more power than his office is entitled, and the
president
does not have unlimited power like you republicans want bush to have.
And,
bush is not a conseervative, not by a long shot, if you think he is you
should read up on American conservatism.
"Leftists = traitors" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142224865.551993.290830@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Juden. Is he mad because of the port deal with those dirty Arabs?
The
Jews in Congress and the Senate have to make up their dirty little
minds; Are they Americans or Israelis?
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| User: "-Zebra-" |
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13 Mar 2006 01:46:19 AM |
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:X%8Rf.15497$8w2.2484@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Maybe you should read about Socialism and it's impact
upon European society. Is the ideology Left of the center? Most certainly.
I am not a Ditto-Head. I am not a Republican.
I am an independent.
You are absolutely correct.
National Security is impossible with porous borders.
Those that think otherwise are drinking the purple Kool-Aid.
Both parties offer the same drink in different containers.
You are NOT Imdependent. You posts are cliches right out of the Pug
Handbook for Parrots.
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| User: "Polish Prince \Szynka" |
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13 Mar 2006 02:10:14 AM |
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And they apparently ***** you off.
I have no handbook. I rely upon common sense and observation.
"-Zebra-" <seer@gera.net> wrote in message
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:X%8Rf.15497$8w2.2484@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Maybe you should read about Socialism and it's impact
upon European society. Is the ideology Left of the center? Most
certainly.
I am not a Ditto-Head. I am not a Republican.
I am an independent.
You are absolutely correct.
National Security is impossible with porous borders.
Those that think otherwise are drinking the purple Kool-Aid.
Both parties offer the same drink in different containers.
You are NOT Imdependent. You posts are cliches right out of the Pug
Handbook for Parrots.
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"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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And they apparently ***** you off.
I have no handbook. I rely upon common sense and observation.
....and Fox News, Hannity. O'Reilly, and Rush.
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| User: "gaffo" |
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13 Mar 2006 09:14:59 PM |
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XTS wrote:
"Polish Prince (Szynka)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
message
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Russ has always voted taxation and socialism.
His voting record is open. Like Kennedy and
the other Leftists, he continues to be re-elected.
You idea of socialism is not the mainstream idea of socialism. You
throw the term lefitists and socialists around, and you don't even
know what you are talking about. You hear your pundits say it, and
you just repeat it, like robot ditto heads. I would love to see one
of you in the current crop of republicans stand up and cut away from
the herd mentality, but you all sing the same song, and thats why
your party is turning on your president, and you have no idea why
your president has lost control of somethinga s simple as our
borders, while trying to say he is fighting a war on terror, and you
do not even wonder how one can exist with the other. The answer is,
you cant have a war on terro, with wide open boders, but to you,
thats a socialist notion, even though it is fact based.
True religious Jews are almost always Conservative.
Feingold is not.
Did you ever stop and think that is has nothing to do with religion
or being Jewish, but is an effort ot reign in an out of control
president? Because thats all it is. When you try to over complicate
an issue with religion or something totaly off the subject, you lose
focus, and that why bush is out of control on his policy, because you
folks who voted for him have not held him accountable. Thats why you
gripe about his border policies now, because you allowed him to much
lattitude through his administration. No man, no president deserves
more power than his office is entitled, and the president does not
have unlimited power like you republicans want bush to have.
Amen - NAZIS all.
And,
bush is not a conseervative, not by a long shot, if you think he is
you should read up on American conservatism.
You've got that reich!!
I'm conservative in certain Libertarian areas. conservatives loathe
authority and NEVER TRUST Government.
these brainless Riechbots only want a new Hilter to tell them what to
think and do. Such twits make America look weak and does great shame to
Her legacy.
You are a true Patriot XTS, and what is great about America!
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| User: "Chickenshit Rat Senator Russ Slimemold" |
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| Title: Democrats Flee from Censure Queston |
15 Mar 2006 12:19:59 PM |
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Washington Post
by Dana Milbank
http://snipurl.com/nn0t
Democratic senators, filing in for their weekly caucus lunch
yesterday, looked as if they'd seen a ghost.
"I haven't read it," demurred Barack Obama (Ill.).
"I just don't have enough information," protested Ben Nelson
(Neb.). "I really can't right now," John Kerry (Mass.) said as
he hurried past a knot of reporters -- an excuse that fell apart
when Kerry was forced into an awkward wait as Capitol Police
stopped an aide at the magnetometer.
Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) brushed past the press pack,
shaking her head and waving her hand over her shoulder. When an
errant food cart blocked her entrance to the meeting room, she
tried to hide from reporters behind the 4-foot-11 Barbara
Mikulski (Md.).
"Ask her after lunch," offered Clinton's spokesman, Philippe
Reines. But Clinton, with most of her colleagues, fled the lunch
out a back door as if escaping a fire.
In a sense, they were. The cause of so much evasion was S. Res.
