Politics > Politics-USA > Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches "Unfit for Command" lies
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22 Aug 2004 02:46:45 AM |
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Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches "Unfit for Command" lies |
Down in flames goes one more GOP canard!
PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A journalist who commanded a boat alongside
John Kerry (news - web sites) in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on
Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against
Republican critics of his military service and integrity.
William Rood of the Chicago Tribune said the tales told by Kerry's
detractors are simply untrue.
"There were three swift boats on the river that day in Vietnam more
than 35 years ago -- three officers and 15 crew members. Only two of
those officers remain to talk about what happened on February 28,
1969," he wrote in a story on the newspaper's Web site.
"One is John Kerry ... who won a Silver Star for what happened on that
date. I am the other."
Before now, Rood refused all interviews, wanting to put memories of
war and killing behind him. "But Kerry's critics, armed with stories I
know to be untrue, have charged that the accounts of what happened
were overblown," he wrote.
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In the February 1969 operation, Rood said Kerry came under Viet Cong
rocket and automatic weapons fire and devised an aggressive and
unusual attack strategy praised by superiors.
In their book, "Unfit for Command," John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi
accuse Kerry of exaggeration and said his attack on the ambush
displayed "stupidity, not courage."
"The only explanation for what Kerry did is the same justification
that characterizes his entire short Vietnam adventure: the pursuit of
medals and ribbons," they alleged.
O'Neill issued a statement on Saturday saying Rood's criticism of
"Unfit for Command" was "extremely unfair" and "an obvious political
move." He said he had tried to interview Rood for the book, but Rood
did not return phone calls.
Rood said ambushes were common, but the difference was that Kerry, in
tactical command of the operation, had talked to Rood and other
commanders about not responding as they usually did.
"We agreed that if we were not crippled by the initial volley and had
a clear fix on the location of the ambush, we would turn directly into
it, focusing the boats' twin .50-caliber machine guns on the attackers
and beaching the boats," Rood said.
He said the first time they took fire Kerry ordered a "turn 90" and
the three boats roared in on the ambush.
The plan worked. "We routed the ambush, killing three of the
attackers. The troops, led by an Army adviser, jumped off the boats
and began a sweep, which killed another half dozen VC, wounded or
captured others," Rood said.
Rood said then-Capt. and now retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the task
force commander, congratulated the three boats, saying the tactic of
charging the ambushes was a "shining example of completely
overwhelming the enemy."
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=1&u=/nm/20040822/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc
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| User: "Alex" |
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23 Aug 2004 03:49:50 PM |
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"William p.f." <war_criminal@wh.con> schreef in bericht
news:9djgi05ur8p6cl8roj0k970e2k98tvr16u@4ax.com...
Down in flames goes one more GOP canard!
PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A journalist who commanded a boat alongside
John Kerry (news - web sites) in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on
Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against
Republican critics of his military service and integrity.
William Rood of the Chicago Tribune said the tales told by Kerry's
detractors are simply untrue.
"There were three swift boats on the river that day in Vietnam more
than 35 years ago -- three officers and 15 crew members. Only two of
those officers remain to talk about what happened on February 28,
1969," he wrote in a story on the newspaper's Web site.
"One is John Kerry ... who won a Silver Star for what happened on that
date. I am the other."
Well that should settle it. Perhaps even Fox News will have
the decency to admit the "swiftboat veterans for truth" are
a political group and let it rest.
Alex
Rood said ambushes were common, but the difference was that Kerry, in
tactical command of the operation, had talked to Rood and other
commanders about not responding as they usually did.
"We agreed that if we were not crippled by the initial volley and had
a clear fix on the location of the ambush, we would turn directly into
it, focusing the boats' twin .50-caliber machine guns on the attackers
and beaching the boats," Rood said.
He said the first time they took fire Kerry ordered a "turn 90" and
the three boats roared in on the ambush.
The plan worked. "We routed the ambush, killing three of the
attackers. The troops, led by an Army adviser, jumped off the boats
and began a sweep, which killed another half dozen VC, wounded or
captured others," Rood said.
