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"laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE" |
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02 Sep 2005 04:56:43 PM |
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FEMA director says New Orleans victims are to blame |
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT)
(CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said
Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to
evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their
fates.
Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death
toll in the city could reach into the thousands.
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you
know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said.
(snip)
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A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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02 Sep 2005 05:41:11 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:56:43 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
<xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT)
(CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said
Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to
evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their
fates.
They do. The ones that had the wherewithal to leave and didn't ended
up overtaxing the facilities that should have been used for those who
had no choice. Then they whined about it after looting the city.
Bill Smith
Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death
toll in the city could reach into the thousands.
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you
know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said.
(snip)
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A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
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| User: "aether" |
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02 Sep 2005 06:03:41 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
Why don't you just say 'Blacks' instead of 'looters'? Give everyone a
break from the artificiality of modern America, and speak frankly. This
country is choking on delusion and cowardice. There would be little
problem and a quick recovery if not for the hordes of Blacks who
inhabit the area.
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| User: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" |
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03 Sep 2005 01:29:01 AM |
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aether wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
Why don't you just say 'Blacks' instead of 'looters'? Give everyone a
break from the artificiality of modern America, and speak frankly. This
country is choking on delusion and cowardice. There would be little
problem and a quick recovery if not for the hordes of Blacks who
inhabit the area.
Most of the looting is being done by the local cops or the fema
vultures. Of course, the media lies to us and says it's the
minorities. Happens every time.
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| User: "?EtjY}" |
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02 Sep 2005 06:45:00 PM |
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aether wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
Why don't you just say 'Blacks' instead of 'looters'? Give everyone a
break from the artificiality of modern America, and speak frankly.
This country is choking on delusion and cowardice. There would be
little problem and a quick recovery if not for the hordes of Blacks
who inhabit the area.
No. Enough of the American BlackSlave/White Master psycho--melodrama. The
looters were looters. Pardon the pun but please call a spade a spade:
New Orleans was looted mostly by blacks still acting out the American Black
Slave/White Master psycho-melodrama. Instead of acting responsibly, hordes
of citizens choose to act like irresponsible children or better yet, like
slaves gone wild after master was incapacitated.
Look at Jamaica. It's not as if Blacks can't govern themselves because they
can. So, while these looters were mostly Black, the plain and simple of it
is that they chose to be looters whatever their skin colour happened to be.
So, I disagree with your assessment. I think it is correct to call a looter
a looter.
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| User: "aether" |
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02 Sep 2005 07:50:35 PM |
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?E=F8tjY<=F0=8D}=D4=F3=A5 wrote:
Look at Jamaica. It's not as if Blacks can't govern themselves because th=
ey
can. So, while these looters were mostly Black, the plain and simple of it
is that they chose to be looters whatever their skin colour happened to b=
e=2E
So, I disagree with your assessment. I think it is correct to call a loot=
er
a looter.
What about Jamaica? It's a crime ridden tourist destination. Tourism
and links to Britain being the *only* reason Jamaica isn't Haiti. Don't
be so naive. They're not looters, they're Africans. Whites inhabit
Louisiana as well, but they're not looting. This is per every law
enforcement and national guard agency in the region. It's Africans
looting. It's Africans doing what they do best in civilized societies:
destroying
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| User: "?EtjY}" |
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03 Sep 2005 07:45:22 AM |
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aether wrote:
?EtjY<} wrote:
Look at Jamaica. It's not as if Blacks can't govern themselves
because they can. So, while these looters were mostly Black, the
plain and simple of it is that they chose to be looters whatever
their skin colour happened to be.
So, I disagree with your assessment. I think it is correct to call a
looter a looter.
What about Jamaica? It's a crime ridden tourist destination. Tourism
and links to Britain being the *only* reason Jamaica isn't Haiti.
Don't be so naive. They're not looters, they're Africans. Whites
inhabit Louisiana as well, but they're not looting. This is per every
law enforcement and national guard agency in the region. It's Africans
looting. It's Africans doing what they do best in civilized societies:
destroying
Sure there's crime in Jamaica. Any country that has a law probably has some
crime. But generally, the people of Jamaica govern themselves and for the
most part the people of Jamaica are Black. Which proves that Blacks are
perfectly capable of governing themselves.
Applied to New Orleans, what this means is that these looters are *choosing*
to loot. It doesn't matter that they are black white red or green. They are
looters plain and simple. It's not because Master is away and they can't
control themselves because they are Black. It's because they choose to loot
[and their skin colour has nothing to do with it].
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| User: "aether" |
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04 Sep 2005 01:11:10 AM |
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But generally, the people of Jamaica govern themselves and for the
most part the people of Jamaica are Black. Which proves that Blacks are
perfectly capable of governing themselves.<<<
Jamaica didn't have a Black prime minister until 1992.
