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"GW Chimpzilla" |
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29 Sep 2005 12:35:59 PM |
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Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
The situation in Iraq is getting worse by the day. The concern is growing
stronger among our allies:
"The administration has come under growing pressure at home and abroad over the
past two weeks, with dire warnings from Arab allies and a prominent
international group about the looming disintegration of Iraq. In an unusual
public rebuke of U.S. policy, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called a news
conference in Washington last week to predict Iraq's dissolution. He said there
is no leadership or momentum to pull Iraq's Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds back
together and prevent a civil war. Other countries have expressed similar
concerns in private, according to U.S. and Arab diplomats."
Dire warnings. No leadership or momentum. That's so frightening. So what's the
Bush plan? Another public relations offensive:
"In a push to boost public support for his Iraq policy, Bush will give a speech
on Oct. 6. Vice President Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also
will give major foreign policy addresses over the next week."
Yes, they're going to give more speeches. Their incompetence would be pathetic
if it wasn't killing so many people.
<http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/iraq-disintegratingbut-fear-not-bush.html>
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 01:58:51 PM |
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Floundering Bush?
The only flounders flopping on this beach are the liberal Democrats.
They can't do squat about anything at all - because they are the minority
party - which means they get to watch.
So, being basically powerless, who is it again that only has the options of
speechifying, filibustering, propagandizing, lying and exaggeration in their
bag of tricks?
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| User: "GW Chimpzilla" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 02:32:22 PM |
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Docky Wocky wrote:
Floundering Bush?
The only flounders flopping on this beach are the liberal Democrats.
They can't do squat about anything at all - because they are the minority
party - which means they get to watch.
So, being basically powerless, who is it again that only has the options of
speechifying, filibustering, propagandizing, lying and exaggeration in their
bag of tricks?
You corrupt conservatives think you can ***** yourself out of reality like an
Orwell novel. Iraq is a total disaster, and you pretend that everything there
is just fine and dandy.
Who are you fooling? Even the dumbest of the dumb know now that you are phony
assholes just after your own greed.
Everything with you conservatives comes down to just one thing: more for the
separated self and everyone else can just *****.
Well, the chickens are coming home to roost -- you conservatives are on the way
out and back to jail where you belong.
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| User: "XTS" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 04:37:55 PM |
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"GW Chimpzilla" <gw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ajX_e.415416$xm3.270964@attbi_s21...
Docky Wocky wrote:
Floundering Bush?
The only flounders flopping on this beach are the liberal Democrats.
They can't do squat about anything at all - because they are the
minority
party - which means they get to watch.
So, being basically powerless, who is it again that only has the options
of
speechifying, filibustering, propagandizing, lying and exaggeration in
their
bag of tricks?
You corrupt conservatives think you can ***** yourself out of reality
like an
Orwell novel. Iraq is a total disaster, and you pretend that everything
there
is just fine and dandy.
Who are you fooling? Even the dumbest of the dumb know now that you are
phony
assholes just after your own greed.
Everything with you conservatives comes down to just one thing: more for
the
separated self and everyone else can just *****.
Well, the chickens are coming home to roost -- you conservatives are on
the way
out and back to jail where you belong.
Yes, the roundup has begun. Delay, Frist, then goes Rove, Libby, and after
that, bigger fish wll fry. All the republicans have now is the futility of
their propganda, and the catapaults are not slinging it as far as they used
to. It falls well short of believing ears. The American people are tired of
hearing *****. The question is, when will the press be releaesed from
reporting it?
January of 2006, will bring about a campaign storm. Only one of 2 possible
things will transpire. Either the GOP will mount a full force offensive
here at home, with another diasaster, and declare the USA in a state
emergency, and suspend the constitution, put the Patriot act into the full
force it was intended for, or, the whole thing will come crashing down on
them from their own corruption, and they will be rendered impotent for at
least a decade.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 12:49:36 PM |
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I am still waiting for someone to outline what the plan is.
Presently its democracy takes over, a strong central government is born
with overwhelming support and it trains and army that can go out and
take control over the Sunni region.
That was a possible plan for the middle of 2003, when the revolution in
Iraq was just starting, but now on the verge of 2006 and 2000 dead the
process is not working.
If the US is going to win the war there must be some plan to defeat the
insuragents in depth, to utterly crush them so that the new Iraqi
government can form.