Rood said then-Capt. and now retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the task
force commander, congratulated the three boats, saying the tactic of
charging the ambushes was a "shining example of completely
overwhelming the enemy."
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=1&u=/nm/20040822/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc
wpf
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| User: "Peter Pan" |
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22 Aug 2004 03:34:03 AM |
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"William p.f." <war_criminal@wh.con> wrote in message
news:9djgi05ur8p6cl8roj0k970e2k98tvr16u@4ax.com...
Down in flames goes one more GOP canard!
PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A journalist who commanded a boat alongside
John Kerry (news - web sites) in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on
Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against
Republican critics of his military service and integrity.
Lies snipped....
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behind
the hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own words,
did *not* witness it, he can only go by what kerry told him...
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| User: "" |
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22 Aug 2004 04:07:45 AM |
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"William p.f." <war_criminal@wh.con> wrote in message
news:9djgi05ur8p6cl8roj0k970e2k98tvr16u@4ax.com...
Down in flames goes one more GOP canard!
PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A journalist who commanded a boat alongside
John Kerry (news - web sites) in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on
Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against
Republican critics of his military service and integrity.
Lies snipped....
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behind
the hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own words,
did *not* witness it, he can only go by what kerry told him...
How bout those other veterans that weren't even there that day.
Even if your conclusion is this new information is heresy.
You are just picking the heresy from the others because it's what you want
to believe.
And all of this is still compared to a soldier who got away with desertion
from the National Guard.
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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22 Aug 2004 06:18:51 AM |
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"owl_1971@hotmail.com"
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"William p.f." <war_criminal@wh.con> wrote in message
news:9djgi05ur8p6cl8roj0k970e2k98tvr16u@4ax.com...
Down in flames goes one more GOP canard!
PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - A journalist who commanded a boat alongside
John Kerry (news - web sites) in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on
Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against
Republican critics of his military service and integrity.
Lies snipped....
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the
man
he chased behind
the hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words,
did *not* witness it, he can only go by what kerry told him...
How bout those other veterans that weren't even there that day.
Even if your conclusion is this new information is heresy.
You are just picking the heresy from the others because it's what you want
to believe.
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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22 Aug 2004 08:01:52 AM |
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in message
news:vi%Vc.9548
[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
But you knew this.
Scum.
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| User: "Peter Pan" |
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22 Aug 2004 11:21:57 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in message
news:vi%Vc.9548
[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
But you knew this.
Scum.
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry told him...
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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22 Aug 2004 11:38:08 AM |
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in message
news:vi%Vc.9548
[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
But you knew this.
Scum.
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry told
him...
However, he IS eyewitness testimony to many other parts of the story.
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| User: "Peter Pan" |
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22 Aug 2004 11:58:45 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in
message
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[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE
supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
But you knew this.
Scum.
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the
man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry told
him...
However, he IS eyewitness testimony to many other parts of the story.
I don't recall him claiming to be ANY sort of witness to what kerry claims
happened and has burned into his memory... One thing comes to mind,
Something about being in Cambodia over xmas in 1968 under nixon, when nixon
wasn't even president yet! Why didn't he testify to that also? He was on the
boat wasn't he? He should have that burned into his memory also, yet not a
word. Come to think of it, not a single one of the people on the boat
remember ever being in cambodia xmas eve of 68 as Kerry claimed over and
over. Where was the crew when that supposedly happened?
Personally, if one facet of the story is a provable lie, it makes other
claims a lot less beleivable.
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| User: "" |
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22 Aug 2004 12:36:13 PM |
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in
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[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE
supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have
said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
But you knew this.
Scum.
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes
the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the
man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all
know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry told
him...
However, he IS eyewitness testimony to many other parts of the story.
I don't recall him claiming to be ANY sort of witness to what kerry claims
happened and has burned into his memory... One thing comes to mind,
Something about being in Cambodia over xmas in 1968 under nixon, when
nixon
wasn't even president yet! Why didn't he testify to that also? He was on
the
boat wasn't he? He should have that burned into his memory also, yet not a
word. Come to think of it, not a single one of the people on the boat
remember ever being in cambodia xmas eve of 68 as Kerry claimed over and
over. Where was the crew when that supposedly happened?
