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05 Mar 2004 09:58:02 PM |
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Fewer jobs than last month |
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
The report says there are now 130,153,000 jobs, which is
2,000 _fewer_ than reported last month.
So if the economy has 2,000 fewer jobs, where did the 21,000
jobs number come from? It is the result of the BLS revising
_downward_ the number of jobs created in December and January
by a total of 23,000 jobs.
Those number are from the "Establishment" survey, which is
based on payroll data from business establishments. The
"Household" survey, based on telephone polling, was even worse.
It showed the economy lost 265,000 jobs last month. The
only reason the unemployment rate remained unchanged is
that 392,000 people are no longer counted as part of the
labor force.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
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| User: "billy" |
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| Title: Re: Fewer jobs than last month |
05 Mar 2004 10:33:15 PM |
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"Rent This Space" <russkim26@netscape.net> wrote in message
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If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: Fewer jobs than last month |
05 Mar 2004 10:45:27 PM |
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Subject: Re: Fewer jobs than last month
From: "billy"
Date: 3/5/2004 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <hwc2c.31943$qL1.13907@fed1read02>
"Rent This Space" <russkim26@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:8b829768.0403051958.3f93e05e@posting.google.com...
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
The federal government is allowing 5,000,000 legal immigrants into the United
States and has done so for every year bush has been in office. Some of those
immigrant have come for some of the 21,000 jobs created last month. Thousands
of the legal immigrants will need one of those 21,000 jobs created. Now heaven
only knows how many illegal s are arriving and most of them need jobs.
The 21,000 is not enoug to give jobs to the immigrants. YOu can forge
Americans.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "John Fraud Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 05:39:16 AM |
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"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040305234527.08803.00001023@mb-m13.aol.com...
Subject: Re: Fewer jobs than last month
From: "billy"
Date: 3/5/2004 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <hwc2c.31943$qL1.13907@fed1read02>
"Rent This Space" <russkim26@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:8b829768.0403051958.3f93e05e@posting.google.com...
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
The federal government is allowing 5,000,000 legal immigrants into the
United
States and has done so for every year bush has been in office. Some of
those
immigrant have come for some of the 21,000 jobs created last month.
I fixed your Subject line, now that you lying Democrats have admitted that,
thanks to President Bush, there are MORE jobs now than there were in the
month previous.
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 10:58:56 AM |
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"John Fraud Kerry" <JFK@DNC.com> wrote in message news:<ELi2c.55128$ko6.404234@attbi_s02>...
"InsuranceBroker" <insurancenj@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040305234527.08803.00001023@mb-m13.aol.com...
Subject: Re: Fewer jobs than last month
From: "billy"
Date: 3/5/2004 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <hwc2c.31943$qL1.13907@fed1read02>
"Rent This Space" <russkim26@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:8b829768.0403051958.3f93e05e@posting.google.com...
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
The federal government is allowing 5,000,000 legal immigrants into the
United
States and has done so for every year bush has been in office. Some of
those
immigrant have come for some of the 21,000 jobs created last month.
I fixed your Subject line, now that you lying Democrats have admitted that,
thanks to President Bush, there are MORE jobs now than there were in the
month previous.
And if you look at the detail, you'll see that there was 0 net change
in the private sector, all 21,000 of those new jobs were in the
government sector!
<http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t14.htm>
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 06:48:50 AM |
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Best newsgroup for debates on the topic of Job Outsourcing & Job Sorcery
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alt.computer.consultants
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 06:46:56 AM |
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The economy has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Bush took office
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But rest assured, the economy is healthy.
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| User: "John Fraud Kerry" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 06:52:17 AM |
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<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0vhj401n0jf05t5eeir5mbpk8jatef6u5l@4ax.com...
The economy has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Bush took office
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Nope, the economy has GAINED 776,000 new jobs since President Bush took
office.
The number of jobs in America is now at the highest number it has EVER been
in America's history.
You Democrats are NOT going to be able to lie your way into the Oval Office.
Unless and until you Democrats start telling the truth and stating the facts
accurately, you WILL continue losing the elections. The lamestream media
can no longer run sufficient cover for your Party's lies. Al Gore's
Internet has changed the rules of the ballgame, Baby.
Get a mental grip, Lefty.
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| User: "rhoadie" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
07 Mar 2004 02:00:38 AM |
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"John Fraud Kerry" <JFK@DNC.com> wrote in
news:5Qj2c.474947$I06.5306369@attbi_s01:
<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0vhj401n0jf05t5eeir5mbpk8jatef6u5l@4ax.com...
The economy has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Bush
took office
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Nope, the economy has GAINED 776,000 new jobs since
President Bush took office.
The number of jobs in America is now at the highest number
it has EVER been in America's history.
You Democrats are NOT going to be able to lie your way into
the Oval Office. Unless and until you Democrats start
telling the truth and stating the facts accurately, you
WILL continue losing the elections. The lamestream media
can no longer run sufficient cover for your Party's lies.
Al Gore's Internet has changed the rules of the ballgame,
Baby.
Get a mental grip, Lefty.
Actually, that number peaked in June, 2003 at 146,917,000.
Since then we have lost 446,000 jobs, while the total
available labor force has increased by about 1,343,000.
(ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt)
Learn to read and understand, or kindly shut your
man-pleaser.
rhoadie.