398, the resolution proposed Monday by Sen. Russell Feingold (D-
Wis.) calling for the censure of President Bush for his
warrantless wiretapping program. . . .Feingold single-handedly
turned the debate back to an issue where Bush has the advantage -
- and drove another wedge through his party.
So nonplused were Democrats that even Sen. Charles Schumer
(N.Y.), known for his near-daily news conferences, made history
by declaring, "I'm not going to comment." Would he have a
comment later? "I dunno," the suddenly shy senator said.
Republicans were grateful for the gift. The office of Sen. John
Cornyn (Tex.) put a new "daily feature" on its Web site
monitoring the censure resolution: "Democrat co-sponsors of
Feingold Resolution: 0."
Many of Feingold's Democratic colleagues agree that Bush abused
his authority with the NSA spying program. And they know liberal
Democratic activists are eager to see Bush censured, or worse.
But they also know Feingold's maneuver could cost them seats in
GOP states.
Hence the elaborate efforts to avoid comment. Five Democratic
senators called a news conference yesterday to talk about the
Bush budget's "dangerously irresponsible priorities" -- but
three of them fled the room before allowing questions. The other
two were stuck.
"Was it a good idea for Senator Feingold to bring up this
resolution?" came the first question, from CNN's Ed Henry.
"He brings up some very important issues," Debbie Stabenow
(Mich.) ventured.
Henry was unsatisfied. "So do you support censure, or not?
Stabenow took another stab. "It needs to have hearings," she
said.
Mary Landrieu (La.) pursed her lips. "Senator Feingold has a
point that he wants to make," she said. "We have a point that we
want to make, talking about the budget."
"Senators," an aide interrupted, "we need to go."
Next in the Senate TV gallery came Schumer. An aide hung up a
poster showing a port. The senator called the ports situation
"extremely troubling." The aide hung up a poster of an Exxon
cartoon. "Obscene profits," decreed Schumer, equally
passionately.
CNN's Henry asked the Feingold question. Schumer ended the news
conference.
Outside the Democrats' lunch downstairs, the senators were
similarly agile. The number two Democratic leader, Richard
Durbin (Ill.), darted out of an elevator and into lunch when he
thought nobody was looking.
"I haven't made any judgment," said Jeff Bingaman (N.M.). Two
minutes later, he reappeared. "I will support an alternative
that would call for an investigation," he amended.
The one Democrat happy to talk was Feingold, who, in a pre-lunch
chat with reporters, seemed to enjoy his colleagues' squirms.
"I'm concerned about the approach Democrats are taking, which is
too often cowering," he said.
Feingold, seeking liberals' support for the 2008 presidential
nomination, said he wasn't motivated by politics. But then he
slipped. "If there's any Democrat out there who can't say . . .
the president has no right to make up his own laws, I don't know
if that Democrat really is the right candidate," he said of his
likely primary opponents.
After an hour of closed-door negotiations, Democrats were no
closer to resolving the Feingold rift.
"Most of us feel at best it's premature," announced Sen.
Christopher Dodd (Conn.). "I don't think anyone can say with any
certainty at this juncture that what happened is illegal."
Dodd must not have checked with Sen. Tom Harkin (Iowa). "The
president broke the law and he needs to be held accountable," he
said. "Talk about high crimes and misdemeanors!" Harkin said
he'll vote for the Feingold resolution -- if it comes up.
That gives Feingold two solid votes, including his own. The
rest: avowedly undecided.
Schumer, leaving the lunch, still hadn't found his voice. " He's
gonna talk about it," Schumer said, pointing to Senate
Democratic leader Harry Reid (Nev.).
Reporters, as instructed, asked Reid where he stood. "It's a
question that's been asked 33 times in the last few hours," he
said. "And so, for the 34th time, I'm going to say the same
thing: I'm going to wait . . .''
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15 Mar 2006 06:25:53 PM |
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"Chickenshit Rat Senator Russ Slimemold" <Slimemold@senate.gov> wrote in
message news:44185a52$0$22069$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...
Washington Post
by Dana Milbank
http://snipurl.com/nn0t
Democratic senators, filing in for their weekly caucus lunch
yesterday, looked as if they'd seen a ghost.
"I haven't read it," demurred Barack Obama (Ill.).
"I just don't have enough information," protested Ben Nelson
(Neb.). "I really can't right now," John Kerry (Mass.) said as
he hurried past a knot of reporters -- an excuse that fell apart
when Kerry was forced into an awkward wait as Capitol Police
stopped an aide at the magnetometer.
Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) brushed past the press pack,
shaking her head and waving her hand over her shoulder. When an
errant food cart blocked her entrance to the meeting room, she
tried to hide from reporters behind the 4-foot-11 Barbara
Mikulski (Md.).
"Ask her after lunch," offered Clinton's spokesman, Philippe
Reines. But Clinton, with most of her colleagues, fled the lunch
out a back door as if escaping a fire.