Personally, if one facet of the story is a provable lie, it makes other
claims a lot less beleivable.
Personally is right.
Personally you default to believe the claims of the "Swift Boaters" when
this new witness was there, and confirmed the swift boaters were not.
I could make a bunch of claims about what happened that day, but since I
feel it's pretty easy to prove I wasn't there I wouldn't do it.
So why would you believe the others that were not there ?
Oh I forgot... because they are smearing Kerry so they must be correct and
don't have to witness it to be correct.
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| User: "Peter Pan" |
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22 Aug 2004 12:52:58 PM |
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"owl_1971@hotmail.com"
<owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes
the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed
the
man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all
know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry told
him...
However, he IS eyewitness testimony to many other parts of the story.
I don't recall him claiming to be ANY sort of witness to what kerry
claims
happened and has burned into his memory... One thing comes to mind,
Something about being in Cambodia over xmas in 1968 under nixon, when
nixon
wasn't even president yet! Why didn't he testify to that also? He was on
the
boat wasn't he? He should have that burned into his memory also, yet not
a
word. Come to think of it, not a single one of the people on the boat
remember ever being in cambodia xmas eve of 68 as Kerry claimed over and
over. Where was the crew when that supposedly happened?
Personally, if one facet of the story is a provable lie, it makes other
claims a lot less beleivable.
Personally is right.
Personally you default to believe the claims of the "Swift Boaters" when
this new witness was there, and confirmed the swift boaters were not.
I could make a bunch of claims about what happened that day, but since I
feel it's pretty easy to prove I wasn't there I wouldn't do it.
So why would you believe the others that were not there ?
Oh I forgot... because they are smearing Kerry so they must be correct and
don't have to witness it to be correct.
Obviously you didn't read the whole article....
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness, and even said so in the article...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behind the hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it was NOT
first hand knowledge (or eyewitness), but heresay from kerry..
He, in his own words, state that he was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only
parrot what kerry told him...
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| User: "" |
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22 Aug 2004 07:03:28 PM |
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"owl_1971@hotmail.com"
<owl_1971_spammers_tongues_are_toilet_paper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5I2dnc6KKsbxRLXcRVn-tg@comcast.com...
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally
changes
the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed
the
man
he chased behindthe hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it
was NOT first hand knowledge, but heresay from kerry.. (and we all
know
kerry lies/flip flops whenever he opens his mouth). He, in his own
words, was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only parrot what kerry
told
him...
However, he IS eyewitness testimony to many other parts of the
story.
I don't recall him claiming to be ANY sort of witness to what kerry
claims
happened and has burned into his memory... One thing comes to mind,
Something about being in Cambodia over xmas in 1968 under nixon, when
nixon
wasn't even president yet! Why didn't he testify to that also? He was
on
the
boat wasn't he? He should have that burned into his memory also, yet
not
a
word. Come to think of it, not a single one of the people on the boat
remember ever being in cambodia xmas eve of 68 as Kerry claimed over
and
over. Where was the crew when that supposedly happened?
Personally, if one facet of the story is a provable lie, it makes
other
claims a lot less beleivable.
Personally is right.
Personally you default to believe the claims of the "Swift Boaters" when
this new witness was there, and confirmed the swift boaters were not.
I could make a bunch of claims about what happened that day, but since I
feel it's pretty easy to prove I wasn't there I wouldn't do it.
So why would you believe the others that were not there ?
Oh I forgot... because they are smearing Kerry so they must be correct
and
don't have to witness it to be correct.
Obviously you didn't read the whole article....
Too bad he was **NOT** an eyewitness, and even said so in the article...
Obviously you missed this part in the article (that totally changes the
meaning) where he states:
"Not long after that, Kerry returned, reporting that he had killed the man
he chased behind the hooch."
Notice where it says "Kerry returned, reporting", that means it was NOT
first hand knowledge (or eyewitness), but heresay from kerry..
He, in his own words, state that he was *NOT* an eye witness, and can only
parrot what kerry told him...
Well I don't say ditto to that.
The information you are judging Kerry on for that event is from heresay from
people who were NOT there.