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
07 Mar 2004 08:15:24 AM |
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Subject: Re: More jobs than last month
From: rhoadie
Date: 3/7/2004 3:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <Xns94A5A483F60Frhoadiehomecom@140.99.99.130>
"John Fraud Kerry" <JFK@DNC.com> wrote in
news:5Qj2c.474947$I06.5306369@attbi_s01:
<grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0vhj401n0jf05t5eeir5mbpk8jatef6u5l@4ax.com...
The economy has lost 2.2 million jobs since President Bush
took office
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Nope, the economy has GAINED 776,000 new jobs since
President Bush took office.
The number of jobs in America is now at the highest number
it has EVER been in America's history.
You Democrats are NOT going to be able to lie your way into
the Oval Office. Unless and until you Democrats start
telling the truth and stating the facts accurately, you
WILL continue losing the elections. The lamestream media
can no longer run sufficient cover for your Party's lies.
Al Gore's Internet has changed the rules of the ballgame,
Baby.
Get a mental grip, Lefty.
Actually, that number peaked in June, 2003 at 146,917,000.
Since then we have lost 446,000 jobs, while the total
available labor force has increased by about 1,343,000.
The government numbers are cooked. They are allowing millions into the country
via legal immigration and also legal work visas. The legal work visa show up
in jobs created but they really are not.
Millions of American workers have been forced into early retirement even if
they did not want to retire. They received much lower benefits but they were
not given the choice. They are not in the worlk force.
(ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt)
Learn to read and understand, or kindly shut your
man-pleaser.
rhoadie.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "rhoadie" |
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| Title: Re: More jobs than last month |
07 Mar 2004 04:43:54 PM |
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(InsuranceBroker) wrote in
news:20040307091524.28437.00000908@mb-m29.aol.com:
<snip>
Actually, that number peaked in June, 2003 at 146,917,000.
Since then we have lost 446,000 jobs, while the total
available labor force has increased by about 1,343,000.
The government numbers are cooked. They are allowing
millions into the country via legal immigration and also
legal work visas. The legal work visa show up in jobs
created but they really are not. Millions of American
workers have been forced into early retirement even if they
did not want to retire. They received much lower benefits
but they were not given the choice. They are not in the
worlk force.
Gotta disagree on this one, IB - nothing personal...
Legal work visas are not part of either the Household
Data set or the Establishment Data set. They aren't
counted as "employed" unless they are actually working
in a non-farm occupation.
Early retirements are a contributing factor, but one
which is dwarfed by the sheer numbers who have exhausted
their unemployment benefits without finding work, and
thus are not included in the Civilian Labor Force by
the BLS. The only "true" measure is the total percentage
of employed compared to the population.
Since Bush took office in 2001, the percentage of
Americans at work has decreased from 63.7% to 62.2% -
for a net employment shortfall (based on the current
population estimate of 222,357,000 16 years and older)
of 3,335,355 jobs.
This is what Bush has accomplished: He put 3.3 million
Americans out of work.
<sarcasm>
What a leader!
</sarcasm>
rhoadie.
ps. Hope the insurance biz is good! Are you hiring? ;)
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| User: "z" |
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| Title: Re: Fewer jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 11:00:44 AM |
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(InsuranceBroker) wrote in message news:<20040305234527.08803.00001023@mb-m13.aol.com>...
Subject: Re: Fewer jobs than last month
From: "billy"
Date: 3/5/2004 11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <hwc2c.31943$qL1.13907@fed1read02>
"Rent This Space" <russkim26@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:8b829768.0403051958.3f93e05e@posting.google.com...
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet
The federal government is allowing 5,000,000 legal immigrants into the United
States and has done so for every year bush has been in office. Some of those
immigrant have come for some of the 21,000 jobs created last month. Thousands
of the legal immigrants will need one of those 21,000 jobs created. Now heaven
only knows how many illegal s are arriving and most of them need jobs.
The 21,000 is not enoug to give jobs to the immigrants. YOu can forge
Americans.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
The private sector netted zero increased jobs last month, all 21,000
jobs were in the government sector.
<http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t14.htm>
Are you suggesting Bush is hiring illegal aliens?
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| User: "whatif" |
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| Title: Re: Fewer jobs than last month |
06 Mar 2004 07:02:31 AM |
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(Rent This Space) wrote in message news:<8b829768.0403051958.3f93e05e@posting.google.com>...
If you thought the media reports of 21,000 jobs created last
month was disapointing, a closer look at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics report is even worse.
The report says there are now 130,153,000 jobs, which is
2,000 _fewer_ than reported last month.
So if the economy has 2,000 fewer jobs, where did the 21,000
jobs number come from? It is the result of the BLS revising
_downward_ the number of jobs created in December and January
by a total of 23,000 jobs.
Those number are from the "Establishment" survey, which is
based on payroll data from business establishments. The
"Household" survey, based on telephone polling, was even worse.
It showed the economy lost 265,000 jobs last month. The
only reason the unemployment rate remained unchanged is
that 392,000 people are no longer counted as part of the
labor force.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
And, hundreds of thousands more will drop off the unemployment stats
this
next month, so it goes on and on and on, still hundreds and hundreds
of thousands of unemployed people, no longer being 'counted' and
getting benefits, and shrub pats himself on the back, I HOPE all these
people vote this fall and remember how long they were unemployed with
NO help from this ***** and his administration! In fact, one of his top
people said it was GOOD for Americans to ship our jobs overseas! Nice
one, brilliant people in this administration, guess no one is hired if
they are smarter than the 70 IQ Prez himself!
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