In a sense, they were. The cause of so much evasion was S. Res.
398, the resolution proposed Monday by Sen. Russell Feingold (D-
Wis.) calling for the censure of President Bush for his
warrantless wiretapping program. . . .Feingold single-handedly
turned the debate back to an issue where Bush has the advantage -
- and drove another wedge through his party.
So nonplused were Democrats that even Sen. Charles Schumer
(N.Y.), known for his near-daily news conferences, made history
by declaring, "I'm not going to comment." Would he have a
comment later? "I dunno," the suddenly shy senator said.
Republicans were grateful for the gift. The office of Sen. John
Cornyn (Tex.) put a new "daily feature" on its Web site
monitoring the censure resolution: "Democrat co-sponsors of
Feingold Resolution: 0."
Many of Feingold's Democratic colleagues agree that Bush abused
his authority with the NSA spying program. And they know liberal
Democratic activists are eager to see Bush censured, or worse.
But they also know Feingold's maneuver could cost them seats in
GOP states.
Hence the elaborate efforts to avoid comment. Five Democratic
senators called a news conference yesterday to talk about the
Bush budget's "dangerously irresponsible priorities" -- but
three of them fled the room before allowing questions. The other
two were stuck.
"Was it a good idea for Senator Feingold to bring up this
resolution?" came the first question, from CNN's Ed Henry.
"He brings up some very important issues," Debbie Stabenow
(Mich.) ventured.
Henry was unsatisfied. "So do you support censure, or not?
Stabenow took another stab. "It needs to have hearings," she
said.
Mary Landrieu (La.) pursed her lips. "Senator Feingold has a
point that he wants to make," she said. "We have a point that we
want to make, talking about the budget."
"Senators," an aide interrupted, "we need to go."
Next in the Senate TV gallery came Schumer. An aide hung up a
poster showing a port. The senator called the ports situation
"extremely troubling." The aide hung up a poster of an Exxon
cartoon. "Obscene profits," decreed Schumer, equally
passionately.
CNN's Henry asked the Feingold question. Schumer ended the news
conference.
Outside the Democrats' lunch downstairs, the senators were
similarly agile. The number two Democratic leader, Richard
Durbin (Ill.), darted out of an elevator and into lunch when he
thought nobody was looking.
"I haven't made any judgment," said Jeff Bingaman (N.M.). Two
minutes later, he reappeared. "I will support an alternative
that would call for an investigation," he amended.
The one Democrat happy to talk was Feingold, who, in a pre-lunch
chat with reporters, seemed to enjoy his colleagues' squirms.
"I'm concerned about the approach Democrats are taking, which is
too often cowering," he said.
Feingold, seeking liberals' support for the 2008 presidential
nomination, said he wasn't motivated by politics. But then he
slipped. "If there's any Democrat out there who can't say . . .
the president has no right to make up his own laws, I don't know
if that Democrat really is the right candidate," he said of his
likely primary opponents.
After an hour of closed-door negotiations, Democrats were no
closer to resolving the Feingold rift.
"Most of us feel at best it's premature," announced Sen.
Christopher Dodd (Conn.). "I don't think anyone can say with any
certainty at this juncture that what happened is illegal."
Dodd must not have checked with Sen. Tom Harkin (Iowa). "The
president broke the law and he needs to be held accountable," he
said. "Talk about high crimes and misdemeanors!" Harkin said
he'll vote for the Feingold resolution -- if it comes up.
That gives Feingold two solid votes, including his own. The
rest: avowedly undecided.
Schumer, leaving the lunch, still hadn't found his voice. " He's
gonna talk about it," Schumer said, pointing to Senate
Democratic leader Harry Reid (Nev.).
Reporters, as instructed, asked Reid where he stood. "It's a
question that's been asked 33 times in the last few hours," he
said. "And so, for the 34th time, I'm going to say the same
thing: I'm going to wait . . .''
*****
Ain't it fun to watch to watch them try real hard to cover up the mess Scow
Garbage Feingold made all over the carpet!? Heh, heh, heh!
READ PITHY QUOTES BELOW (ESPECIALLY THE FIRST FOUR)
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"Once born, a government program is nearly impossible to kill. That's mostly
because politicians are spending our money and not their own." --Cal Thomas
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one ho
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright
force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."--
Patrick Henry
"Where there is no vision, the people perish." -- Proverbs 29:18 (Holy
Bible)
"Moonbat libs are like a Slinky...not really good for anything, but you
still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs." --
Anonymous
"We won't stop the protests until the world obeys Islamic law." Sign held by
cult-of-evil cartoon protestor in Toronto
"Free speech ends where my dignity begins." -- Amina Bahloul (college
student protesting at Michigan State University about the Muhammad cartoons)
Hoo-Waw!!
Right is right...and the Left is wrong.Ain't the truth beautiful!!
Cheers,
Dennis, Proud American Neocon Capitalist, Finest Kind Black Irish/English
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