The others can only parrot what they made up. They weren't there that day
to make any account for the events what so ever.
You attempting to make something out of a chain of words in a written
sentence
but you are ignoring the testimony that declares accusations made from the
swift vote veterans were from people that were NOT present.
Since the were not present their testimony on that day is no more accurate
then their accounting for...
What happened to Joan Bennet Ramsey.
Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman.
What other historic days are the swift boat vets experts on ?
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| User: "DDB" |
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22 Aug 2004 01:16:48 PM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in message
news:vi%Vc.9548
[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
The point is that even in the article it points to hearsey evidence! It
clearly referes to the guy saying he is reporting on what Kerry told him
not eye witness accounts of anything.
But you knew this.
Scum.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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22 Aug 2004 01:45:15 PM |
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"DDB" <IHatNoOne@Fakecomcast.net> wrote in message
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <NegativeLoser@johnkerry.com> wrote in message
news:vi%Vc.9548
[...]
Just as YOU are picking to trust the liar Kerry and his ONE supporter,
rather than trust the word of SCORES of Vietnam vets who have said,
consistently and openly all along, that Kerry is lying.
One eyewittness testimony overturns a million hearsay claims.
The point is that even in the article it points to hearsey evidence! It
clearly referes to the guy saying he is reporting on what Kerry told him
not eye witness accounts of anything.
The guy says that Kerry was under fire. The Swift Boat Veterans claim
otherwise. That's eyewitness testimony. So was the testimony about how old
the guy was and what he was wearing.
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| User: "Michael Medved" |
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22 Aug 2004 05:30:42 PM |
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In misc.invest.stocks LawsonE <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
The guy says that Kerry was under fire. The Swift Boat Veterans claim
otherwise. That's eyewitness testimony. So was the testimony about how old
the guy was and what he was wearing.
Ok let's see. One guy who was there claims that there was enemy fire.
Other guys who were there (the SBVfT group), including the guy whose
boat actually hit the mine that started the whole incident, claim
that there was none. Yet you call one "eyewitness testimony" and the
other "hearsay". Can you explain why?
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| User: "InsuranceBroker" |
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| Title: Re: Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches "Unfit for Command" lies |
22 Aug 2004 06:51:31 PM |
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Subject: Re: Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches
"Unfit for Command" lies
From: Michael Medved
Date: 8/22/2004 6:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <m89Wc.2020$1e.1681@nntp-post.primus.ca>
In misc.invest.stocks LawsonE <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
The guy says that Kerry was under fire. The Swift Boat Veterans claim
otherwise. That's eyewitness testimony. So was the testimony about how old
the guy was and what he was wearing.
Ok let's see. One guy who was there claims that there was enemy fire.
Other guys who were there (the SBVfT group), including the guy whose
boat actually hit the mine that started the whole incident, claim
that there was none. Yet you call one "eyewitness testimony" and the
other "hearsay". Can you explain why?
Thurlow who claims that there was no fire also just stated that he was unware
that he had won the bonze medal. He claims kerry wrote the recommendation and
he was not told. The problem is thurlow has hundreds of photographs in unifrom
were he is wearing the bronze star that he claims he did not know about. do
you think kerry crawed into thurlow home and pinned the bonze star on when
thurwas asleep?
Sorry buddy but the more you look at the swift boat group the more clear they
show as paid whores.
Doing Insurance business in the Garden State
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| User: "Mike" |
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| Title: Re: Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches "Unfit for Command" lies |
23 Aug 2004 12:28:49 AM |
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(InsuranceBroker) wrote in message news:<20040822195131.07394.00001593@mb-m15.aol.com>...
Subject: Re: Former Swift Boat Commander Backs Kerry, and Publicly Squelches
"Unfit for Command" lies
From: Michael Medved
Date: 8/22/2004 6:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <m89Wc.2020$1e.1681@nntp-post.primus.ca>
In misc.invest.stocks LawsonE <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
The guy says that Kerry was under fire. The Swift Boat Veterans claim
otherwise. That's eyewitness testimony. So was the testimony about how old
the guy was and what he was wearing.
Ok let's see. One guy who was there claims that there was enemy fire.