This was not plan for when the current occupation was planned out. But
now that this is clear there is no new plan, we are using the same plan
with a few marginal strikes here and a few back. The revolution in
Iraq can go on for 10 more years at this rate. In fact the longer it
goes on the worse it becomes for the US, as more and more Jihadist
flood in to the country creating a mass movement.
At the end of the day 10,000s of men are going to come out of Iraq with
direct combat experience with the US. If this goes on for 5 more years
it could be over 100,000. What do you imagine they will want to do?
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| User: "Ron Olin" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 01:03:09 PM |
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Presently its democracy takes over, a strong central government is born
with overwhelming support and it trains and army that can go out and
take control over the Sunni region.
= ethnic cleansing?
That was a possible plan for the middle of 2003, when the revolution in
Iraq was just starting, but now on the verge of 2006 and 2000 dead the
process is not working.
If the US is going to win the war there must be some plan to defeat the
insuragents in depth, to utterly crush them so that the new Iraqi
government can form.
Win the war? Against whom. Every time an American GI slaughters an Iraqi -
you create ten enemies. Unless you are prepared to kill everyone - you will
never "win".
This was not plan for when the current occupation was planned out. But
now that this is clear there is no new plan, we are using the same plan
with a few marginal strikes here and a few back. The revolution in
Iraq can go on for 10 more years at this rate. In fact the longer it
goes on the worse it becomes for the US, as more and more Jihadist
flood in to the country creating a mass movement.
At the end of the day 10,000s of men are going to come out of Iraq with
direct combat experience with the US. If this goes on for 5 more years
it could be over 100,000. What do you imagine they will want to do?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 12:49:40 PM |
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I am still waiting for someone to outline what the plan is.
Presently its democracy takes over, a strong central government is born
with overwhelming support and it trains and army that can go out and
take control over the Sunni region.
That was a possible plan for the middle of 2003, when the revolution in
Iraq was just starting, but now on the verge of 2006 and 2000 dead the
process is not working.
If the US is going to win the war there must be some plan to defeat the
insuragents in depth, to utterly crush them so that the new Iraqi
government can form.
This was not plan for when the current occupation was planned out. But
now that this is clear there is no new plan, we are using the same plan
with a few marginal strikes here and a few back. The revolution in
Iraq can go on for 10 more years at this rate. In fact the longer it
goes on the worse it becomes for the US, as more and more Jihadist
flood in to the country creating a mass movement.
At the end of the day 10,000s of men are going to come out of Iraq with
direct combat experience with the US. If this goes on for 5 more years
it could be over 100,000. What do you imagine they will want to do?
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| User: "Rob Olsen" |
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| Title: Re: Floundering Bush to Solve Iraq Quagmire with Speeches |
29 Sep 2005 12:39:53 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:35:59 GMT, GW Chimpzilla <gw@hotmail.com>
wrote:
If speeches are the only weapons in his arsenal, , he's in deep
sheet. The idiot can hardly speak.
The situation in Iraq is getting worse by the day. The concern is growing
stronger among our allies:
"The administration has come under growing pressure at home and abroad over the
past two weeks, with dire warnings from Arab allies and a prominent
international group about the looming disintegration of Iraq. In an unusual
public rebuke of U.S. policy, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister called a news
conference in Washington last week to predict Iraq's dissolution. He said there
is no leadership or momentum to pull Iraq's Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds back
together and prevent a civil war. Other countries have expressed similar
concerns in private, according to U.S. and Arab diplomats."
Dire warnings. No leadership or momentum. That's so frightening. So what's the
Bush plan? Another public relations offensive:
"In a push to boost public support for his Iraq policy, Bush will give a speech
on Oct. 6. Vice President Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice also
will give major foreign policy addresses over the next week."
Yes, they're going to give more speeches. Their incompetence would be pathetic
if it wasn't killing so many people.
<http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/09/iraq-disintegratingbut-fear-not-bush.html>
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Ever wonder why our president is a psychopath?
"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I
mean, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my
beautiful mind on something like that?"
-Barbra Bush when asked about deaths of soldiers in Iraq
"And so many of the people in the arena here, you know,
were underprivileged anyway, so this (she chuckles
slightly)--this is working very well for
them."
--Barbra bush talking about Katrina refugees
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