Since that time, crime and violence have increased exponentially.
(http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/html/20031113T210000-0500_51600_OBS_CONTROLLING_CRIME_AND_VIOLENCE_IN_JAMAICA.asp)
The Jamaican economy is declining, and Jamaicans want to leave Jamaica.
(http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/43/154.html)
Jamaica is on it's way to becoming one with other African states.
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| User: "Gods Creator" |
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| Title: Re: FEMA director (Amrican colonisers looted North Korea, Vietnameand now Iraq) |
03 Sep 2005 07:17:56 PM |
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?E=F8t=0Fj=05Y<=F0=8D}=D4=F3=A5 wrote:
aether wrote:
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What about Jamaica? It's a crime ridden tourist destination. Tourism
and links to Britain being the *only* reason Jamaica isn't Haiti.
Don't be so naive. They're not looters, they're Africans. Whites
inhabit Louisiana as well, but they're not looting. This is per every
law enforcement and national guard agency in the region. It's Africans
looting. It's Africans doing what they do best in civilized societies:
destroying
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Sure there's crime in Jamaica. Any country that has a law probably has =
some=20
crime. But generally, the people of Jamaica govern themselves and for t=
he=20
most part the people of Jamaica are Black. Which proves that Blacks are=
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perfectly capable of governing themselves.
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Applied to New Orleans, what this means is that these looters are *choo=
sing*=20
to loot. It doesn't matter that they are black white red or green. They=
are=20
looters plain and simple. It's not because Master is away and they can'=
t=20
control themselves because they are Black. It's because they choose to =
loot=20
[and their skin colour has nothing to do with it].=20
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Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
Some people only loot *small* things...
GOD'S CREATOR
...That was my only sin... :(
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Wise men challenge the unknown seeking more wisdom, others
fall on their hands and knees, close their eyes... and mumble...
Todays U.S. Holy Wars News:
http://www.antiwar.com
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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02 Sep 2005 09:23:53 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT)
(CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said
Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to
evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their
fates.
Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death
toll in the city could reach into the thousands.
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you
know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said.
(snip)
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A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
In other words, you are calling them stupid kooks?
--
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to
function." -+ F. Scott Fitzgerald
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| User: "GW Chimpzilla" |
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03 Sep 2005 01:04:00 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
If only they had been informed in advance that the FEMA director was a total
*****, they might have gotten out in time!
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| User: "Steven L." |
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02 Sep 2005 05:57:59 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept.
A lot of them stayed to have all-night "hurricane parties" in the French
Quarter. We got to watch those wild parties, with music and booze, live
on TV.
Having said that, for the Mayor to have allowed those wild parties to go
on all night like it was Mardi Gras, sent the wrong signal to the other
citizens--that if you could party all night, then maybe this hurricane
ain't so bad after all.
The Mayor should have sent the cops to close down the French Quarter and
send the revelers home. That drastic step would have sent the RIGHT
signal--this is the real thing and it's time to evacuate.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email:
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
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02 Sep 2005 05:45:20 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Welcome to the Federal Department of the Obvious.
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| User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android" |
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02 Sep 2005 06:01:10 PM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
LOL ... Swiftboating the victims after days without food, water and
medical attention. Fucking brilliant.
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| User: "Bob" |
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03 Sep 2005 07:49:44 AM |
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laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT)
(CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said
Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to
evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their
fates.
Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death
toll in the city could reach into the thousands.
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you
know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said.
(snip)
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A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation. "This is the real
deal" wasn't a joke, but a bunch of them took it that way.
Kudo's to Mr. Brown for telling the truth, too bad the folks that hate
truth will kill him with his words.
http://crazypolitics.blogspot.com
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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03 Sep 2005 11:58:23 AM |
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Bob wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
Thursday, September 1, 2005; Posted: 11:41 p.m. EDT (03:41 GMT)
(CNN) -- The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency said
Thursday those New Orleans residents who chose not to heed warnings to
evacuate before Hurricane Katrina bear some responsibility for their
fates.
Michael Brown also agreed with other public officials that the death
toll in the city could reach into the thousands.
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
"I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you
know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," he said.
(snip)
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A lot of them stayed to protect their property from the looters at
FEMA and the police dept. And some just didn't believe the weather
forecasts.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation.
Just being stupid or acting stupid in some circumstance is no reason not
to get emergency assistance. Everyone makes bad choices some time.
--
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to
function." -+ F. Scott Fitzgerald
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| User: "Bob" |
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03 Sep 2005 05:59:26 PM |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation.