Other guys who were there (the SBVfT group), including the guy whose
boat actually hit the mine that started the whole incident, claim
that there was none. Yet you call one "eyewitness testimony" and the
other "hearsay". Can you explain why?
Thurlow who claims that there was no fire also just stated that he was unware
that he had won the bonze medal. He claims kerry wrote the recommendation and
he was not told. The problem is thurlow has hundreds of photographs in unifrom
were he is wearing the bronze star that he claims he did not know about. do
you think kerry crawed into thurlow home and pinned the bonze star on when
thurwas asleep?
Sorry buddy but the more you look at the swift boat group the more clear they
show as paid whores.
Yadda yadda. Thurlow is not the only one. There are also Chenoweth and
Pees - people who were in the thick of it, and would have heard the
enemy fire if it was there. Are all of them lying?
Basically, there are a few veterans who are friends of Kerry's and
who claim that there was enemy fire. There are a few veterans who
dislike Kerry and who claim that there was no enemy fire. All of
them were there. All of them are "eyewitnesses". What is your reason
to believe one group and disbelieve the other?
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| User: "BadPony" |
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| Title: Swiftboat backfire |
22 Aug 2004 08:36:30 PM |
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Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
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| User: "Frankie Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 01:44:08 AM |
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Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as credentials or
qualifications.
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
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| User: "LawsonE" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 04:20:22 AM |
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"Frankie Lee" <s9641351@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:cgc2ao$pgg$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as credentials
or
qualifications.
Every Vet who has ever run for US Presidency uses his veteran's credentials,
even GW Bush.
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 09:35:23 AM |
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"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qFiWc.31174$9Y6.16634@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Frankie Lee" <s9641351@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:cgc2ao$pgg$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as
credentials
or
qualifications.
Every Vet who has ever run for US Presidency uses his veteran's
credentials,
even GW Bush.
Most of them don't have the treasonous background Kerry has and a twenty
year anti-military congressional record! They can run on other assets.
Kerry can't!
jt
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| User: "BadPony" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 10:03:31 AM |
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John Tibbs wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qFiWc.31174$9Y6.16634@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Frankie Lee" <s9641351@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:cgc2ao$pgg$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as
credentials
or
qualifications.
Every Vet who has ever run for US Presidency uses his veteran's
credentials,
even GW Bush.
Most of them don't have the treasonous background Kerry has and a twenty
year anti-military congressional record! They can run on other assets.
Kerry can't!
jt
Plainly you don't care that if in this wild rush to accuse
Kerry of treason you smear and dishonour the entire military
establishment and it's processes. That's REAL fanaticism.
Still, none of the current administrations main players
(with the exception of Powell) have real military records,
so that makes perfect sense. What does Powell say about
Kerry's record BTW..??
BadPony
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 10:28:10 AM |
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"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:F-udnR-BMJGDlLfcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
John Tibbs wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qFiWc.31174$9Y6.16634@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Frankie Lee" <s9641351@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:cgc2ao$pgg$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as
credentials
or
qualifications.
Every Vet who has ever run for US Presidency uses his veteran's
credentials,
even GW Bush.
Most of them don't have the treasonous background Kerry has and a twenty
year anti-military congressional record! They can run on other assets.
Kerry can't!
jt
Plainly you don't care that if in this wild rush to accuse
Kerry of treason you smear and dishonour the entire military
establishment and it's processes.
You sir are a LIAR! The only thing it does is expose the rotten apples in
the bunch. Most vets would not testify against their brothers while they
were still in cages being tortured and come back and throw their medals away
then years later try and run for president as some sort of fucking hero.
That's REAL fanaticism.
Still, none of the current administrations main players
(with the exception of Powell) have real military records,
so that makes perfect sense. What does Powell say about
Kerry's record BTW..??
BadPony
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| User: "BadPony" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 10:25:30 AM |
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Scratch wrote:
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:F-udnR-BMJGDlLfcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
John Tibbs wrote:
"LawsonE" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qFiWc.31174$9Y6.16634@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"Frankie Lee" <s9641351@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
news:cgc2ao$pgg$1@mawar.singnet.com.sg...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G6idnZwmWPQm1rTcRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Attacking Kerry's military record will bring into question the
evidentiary trail and verification method for every medal awarded to
a US serviceman for the past 50 years.
Good luck with that.
Not every Veteran would run for US Presidency nor use that as
credentials
or
qualifications.
Every Vet who has ever run for US Presidency uses his veteran's
credentials,
even GW Bush.
Most of them don't have the treasonous background Kerry has and a twenty
year anti-military congressional record! They can run on other assets.
Kerry can't!
jt
Plainly you don't care that if in this wild rush to accuse
Kerry of treason you smear and dishonour the entire military
establishment and it's processes.
You sir are a LIAR! The only thing it does is expose the rotten apples in
the bunch. Most vets would not testify against their brothers while they
were still in cages being tortured and come back and throw their medals away
then years later try and run for president as some sort of fucking hero.
I don't think you have thought this through.
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
and the entire medal award process is being called into question,
not just for the Swiftboats, but by implication the ENTIRE US
military establishment. Don't you get that?
BadPony
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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23 Aug 2004 11:40:21 AM |
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"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mMydneP06unUk7fcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
Yep. Swiftboat vet Kerry is saying one thing, and over 250 Swiftboat vets
are saying something else.
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| User: "BadPony" |
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23 Aug 2004 03:16:56 PM |
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John Kerry, Horse's ***** wrote:
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mMydneP06unUk7fcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
Yep. Swiftboat vet Kerry is saying one thing, and over 250 Swiftboat vets
are saying something else.
That's because they're mad as hell that Kerry is running for President,
nothing more. If they were so against him, why didn't all of them come
out years ago en masse? Or do you think it's their last chance for some
free publicity and media attention?
BadPony
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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23 Aug 2004 03:30:32 PM |
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"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JJmdnYHE3c42z7fcRVn-gA@comcast.com...
John Kerry, Horse's ***** wrote:
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mMydneP06unUk7fcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
Yep. Swiftboat vet Kerry is saying one thing, and over 250 Swiftboat
vets
are saying something else.
That's because they're mad as hell that Kerry is running for President,
nothing more.
Why would they be mad at someone for running for President???
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23 Aug 2004 08:16:27 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:30:32 GMT, after shitting on the constitution
"John Kerry, Horse's *****" <#1Loser@JohnKerry.com> told SwiftLies
???
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??? Why would they be mad at someone for running for President???
???
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 23, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/3kt5v Silver Star incident: Langhofer, on other
boat, saw firing from both banks of a river.
** http://tinyurl.com/5bf5k Vets, others call for resignation of
prosecutor in SwiftLies ad
** http://tinyurl.com/63wmp Republican prosecutor Alfred French's lies
on affidavit about events he did not witness.
** http://tinyurl.com/65qsn Republican prosecuter's Anti-Kerry hearsay
is worthless.
August 22 or earlier:
** http://tinyurl.com/4e3y2 BusinessWeek: Flinging the Foul Mud of
Vietnam. John Kerry returned a hero. The smears his political enemies
are now flinging mark them -- not him -- as beneath contempt
** http://tinyurl.com/4yeu7 Kerry also picked up support from Wayne D.
Langhofer, who told The Washington Post he was manning a machine gun
in a boat behind Kerry's and saw firing from both banks of a river as
Kerry dived in to rescue Special Forces soldier James Rassmann, the
basis for Kerry's Bronze Star.
** http://tinyurl.com/6arcy Bush campaign admits "Cordier was a
supporter of the President during the 2000 election and served as a
member of the President's veterans' steering committee during this
election."
** http://tinyurl.com/44t3g Registered Republican SwillBoat Ad Shill
was not there.
** http://tinyurl.com/3rtwt SwillBoat prosecutors presents heresay as
if he was eyewitness.
** http://tinyurl.com/6ubnz SwillBoater claims he has no evidence
** http://tinyurl.com/639as SwiftLie vet working to help re-elect
incumbent president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
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*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 GOOGLE.COM Results 220 for "George W. Bush"
Merrie Spaeth Tex Lezar.
http://tinyurl.com/54lqw GOOGLE.COM Results 257 for "George W. Bush"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd GOOGLE.COM Results 613 for "George W. Bush"
"Bob Perry"".