Just being stupid or acting stupid in some circumstance is no reason not
to get emergency assistance. Everyone makes bad choices some time.
You are correct, they should get assistance, they should just get it
after those who took part in the emergency evacuation.
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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03 Sep 2005 08:46:58 PM |
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Bob wrote:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation.
Just being stupid or acting stupid in some circumstance is no reason not
to get emergency assistance. Everyone makes bad choices some time.
You are correct, they should get assistance, they should just get it
after those who took part in the emergency evacuation.
The problem is that you have to at least try to triage the situation and
those people on the roofs had to be saved first. I think if they can't
explain why they stayed after being told to leave, they should be
charged for the rescue, fined actually.
--
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to
function." -+ F. Scott Fitzgerald
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| User: "Bob" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:48:06 AM |
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Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation.
Just being stupid or acting stupid in some circumstance is no reason not
to get emergency assistance. Everyone makes bad choices some time.
You are correct, they should get assistance, they should just get it
after those who took part in the emergency evacuation.
The problem is that you have to at least try to triage the situation and
those people on the roofs had to be saved first. I think if they can't
explain why they stayed after being told to leave, they should be
charged for the rescue, fined actually.
Can you see the publicity for that one! I agree with you, they should be
penalized for wasting resources for those who needed the, but it won't
happen, only because of the 24 hour news cycle.
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| User: "David Moffitt" |
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05 Sep 2005 08:55:11 AM |
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"Bob" <caniwatch999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:78XSe.9033$dm.207@lakeread03...
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation') wrote:
Bob wrote:
laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.fema.brown/index.html
FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility
"Unfortunately, that's going to be attributable a lot to people who
did not heed the advance warnings," Brown told CNN.
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
I donated a couple of franklins to the Red Cross yesterday, even though
I know that a chunk of it is going to help those who were too stupid to
listen when the mayor sounded a mandatory evacuation.
Just being stupid or acting stupid in some circumstance is no reason not
to get emergency assistance. Everyone makes bad choices some time.
You are correct, they should get assistance, they should just get it
after those who took part in the emergency evacuation.
The problem is that you have to at least try to triage the situation and
those people on the roofs had to be saved first. I think if they can't
explain why they stayed after being told to leave, they should be
charged for the rescue, fined actually.
Can you see the publicity for that one! I agree with you, they should be
penalized for wasting resources for those who needed the, but it won't
happen, only because of the 24 hour news cycle.
%%%% Triage. You save the ones in the water first. If you are not in danger
you are left there until those in danger are rescued.
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04 Sep 2005 04:11:06 PM |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Bob wrote:
A whole bunch of them have been interviewed and stayed "because I
made it through Camille and Betsy".
People were ingnorant, and chose to disregard warnings, and now are
bitching because, based on their decision, they are suffering.
So they were warned. After the govt lied us into the iraq war how
can you trust them to tell the truth about anything. A lot of people
stayed because they thought the warnings were more BS.
Bush and Cheney have created a culture of distrust and doubt and skepticism
of governement, especially of the Federal government and White House. They
acted like the boy who cried wolf over WMDs in Iraq in order to carry out
their designs on the Iraqi oil fields, and now on one believes a word they
say. Anyway, many of the people left behind were the poor and elderly who
had no means to leave and nowhere to go if they did leave.
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| User: "* US *" |
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03 Sep 2005 05:22:15 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:49:44 -0400, Bob <caniwatch999@yahoo.com> wrote:
... "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
That's how people euphemize it rather than admit
they're too poor, too sick, too unconnected to have
anywhere else to go.
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| User: "Bill Bonde by a commodius vicus of" |
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03 Sep 2005 08:48:24 PM |
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*, US, * wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:49:44 -0400, Bob <caniwatch999@yahoo.com> wrote:
... "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
That's how people euphemize it rather than admit
they're too poor, too sick, too unconnected to have
anywhere else to go.
There were shelters they were told to go to. The people I'm complaining
about were ambulatory.
--
"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to
function." -+ F. Scott Fitzgerald
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| User: "* US *" |
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03 Sep 2005 10:54:58 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:49:44 -0400, Bob <caniwatch999@yahoo.com> wrote:
... "because I made
it through Camille and Betsy".
That's how people euphemize it rather than admit
they're too poor, too sick, too unconnected to have
anywhere else to go.
Even the ones who did as told were needlessly harmed.
The bushkultie gets off on that.
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| User: "* US *" |
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04 Sep 2005 11:37:32 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:13:43 -0500, "Bellsouth Boob" <nobrain@hate.usa> wrote:
... the govt lied about Iraq.
They sure did.
You hope they harm and kill more Americans that way, too.
Why do you hate America?
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