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris
http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ai_news/11015.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=19991108&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=19991108&c=2&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=hfd83c00&fmt=tif&ref=results
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy GOOGLE.COM Results 5,100 for "Karl Rove"
"Swift Boat".
http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158396.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158370.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c GOOGLE.COM Results 814 for "Merrie Spaeth"
republican.
http://tinyurl.com/63zvu GOOGLE.COM Results 317 for "Merrie Spaeth"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/43fek GOOGLE.COM Results 10 for "Tex Lezar"
tobacco.
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://mediamatters.org/items/200406020006
http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq GOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
http://www.aei.org/about/contentID.20038142214500073/default.asp
http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn GOOGLE.COM Results 113 for "Harlan Crow"
Holdings.
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8 GOOGLE.COM Results 217 for "Harlan Crow"
swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=79&media_type=TEXT
http://tinyurl.com/6kaso GOOGLE.COM Results 1,630 for "Bob Perry"
swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd GOOGLE.COM Results 43 for "Stevens Reed
Curcio & Potholm" swift.
http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw http://srcpmedia.com/house.html
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://srcpmedia.com/senate.html
http://tinyurl.com/6xnut http://srcpmedia.com/work.html
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://www.phillips.com/eagle.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Richard%20Scaife
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/5/confessore-n.html
http://tinyurl.com/5szod http://www.americanreview.us/back32.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd GOOGLE.COM Results 146 for "Regnery
Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://mediamatters.org/items/200408120001
http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://www.salon.com/src/ads/house/gateway/tv_head_gateway.html?http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/08/06/mccain_on_swift_boat_veterans/index_np.html
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://www.fearofclowns.com/text/kerry_faked_first_purple_heart_debunked/
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm
http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
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Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
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"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
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Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
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Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
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Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
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http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
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| User: "Peter Pan" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
23 Aug 2004 04:57:56 PM |
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"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JJmdnYHE3c42z7fcRVn-gA@comcast.com...
John Kerry, Horse's ***** wrote:
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mMydneP06unUk7fcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
Yep. Swiftboat vet Kerry is saying one thing, and over 250 Swiftboat
vets
are saying something else.
That's because they're mad as hell that Kerry is running for President,
nothing more. If they were so against him, why didn't all of them come
out years ago en masse? Or do you think it's their last chance for some
free publicity and media attention?
BadPony
Maybe cuz he was safely ensconced in mass, and they didn't give a flying fig
what he did there? Heck, a lot of people think that mass, with ted kennedy,
gets what it deserves!
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| User: "John Kerry, Horses Ass" |
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23 Aug 2004 05:00:48 PM |
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"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2ov7j7Ffcbs7U1@uni-berlin.de...
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JJmdnYHE3c42z7fcRVn-gA@comcast.com...
John Kerry, Horse's ***** wrote:
"BadPony" <ebc1!@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mMydneP06unUk7fcRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
Look at what is happening. Swiftboat vets are arguing among themselves
Yep. Swiftboat vet Kerry is saying one thing, and over 250 Swiftboat
vets
are saying something else.
That's because they're mad as hell that Kerry is running for President,
nothing more. If they were so against him, why didn't all of them come
out years ago en masse? Or do you think it's their last chance for some
free publicity and media attention?
BadPony
Maybe cuz he was safely ensconced in mass, and they didn't give a flying
fig
what he did there? Heck, a lot of people think that mass, with ted
kennedy,
gets what it deserves!
BINGO, pp!
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: Swiftboat backfire |
24 Aug 2004 03:29:48 PM |
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I am against Kerry. He is a loose cannon in the sense he is as inconsistant
as any politician I've seen lately (30yrs). The possibility he will turn on
the USA the way he turned on his former comrades is the scariest part. The
man seems to have loyalty only to himself and no feel for his country. The
promises he makes are so general and vague as to not have any merit or
substance other than empty promises. He also is an elitest who is doing a
poor job of disguising it. He thinks he is better than others only because
he is he. I've encountered people like him all my life and there's not a
redeemable
feature in that character. You're welcome.
jt
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